Complaint Review: City of Montgomery AL Police Department - montgomery Alabama

The Montgomery Police Department has charged a police corporal with theft after a fellow officer observed him taking $20 in cash from the personal effects of a 2012 suicide victim whose property was being held by the department, according to a Police Department news release.

Stanley Wilson, 48, was charged with third-degree theft, a Class A misdemeanor, and taken to the Montgomery City Jail, the release states. Police Chief Kevin J. Murphy immediately initiated termination proceedings against the officer, who was placed on mandatory leave, according to police.

I also believe this is just the tip of it. I have info on Officer AJ West and 6 others that have stolen from the public and other things they should be arrested and suspended for. Even the mayor and town council are in on it.

• n April 2010, press reports indicated that Officer Phillip T. Moultrie was arrested on charged he had used his official car to pull over motorists before stealing from them. Officer Moultrie resigned from the department.^[2]

• In September 2010, press reports indicated Officer Kyle McKenzie resigned from the department after being arrested for recklessly driving his motorcycle. Office McKenzie was already under investigation for firing his weapon into the air outside an area bar two months before.^[3]

• In October 2010, press reports indicated two unnamed police officers stopped a young driver, apparently mistaking him for a criminal suspect. One officer apparently hit the man over then head with his pistol. The two then drove off without calling for medical help.^[4]

• In October 2010, press reports indicated that three unnamed city police officers broke into the home at 810 North Union Street rather than the home they were authorized to enter at 812 South Union Street.^[5]

• In November 2010, press reports indicated that an unnamed police officer was disciplined for locking his police dog in the back of his car when he went off duty. The dog died from the heat. As a matter of policy the department does not publicly disclose the names officers accused of misconduct or the nature of their internal discipline.^[6]

• In August 2012, the department announced that Officer Milton Strother had been arrested for stealing funds seized in a drug raid

The neighbors was screaming in the middle of the street but who files harassment charges the neighbors who are being disorderly conduct that is how backwards this town really is we was harassed buy these neighbors repeatedly & it seem to anger them for some reason when we defended our self.

We will be moving from phenix city because of how we was treated & harassed buy our neighbors screamed at and cussed at I was unfairly called "Mentally Retarded" insulted the neighbors saying we was "POOR" but who gets in trouble we do.

I/we will sue the city of phenix city & our neighbors for character assassination & my reputation being ruined not being able to have a job calling me "Mentally Retarded" & POOR is character assassination.

I have rights to rather they like it or not!.  The more they call me names just makes me a stronger person!.

The reason why bad businesses get away with their abuse and consumer rights.  Just like how team rebuttal said my neighbors had the right to scream at us in the middle of the street but did they get in trouble for disturbing the peace disorderly conduct no!.

That is because the shameful police would not help us in stopping the harassment from our neighbors I read a lot of bad things on the internet that Phenix City is still "CORRUPT" my neighbors did not get held accountable for anything instead the whole blame got put on us!.

They are also trying to take my "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" away.  I don't think its right how i am being treated just because we defended our self they was all in screwing us over & they used our neighbors to get us in trouble.

What is with all the double standard crap in phenix city them telling us we can't do this or that while our neighbors are free to roam around causing "Injustices" to other people & doing what they please not caring who they hurt!.

On 4/17, RICK36 wrote, "I know White and we exchanged information . I know who he is and what he does and we do think alike on this issue but thats about it... Coast and the other guy Robert from Irvine could be one in the same too. Their posts and opinions are almost identical"

"could be one in the same too"

That appears to be another admission that RICK36 and white5150 are one in the same.

You claim not to be white5150 even though you wrote, "do think alike on this issue" but you claim that Robert and I are the same person based on the fact that we have similar opinions on this issue. That is a double standard. My claim on 4/14 that you and white5150 are the same person was based on my perception and then verified on 4/15. You have chosen to evade that proven fact. A guilty person always evades the facts.

"I do think Robert and Coast are the same person... they have the nerve to accuse me of posting  under as many as 3 different names"

That is not true. I never claimed that you were using three different names. I accused you of using two different names. Two and three are not the same number.

Robert and I are not the same person.

We signed a contract to rent from him yet his B**** of a wife thought she was in control we signed a contract to rent from him his wife had nothing to say in it yet we was forced out he wanted to steal our $4,000 deposit money then make us move out.

I made a complaint & it seems that his stupid wife had to speak for him i'm tired of being betrayed & deceived I will never trust any landlords again!.

Actually the people I work with have seen the same things I have . We discuss it amongst ourselves at meetings and share information. The big insurance company as you say has bigger fish to fry and its none of their concern.

I have registered domains but I dont have a website up yet. I have a business website and im trying to get that server to host it.

By the way you still havent addressed  my question that You and Coast are the same person or part of team rebuttal. You have completely ignored it . I would like an answer please. 

Yes Rick36 you are exactly like everyone else who can't admit they were wrong.  Again you are very predictable.  You go off on side subjects, when those don't pan out, you say to "focus on the original issue".  Well that is done and you then you refuse to even acknowledge it..instead focusing on the side issues..and the wheels on the bus go around and around.

The rest of your post is not worthy of a response.
- Of course in your opinion it isn't as you have no response to give that would contradict the points made.  At least we now why you won't go public, and why we will never see this web site you supposedly got the domain names for.  Because I am sure people in your industry will be a lot harder on you actually requiring you to prove your claims of corruption than some anonymous Internet posts do.  After all the last thing a large corporate insurance company is going to want is someone posting false claims or bringing unwanted publicity and possibly opening them up to issues.

Now, the odds are still that you will come back, probably come up with some "personal" attack or misdirection.  Perhaps even touching the actual issue to make it sound like you have some proof.  But in the end it is going to be just a lot more hot air and misdirection.

So it's been fun but unless you have something new..such as actual proof or your web site good luck in your endeavors.

I don't care who you work for. You may not be on This sites payroll but you sure act like you are. 

You asked what tdk and i do. We work for a large insurance organization that is  based in Chicago. I wont mention the company by name but they now own what used to be the Sears tower.

We are insurance brokers and we enroll employees and companies in their insurance and benefits like medical , dental retirement and such. There are alot of us nationwide and we have a large network of benefit  specialists that travel all over. So that is why I was leaving Baptist medical at 1am. 

The rest of your post is not worthy of a response. 

Of course you agree with your "buddies"....So let's go over your comments in no particular order.

Lets just post our information for people who care and want to be informed. Lets not be baited and debated by team rebuttal.
- This is EXACTLY why you have not gone public, and sorry an anonymous posting on a few public web sites and Facebook is NOT public.  You can not handle 2 people asking very legitimate questions, showing inconsistencies in your claims.  It was proven that you are in fact posting as at least 2 people.  If you want to say that you are not "tdk55"..okay since there is really only circumstantial items showing that, I would be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. 

But then if that is the case, you destroy yourself on the other aspect of some of your claims.  The comment that you are talking to all of these "random" people.  So far we have 2 people who are no where near "random" people.

I am tired if debating the issue with idiots on Ripoff Report Payroll. I will say what I want to say and completely ignore those idiots or in this case one idiot.
- And there we have it.  The "I can't defend my position" comment.  I actually think this is a first.  I have been accused of working for probably no less than a couple dozen companies.  I think this is the first I have ever been accused of working for this site.  So sorry to burst your bubble, but I am no more involved in this site other than being a regular user. 

Now lets get back to what started this, Police corruption and Montgomery Alabama!
- Okay...the ONLY two comments about Montgomery is the ticket YOU got by not dimming your headlights, and "tdk55" getting a ticket where their headlight was burnt out.  Now, neither of those laws are made up.  But in both cases the only complaint is that YOU and "tdk55" didn't think you should have gotten them.   So sorry that is NOT corruption that is just someone who is throwing a tantrum because they got a ticket.    Oh and let us not forget that your Facebook page that is supposed to show all of this corruption, had 3 Posts from other people and NONE of them dealing with specific incidences.

One other question..I am really curious as to what profession has you and "tdk55" working in the same company.  Yet you are helping hospitals with "benefits" until 1AM in the morning and you both travel the lower 48. 

In phenix city they make sure to get the victim ruined.  The police abuse their power we did not get any type of justice what so ever because of the crooked corrupt judge who allowed our neighbors to laugh at us allowed them to walk in & out of the court room because the police thought I was going to "HARM" or attack them.

Our neighbors was the ones who attacked us verbally! now they think they can harass who ever they please because the judge didn't have enough guts to do the right thing & make them be held accountable for their actions!.  Some how our neighbors thought they was "ABOVE THE LAW" thinking they can harass & bully us then lie about us to their friends & family & get them in on it!. 

I do think Robert and Coast are the same person. This site uses several posters under different names to post rebuttals.
There is no telling how many other aliases they use.  Then they have the nerve to accuse me of posting  under as many as 3 different names . Robert and Coast have not proven anything other than what is their opinion. 

I am tired if debating the issue with idiots on Ripoff Report Payroll. I will say what I want to say and completely ignore those idiots or in this case one idiot. I encourage other posters to not get into a pissing match with team rebuttal either.

Lets just post our information for people who care and want to be informed. Lets not be baited and debated by team rebuttal.

Now lets get back to what started this, Police corruption and Montgomery Alabama!

I think team rebuttal maybe 1 person all together under several different fake names.

"I must defend myself here. Robert and Coast seem to think I am another poster Rick36."

That is a false allegation unless you are able to post a quote of when I claimed that you are someone else.

"I can also guarantee you that Rick and White 5150 are not the same same person."

