Dee
Florida,#2Consumer Suggestion
Mon, June 22, 2009
Learn how to read: I copied and pasted this from your post above: Thomas Troy, New York U.S.A. response to paris I think you ought to look before you leap. Go to dell financial website and see who owns who. To help alleviate the financial burden of investing in technology, Dell inc, and Newcourt credit group, inc (acquired by CIT in November 1999) founded dell financial services L.P. (DFS) in the spring of 1997. That means that CIT acquired Newcourt credit group, NOT dell (DUH)
D K
Jacksonville,#3Consumer Suggestion
Tue, January 06, 2009
When a poster is wrong and still wants to b*tch about something and people point out to them that they are wrong, those people "must be" employess of the co the poster is whining about? Seems to happen all the time when the original poster is an idiot. And who asked for opinions? are you serious?? you posted in a PUBLIC forum moron. geesh.
Christine
Seffner,#4Consumer Suggestion
Mon, September 24, 2007
Your "payment due" needs to be paid in FULL by the due date. If it is a one time error, MOST companies will refund the late fee charge. If this is your 1st "late" payment, make the request. Dell has not done anything wrong.
Thomas
Troy,#5Author of original report
Tue, June 13, 2006
OK Paris, if it is none of our business, then why did you reply????
Paris
Austin,#6UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, June 13, 2006
I moved on to another company for more pay.
Robert
Rochester,#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 09, 2006
Since you are so supportive of Dell, why are you responding to my post which was done at YOUR request? http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff194150.htm
Thomas
Troy,#8REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
If you are defending dell so much, why aren't you still working for them?? You act as thought dell is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thomas
Troy,#9REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
If you are defending dell so much, why aren't you still working for them?? You act as thought dell is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thomas
Troy,#10REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
If you are defending dell so much, why aren't you still working for them?? You act as thought dell is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thomas
Troy,#11REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
If you are defending dell so much, why aren't you still working for them?? You act as thought dell is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thomas
Troy,#12REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
I think you ought to look before you leap. Go to dell financial website and see who owns who. To help alleviate the financial burden of investing in technology, Dell inc, and Newcourt credit group, inc (acquired by CIT in November 1999) founded dell financial services L.P. (DFS) in the spring of 1997.
Paris
Austin,#13UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, June 09, 2006
First let me start by saying the obvious. $1 short is still short. Yes fool you will get a late fee. Next time try to live up to your obligations and pay yo bills. Who cares if they outsource. That should have nothing to do with the fact that yall sent your checks in late, or to the wrong address, or left off your account number, or paid less than the agreed amount. READ YOUR TERMS OF CONTRACT! DFS owns DFS, CIT is the lender. You know just like when you buy a car and the lender is a credit union. That doesn't mean they own the dealership. Oh and Dell doesn't send people to pick up your computer. Yall need to quit complaining yall screwed up. Get over it. And DFS is located in both Austin and Round Rock TX.
Ginger
Live Oak,#14UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, June 08, 2006
First I worked for Dell Financial Several Years ago at an outsource in Lake City Florida, so not all outsourcing is overseas and Texas is not the only American outsource. Second, we never transferred calls to a supervisor. We put the customer on hold and raised our hand and waited and waited and waited some more for a supervisor. It was very RARE that any credits were given and in the case of Dell Financial Returning Funds that were overpaid on accounts it doesn't happen unless the customer calls and complains. Example customer calls in says she over paid her account, wants a refund. Rep tells her it will take 30-60 days for refund check. Cust. replies NO you have had my check for more than 3 months I want an immediate refund. Call is escalated and supervisor takes call. No problem you will have your check in 3 days. Well 2 weeks later she is calling again still not check. She sent a check for $4 million dollars instead of $400,000 the check cleared account was listed as paid but Dell never willingly returned her funds and after requesting said funds it still took her 30 days or more to receive them. You would think when a company spends that much with Dell that they would be willing to compensate the customer immediately this is not the case. Dell Financial never routed the numbers correctly. And when you advised the customer that they were in the wrong department you got cussed out and told no I don't want to be transferred I want you to help me. Well I worked in Dell Small Business. I had no access to personal accounts so I could not help even had I wanted to. Further more the customer is requested to enter their account number prior to speaking with a rep so that their wait time is decreased well at our call center our phones did not have a dislplay screen that worked therefore the first thing we had to ask for was their account number. Customers in general don't appreciate this and they let you know it. We were told never give a credit unless approved by a supervisor. That increases the customers wait time and the rep's call time which according to Dell should be 5 mins or less or no raise for the rep In short Dell Financial Has some of the crappiest customer service I have ever seen. Just my cent's.
