Ambrocio
Lenoir,#2REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, August 08, 2007
I see on one of your sites that you are begging for a place to stay with a refrigerator, stove, food, living room, and everything you need for youself, but you are saying it's for a ministry. What's going on with your home? Your job? You want to work with the druggies and the addicts, but you're a "narc", building people up for friendship and partnership, then tattling and trying to get money for what you think you "know" on them. NARC, NARC, NARC Will anyone want to work with you if they know this? You backstab everyone so you can profit. (((ROR removed because of security purposes))) CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#3REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, August 06, 2007
You know when to quit, but you can't quit now. Benito and I both have found out that you abuse minorities. You think being raped and sodimized is something you'll enjoy? Probably. An my former attorney, Harold Phelan once told me, when people are desperate for money they will try anything. He's the judge in your area now! Yes, I have connections and the NAACP is one of them. They will help me, Benito and your partner Frank as you have not gotten along with him either. To you everyone is a theif, a liar, and someone who dishonors you. *&*&, you're one of the greediest things I've ever seen. I have the tickets from the PO, no I should say my attorney has them to prove that I sent everything I said I would. You want to file them and collect even more than you have coming to you. You scan, flam, and pretend to be something you aren't. No wonder Frank locks you out of your place of work. No wonder he wants to get rid of the confusion you people cause. You're nothing but West Texas heathens desperate for money or anything else you can get your hand on. Now you're going to pay and pay dearly for the names you have called me and my husband. You can't prove anything against us because we have no record or even suspicions of being thieves or liars. You're going to be dragged through the national news for the things you have said about us, including Frank, too.
Colene
Littlefield,#4Author of original report
Sat, August 04, 2007
"The point at hand is that you/he/she/it whatever you are claims everyone is a liar, thief, and a cheat Why don't you just shut up! I don't own you anything because I sent what I do owe you. The point at hand is that Wayne/he/she/it calls everyone a liar, cheat and a thief. Right off the bat when I told him that I didn't want his teakwood and brass he started calling that trade partner the same names he's calling me, Frank, and everyone else he deals with. You talk about honor, credibility, credentials, certifications and all that. He's an alcoholic and drug abuser that says he has quit. Maybe the drugs and alcohol he did quit, but this started right around the 4th July holidays when he went on this binge of abusing people. He's an abuser that can't build relationships in business or even as a friend. I was good to him and tried to help him in every what that I could, then wham he starts causing me trouble on the site. He had done the same to others. He didn't get this or that. People sent him things again over and over to make peace. He either doesn't know what he's doing because he's so fried or else he's needing the money to support a habit, whatever that might be. He got kicked off the trade site because he people and the rules of the site, too. Your partner and others need to know how they are being talked about on the net by their 'partners'. In doing this you breached the contract of partnership. While that man works someone is out spreading filth about him. Actually biting the hand that feeds him. Whether or not the drinking and drugs have stopped, the abuse goes on to hurt other people just because he feels neglected when someone does business with someone else or when someone doesn't have time to respond to all the emails that floods the inbox everyday. Again, I don't owe you anything and if I do prove that you didn't get it. Better yet, get off you pity pot and come down to Earth by realizing you can't control everyone else by calling them liars and thieves. You do that to everyone you come in contact with. Either something is wrong that is all that you attract in the human race or else you imagine things or can't keep up with your business. I know that you can't because you billed me for things that had already been paid for. So get real." Why can't you stick to what is being asked here. You keep going off to left field so to speak. You talk about honor. If I were you I wouldn't be using that term, as it does not apply to you. If you have any honor what so ever, you would either send me copies of the so called tickets that you have stating that you mailed the jewerly and the insurance receipts so that I can track them down, or just tell the truth, as hard as it may be for you to do and say that you never mailed them. I think are NUTS!!!! You know I am so tired of talking to you and getting filled with nothing but lies. You know what! YOu have Won. Yes, I am just gonna forget that you OWE US THE JEWERLY, because I am sick and tired of dealing with the likes of you. Your crooked in my book, and believe me if anyone else asks me about buying anything from you, well I guess I will just have to tell them, that the jewerly was ok, but the likes of you, well lets just say that I would rather be snake bitten, throwing into the pits of hell than trade with you. But, rest assured in the end of days when you have to come before the throne of GOD, you will be judged just like everyone else. God says in the Bible, "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You", not your way do unto others before they get you. I will pray for your soul, because thats the only part that leaves this world, your body turns to dirt, but then I'm not so sure about somepeople in this world, I think that satans already got yours. You manipulated, lied, cheated and still am, but I don't give a HOOT! You just keep on a keeping on, cause I am done with you and yours. Keep it all as you have done, cause I would rather be raped, somemized and live as a bag lady for the rest of my life, than have to deal with you one more day.