On 4/14, RICK36 challenged me to prove that he and white5150 are the same person. I provided that absolute proof on 4/15. That case is closed.

"You try and debunk everything any other poster says"

That is another false allegation because I have not responded to the over 26000 posts on this site.

I must defend myself here. Robert and Coast seem to think I am another poster Rick36. I guarantee you I am not. However I do know Rick. We work for the same company and travel the lower 48 but mostly the south and southeast. I was raised in Roland OK  and Rick is from Fort Smith AR just over the river.

I posted about Roland because it is common knowledge for people who live in this area. Rick knows this too. It was me who suggested he put it on FB Copblock page. I dont have a facebook account anymore.

I can also guarantee you that Rick and White 5150 are not the same same person. They were introduced by a third party and it turns out that they have a mutual acquaintance from Prattville AL that also know a few things about the Montgomery and surrounding area.

Your accusations of alter ego as  you put it are false. The same could be said for You and Coast  because all your posts have the same overall tone and attitude. You try and debunk everything any other poster says and both seem to always take opposing side of an argument.

I did not mention my headlight incident because that wasnt my point at the time. I was asking specific questions and expecting answers. The headlilght thing was irrelevant to that post.

If you are on facebook then you know you can email Rick36 on his copblock page since we are not allowed to leave email on this site. Thats why its there.

I don't see the cops giving tickets to people who have covers over their car tags you can't hardley see their tag number & they are breaking the law with having their tag covered up so when they harass other drivers they are unable to get their tag number.

Why bother getting the bad drivers tag number the cops don't do anything to the bad road rage drivers who cut you off pass on double yellow lines.  run red lights do all kinds of unlawful things here in phenix city and columbus ga.

Since many Americans are beginning to realize that the majority of our system in America is corrupt, and an organized crime syndicate is ultimately in control, it makes sense that most Police Departments around the USA would also have corrupt individuals working there, right?

Don't forget to 'Google' this- WHO OWNS THE FED BANK, WHO CONTROLS WHO VIDEO, and watch it on the web for important information about the organized crime syndicate, also known as the "hub".

Then 'Google' this- EX-SALT LAKE MAYOR ROCKY ANDERSON FORMER DEMOCRACY NOW, and watch that video on the web also. Here is a quote from the video-

Quote: "We launched the Justice Party because the entire system is so corrupt. It's so diseased." - Rocky Anderson

I let you go long enough..figure I would just let you post and continue to back yourself into a corner for a few days.

First off it is interesting how you talk about lies and corruption, but you have no problem lying to try to improve your position.  We have the confirmed deceiption with you posting as white5150, and now there is plenty of proof to show you are posting as "tdk55 - roland".  (The roland is actually a very important part).

The post a few days ago wasn't the first posting by "tdk55 - roland".  The first post was back in December.  In that post they specifically complained about being stopped for a headlight being out.   In the latest post(s), they talk about 2 things.  Being stopped for going 66 in a 65 and a dirty license plate in 2010 and 2011 respectively.   Yet not one mention of this headlight being out after that initial post.  Wouldn't a person who has had these run-in's with the police want to remind us of that initial incident you mentioned?  The obvious explanation is that rick36 "forgot" that he wrote as tdk55 and didn't bring it up.

But that is NOT all we have.  If you go to this person's facebook page they mentioned.  Other than first noticing there are very few posts..no where near 50..I think I actually counted 3 from other people and nothing about anyones personal experience.  But what there was a post by the Page Administrator "Arkansas Cop Block" on December 28th.  That talks about the corruption on Roland OK.  Umm....Interesting.

Then of course..tdk55 goes off on the typical "redirection" that people do when they have no case.  They go off and try to compare their situation with extreme hypothetical situations that don't have anything to do with them.  Without rehashing item for item the answers of what is and what isn't corrupition, I will just say that I basically agree with coast.  But I will focus on and reiterate a few key items.

If a town has a policy of enforcing unknown or non existent laws or stretching the true meaning of a statute in order to raise revenue is that corruption ?
- If a law is "non-existent", as in made up.  Then of course it is corruption, and you should be screaming that from the top of the highest mountain.  BUT...every single ticket will have the Vehicle Code section you violated.    So if that code doesn't exist you have the "smoking gun" so to speak and any local media organization would jump on the chance to expose it.  Yet...nothing you have written says the code doesn't exist, just that you think it shouldn't apply to you.  As for the "unknown"..sorry by law YOU as a licensed driver is supposed to be aware of ALL of the laws, and ignorance is no excuse.

Is pulling motorists over without probable cause then planting marijuana or drug paraphenalia on them just to get a bust and the fines , property confiscation and revenue that goes with it.
- Of course it is, but again this is NOT your situation.  You do hear the extremely rare case of this happening(so sorry you aren't going to get me to say it NEVER happened), but when it does happen the cop(s) involved end up in prison. 

Guess what...Cops are humans and NOT perfect.  Not at any time did I state that they are.  BUT again let's focus on YOUR issues.  In all of your cases no one planted drugs in your car.  No one write you up for a "non-existent" law.  No, the ONLY issue is that you got ticketed for a violation, that you think you should have just been given a warning for.   This is NOT corruption.

So I will reiterate what I stated before.  If you don't like the laws..then get them changed.  If you have enough people that think there should be no tickets for "failure to dim", or that if you are only going 1MPH over the speed limit you shouldn't get a ticket then it should be easy to talk to your representatives have have the laws changed.

Everything I posted is going on here in Roland. Speed traps, collusion, making up statutes that don't exist, targeting certain groups of people etc. The mayor,chief of police, prosecutor and municipal judge are all related. They have sons and grandsons on the police force. They are in collusion with the town of Moffett and this has been proven fact. It has been investigated and published in the Times Record in Fort Smith.

Its also happening in the towns of Muldrow, Poteau and Sallisaw OK. The towns are run by crooked politicians and are cash strapped.They are digging up decades old statutes and trying to enforce them by changing their actual meaning and intent. The only decent ones ive found are a few county sheriffs. I find they are far less corrupt than the local police. I guess its because they are elected and have some accountability which we dont have with the police.

On hwy 64 on a 6 mile stretch thru Roland to Ft Smith the speed limit changes 4 times. Ive seen Roland and Moffett cops pull over people on the bridge going to fort smith clogging up traffic both directions then giving tickets for impeding the flow of traffic to those that stop for a traffic jam they started. Now tell me if that isnt corruption then I dont know what is.

Cops are now writing tickets for the most obscure things that they would have overlooked even 20 yrs ago.
my dirty license plate is a classic example. Ive never seen or talked to anyone thats had a ticket for something like that. That is just as stupid a violation as Rick36 failure to dim. It just doesnt fit the meaning of the statute but was enforced in a way solely to raise revenue. THAT IS CORRUPTION!

"So what would it take for you to think there is corruption?"

It would require a scenario that meets the definition described in my previous post.

"I was doing 65."  You already told us you were clocked at 66 MPH.

"Is a speed trap setup solely to raise revenue corruption?"

In my opinion, yes. It should be in the interest of public safety.

"Are speed and  red light cameras for the purpose of raising revenue corruption?"

In my opinion, yes. They should be in the interest of public safety.

"If a town has a policy of enforcing unknown or non existent laws or stretching the true meaning of a statute in order to raise revenue is that corruption ?"

Enforcing an unknown law is not corruption because ignorance of the law is not an acceptable excuse. Your question about enforcing a non-existent law is an oxymoron and therefore cannot be answered. Stretching the truth in order to raise revenue is corruption.

"If the money raised from tickets fines and court costs goes into the pockets of the police and judges when by law it is not supposed to. . is that corruption?"

Yes.

"If there is collusion between the city, the police, and court system to get as many CITIZENS into the system as possible in order to raise revenue and buildup a slush fund they use for activities that the people would not support. Is that corruption?"

Collusion to raise funds involving the police and the judicial system would be corruption. If the town council or other elected municipal leaders were aware that the funds were obtained through corruption, then utilizing those funds for any purpose would also be corrupt.

"Is pulling motorists over without probable cause then planting marijuana or drug paraphenalia on them just to get a bust and the fines , property confiscation and revenue that goes with it. Is that corruption to you?"

Yes.

"Is a speed trap that preys on the poor, the elderly and single moms that are strugglling to pay their bills corrupt?"

That would be considered corrupt if it is the intention of law enforcement to target citizens of a specific demographic. I'm not aware of what procedure the police would use to determine if the driver of a vehicle is a single mom. It is not corrupt if the poor, elderly or single moms were not targeted but still earned the traffic citation.

"These people are being targeted and are paying outrageous fines for minor violations and being stopped on made up probable cause"

If you are prepared to prove the allegation that citizens that meet a specific demographic are being targeted, I expect you could easily get the attention of a large audience.

"Is that corruption when it takes money from people that cant afford the fine and takes food off the table for their kids? Or impedes their abiility to work because their car has been towed?"

No and no.

"All because the imperial almighty government wants their money for illiciit purposes."

If that were a proven allegation, then yes it would be corruption.

I never claimed that there is no corruption in our justice system. The hypothetical scenarios that you posted contain examples of corruption, but those examples have no relation to yours or RICK36/white5150's claims of being victims of corruption.

First off Coast seems to think that I masquerade as another poster on this site as an alter ego. I believe  he is either delusional or needs to step away from the crack pipe and go to rehab.

I am not White 5150 and I don't know why he thinks I am. I know White and we exchanged information . I know who he is and what he does and we do think alike on this issue but thats about it. If Coast wants to know what I do then he should just ask and not make false accusations.

