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Complaint Review: Computertraining.com Bryan Tolbert Greg Maiuri Monica Vasquez - Overland Park Kansas

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Computertraining.com Bryan Tolbert Greg Maiuri Monica Vasquez
10851 Mastin BLVD. 82 Corporate Woods Suite 100 Overland Park, 66210 Kansas, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-733-5641
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Here is an overview of the experience I recently had with computertraining.com and the local center where I attended their "information session" I hope this would serve as a guide to help the uninformed become aware of the questionable and downright deceitful business practices this company uses to lure in potential customers.

After seeing their commercial on my local television station for what seemed a million times, I decided to actually go to their website to see what all of the hype was about. I was genuinely excited that I could finally find a place where I could get the certifications I needed for what seemed like a credible source. In the end, I was ultimately proved wrong and felt embarrassed for being reeled in by these salesmen in disguise. Once I navigated to the website, I saw the usual claims of earning great money with their program and got very excited I found a gem.

As explained on their site, they say they use three tests to determine ability and to assess personal knowledge. Well wouldn't you know it? I scored a 100% on the first test, which was so easy a 3 year old could have aced it. The second test was a little more difficult. After completing it I never received my score nor was I prompted to take the 3rd test. Instead I was asked to fill out my name and telephone number to be considered for their program. I scheduled a time to be called back in a couple of days to discuss my options with an "admissions director".

I'm not kidding, not even 5 minutes went by when the phone rang. I answered it and sure enough it was them. "This is Greg Maiuri with Computertraining.com how are you today"? What the hell, I just took the test!? He told me he was the "assistant director of admissions" and congratulated me on getting a perfect score on the first test. This is where the hook, line and sinker began. He went on to say the national average for test two was 2/10 and I got a 4/10! Congratulations, I DOUBLED the national average! After a butt kissing session ensued to boost my ego, I agreed to come in a couple of days and talk with the "director of admissions" himself Bryan Tolbert.

From the time I received the first call to the very hour before I was scheduled Greg and another woman, Trish McCown must have called a half dozen times to make sure I was still coming and if I was going to bring a guest. I later found out that they get commissions for each person that comes in, so that explains the phone harassment and constant hounding. On the big day of meeting with Mr. Tolbert arrived I showed up at the local CT.COM site and was expecting a one on one with him. Instead I was herded into a computer classroom with other potential customers.

I sat through a 30-minute presentation from Monica Vasquez the "director of placement" and was bombarded with lofty statistics and promises of receiving employment after completing the program. After that Mr. Tolbert made an appearance with a carefully crafted PowerPoint presentation that played on monitors in front of us. I honestly felt like I was sitting through a high pressured sales pitch that time-share salesmen use on the unsuspecting. To keep the group focused he called out to people in the room to read the bullets of each carefully construed page: "Certifications are the Standard", "IT jobs are the fastest growing in the U.S." "IT seekers enjoy excellent job prospects over the next decade".

Ok, I get it I thought to myself, but I thought I was going to meet with someone over my high test scores! As this painfully transparent sales pitch continued it was getting more apparent that I had made a mistake. I looked down on Mr. Tolbert's card and read: Director of Admissions Bryan Tolbert MBA. Oh God, I thought I was going to meet with a PhD or at least a certified instructor with a couple of certs behind his name. Instead I got a salesman. Sure enough as the dreaded moment approached to discuss "tuition" I could feel the atmosphere of the room yearning to get the hell out. Then it happened. Wham!

$13,500 was all it would cost. If I didn't happen to have that lying around in a coin jar I had the option to go with Sallie Mae and get a loan with 12 months deferment. Not only that, but I could also get a "cosponsor" (not to be confused with a cosigner) if my credit was less than stellar. Needless to say I felt duped, ashamed, embarrassed and stupid that I got reeled into this thing and quietly made my way out and never looked back.