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#5REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, August 04, 2007
Why don't you just shut up! I don't own you anything because I sent what I do owe you. The point at hand is that Wayne/he/she/it calls everyone a liar, cheat and a thief. Right off the bat when I told him that I didn't want his teakwood and brass he started calling that trade partner the same names he's calling me, Frank, and everyone else he deals with. You talk about honor, credibility, credentials, certifications and all that. He's an alcoholic and drug abuser that says he has quit. Maybe the drugs and alcohol he did quit, but this started right around the 4th July holidays when he went on this binge of abusing people. He's an abuser that can't build relationships in business or even as a friend. I was good to him and tried to help him in every what that I could, then wham he starts causing me trouble on the site. He had done the same to others. He didn't get this or that. People sent him things again over and over to make peace. He either doesn't know what he's doing because he's so fried or else he's needing the money to support a habit, whatever that might be. He got kicked off the trade site because he manipulated people and the rules of the site, too. Your partner and others need to know how they are being talked about on the net by their "partners". In doing this you breached the contract of partnership. While that man works someone is out spreading filth about him. Actually biting the hand that feeds him. Whether or not the drinking and drugs have stopped, the abuse goes on to hurt other people just because he feels neglected when someone does business with someone else or when someone doesn't have time to respond to all the emails that floods the inbox everyday. Again, I don't owe you anything and if I do prove that you didn't get it. Better yet, get off you pity pot and come down to Earth by realizing you can't control everyone else by calling them liars and thieves. You do that to everyone you come in contact with. Either something is wrong that is all that you attract in the human race or else you imagine things or can't keep up with your business. I know that you can't because you billed me for things that had already been paid for. So get real.
Colene
Littlefield,#6Author of original report
Sun, July 29, 2007
My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks You might want to reread this article, that you took from one of his post. "WALK IN HONOR", WITHOUT TOTAL HONESTY ON ALL OF our parts, we are nothing but what is said here. We sent you everything that was swapped with you for, yet you have dishonored us by not following up with your part of the swap. Before you point the finger at someone else, take a good look inthe mirror at yourself.
Colene
Littlefield,#7Author of original report
Sun, July 29, 2007
He does have them, but that's not the issure here. Your getting your foot stuck in another door altogether. His credensials or yours in not the issue here. Stick to the subject on hand, if you can.
Colene
Littlefield,#8Author of original report
Sun, July 29, 2007
We don't owe you for the six (6) knives. You took off $300.00 in value with what we traded you for in your jewerly. We are just waiting for the other 2 boxes that you mailed, but the post office has sent them too tin buck too. Check with them to find out where they are, if not then send me the information so that I can find out, but do something, other than make all these accusations. All we want are the two boxes that you mailed to us, thats all. By the way he does have credensials. That has nothing to do with the jewerly that you owe us. Plain and simple. Do the right thing check with the post office or send us the information so that I can check with them. How hard is that for you too do?
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#9REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, July 29, 2007
Maybe I should file a ripoff report against getrealwithgod and his counseling service and minstry. I don' want anymore of your junk, but you do owe me for what you took for the six knives. And you have the jewelry you got from me on the internet for sale on some websites. I have printed them out.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#10REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, July 29, 2007
Yes, I have a 503C for working with many things. Where are you ordained as a minister? Where are you licensed to be a couselor? You acknowledged receiving 2 packages and that was all that was due everything was in there. You play this game of not getting this or that and use the minister act to make people have confidence in you.