Coast and the other guy Robert from Irvine could be one in the same too. Their posts and opinions are almost identical and both believe that law enforcement is some philanthropic angelic organization that is here to help us and can do no wrong. Therefore no corruption. these guys are either naive, not too bright or for some reason worship authoritarian figures and don't think they could ever harm us in any way.

I have no idea which ones they are  but that kind of thinking is narrow minded and dangerous.

TDK55 I hope Coast answers your questions. I too would like to know just what they would call the things you list if its not corruption. Should I call it Crookedness? I like your wording of unethical but that doesn't go far enough in this case.

If you were charged with driving over 66 MPH, that would have been corruption? I was doing 65. WHY stop me for 66 when he could just as easily said I was doing 70. I think he was just being a jerk with the 66mph and showing his authority. ther is no evidence I was exceeding the speed limit. he would not show me the radar gun reading and I asked politely. He was threatening me with harrassment for asking. 

After browsing the replies in this thread it appears to me that Coast and Robert have a very narrow definition of corruption.  I would like a specific answer to these questions.

Is a speed trap setup solely to raise revenue corruption? If not is it ethical or moral? Are speed and  red light cameras for the purpose of raising revenue corruption?

If a town has a policy of enforcing unknown or non existent laws or stretching the true meaning of a statute in order to raise revenue is that corruption ? If not what is it?

If the money raised from tickets fines and court costs goes into the pockets of the police and judges when by law it is not supposed to. . is that corruption?

If there is collusion between the city, the police, and court system to get as many CITIZENS into the system as possible in order to raise revenue and buildup a slush fund they use for activities that the people would not support. Is that corruption? if not what is it?

Is pulling motorists over without probable cause then planting marijuana or drug paraphenalia on them just to get a bust and the fines , property confiscation and revenue that goes with it. Is that corruption to you? If not what is it?

Is a speed trap that preys on the poor, the elderly and single moms that are strugglling to pay their bills corrupt? These people are being targeted and are paying outrageous fines for minor violations and being stopped on made up probable cause . Is that corruption when it takes money from people that cant afford the fine and takes food off the table for their kids? Or impedes their abiility to work because their car has been towed? All because the imperial almighty government wants their money for illiciit purposes. Is this corruption ? if not Then what is it?

I could go on and on. But I'll stop here and await your answers.

is available at this website. Just stay at this site and type in- ERUPTION ALERT, and click on Ripoff Report #648567 and scroll down to Consumer Comment #3 in order to read it.

Corruption is an impairment of integrity or unlawful inducement.

The officers that cited you did nothing unlawful or display questionable integrity. It is your opinion that they should not have cited you but you admit guilt to the offenses. I agree that you should not have been cited for driving one MPH over the speed limit but the officer did not behave in an unlawful manner.

If you were charged with driving over 66 MPH, that would have been corruption. If the other officer added mud to your tag, that would have been corruption. If they implied that a bribe would be accepted, that would have been corruption.

Your claim is unjustified because the police officers that cited you displayed minimal tolerance but are not guilty of corruption.

If this is an example of the complaints received in the non-random interviews conducted by RICK36/white5150 then we can expect RICK36/white5150's elaborate plan to expose nationwide corruption to fail.

Thats what he said I was doing 66 in a 65.THe cruise Was set at 65.  I never said his being black had anything to do with it. I think he would have done the same if he was white. Apparently they had a trap going where one cop was clocking with radar and radio to another a mile ahead and stopping them.They must have raked in thousands that day.  That my friend is pure old fashioned corruption. The cop was a piece of work. Big fat donut swallowing gut hanging over is belt. Waddling around and then saying Im harrassing him by asking a question.I was polite and didnt exhibit any signs of contempt for him even though I thoght he was an idiot.

I dont agree about the license plate either. Thats another one of those areas where the cop could have just told me it was mud covered as a courtesy .I would have cleaned it and gone on my way. But he wanted the revenue or his quota for the day.   Just like the bright lights ticket of the OP it could have been a warning or just a reminder to dim or Ill ticket you next time. The offense doesnt justify the fine.

We are paying these people to serve and protect instead they are sitting on their fat butts and holding a radar gun that we paid for. God forbid an actual crime had occurred when this Jasper clown was busy with a desperate out law like me with my muddy tags. Someone cold have been raped or killed and this Jackass is worried about dirty tags. Thats both corruption and blatant stupidity to boot!

I believe a small percentage of law enforcement officials are corrupt. Nothing in your mentioned experiences implies that most law enforcement is corrupt.

What was your actual speed when you were cited for speeding in Birmingham? Were you really driving at a rate of one MPH over the limit or did he lower it to one MPH over the limit? Please be honest in your response. If you were actually driving at a rate of one MPH over the limit then I would consider it silly that you were citied. I doubt the officer spoke to you [unprovoked] the way you claim he did. I feel that way because you were quick to mention his race, which implies you demonstrated an attitude problem.

If your tag was not readable then the officer is justified in citing you for that violation, whether or not you were aware the tag was unreadable.

No, I do not and have never worked for or with any law enforcement agency.

Ive been stopped in Birmingham for ridiculous things too. i got a ticket in 2010 for doing 66 in a 65 mph zone. The cop was black and a real smart a**. Acted like he was above the law and had real attitude about him. One mile over the speed limit. How hard is that to gauge? My speedometer looke like 65 to me and the cruise on. The ticket was $175.00. when I questioned the cop about one mile over I asked him how I could possibly know as speedometers vary a little. He told me to shut up and quit harrassing him or he would arrest me . 

Harrassing? Asking a cop a question is harrassing? What are we paying them for if they threaten to arrest us when we ask a simple question.

I also got a ticket in Jasper AL in 2011 for having a dirty License plate. Yes a dirty license plate. Apparently a truck had splashed mud all over my bumper and rear plate. A local cop stopped me and said it was illegal to have a plate that could not be read. I didnt even know it had mud on it. Most ridiculous ticket ive ever gotten. $125.00 for mud on my license plate!

Do I believe that most law enforcement is corrupt? You bet I do!

These lying neighbors got pissed off when I didn't let them push me around.  I never seen such crazy demented neighbors in my life who just had to have their way for just about everything including destroying my property & having their friends park in front of our house.

Its consider "RUDE" but we didn't let them push us around & we will continue not to let these neighbors push us around they can accuse us of everything in the book!.

I dont believe it is illegal to drive with brights on  if there is no one else coming. I read the Alabama statute and it indicates that it is not illegal in this case. That is why Im so mad.

A ticket should never have been given and the only reason it was is because of the corruption in the department . They just wanted the revenue. That  is all. Unfortunately when you are dealing with crooks and liars of this magnitude there is no justice and they dont care care what is legal or not.

I think the officer saw my out of state plates and then saw dollar signs. Being from out of town there is less chance that I would show up and try to fight the ticket. So to people like Robert and Coast if that isnt corruption I would like to know what is?  Just what wold they have to do to you before you admit they doing illegal unethical and corrupt actions?

I believe that cop is dirty. Probably has a very low IQ and a Napoleon complex. Why else would he choose to serve the devil. People that stupid are easily manipulated.

This is my side of the story our neighbors started the altercation in the middle of the street screaming & cussing at us then they have the nerve to claim they are the victim of us.  The main problem was we wouldn't allow them to park in front of our house or on our property they didn't bug any other neighbors but us.

Then team rebuttal says they had every right to do that because of their First Amendment Right well why was our First Amendment Right violated they accused us of threatening them & saying mean things about their kid when the truth was.  Another thing other people have reported neighbor problems on rip-off report why is it so wrong for me to do it!.

If anyone is thinking about moving to phenix city please reconsider they hate women like single parents the local businesses & the phenix city police officers.

The people in the Phenix City Municipal Court Police Department & City Managers office can kiss my A** you can't take my "FREEDOM" OF SPEECH AWAY!".  We are not being forced out of our home & these neighbors can slander us to who ever they please.

Bon Jovi this is my life!.

Since when has it been illeagl to have high beams on when there are no other moving (In Operation with head lights on) vehicals in sight?

If it is I will have to be extra carefull in Alabama, the law is retarded.

Robert or Coast still haven't answered my questions

AUTHOR: white5150

- Hey white..guess what YOU never asked what our agenda was the ONLY one who asked was RICK36.  So as suspected white5150 = rick36...Nice try though.

BTW If you actually read my last post I did say that if I had an agenda what it would be, unfortunately I would have to correct my last part of that statement since with your now proven multiple aliases that is NOT your agenda.  But if our purpose was to drive UP hit counts..isn't that what you would want?  Just sayin...

On 4/14 I wrote, "white5150, You don't exist. You are RICK36's alter ego.

"On 4/14, RICK36 wrote, "Your allegations that White5150 is my alter ego is about the stupidest thing Ive heard since the last Obama speech.I can assure you that you are incorrect. What proof do you have of this?"

OK, RICK36, Here is the proof:

On 4/15, white5150 wrote, "Robert or Coast still haven't answered my questions... What is your agenda? Are you part of a rebuttal team acting as shills to drive up post count and hits?"

The proof is... white5150 NEVER asked those questions. The accusations that we had an agenda and that we are shills were written by RICK36 on 4/14. None of the previous comments written by white5150 contain the words agenda or shill. You admit they are your questions so clearly white5150 and RICK36 are the same person.