Thomas
Troy,#15REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 07, 2006
Dell Financial is actually owned by a company called CIT GROUP INC. They are a leading commercial and consumer finance company. Their headquarters are located at 505 5th ave in new york city. If you are leasing dell equipment, you are actually leasing from CIT.
Robert
Rochester,#16Consumer Comment
Wed, June 07, 2006
their products are crap, their service sucks and their "seperate company" Dell Perferred Fiancial, is a joke. A number of years ago I had my identity stolen. The slime opened an account with Dell. When notified, Dell REFUSED to work with either me or the police to track down the person responsible. About a year and a half ago, a number of residents at a nursing home I worked with were also victims of identity theft. Again, Dell REFUSED to help in the investigation. I will NEVER buy a Dell.
Aafes
Viernheim,#17Consumer Comment
Wed, June 07, 2006
Thomas, your reasoning is flawed. "Even if i was a dollar short on that payment, you don't charge a late charge. You inform that person that the payment was a dollar short." Minimum payment due has a meaning. The payment is required by your loan contract. I am certain the contract also stated, clearly, that if the payment was not received you would pay a late charge. The late charge was assessed in March because you were given until the end of the billing cycle to make a full payment. When your account cycled into March, a late fee was added as full payment was not received. You stated the late fee was credited - you have no beef here. As for your "customer is always right" theory, it is not a financially viable policy for any business. If you were to take this theory literally as a business owner you would quickly find your doors closed. I no longer buy Dell products. Not because of billing/payment problems but because of my experience with poor quality. I have found the customer service representatives, from India, to be knowledgeable and polite - despite the restrictions put on them by Dell to help a customer. I am the owner of a $1200 Dell laptop that is now a paperweight. In less than a year the connection (part of the system board) at which the power supply/charger is plugged into the laptop simply snapped off and now rattles around inside the system. Dell's response was that they had NEVER had the problem reported with this model despite EXACT duplicates of the occurrence in a "laptop forum" which they link to from their own website. They refused the repair, even under warranty.
Aafes
Viernheim,#18Consumer Comment
Wed, June 07, 2006
Thomas, your reasoning is flawed. "Even if i was a dollar short on that payment, you don't charge a late charge. You inform that person that the payment was a dollar short." Minimum payment due has a meaning. The payment is required by your loan contract. I am certain the contract also stated, clearly, that if the payment was not received you would pay a late charge. The late charge was assessed in March because you were given until the end of the billing cycle to make a full payment. When your account cycled into March, a late fee was added as full payment was not received. You stated the late fee was credited - you have no beef here. As for your "customer is always right" theory, it is not a financially viable policy for any business. If you were to take this theory literally as a business owner you would quickly find your doors closed. I no longer buy Dell products. Not because of billing/payment problems but because of my experience with poor quality. I have found the customer service representatives, from India, to be knowledgeable and polite - despite the restrictions put on them by Dell to help a customer. I am the owner of a $1200 Dell laptop that is now a paperweight. In less than a year the connection (part of the system board) at which the power supply/charger is plugged into the laptop simply snapped off and now rattles around inside the system. Dell's response was that they had NEVER had the problem reported with this model despite EXACT duplicates of the occurrence in a "laptop forum" which they link to from their own website. They refused the repair, even under warranty.
Aafes
Viernheim,#19Consumer Comment
Wed, June 07, 2006
Thomas, your reasoning is flawed. "Even if i was a dollar short on that payment, you don't charge a late charge. You inform that person that the payment was a dollar short." Minimum payment due has a meaning. The payment is required by your loan contract. I am certain the contract also stated, clearly, that if the payment was not received you would pay a late charge. The late charge was assessed in March because you were given until the end of the billing cycle to make a full payment. When your account cycled into March, a late fee was added as full payment was not received. You stated the late fee was credited - you have no beef here. As for your "customer is always right" theory, it is not a financially viable policy for any business. If you were to take this theory literally as a business owner you would quickly find your doors closed. I no longer buy Dell products. Not because of billing/payment problems but because of my experience with poor quality. I have found the customer service representatives, from India, to be knowledgeable and polite - despite the restrictions put on them by Dell to help a customer. I am the owner of a $1200 Dell laptop that is now a paperweight. In less than a year the connection (part of the system board) at which the power supply/charger is plugged into the laptop simply snapped off and now rattles around inside the system. Dell's response was that they had NEVER had the problem reported with this model despite EXACT duplicates of the occurrence in a "laptop forum" which they link to from their own website. They refused the repair, even under warranty.