Colene
Littlefield,#11Author of original report
Sat, July 28, 2007
You asked why I filed against you on this situation. Ok, I'll tell you why. You ripped me of 6 knives. My husband told you that he was mistaken on the quanity of knives that he had and that he sent you all that he had, he also told you too take $300.00 off of the jewerly that you were to send us to pay for the mistake on the knives. You agreed to that, not you telling me that you didn, when we did receive the jewerly for that swap, we didnt receive all because you took off the amount up to $300.00, for the lack of knives. My, my, how soon we forget. So you want more knives, then I suggest that you go where you claim we got the knives from ( dollar store) is what you said we got them from. Get real! Old Timers, Bucks, Queen Steel, can not be found at the dollar store. If you find them there, then you are not buying them, but some imitation. Get real. Ask your attorneys to go buy Old Timers, Bucks and Queen Steel at the dollar store, to see if they can find them there. Give me a break.
Colene
Littlefield,#12Author of original report
Sat, July 28, 2007
1. Turquoise Necklace June 26, 2007 Posted 2. Agate Necklace June 27, 2007 Posted 3. Hand beaded American Native Necklace Posted June 27th. 4. Hematite bracklet Posted June 27th. 5. Southwestern Oil Painting Posted June 26 6. Native American Painting, June 26 7. Southernwester Post June 26 8. Titanium Band June 18 9. Fun Gypsy Bracklet June 21 10. Blue Sparkle Bracket June 25 11. Genuine Coral Bracket June 26 12. Agaet Pin on a Chain June 25 13. Orange Coral Necklace June 26 14. Coral Necklace June 26 15. Turquoise n Heishi Necklace June 26 16. New hand made bracelet June 26 17. New Gem Stone Bracelet June 26 18. Guademalean Throw June 26 This is what were suppose to get, since you mailed them out, either the post office has lost them or they were delivered to someone else. Have the post off trace the packages to find out where they went. Your other web sites I do believe you are asking people to purchases some hats for kittens to pay for their up keep. Strays I do believe that you keep. I am sorry, I didn't realize that you had a license to keep animals like a boarding house or a kennel. I apolize for that. I didn't know that you were in that sort of business, I just knew about the jewerly that you make and the aprons that you make, and the hats and paintings that you either make or get some from the indian nation. But you do have about that many websites, where you either sell jewerly or hats or something from which you do either make, you even ask for medical supplies for like a care giver to others for medical supplies that they need.
Colene
Littlefield,#13Author of original report
Sat, July 28, 2007
Then I suggest that you file a missing report with the post office, as we have yet to receive the 3 packages that you mailed to us. We did received some sort of a package with a small rug or mat, or what ever you call it and 2 pictures, thats it. That's all that we have received from you since the last swap on June 26th. All that I have asked of you is for you too either check with the post office as to the where abouts of the packages that you said that you sent, if not, then send me copies of the insurance and copies of the cost of mailing them, so that I can track them down to find out where they were taken. You won't even do that. So you tell me why I am saying that you have not sent them, when you won't even co-operate as to their where abouts. I do believe that's calling the kettle black so to speak. Either do one thing or the other, but do something, an if you do get your packages back, then send us back what you call junk to us. But do something! Your whinning to everyone about something that is so simple to handle, that its a shame that you and I can't do this and get it straight. Stick to the subject on hand, if you can do this, if not then go ahead a get an attorney as my attorney is ready to file. But I don't want to bring attorneys into this as it should be between you and me. Just check at the post office to have them check as to where the packages are, or send me the stuff I need to find out where they are. Is that so hard for you too do? Plain an simple, but you don't want to do things that are so simple, you drag everyone into this whether its simple trying to make things so hard for you and for me. Just to the right thing and let it go. If you can't go to the post office, then send me papers to me and I will find out where they have been dropped off. If you can't do this, then forget it, forget me and I certainly will forget you. If you have the guts to go to the post office and have them to do the checking out where the packages are, then do it, but get off the pity party part. Its not becoming to you. I am so tired of you telling me this and that, not doing the right thing, getting an attorney, fine, lets go too court, then present all that you did by sending all the packages to us, show where they went, who got them and then lets see where the kettle is called.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#14REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, July 28, 2007