OK, RICK36/white5150, I am not a shill and I do not have an agenda. I got involved in this thread because I saw what appeared to be false allegations against a police officer. I proved you were not pulled over due to skin color or because you were from out of town because there was no way the police officer could see your skin color or your tag at night from across the street. You claimed the police officer was racist but then denied that you wrote that. On 1/8, I proved you did make that claim more than once. On 4/14, you wrote that you had interviewed 50-people at random. You continue to claim they were random interviews even after Robert correctly explained why those were not random interviews. That may not be a lie on your part. You simply don't understand the proper definition of random. When someone responds to something of a specific subject matter, their response is not random.

You are the one with an agenda. You are attempting to discredit and tarnish a police officer that cited you for a traffic violation. You are a boy wearing man's shoes.

What is your agenda? Are you part of a rebuttal team acting as shills to drive up post count and hits?

I would like the truth from you and Coast as well. But I am not getting it.

Well its mainly the police officer fault for not doing anything to my neighbors who disturbed the peace calling me mentally retarded & the judge for not holding them accountable instead they blamed us!.  I feel insulted betrayed & I was denied justice!.

Our rights was raped big time the crooks are in the municipal court for allowing the people who harassed us to file false harassment charges because they was in on screwing us over to!.  Well we fought back & won at the in!.

What you are doing is detrimental to my cause and is not why I joined this site.
- Boo h*o..where is the violin.   You have people who (gasp) may disagree with you and you haven't the faintest idea of how to handle it.  So what do you do..you just say you are going to stop posting because we are "annoying".  I won't speak for anyone else, but if I was to have an agenda I think your agenda would pretty much match mine..truth. 

I will give you credit for one thing..at least you are being honest that you can't handle this very..very..very..very..very.. minor criticism and questioning.  But if you think these questions were tough, just wait until you really "go public" with what ever evidence you have.  Because, and this may be a shock for you, not everyone is going to just take what you say as truth..without PROOF.

So I guess this means that you won't be posting the name of your site(s) where you are going to post all of this evidence?

I get harassed buy everybody like my neighbors who got mad when I stood up to them & they filed false charges of harassment on us.  It has been a nightmare what we have been put threw & because we wouldn'ry let them park on our property when they would have parties!.

I think I will report these neighbors to the department of human resources for putting their kids in danger while we was backing down our drive way to get us in trouble even more.  They was trying to set us up buy putting their kids in harm buy letting them run out of the home while we was backing down our drive way to falsely accuse us of something yet again!.

This really gets me up set them trying to set us up with having their kids nuy having them run out in the street just as soon as we started backing down.  How would they know we was backing down unless they was watching or had cameras pointed to our property to watch our every move!.

I haven't reported them yet to DHR but i'm thinking about it for them doing such a thing putting their kids in harm just to get us in trouble!.

ANY PARENT WHO WOULD USE THEIR KIDS TO GET SOMEBODY IN TROUBLE NEEDS IS PROVEN TO BE A UN FIT PARENT & DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE A PARENT TO PUT THEIR KIDS IN HARMS WAY IN TRAFFIC!.

I don't know who you are or what your real agenda is but you seem to be skeptical of everything. I can't tell if you are a real person or part of team rebuttal what ever that is. It appears to me that you and Robert have the same agenda. Either you are both shills posting on this site to increase the amount of hits you get or you just enjoy playing the role opposite whatever is posted.

Whatever you real agenda is It is annoying and I will not continue to post my comments to your rebuttals if you are going to be skeptical of everything I say. Why would you do that? If you are not a cop or part of the problem  then why clog up this site with your ridiculous posts that do not add anything to the issue at hand. 

I posted this info in hopes of  hearing from like minded people that had been scammed by Montgomery and other corrupt entities. What you are doing is detrimental to my cause and is not why I joined this site.

Your allegations that White5150 is my alter ego is about the stupidest thing Ive heard since the last Obama speech.I can assure you that you are incorrect. What proof do you have of this? If you work for Ripoff report then you should be able to trace the IP and mac address of my posts and White5150.
I would sure like to see those results. Feel free to email them to me. The folks I talked were random. They were people that were referred to me and also contacted me on Craigslist and some message boards. 

Again if you do not have anything positive to add or if you don't have actual info on Montgomery AL
corruption then I do not care to respond. 

I dont know what Charles is talking about either. I have reached out to him asking that he tell me his story. I posted my facebook contact info. I have yet to hear from him.

I did tell the version of what happen,   team rebuttal has crap for brains if they can't understand what happen to me.  I'm not going to tell it several times In a row.  I told how I was harassed & we was denied the right to file a complaint.

It is real frustrated to explain something to ignorant people like team rebuttal who refuses to listen to what you explain,  but that is their point to make things as hard as they possible can for you!.

It gets pretty annoying telling them everything over & over!.  I'm fed up with it & i'm going to let them tell me what to do!.  You got that team rebuttal!.

Its no longer "liberty & Justice for All" the criminals enjoy all the freedoms & causing others injustices.  My life isn't ruined but I will "DEFEND" my self when somebody tries to harass me, but I have found out that my rights don't matter here in phenix city.  The police have trampled on my rights the judge has.

I hate judges more then ever after how he let the guy walk the one who we put a harassment charge on.  The police put him for being "Disorderly Conduct" & "Disturbing the Peace" but the judge turned it around & blamed us & let him walk!.  

Team rebuttal like coast & robert will never understand anything to them you're just filing a false complaint.

RICK36,

We now know that none of the people you interviewed were selected randomly. It's highly likely that many of them have invalid complaints similar to your invalid complaints that inspired this thread.

You continue to behave like a juvenile instead of accepting the judicial punishment that you deserve. I suspect that you have fabricated most of your 'interviews' and will continue to do so.


white5150,

You don't exist. You are RICK36's alter ego.


Robert,

Here's an addition to the 'excuse' list, "My attorney has directed me to withhold further comment." Then we never see another comment from them.


Charles,

If your life has been ruined it's due to your own actions. Maybe you should consider getting a job and quit crying about the neighbors that called you mean names three years ago.

so now you are saying that "team rebuttal" put your neighbors filing charges against you?

charles when will you tell the truth about what happened that night, not your version of what happened

Team rebuttal didn't get their way about having my life ruined.  They want nothing but bad things to happen to me.  Everybody in this country deserve a fair chance but team rebuttal don't seem to think so!.

I don't know what your role is here on this site. You are either a shill placed here to play devils advocate and  keep the debate going or you are one of the accused or in the same group.Either way I do not care unless you want to add something of substance to the debate or provide tangible proof that what I am reporting is not true.

In defense of White5150 , he was referred to me by someone on a local copblock division on Facebook.

He sent me some information that I verified then we communicated by email a few times. I believe his position of employment while not actually a cop himself but in a position to work with them everyday puts him in the category of first hand knowledge. In our conversations alot of information was disclosed and I was given some names of others to contact who could verify what I was being told.

I would be stupid to lay all my cards on the table. Information like this is best distributed in bits and pieces to see how the accused react. Then when the time is right or everything hits the fan then the entire story will be  released. I do not want to put my life or anyone else in danger. Once I started pursuing this I was shocked at what I found and frankly a little scared at what might happen.

These are not rational people we are dealing with. You might say say they are more like the mafia but disguised as law enforcement. When names are dropped those that are accused will be out for blood so I must proceed with caution. 

I am not the only one with this information.Several people have this info on Flash drive and know what to do with it should circumstances warrant. 

You mentioned the web domains i have registered. I will point you to a few sites when they are up and running.On will be a message board format that one can register on post on. Until then you'll just have to hide and watch.

white5160 must be one of these "Random" people you talked to.  After all they couldn't have found you through this site because they stated they e-mailed you, and it is the policy of this site to not disclose any personal or contact information.  As for white5160 if that is the best you got...you have some serious credibility issues.

"I live in Montgomery and i've seen it firsthand."
- Notice the word that is underlined..now let's take a look at the rest of his statements

"I know a retired cop that has told me things."
- NOT Firsthand..

"I also know some folks in Phenix city and although I do not specifically endorse Alabama Citizens opinion, I do believe he is telling the truth"
- Not Firsthand..in fact not any hands.

"I know several of the officers through civic groups that I am involved in."
- So again this person is not a cop but he KNOWS many.  That is NOT first hand...Do you notice a trend?

"They are told that their retirement and pensions rely on the revenue from the tickets they write and they have specific orders to write as many and raise as much as possible whether legal or not."
- Again NOT Firsthand.

"The cops will lie"
- Oh so the same people that they know who are "honest" enough to say how corrupt the system is are also so willing to lie in court.  Or does white5160 just happen to talk and know to the only 1 or 2 honest cops in the entire department?

Also, you posted pretty much exactly what was expected..yes even down to the domains you had purchased.  You don't even realize how predictable you are.

So let's try this.  How about posting about when we should expect to see all of this information posted?  If you have trouble coming up with an answer here are some options you can choose from.

a)Sorry but I won't be posting any information on this site, not even the link to the site I am creating because I really don't have site. 

b)Sorry but I won't be posting any information on this site, not even the link.  Because the truth is I don't want to have as much exposure as possible and only want a select group to be able to find my site.

c)Yes, I will post it in about (enter time here), but in reality when that time comes I will not actually post it.  When people inquire why I will just ignore their posts or come up with some reason why I can't.

d) Sorry but I can't give any information about my other site not even when I will post it, because it would "corrupt" my "investigation" and network of "informants" I have acquired.

e) I will post it as soon as Montgomery replies to my questions.  Even though I have already made up my mind that they are lying and just delaying to be able to come up with a "cover story".   But this still gives me an "out" because if they never respond or even if they did..there is no way for anyone to prove it so I can just keep saying I am waiting for a response.