Aafes
Viernheim,#20Consumer Comment
Wed, June 07, 2006
Thomas, your reasoning is flawed. "Even if i was a dollar short on that payment, you don't charge a late charge. You inform that person that the payment was a dollar short." Minimum payment due has a meaning. The payment is required by your loan contract. I am certain the contract also stated, clearly, that if the payment was not received you would pay a late charge. The late charge was assessed in March because you were given until the end of the billing cycle to make a full payment. When your account cycled into March, a late fee was added as full payment was not received. You stated the late fee was credited - you have no beef here. As for your "customer is always right" theory, it is not a financially viable policy for any business. If you were to take this theory literally as a business owner you would quickly find your doors closed. I no longer buy Dell products. Not because of billing/payment problems but because of my experience with poor quality. I have found the customer service representatives, from India, to be knowledgeable and polite - despite the restrictions put on them by Dell to help a customer. I am the owner of a $1200 Dell laptop that is now a paperweight. In less than a year the connection (part of the system board) at which the power supply/charger is plugged into the laptop simply snapped off and now rattles around inside the system. Dell's response was that they had NEVER had the problem reported with this model despite EXACT duplicates of the occurrence in a "laptop forum" which they link to from their own website. They refused the repair, even under warranty.
Thomas
Troy,#21REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, June 06, 2006
I just paid off my dell computer and sent it back to them. Once you get this settled, I believe you can send the computer back to them at your expense, and pay a fee to dell. Next there are plenty of computer companies on the internet that will build a computer for you with your specifications. Dell's better computers are over priced. Their cheaper computers, say around $300-$500 dollars are junk. GOOD LUCK.
Thomas
Troy,#22REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, June 06, 2006
I just paid off my dell computer and sent it back to them. Once you get this settled, I believe you can send the computer back to them at your expense, and pay a fee to dell. Next there are plenty of computer companies on the internet that will build a computer for you with your specifications. Dell's better computers are over priced. Their cheaper computers, say around $300-$500 dollars are junk. GOOD LUCK.
Thomas
Troy,#23REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, June 06, 2006
I just paid off my dell computer and sent it back to them. Once you get this settled, I believe you can send the computer back to them at your expense, and pay a fee to dell. Next there are plenty of computer companies on the internet that will build a computer for you with your specifications. Dell's better computers are over priced. Their cheaper computers, say around $300-$500 dollars are junk. GOOD LUCK.
Thomas
Troy,#24REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, June 06, 2006
I just paid off my dell computer and sent it back to them. Once you get this settled, I believe you can send the computer back to them at your expense, and pay a fee to dell. Next there are plenty of computer companies on the internet that will build a computer for you with your specifications. Dell's better computers are over priced. Their cheaper computers, say around $300-$500 dollars are junk. GOOD LUCK.
Robert
Rochester,#25Consumer Comment
Tue, June 06, 2006
the people who responed "who asked for thier opinioin.." Well, YOU DID. If you post here, you will get a response. If you are wrong, people will tell you that.. if youre right, people will tell you that too.. Get over it.
Barb
Potosi,#26Consumer Comment
Tue, June 06, 2006
ok I had paid off my computer with dell financial. They (dell lost the payment) they posted it a year later. They are charging me late fees out the bottom and now they have people calling yelling at me saying they are sending people to my home to pick up a computer I paid off. Is that common practice? They called so much at work after I sent them copies of the payment I made, I was put on probation. They have ruined my credit and i'm tired of being threatend I told them I will see them in court and all they do is yell at me and say they are sending men to my house to pick up the computer. To which I had to replace the hard drive the monitor and everything with it. I told them to quit threatening me and I would see them in court. Sstill they call threatening me. I have 4 kids yet for me it is scary the conversations and the way they get. And I have proved over and over I payed the computer off. How do I stop that! I do not have the money for an attorney. What is your advice on that. They did get my payment that I made in april of o4 they posted it in january of 05. They are scarying me. they belittle you i'm tired of it. What is your advice. IT IS ALL LATE FEES AND INTEREST ON A PAYMENT THEY LOST!!