You asked why I filed against you on this situation. Ok, I'll tell you why. You ripped me of 6 knives and didn't even actually acknowledge it. I just got a sort of Oh well, I don't have anymore. What did I do with the jewelry? I sent it to you along in the last 2 packages that I sent. It would not all go in one box. On occassions Wayne has listed jewelry store jade and gotten enormous value trades in which he sent the others little junk pieces of jade. And on occassions he has pulled this "I didn't get this or that" in which people feeling sorry for him because of his past of drug and alcohol abuse in which he's recovering, sent him something else to make up to him even though they knew they had sent his items. He state or as you'd call it cries all the time about the pain he is in and how he goes off on people and can't get along with anyone. I was really nice to both of you people in trying to build a relationship. I make the jewelry. I an not Navajo. We did however send a few pictures and pieces of jewelry that were Navajo made and we specifically listed them as such. Wayne doesn't get things straight. He asks to much for his things and he wants everything postage free even though the boxes of things were expensive and timely to ship, we did ship them in trying to be nice people. I see on his site that he had a 51 year old wife pregnant for the first time and yada yada yada. I see all sorts of situations he talks about like with your business partner. Everyone but him is bad or wrong or a liar and a thief. Now I'm calling his hand in proving all of this to a judge because when people are nice to him he hurts them. When someone does something for him he wants more and more attention and then gets mad no matter what you do because it's his time to blow up and show his evil nature because he's just full of it. I'm not going to be treated that way by anyone, especially someone with his past reputation of abuse of alcohol and drugs which he talks about like they are a badge of courage in themselves. I don't have to take this from anyone trying to bully me into more and more above and beyond what I owe them and have paid for. I have reported this issue with him always claiming this or that against the other people, too, to the post master. The people at my post office remember us mailing the packages and they have records too. Now you prove all that you have said against me, your partner, the other people on the site, and anyone else that the postal authorities are checking to see if other's have complaints about the way they have been treated.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#15REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, July 28, 2007
Gail Ambrocio 1038 Stagecoach Trail Lenoir, NC 28645 828 728 7524 I did certainly mention in our phone conversation and to Wayne that my husband is Ottomi and the he makes the jewelry for a Chief of a Shawnee Tribe of which he and I both are members. You don't listen or seem to understand. I do have receipts which I have faxed to my attorneys in Durhan, NC. They will be handling this situation and the defamation of character and harassment charges against both you and Wayne in which you state that I have about 40 websites asking and taking anything from anyone. You people don't seem to get along with anyone. Other people on the site will probably be filing, too for things Wayne claims he never got in which they know that they sent. This is not a game with us as it seems to be with you people.
Colene
Littlefield,#16Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
I think you have gotten off the beaten path so too speak. This report was reported due to the lack of jewerly that was suppose to be sent here. You have gotten into religion and whatever else you have said. This is about neither of them. So stick to the facts. You said you sent the jewerly 2 weeks after the date posted, which was on June 18th and June 26. Yet the only package received was stamped by the Post Office of the United States of America on July 13th, 2007. You also state that you have receipts on these packages, if so then send me copies so that I may verify that fact and also to check with the Post Office, as to there whereabouts. Plain and simple, yet you go off the deep end with everything else. YOur religion is your business, just as mine is mine. Keep it simple and get on with whats at hand. If you cannot send me copies of the receipts that you have for the insurance and the shipping of these 3 packages, then I will know as with ripoff will know that you have not told the truth in this matter. If and when I do receive these papers, then I will tell ripoff report that I have received them and make them a copy for their records and if not then I will go forward with what I have to do. Colene
Colene
Littlefield,#17Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
You knew that they wouldn't be coming from the hardware store, so why bring it into this. You think what you want, but I Colene filed the complaint because you did not live up to your end of the bargain. YOu talk and rant about him not having honor, sorry but Ithink your the one without honor. You said that you mailed them, but you didn't, you said that you mailed 3 packages, yet we have only received one, of which was not what we swapped for. We swapped for jewerly, we have yet to receive this. Oh, yes by the way you never said that your husband was from the Otto or what ever you call it, you said plain and simple Navajo and Shawnee tribes. That I remember plainly.