Of course if you can come up with an original response..that would be a first.

I can backup what Rick36 is saying. I live in Montgomery and i've seen it firsthand. I know a retired cop
that has told me things. I look forward to his report. I also know some folks in Phenix city and although I do not specifically endorse Alabama Citizens opinion, I do believe he is telling the truth . That is a good old boy redneck close knit bunch over there and they are as corrupt as a big city Chicago or Dallas.

As for Montgomery, I know several of the officers through civic groups that I am involved in. Some of them are really nice guys and don't like what they are forced to do. But the City bosses and PD Higher
ups use tactics to get them to engage in corrupt ,Illegal and indecent behaviour.They must do this to keep their jobs.

They are told that their retirement and pensions rely on the revenue from the tickets they write and they have specific orders to write as many and raise as much as possible whether legal or not. Their judicial system is also corrupt and perpetuates this scam. Its almost impossible to find a judge that is not on the take or part of the network. Thus winning in court is nearly impossible. The cops will lie, the judge will lie, the prosecutor will lie and even the public defender will lie to keep his job.

 I spoke to Rick after all this broke via email and we exchanged information. I applaud him for going after these b**tards. I just hope he doesn't wind up in a roadside ditch.

No these are not conspiracy sites. But if they were those sites could provide valuable information. If It is true then it is not a conspiracy. I have used facebook, craigslist, copblock, AOL, Blogs and I have talked to folks that I work with that travel as much as I do and have been to these cities and  the 48 states. I have other means of investigation that I won't disclose obviously. I have a large  network of travelers that meet and share things.

And yes, the info will be posted. Maybe not on this site but on the appropriate venues and blogs. I have registered several domains and will be starting a website  to gather information and report on these things. The results of my investigation will be posted there too.

I have contacted Montgomery by email 3 tiimes and asked them to respond and they have not. They're probably working on their cover story(LIE) before they respond if they even do. They may not care or think I am serious. I'll just have to prove it to them I guess and see how they react. I have specific names of officers and city employees involved in this corruption.  This will get ugly. 

No these are not conspiracy sites. But if they were those sites could provide valuable information. If It is true then it is not a conspiracy. I have used facebook, craigslist, copblock, AOL, Blogs and I have talked to folks that I work with that travel as much as I do and have been to these cities and  the 48 states. I have other means of investigation that I won't disclose obviously. I have a large  network of travelers that meet and share things.

And yes, the info will be posted. Maybe not on this site but on the appropriate venues and blogs. I have registered several domains and will be starting a website  to gather information and report on these things. The results of my investigation will be posted there too.

I have contacted Montgomery by email 3 tiimes and asked them to respond and they have not. They're probably working on their cover story(LIE) before they respond if they even do. They may not care or think I am serious. I'll just have to prove it to them I guess and see how they react. I have specific names of officers and city employees involved in this corruption.  This will get ugly. 

Okay so you were not exactly standing in front of your neighborhood Grocery store just asking a group of random strangers.   That sort of puts your "random" claim into dispute.

The reason you are being very secretive about the sites and methods is because these sites are probably the "conspiracy" sites or you are talking to people that would see police corruption even in cases of them just directing traffic and they had you stop to allow a person to cross the street.  So of course you are going to get very skewed results.

It will all be posted in due time.
- And if I had a $1 every time someone on this site posted that statement I wouldn't have to work anymore.  The fact is you will continue to insist that are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.  You will eventually get to the point where you will say you have what amounts to millions of pieces of evidence.  You will continue to keep saying that all of these facts will be posted "in due time".  But the reality of it is you, like every other person, will eventually slink away with out anyone ever seeing any of this evidence.

...Of course the next reply is that you do have all of this evidence, and you will eventually post it.  So perhaps you will be the first one who actually does, but I won't be holding my breath.

Our entire system in the United States of America is corrupt. The Federal Government, State Governments, and Local Governments are corrupt. Wall Street is corrupt. The majority of our Legal System is corrupt. Corruption is what drives much of our economy. Corruption is also what drove our country into a severe Recession back in 2008, and the American people were forced to bail-out the corrupt system with hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer's money from the TARP in order to keep it afloat.

Guess what?

Nothing much has changed. That is precisely why there will be another collapse of the system in the near future. This time we will go into a Depression. Just watch!

Make sure to 'Google' this- WHO OWNS THE FED BANK, WHO CONTROLS WHO VIDEO, and watch it on the web for important information about who ultimately controls the United States of America.

WELCOME TO AMERICA- ONE BIG CORRUPT LIE THAT IS BEING EXPOSED ON THE WORLDWIDE WEB EVERY DAY

I Met these people in my travels, through social networking, word of mouth, internet sites and other ways i'd rather not disclose.  I talked to about 100 people and about 50 of them had been screwed over by the Montgomery City PD.

Others told me of corruption, speed traps, revenue scams that they had first hand knowledge of not only in Montgomery but Carbondale, IL, Rolla , MO and several towns in Illinois and MO and some illegal scams in Louisiana and Mississippi. 

I am getting reports of things all over the country thru various websites and blogs and via email and other networks I have setup. There is one particular incident in Carbondale that is really outrageous and crooked. I have 3 credible witnesses as to what is going on there . 

As for Montrgomery, well I have evidence of total department and city corruption in an attempt to steal us blind and raise revenue. The citizens should be warned as well those travelling to Montgomery.

Anything else you want to know? It will all be posted in due time. I would like Montgomery's response to what i've been told.  As of today I have not heard from them.

How did you happen to hook-up with these 50 people?

I did pay the ticket the very last day it was due. I have Pre PAid legal and I did speak with a local attorney who was willing to take the case to keep it off my driving record. But the fine and court costs would have been in excess of $500.00 and I did not think it was worth it.

I just consider it a payment to the evil corrupt machine they run and hope that God has mercy on their Devil worshipping evil money grabbing souls.

As for the 50 or so folks that I've talked to , I realize that there are 3 sides to every story, but there is a pattern of consistency here and its hard to believe that a random 50 people are lying. I believe what they have told me because I have witnessed it myself not only in Montgomery but other towns such as Carbondale ,IL  and Rolla, MO.

I am going to post post my info on all these towns including my hometown of Fort Smith, AR and let everyone know what to expect when driving in these towns.

I also know about Charles and AL Citizen. Although I dont know anything about Phenix city , It would not surprise if this is happening and I have no reason not to believe him at this point.

Team rebuttal thinks they can keep me quiet they got another thing coming!.  This is a public website they can't make anyone stop coming to it I have rights to.

All this happen back in 05/2010 these neighbors woke us up around 3:00 A.M. in the morning.  You just have to point out every single detail to team rebuttal because they seem to can't understand anything you tell them.  Then 2 years later they pull something else to get back at us for calling the police on them because their guest was disturbing our peace.

We had to call the police again because they was having their guest block our drive-way & make it harder for us to back out onto the street.  We had to call the police about that then they started screaming & cussing us out again.  Its just a vicious cycle that never ends here in phenix city.

But who gets in trouble we do! not nobody else!.  But that is phenix city for you they love to get innocent people in trouble & not hold the people who are bothering you accountable!. Team rebuttal thinks i'am a good "LAUGH"  well i think their a bunch of a*****e scum of the earth bums!.  

I never have cares what team rebuttal has said about me.  But they can be sued for the things they have posted about me.  Lawyers do work on contingency for us so called "POOR" people.

Reply to rick just ignore the ignorant rebuttals from team rebuttal.  They will never get the picture that they can't get away with treating me like s*** & violating my civil rights which we are all entitled to if we are born in the United States Of America.  They seem to think that I don't have any rights or that I can enjoy life.

They try to take away my happiness & joy with their cruel comments that they post about me.  I'm listening to "Bon Jovi" shout to the heart "You give love a bad name". Team rebuttal "Gives Love A Bad name.  They are nothing but scum of the earth.

I don't even pay any attention to what they say about me anymore.  I post what I have to say if they don't like it they call me any names they like or bully me.

I'm also listening to "Twisted Sister"  I'm not gonna take it anymore which i'm not gonna take abuse or being bullied from the thugs team rebuttal.  They try their best to hurt my feelings but my feelings aren't hurt.  I just laugh at their stupid ignorant comments!.

Just watch they will come back with some attack comment to try to hurt my feelings!.

First off you should probably be aware that "Charles" is also "Alabama Citizen", "Alabama Resident",  "Former Phenix city Resident", as well as any of about a couple dozen other alias he uses on this site.  He makes several mistakes in his posts that make this quite obvious.   If you ever want to have a nice laugh, just look up some of the other reports involving anything around Phenix City and Charles.  So just be warned that you may not want to put too much validity into what he posts.

But on to your posts..

I have talked to more than 50 people that have been harrassed, arrested on trumped up charges, given phony tickets for offenses they did not commit.
- Really?  Amazing how people were totally honest with you.  If you really think this is a valid test, then why not take it to the next level.  Go to a Penitentiary in any State and talk to the prisoners.  I bet you could find a few thousand who would "Swear on their Mother's Grave" that they didn't commit the crime they are in prison for.

In looking at your original "Complaint".  It comes down to that you are upset at the cop for not only giving you a $165 ticket for what you think is an "archaic" law, but not giving you special treatment because you were from out of town.  Well if you don't like the laws, why don't you put all of this effort you are doing into changing these laws, so that no one else would ever have to suffer another "Failure to Dim" ticket.  Perhaps you can even get them to put in a special law that automatically makes any law automatically invalid for anyone from out of town.