T
Austin,#27UPDATE Employee
Thu, March 23, 2006
In defenseof the other posters, I doubt they are Dell employees by their locations. I will be happy to explain our automated system for payment posting. Dell Financial is a very large company. The number of payments we receive every month is truly amazing, in the hundreds of thousands. When a payment is received, the account is not thoroughly reviewed. This would not be efficient as most payments require no research. If we were to do that, it would literally take months for each of your payments to be reflected on your statements. So, the check is cashed and applied to the account. No problem? Well, occasionally a mistake happens like the one the original poster wrote about. Our automated system will go through and "batch" on due dates. Either we received the minimum monthly payment, or we did not. If you send $34.99, our system will not recognize it as 35.00 and you will be assessed the fee. That is where the human element comes in. If a customer calls in, whether they are routed to India, Manila, or here to Austin, we will review the account. As long as the customer has a good history with us and it appears an honest mistake we refund the fee without question. We are consumers too and all realize a mistake will happen. That is why we would not penalize a customer in that situation. As far as our outsourcing, what can be said? Sure, it is hard to understand some representatives' accents. (In my job, I talk to them all day. Some you cannot tell they aren't in the States.) Yet, customers seem to like the lower prices they allow. I make between 6-10 times what someone in India would per hour. If all of our reps were stateside, we would have to: 1) charge you more to make profits and stay in business and appease the shareholders, 2) have less representatives and therefore much longer hold times for even simple questions which results in 3) lower quality service for our consumers. Dell Financial (keep in mind we are separate from Dell) has a policy that if the customer wants to speak to someone in Austin they can. Yes, they will put you on hold. You will be on hold for a while as all escalation calls go to a supervisor and there are very few to take those calls. Yet, you will get to speak to someone in Austin about your concern. So I do not understand why you are so angry? I have worked for several companies in a customer service capacity and very few have ever taken customer experience so personally. In fact, most companies would have told their customer to pay their full bill next time and not waived the fee. Cheers!
Thomas
Troy,#28Consumer Comment
Wed, March 22, 2006
the people who responded to my complaint, must all be dell employees. Anyway, who asked for their opinions.
Thomas
Troy,#29Consumer Comment
Wed, March 22, 2006
the people who responded to my complaint, must all be dell employees. Anyway, who asked for their opinions.
Thomas
Troy,#30Consumer Comment
Wed, March 22, 2006
the people who responded to my complaint, must all be dell employees. Anyway, who asked for their opinions.
Robert
Jacksonville,#31Consumer Comment
Wed, March 22, 2006
That idiotic "customer is always right" nonsense was started by Gordon Sefridge. He founded his own chain of stores. He died penniless. Get it?
Christine
Racine,#32Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 22, 2006
Except when they're wrong.
Thomas
Troy,#33Author of original report
Wed, March 22, 2006
I know that dell out sources and that puts people in this country out of a job just to save a few bucks. Even if i was a dollar short on that payment, you don't charge a late charge. You inform that person that the payment was a dollar short. I have spent alot of money with Dell over the years, and what is the old saying, "the customer is always right"
Tess
Austin,#34UPDATE Employee
Tue, March 21, 2006
Thomas, I admit, I am baffled as to why you are upset. You stated that you made a mistake and paid a short payment. Any payment less than your minimum monthly payment is not considered a full payment. Yet, when you called the person you spoke to was polite and, as a courtsey, waived the late fee despite the fact that the mistake was not that of the company. Why are you upset? That is excellent customer service. Yes, Dell and Dell Financial both outsource. Most large companies do to keep their prices down. They can get workers who are just as, if not more skilled, than they can get here for less money. Then, they charge you- the consumer- less. Dell Financial has a company policy that anytime a customer wants to speak to an American rep (we are in Austin, Texas) all they need do is ask. Our reps in India or Manilla are trained to put the customer on hold and transfer. It might mean a hold time for the customer, but it is a service offered. So how is this a ripoff, and not an honest mistake by the customer and fee graciously waived by the company for a good customer? Warmest Regards,