Colene
Littlefield,#18Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
"My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks." I am Colene, wife of the man that you posted the above on. I filed this complaint against you, because the last package that we received from you, and you told swapathome, that you had mailed 2 packages some 2 weeks ago and then another one the week after that. That would have put them mailed around the 25 of June and one the first week in July. So tell me why is it that we received one package stamped July 13th, and nothing more? In your statement from above what my husband posted, you condemn him for saying "Without total honesty on our part, we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God." Your honesty is apart of that as is ours. You have not been honest with us in sending the packages to us. YOu have lied about that. WHY? Is it because you have already sold those particles to someone else? You also stated that you have insurance that you sent those 3 packages to us, If so, then send me a copy of those insurance packages that you sent to us along with copies showing that you mailed them. Why go into length about something else, all we want are our packages of merchandise that you were suppose to have sent us. Nothing more. Yet you bring about everything else that has nothing to do with this. What is your problem? Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf so many times, that when he did see the wolf no one belived him? Just send the packages or the proof, why is that so hard for you to do? If you have the proof, then when I get the proof, I will go forward with trying to find out where they went, if not, then gosh, why can't you be honorable to send what we swapped for. Nothing else should be discussed here except the packages. Oh, by the way christian should not be capalized, only GOD.
Colene
Littlefield,#19Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
"My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks." I am Colene, wife of the man that you posted the above on. I filed this complaint against you, because the last package that we received from you, and you told swapathome, that you had mailed 2 packages some 2 weeks ago and then another one the week after that. That would have put them mailed around the 25 of June and one the first week in July. So tell me why is it that we received one package stamped July 13th, and nothing more? In your statement from above what my husband posted, you condemn him for saying "Without total honesty on our part, we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God." Your honesty is apart of that as is ours. You have not been honest with us in sending the packages to us. YOu have lied about that. WHY? Is it because you have already sold those particles to someone else? You also stated that you have insurance that you sent those 3 packages to us, If so, then send me a copy of those insurance packages that you sent to us along with copies showing that you mailed them. Why go into length about something else, all we want are our packages of merchandise that you were suppose to have sent us. Nothing more. Yet you bring about everything else that has nothing to do with this. What is your problem? Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf so many times, that when he did see the wolf no one belived him? Just send the packages or the proof, why is that so hard for you to do? If you have the proof, then when I get the proof, I will go forward with trying to find out where they went, if not, then gosh, why can't you be honorable to send what we swapped for. Nothing else should be discussed here except the packages. Oh, by the way christian should not be capalized, only GOD.
Colene
Littlefield,#20Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
"My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks." I am Colene, wife of the man that you posted the above on. I filed this complaint against you, because the last package that we received from you, and you told swapathome, that you had mailed 2 packages some 2 weeks ago and then another one the week after that. That would have put them mailed around the 25 of June and one the first week in July. So tell me why is it that we received one package stamped July 13th, and nothing more? In your statement from above what my husband posted, you condemn him for saying "Without total honesty on our part, we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God." Your honesty is apart of that as is ours. You have not been honest with us in sending the packages to us. YOu have lied about that. WHY? Is it because you have already sold those particles to someone else? You also stated that you have insurance that you sent those 3 packages to us, If so, then send me a copy of those insurance packages that you sent to us along with copies showing that you mailed them. Why go into length about something else, all we want are our packages of merchandise that you were suppose to have sent us. Nothing more. Yet you bring about everything else that has nothing to do with this. What is your problem? Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf so many times, that when he did see the wolf no one belived him? Just send the packages or the proof, why is that so hard for you to do? If you have the proof, then when I get the proof, I will go forward with trying to find out where they went, if not, then gosh, why can't you be honorable to send what we swapped for. Nothing else should be discussed here except the packages. Oh, by the way christian should not be capalized, only GOD.