By the way I don't think you ever posted what finally happened with your ticket.

Well people are trying to sleep at 3:00 a.m. in the morning the last thing people want to hear is neighbors fighting in the yard screaming and yelling at each other disorderly conduct while we are trying to sleep,  but we are in the wrong to call the police to get them to stop bickering at each other at 3:00 a.m.

The police had to come and break it up & then the other neighbors having their dog mess up our yard barking at us every second while we are trying to get in our car & having to call the dog pound because they refuse to keep their own dog in their yard!.  We have taken abuse from our neighbors.  the police and the judge who refused to see that we was the ones harassed having to call the police time after time to get them to stop bothering us.

Well the police is at fault for this problem for not helping us and getting us to be found guilty of harassment which our neighbors harassed us because we wanted to sleep at 3:00 a.m. & them having wild parties disturbing our peace but the bum hole police went against us!.  I do feel a little better telling our story on this site so I can vent my anger about the wrong that was did to us & how our disorderly neighbors got away harassing us! & the phenix city police let them get away with it!.

They all can kiss my freakin a*s so can the corrupt judge who found us guilty ahole!.

The neighbors threw a tempter tantrum because we called the police about the blocking our driveway to where we couldn't leave to go anywhere.  We got cussed out and screamed at the next morning and the police had to be called again but they refused to put a stop to the harassment from our neighbors.

We was well within our rights to call the police we just didn't call at random we called when we had a problem that proves how stupid the police really.  The sorry phenix city police caused us to be found guilty of harassing our neighbors because they wouldn't do their job in stopping the harassment instead they turned it around on us for us to stop calling them!.

Well why couldn't the police just tell these scumbag neighbors to leave us alone.  Isn't their job to keep the peace between trouble making neighbors well hey they even told us to call when ever we had a problem & it didn't matter how many police reports they had to file out!.

These neighbors think they can do anything they want & disrespect peoples property & make them go pure crazy but who gets in trouble we do! the ones who are being harass.  The police are just to blame for getting us in trouble because they wouldn't tell our neighbors to stop bugging us.

They have caused us severe emotional abuse I have suffered &  distress they have scorned me for life with all these injustices my neighbors the police the municipal court who refused to let us file harassment charges the judge who found us guilty.  These a*****e neighbors walk without being held accountable for anything!.  All thanks to the a*****e phenix city police!.

I have a right to be disgruntled but we know the real reason why all this took place.  I have a to expose our harassment & mistreatment from the police the municipal court judge & our neighbors we have been put threw hell because we stood up against our neighbors & not putting up with their harassment.

We did it buy reporting the harassment to the police & making police reports about each problem to show a pattern of us the ones who have been harassed to death & it will show the dirt bag police not doing nothing about it which is why we had to keep calling them because the neighbors simply wouldn't leave us alone on their own!.

The police reports will show how many times we had to call & the harassment continued from our neighbors because the police refused to take any action to make it stop! but we got the blame for everything!.

I had video of my neighbor harassing me saying the most profanity you can think of but the sorry phenix city police refused to look at.  Our neighbors kept harassing us until the court date & who gets found guilty we do! then the judge said for us to stay away from them!.

How do neighbors who are harassing us get to file charges of harassment I can tell you one thing the clerks in the municipal court of phenix city are corrupt you should had seen them laughing it up with our scumbag neighbors flaunting laughing with them in front of our face & the sorry phenix city police was laughing with them to in front of our face!.

Why do people want to cause so much drama in my life! the neighbors had no evidence to prove of their accusations against us but they still got believed.  We have been profiled buy everyone our neighbors was the ones in the middle of the street yelling to the top of their lungs and cussing us out.

They walk and we get in trouble they have managed to get everyone in town against us to get us found guilty during the trial.  The real problem behind this 5th grade drama is that we stood up to them they have done this to other people & gotten away with lying about them but they didn't like it when we stood up to them.

The stupid police put on the police report that we was both arguing.  This proves the police are trying to screw us over police are to serve and protect well not in this town its the opposite of what they are suppose to do.

They even have the trash people harassing us with them throwing our trash can in the muddy part in our yard because the city people gossip you know & since we got found guilty they are going to make it "ROUGH" for us & force us to move from out own house that we pay for!.  

Our public defender betrayed us and believed our lying scumbag neighbors & got us found guilty of harassing our neighbors when we was the ones being harassed & they knew we was being harassed but we found out why we was denied to file harassment charges the municipal court clerk is married to a police officer & the lying witch neighbor went to the Captain.

It is a kangaroo court all of this is just very bizarre. Why do they want to ruin us so badly our rights was raped big time well we have a regular attorney now not some stupid public defender who is getting paid buy the city.

Well all the trouble making neighbors have moved but left us with all this mess.

If these guys are harrassing you then you need to go and file a complaint against them with internal affairs.
Even if nothing is done it will be on the cops record for future reference.

I don't know anything about Phenix city but I have uncovered massive corruption and revenue scamming in Montgomery , AL. I have talked to more than 50 people that have been harrassed, arrested on trumped up charges, given phony tickets for offenses they did not commit. 

I've talked to folks that have been been swindled out of their hard earned money by the Montgomery PD and city administration. There have been cover ups, embezzlement,misappropriation of funds and just basically stealing from the citizens of Montgomery. 

I have compiled a 79 page report of this corruption and once I verify a few more details I will make it public and let them answer for it.

I suggest you go and do your own investigation. take names , notes and talk to people. Im sure you will find corruption and good ol boy coverups there too.Report the officers to the department.If you see them in the patrol car doing something wrong report them. Put them on nation databases for corrupt cops . I suggest copblock.org and maybe starting a facebook page. cal into local and national radio shows, publish their names in the local paper. Draw some attention to them.

We should not have to take this abuse from scum like this patrolling the streets or from those revenue hungry whores that run the city. I will help you anyway I can. Go to my facebook page arkansas copblock and leave me a message.

The municipal court judge  just is a sexist & a racist anyone can file harassment charges on you the phenix city police department shows favoritism toward certain people who don't have any health problems if they are married.  I'm harassed buy certain people in phenix city when I just go in town doing my business.

I don't bother anybody but why do they chose to harass me when i'm just minding my own business.  If they are unhappy with their lives its not my fault! certain trouble makers get away with harassing others in this town.  The phenix city police turn a blind eye to the problem & innocent people get arrested while the trouble makers are free to roam around causing injustices & getting innocent people in trouble,

Phenix city is a town of injustices they falsely charges to get innocent people in trouble its a never ending nightmare they put false things on peoples records just to screw them over once they have you in their hands it doesn't stop!.

I feel I have the right to speak my mind & if the police or the liars in the municipal court or the city of phenix city don't like it I don't care.  They shouldn't treat people differently based on if they have a disability or any other health problem! & let people who don't have any health problems or learning disability go free!. 

But that is what they are doing in this town being discrimantory.

We all know how crooked police officers don't like it when you complain about their own.  Well tough ****.  They should not mentally or verbal abuse people,  police officers are here to serve us.  Police officers don't like it when you complain about their own.  They gang up on you & waste federal money to falsely arrest you or to give you tickets for no reason.

They shouldn't take away peoples rights or abuse them.  I don't have very much respect for them at this time.

I live in Montgomery and I can say that everything posted so far is true. They make money on their bogus ticket writing and enforcement of laws that do not make sense. I know a guy that retired froj the PD and he told me things that would make your hair stand up. The corruption, evidence tampering, bribing, writing all the tickets they possibly can and just generally raising all the dollars to fund certain unethical and crooked things within the department.

no one dare come forward them or they might wind up in a roadside ditch with a bullet hole in them.
I agree something needs to be done. This kind of stuff has to stop, we are in a Police state and all our rights have been taken by greedy politicians and law enforcement officers that know how to work the system and think they are above the law.

What I meant to say is that while I do not think the cop was necessarily a racist  I believe he acted that way toward me and my race may have played a part in the way he treated me. I also said he might have given a brother a break where he did not give me one. That's not exactly racist but it does show favoritism to one's own race. So I stand corrected on the title of my last post .

However my opinion has  not changed about his attitude and how he acted towards me in general. There are racists everywhere. Thats not what this is about. It is about corruption and unethically raising revenue by collusion and deceit. That is what this about. Forget  the racism if there was any it was only aa small part of what started this whole thing.

"I never said the cop was racist"

Are you sure about that? On 12/15 you wrote, "I also believe he was Racist . He was black and saw a chance to stick it to whitey" and on 12/16 you wrote, "Yes I do think he was racist."

I believe race played a part in the way I was treated, that does not make him nor I a racist. I I think this runs much deeper than that. This is about corruption and how a crooked municipality and city leaders raise revenue with the help and blessing of the police department.

I am uncovering things about Montgomery from talking with people all over the country who have had run ins with them and their so called justice system. THis bunch is using the laws to their advantage and sometimes even going outside the the laws and the power they're granted. They are doing this to pad their retirement accounts and to line the pockets of all those involved.

There is really no telling where all this illicit revenue is going. Even with a thorough investigation and audit we may never know as they are good at covering things up.

Some of  the information I am getting is disturbing to say the least. This kind of corruption goes on in alot of towns ,big and small. IT is a good ol boy network of sleaze, corruption and cover-up and he who speaks is either dead or reprimandedd or put on administrative  leave.

Stay tuned folks there is more to come. This is going to get interesting.