To have a little piece of mind I decided that I would make my experience known to those of you who are thinking of using this company. I was relieved to discover that I wasn't the only one who fell for this crap and thanked my lucky stars that I never went ahead and spent the money on them. From what I've read and heard, those unlucky enough to go through the program come out frustrated at not only failing at getting their certifications due to inadequate training, but being in debt for years upon years to Sallie Mae. Hopefully this helped all of you. Good luck and stay away from these folks. It will be the smartest thing you'll do in considering this company.

Anonoman

Kansas City, Kansas

U.S.A.


3 Updates & Rebuttals

FrankW

Perrysburg,
Ohio,
USA
Update:

#2Consumer Comment

Mon, December 14, 2009

Just a little update, I posted a little while back because I was so disgusted at the people on this website who all say that this school is a ripoff....anyhow...Since I posted last I have obtained not one but two MCTS certifications, my MCP, and am only one exam away from my MCSA...even though CTC.edu is currently a MCSA program I plan to take the training I received here and get my MCSE on my own time since they teach you the right approach for Microsoft exams. O yeah by the way, like I said I'm one exam away form my MCSA, well that's with over 2 months still remaining in the course. So, "inadequate training"....yeah definitely not......Don't worry I'll be sure to keep you updated on my future progress as well.

Good luck to everyone out there that is fortunate enough to take this opportunity and work hard to better themselves as well.


FrankW

Perrysburg,
Ohio,
USA
Overview...

#3General Comment

Wed, October 14, 2009

Just to give a little overview of who I am: I am currently enrolled at the ComputerTraining.com school in Independence which is just outside of Cleveland. I am not being told to post these nor am I employed by this school. I am simply a current student that believes in an education in IT and also know and can prove what these certifications can do for you.

This "overview" from someone that was not willing to get into the program and push for a better future is terribly riddled with misinformation....

First: The online entrance exam yes the first part of the test is extremely easy as this part of the test is designed to determine if you at least know basic and I mean really basic computer skills.  The second part of the test is designed to give questions that are based on course work from the first two months of class so that they can determine where you currently sit within the program. and the third test which most people never see is of content covered late in the program. These tests allow the staff to determine where you are based on your current knowledge. The person who wrote in here acts as if they use this as a sales pitch. Yes the national average is only 2 right on the second test...I got 6 right on it and I know I got 6 right...it wasn't just part of a pitch.

Second: Of course they will try and contact you quickly they do make money off of doing this...do you think that facilities that provide education just do it for free...of course not...after they contact you they do setup a meeting with you that has for a lack of better words a "sales pitch". Once again...I also went to college...you get a very similar speech there too...they are there to make money as well as provide you with an education!!!

Third: You said you met with an MBA, I can tell you that yes someone with a degree in business would be the person someone would want running the admissions department but when it comes to those who are teaching you in these programs the instructors ARE highly certified and very professional.

Forth: The cost...$13,500 dollars is all it was going to cost you for an education and you though this was expensive?!?!?! I hate to tell you but go look into getting a college degree and you will think this program is a bargain. You can get a job with these certifications


Monica

USA
The truth about CTC Placement information

#4

Fri, August 14, 2009

I can not speak to the entire Admissions process as I did not work in that department but I can speak to the Director of Placement's process. 

First it's good to know that I have been the Director of Placement for two schools so am very familiar with the correct processes and procedures.   We never "promise" students or potential students they will get a job after school.  That's just ignorant because there's so many factors that go into getting a job, the number one being the student themselves.  They have to be able to sell themselves to potential employers.  We do everything we can to prepare students for job interviews, revise their resumes, speak to potential employers on their behalf, etc but never say they are guaranteed to get a job.  That is up to the individual themselves. 

Second, I did not speak for "30 minutes".  I spoke for 5-7 min max and could type out the whole script if necessary.  It's basically going over all the services the Placement department does to prepare students for the career world. 

Finally, the "lofty" statistics were statistics from Salary.com which anyone can go on and verify the average numbers listed.  Also, I shared success stories of what types of jobs and salaries graduates have received after completing the program.  These are not made up and are submitted to the school by the graduates themselves with their signatures so none of the information I gave during my 5-7min presentation was false. 



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