Colene
Littlefield,#21Author of original report
Mon, July 23, 2007
"My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks." I am Colene, wife of the man that you posted the above on. I filed this complaint against you, because the last package that we received from you, and you told swapathome, that you had mailed 2 packages some 2 weeks ago and then another one the week after that. That would have put them mailed around the 25 of June and one the first week in July. So tell me why is it that we received one package stamped July 13th, and nothing more? In your statement from above what my husband posted, you condemn him for saying "Without total honesty on our part, we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God." Your honesty is apart of that as is ours. You have not been honest with us in sending the packages to us. YOu have lied about that. WHY? Is it because you have already sold those particles to someone else? You also stated that you have insurance that you sent those 3 packages to us, If so, then send me a copy of those insurance packages that you sent to us along with copies showing that you mailed them. Why go into length about something else, all we want are our packages of merchandise that you were suppose to have sent us. Nothing more. Yet you bring about everything else that has nothing to do with this. What is your problem? Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf so many times, that when he did see the wolf no one belived him? Just send the packages or the proof, why is that so hard for you to do? If you have the proof, then when I get the proof, I will go forward with trying to find out where they went, if not, then gosh, why can't you be honorable to send what we swapped for. Nothing else should be discussed here except the packages. Oh, by the way christian should not be capalized, only GOD.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#22REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, July 23, 2007
The things I got from swap site were what I bid on that I wanted. You did short me 6 knives. You sent several boxes of junk that I didn't want. These things you sent without us buying or you putting them on the site. And we told you we didn't want cheap tools, only name brand. However, we did sent you merchandise to cover, more than cover the cost. I'm not sorry for anything I said to you, but I am sorry that I ever did business with you. You are always so pitiful, crying about Viet Nam, crying about being done wrong, this one and that one is a liar or did this or that to you. You cry about being a recovering alcoholic and doing drugs when you were young. I wanted you to succeed by breaking out of that mold of down and out but you aren't going to because of your attitude. You complain about the business partner, also, a minister. Christian is in capital letters and I didn't ever say I was of any particular faith. It isn't your business what I believe or how I worship. But the Bible says not to judge, lest you be judged. You sure do a number of trying to act like you are God. And by the way God is capatilized, too. Now you want to you one on one. Prove I didn't send your things. Prove the business partner is also a liar and a thief, prove that this one and that one on this site and that site cheated you. And tell us all why your club on IOffer has had all the memebers as not being on that site anymore. Did all of them cheat you, too, so you could try to ban them from that site? Or were they all you trying to play some hoax?
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#23REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, July 22, 2007
This report is from Gail Ambrocio 1038 Stagecoach Trail Lenoir, NC 28645 I still do not believe that Colene has lodged this complain as this sounds more like the rantings and ravings of Wayne Freeman who has numerous websites about his being a minister in need. While dealing with Colene I was told that they had a hardware store in Littlefield, Texas, and that they had tools for trade or sale. I asked the brand name due to my husband being pretty particular about wanting tools that last, not Dollar Store type items which can be bought cheaply. Mr. --- didn't seem to know the brand names and when we called him to tell him not to send them until we knew what they were they were already sent to our address unsolicited. Later I ran across a listing of Mr. ---'s about his Colene's business partner which is about the same as what he is saying about me. getrealwithgod PROFILE GALLERY BLOGS GUESTBOOK FRIENDS FAVORITES VIEWING 1 - 7 OUT OF 7 BLOGS. Honor among believers DATE: 06/15/2007 00:08:40 / MOOD: other Nifty Hardware, Littlefield, Texas My wife's business partner is a Word Of Faith minister; but the man is a liar & a thief. That shouldn't be folks. Believers are supposed to be different from the world. They are supposed to be men & women of honor. Without total honesty on our part we will never get anywhere in the kingdom of God. God doesn't require much more than a willing heart from a man or woman; but He does require honor from us; not only to honor & respect Him, but to be honorable & respectable ourselves. I would rather be ripped off than to not trust a believer. I can take the loss of worldly goods; but I can't take closing up my heart to other believers because I can't trust them. I try to deal honestly with all men & women, & I expect that from them. Walk in honor folks View Entry
Colene
Littlefield,#24Consumer Comment
Sat, July 21, 2007