That is how stupid the phenix city police are they have it in they're mind that i'm going to harm them,  we are the victim's we was mentally abused by our neighbors & because of they're false accusation the stupid police are thinking I was going to attack them.

While my family member was in court telling our side of the story,  i had to wait out side the court room because our sorry public defender wouldn't allow me to tell my side of the story.  That mean's the judge would had to rule in our favor he wasn't about to do that.

I don't trust no local lawyer's in phenix city,  because the phenix city police threaten them not to help people.  Why else would lawyer's quit in this town. The police let our lying neighbors in and out of the court room while telling me i had to stay & not move around. It was all due to this false accusation & the police believed they're lies.

The police turned everything around on us because they was friends with them.  On court date the police was laughing and having a good time with our accusers which was unprofessional.  The judge allowed the neighbors to laugh at us when he found us guilty he got a huge pay off.

All the names the neighbors called us they told the judge we said,  both of us have been denied employment because of these scumbag neighbors.  The DA accused us of calling him & being ugly which we have our phone records to prove we didn't.  The neighbors got everyone in the municipal court against us along with the police.  We have no help from anybody because we have no job to pay for a attorney.

We have been royally screwed,  but its not going to stop me from speaking out online & so no other person or person's will have to go threw this ordeal that we are going threw.  The municipal court is just trying to extort money from us.

I will not set foot in the phenix city police department or municipal court in phenix city,  after how they let our neighbors harass us & filed false harassment charges.  I will not set foot even if i'm given a ticket.  I will just mail it certified mail.

They're is  bad & reckless drivers out they're put they are to busy watching us because to see if we do anything wrong because of this false accusation.  These neighbors have caused us a lot of problems in getting everyone against.

These neighbors get away with the injustices they have caused us.

We got harassed buy our neighbors for several months.  They told me to take my mentally retarded self back in my own home screaming cussing using the every cuss word in the book.  They done this in the middle of the street disturbing the peace.

On court date they lied to the judge saying we said all the stuff they said.  The judge found us guilty based on they're lied.  The municipal court in phenix city wouldn't allow us to file a harassment on them,  but they allowed us to file a complaint on they're friends who was also harassing us.

The had no evidence of they're accusations the phenix city police was also in it.  Because of these lying neighbors the police now think i'm the bad guy & they're watching my every move trying to give me a ticket.

The p***k judge told us not to have any contact with them,  that doesn't mean that we stay inside our home 24/7 while they're outside.  These neighbors are truly the most heartless people I have ever seen in my life.  They have they're drinking parties & the cops are to busy watching us to look at them for drinking and driving.

When I pointed out how childish you was to call him a racist.  If any of us white people say anything against a black person we're automatically racist pigs .  I can see where this post Is going people will argue back & forth for month's on end. 

The black's are still angry about the past & when they become a law enforcement officer.  They think it gives them the power to harass white people.  So F*** you!.

I just accidentally erased my entire response to Rick, which will have to be rewritten after I get some sleep. In the meantime, I appreciate that Rick took the time to respond to my post and I'm confident that we can reach an understanding, with ONE exception...

If you don't want people assuming you're a racist, then it's probably NOT a good idea to make unfounded accusations of racism based solely on the fact that he was black. If there was more to your suspicion than "that's how black people are," I'd definitely like to hear it. Otherwise, how could such a claim be anything BUT racist?

Charles, nothing you said there made even a little bit of sense. Rick did not specify any racist behavior on the cop's part - so far, he's only stated how he SUSPECTS a black person would have been treated differently than he was. I don't doubt your claim that black people engage in racist behavior, which is NOT acceptable. However, if being black was the most racist thing he did, then I shouldn't have to explain why he's not the one with the problem.

These black police officers can be racist toward white people but if you, point it out you're consider the racist pig not them!.  Black people are the most racist in this country.  Even some black people who is a little more mature get tired of hearing about the race card.  They have for giving the past.  Its time for everyone else to.

You can't change the past or what has been done to you,  if "WHITE" people can sue for the racist things being said to them then black's shouldn't be allowed to sue either.

First of all I  do not want the officer reprimanded because he did not give me a warning. IT was his attitude and his actions that warrant a reprimand. 

I said very little to him. I said I didn't know the brights were on and said I sorry. Thats about all I said.

I understand your point about the bright lights but there was noone in front of me on either side of the road. I never said I did not break the law. I just think he should have given the benefit of the doubt.

AS for officer West. That is the name that was on the ticket. I even mentioned his name to a Captain Barnett in an email and was told they would contact his division commander Captain O'banion and forward the email to him. SO I do know the man exists.

 However I never heard a response from anyone even after 3 emails. So they were just blowing smoke just to see if I'd go away.Police are a close knit bunch and protect themselves so I don't doubt that you do not see much about him on the internet. Maybe i am the first one with the guts to stand up to this kind of tactic. 

I guarantee you his name will appear on a google search after I put this info on every site I can find.

And as for you thinking I am racist That is ridiculous.Why is it a Black  person can't be racist toward a white and any accusation makes the white a racist? Racism goes both ways. I was speaking the truth and I think he possibly would have given a brother a break under the same circumstances. It just depends on how bad he needed the money  at the time. I am not saying it was racially motivated but I think that was a factor. 

AM I helping my case? Well  I don't think I am hurting it . What can be done? The fine was sent to those leaches by certified mail and received on Dec 31st. SO that is done. I just want to make sure that as few people as possible get screwed by these slimy weasels.

As for the burden of proof? I know who has to prove it. I am working on that. It will take time and lots of networking and work. If there is evidence I will find it over time. I have already begun interviewing people and compiling a database of information.

I am not picking on just Montgomery. I think many cities are corrupt . The laws give them a license to steal with drug forfeitures, asset forfeitures , cash confiscation and other things that drive the greed and corruption. I'd like to expose as many as I possibly can.

I realize that NOBODY likes getting a ticket, but nothing you've described qualifies as an act of police corruption. On the contrary, I think you're bitter because you weren't shown any lenience or favoritism, which would actually have fallen closer to the true definition of corruption. You don't even deny that you WERE, in fact, breaking a traffic law - you just sullenly pout about the enforcement of "stupid, meaningless, and archaic laws." If you were just pulling out of a parking lot, you shouldn't have needed your brights on to begin with, but even if you're one of those "cautious" types, you're NOT supposed to have them on around any other motorists. Did you know that MIRRORS can reflect bright lights and reduce someone's visibility even from behind?

The fact that you think "things would have gone differently if you were black" tells me that YOU'RE the racist! Furthermore, it's clear to me that deep down, you know you're being petty and unreasonable, which is why you're demanding that everyone who disagrees "prove" to you that there's no corrupt cops out there. In the American justice system, the burden of proof is on the ACCUSER and despite exhaustive amounts of bitter testimony on your part, you have not described a single example of corruption or unreasonable treatment at the hands of the officer. It's obvious you didn't care for his "uppity" attitude, but I'm sure the feeling was probably mutual. I can't help but wonder... did you even try to apologize or accept any personal responsibility for shining your high beams right out of the parking lot or did you just jump right in with self-justified outrage?

Since I just know you're going to ask, I am in no way affiliated with law enforcement. I don't work as a cop or even have friends and family that do. I've gotten my share of tickets. Hell, some of the cops that wrote them were even less than charming about it, but ALL of the fines I paid were the result of my own doing. Everyone breaks the law from time to time and we ALL want to get away with it, so there's nothing wrong with you for being unhappy about the situation. However, you are NOT helping your case with this asinine crusade to "expose" a legitimate ticket as an act of racially motivated corruption. You've mentioned Officer West by name and are demanding that he be reprimanded for not letting you off with a warning. A quick Google search on my part demonstrated that either you're mistaken about your belief that his name was A. J. West or else you're the only person with internet access who's got a problem with his tactics.

That being said, I harbor no illusions (but sadly, some small hope) that I've enlightened you even slightly with my perspective. Despite every indication that you're a hateful and immature racist, I'll try to believe that you only seem that way because you feel persecuted and put-upon. Believe it or not, I actually do sympathize with your angst - just because I think you're wrong doesn't mean that I want you to be as miserable as you seem to be. I wish you well, Rick, and hope that this situation resolves itself exactly as you deserve - no more and no less. Happy New Year and whatever you do, watch out for the cops!

Alabama Citizen

Thanks for your post. I am curious to know what they have done to you specifically. I hope you will join me in exposing these crooks for what they are. Go to other forums and post your info. Visit my face book page at www.facebook.com/ArkansasCopBlock and post what you have.

All my rights have been taken away because Alabama is a "n**i" state & they are corrupt.  Its a "Republican State" that explains all this corruption.  They should be held accountable but it will take an act of god to do so.

I read that article. I will admit that not all cops are corrupt. But 90% of them are. I know a few former city officers  personally and one state trooper that all had to get out of the business because of what they were forced to do . They could not rape and pillage at departments orders in good conscience so they resigned and got respectable jobs in the private sector.

They all told me things that If I were to name all the guilty parties involved I am afraid I would not make it home one night and would never be seen again. Things involving the County Sheriff , the Local police department where I once lived and some city administrators and officials. All as corrupt as can be and made a killing stealing from the city and the citizens they represented. They also covered up numerous incidents and reprimanded anyone who tried to do the right thing.

The good ones are few and far between but they do exist. We just need more of them to stand up for what is right and not serve their evil masters.

I'm sure it is going on in Montgomery too. I just talked to a postal worker today who has a sister in Birmingham. She travels to Montgomery  frequently on business and she has encountered corruption there much more than I have. He put me in touch with her and I will be putting together a report of what she says.

I read that article. I will admit that not all cops are corrupt. But 90% of them are. I know a few former city officers  personally and one state trooper that all had to get out of the business because of what they were forced to do . They could not rape and pillage at departments orders in good conscience so they resigned and got respectable jobs in the private sector.

They all told me things that If I were to name all the guilty parties involved I am afraid I would not make it home one night and would never be seen again. Things involving the County Sheriff , the Local police department where I once lived and some city administrators and officials. All as corrupt as can be and made a killing stealing from the city and the citizens they represented. They also covered up numerous incidents and reprimanded anyone who tried to do the right thing.

The good ones are few and far between but they do exist. We just need more of them to stand up for what is right and not serve their evil masters.

I'm sure it is going on in Montgomery too. I just talked to a postal worker today who has a sister in Birmingham. She travels to Montgomery  frequently on business and she has encountered corruption there much more than I have. He put me in touch with her and I will be putting together a report of what she says.

There is a person who made a video that exposes the organized crime syndicate that ultimately controls the U.S. Government and Wall Street.

You can 'Google' this- WHO OWNS THE FED BANK, WHO CONTROLS WHO VIDEO, and watch it on the web for proof.

Happy New Year!

You never say what you do for a living. If you are a cop just own up to it. I am working to prove my allegations and I will post any evidence or statements that I may obtain to prove this.  They've  gone and pissed off the wrong person and I will see to it that everyone that is guilty that their name be brought out to face public scrutiny.

 Stealing $165.00 from me and my family will not be taken lightly and I will expose the criminals. I am just getting started with  my campaign against corruption and it will be an uphill battle. Thats why I am asking for help. There is strength in numbers. And I want Montgomery to get some bad  publicity out of this and maybe tourism  or travel there will be affected thus costing them some money.  Same goes goes for other cities an jurisdictions. I want to expose all of them I can.

The majority of our system in the USA has its foundation solidly built on lies, deception, fraud, and corruption.

Many Americans are aware that the majority of the Police Departments in this country have corrupt people who are working there. Many Americans are also aware that the majority of our politicians are corrupt, because they are ultimately working for the banking cartel and for Wall Street and not for the American people.

However, there is at least one good cop in the USA.

You can 'Google' this- POLICE CAPTAIN TO BE PUNISHED OVER OWS SUPPORT RT, and watch that video on the web and find out who he is.

You can also type in 805085 at this site and scroll down to 'Consumer Comment #19' at Ripoff Report #805085 and read a poem about this cop.

Happy New Year!

"You have given  no specific evidence to prove there is no corruption."

In this country the accused are not required to prove innocence. The accuser must prove guilt.

I never claimed that there is no corruption in the justice system. I balked at your flimsy juvenile excuses that you should not have received the ticket because you had been working and because you were from out of town.

Coast

 You have given  no specific evidence to prove there is no corruption. All you do is lecture on how and why to obey the law and why cops do what they do.  None of it makes sense to the average person caught up in this revenue scam and relieved of their hard earned money  because of these criminals.


I will not give up on this. I have taken a proactive approach against police and government corruption. I have started a blog where people can report things and share information, I have started a Facebook page of Cop Block Arkansas. I have called into local radio shows and posted how corrupt they are on infowars.com and numerous sites. I have started my own investigation of the city of Montgomery and other corrupt municipalities in an effort to  help anyone I can not have to contribute to this illicit revenue scheme. 


Police use these ridiculous laws to have probable cause to stop you so they can go on a fishing expedition. Maybe they will find drugs, or find someone with a warrant  or if they really need the money at the time they could plant drugs or evidence on you just to get a Bust and the revenue and asset forfeiture that comes with it. That's why they are corrupt the laws give them a license to steal and they take full advantage of it.


I encourage anyone reading this to get involved. Start reporting abuse when you see it. Call your local radio station call in shows, write the newspaper , post on the internet. When you see a cop violating the law report him. If you are behind one and he doesn't  signal, or changes lanes improperly or has his brights on or is exceeding the speed limit  or what ever  you see. Take the number of the car and report him. Whether it be Local , State or even county sheriff. If it is the Sheriff and they are corrupt then vote them out next election .


Download an app to your phone that will record the audio and or video with a touch of a button. If you are stopped record everything and hope they don't steal your phone or try to get the information from it. Be discreet! I recorded  my incident with officer A J West and I emailed the .wav file to myself so I will always have it. 


We have to protect ourselves ourselves against these leeches or like the other poster said they will bleed dry with their corrupt police state tactics. If anyone wants more info just post in this forum and I will get you a list of websites you can go to and share info.


I won't rest until  these crooks are brought to justice and exposed for what they really are. I will pay my fine as I have no choice . But I will do everything I can legally to see that Montgomery PD doesn't extort another dime out of unsuspecting taxpayers.


Information is Power! Take a stand and let's take a bite out of this corrupt revenue scam and hit them in the pocket books where it really hurts. Bad publicity can't hurt either. Lets name names!

I had a similar incident in montgomery about a year ago. I was on Atlanta hwy around 10pm and was stopped for having a headlight out. I knew it was out and it had just blew when I turned my lights on. Not much I could so about it at that time. 

A cop stopped me for it and gave me a ticket for headlight out and failure to maintain vehicle. The total fine was $325.
I think it was ridiculous to ticket twice. The headlight was bad enough but there was no evidence i failed to maintain my vehicle. That was just a way for him to get more revenue from the stop 

. I didnt intentionally break the law as I had no control over when a headlight will blow. I even got statements from my mechanic and maintenance records showing proper maintenance on my car. I took it to court and it was not dismssed .Judge found in police favor. (shocking I know). He was just a corrupt as the rest of them. with everything i gave them it should have been dismissed but judge didnt even consider it.

I think it was a bogus revenue scam too. I agree with the original poster. Only a town running a crooked revenue scam would do something like that. The cop was a real smart a*s and probably would have stopped me anyway and busted out my taillight and call it probable cause to get some revenue..He was also black and I am not. Maybe it is a racial thing since montgomery is 85% black. ITS DISGUSTING . They are crooked and I agree that calling them thieves is not exaggerating. It sickens me to know tax dollars are funding these cretans. they are like parasites sucking us dry in their quest for revenue. Stop The corruptiion! Spread the word on these Crooked cops and city officials.

No this officer defnitely wasn't super. Despite having my Drivers license in his possession for over 20 minutes he still managed to spell both names wrong and put my middle name as my first name. Super is not the word I would use.

Yes I do think he was racist. Had I been black I think things might have gone differently.

I do think the city is run by people that are corrupt and the mayor and police department are part of the corruption and perpetuate the scheme just to get the revenue. I suggest anyone do a google search and you'd be surprised to see how many cities across the US are doing this and what  they spend that money for. It is obscene. As I said we are dealing with thieves here. 

I have posted this info on at least 15 venues on the internet and I am not done. I want this officer reprimanded or my $165 returned. (I have not paid the ticket yet). Although I know nothing will happen. As I said they all stick together. its part of their Illicit scheme. I would even call it extortion.

If you do not think they are corrupt then prove it. Show me some evidence to back it up. I can dig deeper into this myself and there is no telling what skeletons might fall out the closets of  those 
involved in this.

I have started an Arkansas chapter of Cop Block on facebook to help spread the word. Montgomery is no different than the  corruption in Chicago, Dallas, Houston,LA , New york and other cities. Its just on a smaller scale and probably is less noticed to the dumbed down masses of the city. 

"I also believe he was Racist . He was black and saw a chance to stick it to whitey especially since I was from out of state"

You forgot to mention that he was Superman, because at night, from across the street, he was able to see you were white and from out of state.

It's amazing that from that one event you were able to determine that the people running the town are revenue driven, evil corrupt racist criminals that extort taxpayers through rape and pillage. With all that amazing insight you were unable to find an extra second to turn off your high beams.

Who are you? The chief of police in Montgomery? What a dumb response. As far as fighting this ticket my options are limited. I am 600 miles away. Hiring a lawyer is $350 and I would most likely lose in front of a corrupt  judge. They protect their own you know. The other option is to pay it obviously. 

My complaint is that the ticket never should have been written . I was pulling out of a parking lot . I did not have the chance to dim. The cop was sitting at a substation just across the street looking for his mark.  His attitude was atrocious and he acted in a non professional manner. 

I believe he would have found another reason to stop me even if my brights had not been on .That was a convenient excuse. I also believe he was Racist . He was black and saw a chance to stick it to whitey especially since I was from out of state and would most most likely not be there to appear in court.

What we are dealing with here is very simple. They are thieves. They take an annual salary plus all they can steal Thats how they fund their pension and other things.

The city , the department  the people that run the town are criminals that should be in jail . They are running a crooked revenue scheme to  extort taxpayers and there is almost nothing we can do about it except get the word out to as many people as possible. It is a shame when the people we pay to protect us are so revenue driven that they serve evil just to keep their jobs. In my opinion they are no better than the crooks we pay them to protect us from. 

They rape and pillage because they can and they like it. It is not only Montgomery but countless PD's and cities across the country.  People should be aware and stand up against this type of money hungry corruption.

"I am looking for ways to fight this ticket"

You'll need a better argument than, "I had been working at the hospital helping them with their benefits" and "he could have just given me a warning knowing that I don't live here."

You will need a better excuse for driving with your high beams on; even though I find it intriguing that you think it's ok to violate highway laws when visiting other cities.