Well, well seems like your very cozy with swapathome. IK wonder what that suggest? If I had wanted to call you, which believe me that would be the farthest thing from my mind. Your not worth the nickle. Thought you might like to read some of the information that she sent me regarding the swapping and the language that she uses. Oh, yes, by the way who wrote the above for you too type, cause the languages are completely different. Go get a real life. It has only been two weeks. You have two large boxes enroute to you. One should have arrived. You lied to me because you sent a bunch of junk I didn't ask for and your shorted me 6 knives. I have insurance on all the packages that I have sent to you because you, Wayne, not CoCoMo have not acted right since the beginning. You claim you don't get stuff that people send to you, you argue and want more and more in exchange for stuff you don't want, and not only that stuff I don't want either that you send up here. At the beginning I told you that I would send bracelets to pay for those movies. I sent you a generous plenty. I want no more business with you. You act crazy to get attention and I have not attention for you. I have better things to do and better customers that are satisfied with what I sent to them. Funny part about the above, first you say that we sent you stuff that you didn't want, and the next line is we shorted you 6 knives. If you didn't want the merchandise, why are you complaining about us shorting you knives. Very confusing. First you don't want it, then your satisified with it and complain that she shorted you something. WHich is it? Try talking with a little sense. It might help. So you say its only been two weeks, how come the package that we got was mailed on July 13th, if it had only been two weeks, that would have made it around the last weeks of June, not 2 weeks after that an another 2 weeks into July. You hiprocritical transvestite, you call me a liar, you will prove that. I sent your items and the right items. You've told others on this site that things were missing from your orders. You play games. You need an exorcism to get the demons from your mind rather than twisting up some imagined version of the Bible which you take in vain. You are an a*****e from the beginning on in trying to set up a con. Your methods are straight out to TDC in the religious conversion, the alcoholic bs, and then trying to build trust and brainwash others with a false religion that you make up. Call me a liar all you want, but you maked them as received and I sent them. You may ask God to forgive you, but don't ask me to. I want no more to do with you in any way. Don't trade on my things, don't email me, stop calling me and forget we ever met. Such, names to call someone, when you say your a christian. What language! Shocking, absolutely shocking. I forgot the day we met the day you called us. I even remember returning your call, as we weren't at home, but saw it on the phone. So I was the courteous one to return your call and you said that since you don't have to pay the phone bill there where you live, that you would call me back and I have to pay phone bills and you get it free. So you called me back, you sounded like such a sweet person. Who knows you may be. We haven't called you since that day, why lie about that? I dont' email you, cause there are too many to choose from, trade on your things, you have got to be kidding. Not me! Last but not least, I think is the best: Let God help you. Maybe this is God's will for you to see how it feels to be at the mercy of some jerk who uses you . " Some jerk that uses you." My, my, my. I do believe that the shoe is on the other foot! Remember you said it. You use people to get what you want and when you think that its not exactly as you think it should be, then you use what ever means that you can use. Mercy, I don't think so. Have a great day!
Colene
Littlefield,#25Author of original report
Fri, July 20, 2007
1. Turquoise Necklace June 26, 2007 Posted 2. Agate Necklace June 27, 2007 Posted 3. Hand beaded American Native Necklace Posted June 27th. 4. Hematite bracklet Posted June 27th. 5. Southwestern Oil Painting Posted June 26 6. Native American Painting, June 26 7. Southernwester Post June 26 8. Titanium Band June 18 9. Fun Gypsy Bracklet June 21 10. Blue Sparkle Bracket June 25 11. Genuine Coral Bracket June 26 12. Agaet Pin on a Chain June 25 13. Orange Coral Necklace June 26 14. Coral Necklace June 26 15. Turquoise n Heishi Necklace June 26 16. New hand made bracelet June 26 17. New Gem Stone Bracelet June 26 18. Guademalean Throw June 26 I brought it all out right, I went ahead and posted that he got them, so that she could receive her coupons and shipping money. She told me that she was going to put them in the mail the next day, but as you can see, she has told me that she had shipped them, but then again she tells me that she hadn't. I am tired of dealing with her and her lies. You take it from here. CoCoMo This is what I sent to swapathome, this is what we traded her far. She cries that what we sent her a junk, but that is what was listed at swapathome. He saw it, and she wanted it. We have sent here everthing that she wanted to swap with her on, yet she has failed to send us what we traded her with. We sent her packages within a couple of days, yet when she was suppose to send us the above, she tells us it was sent, or will be sent or that she has sent in 2 weeks ago. Must have gone by tin buck too to get here. This has been since June 18 or June 26, I don't know of any mail that thats 3-4 weeks to come from North Carolina to Texas. What you saw, is what you wanted, all I am asking is that you send us what we are suppose to get, not something else that you might have in mind. We never got the jelly opal, cause you never sent it. You may have gotten swapathome by the shirt tails, but you don't have me. If you can't get the names straight, then at least have the courtsey to not talk about anyones names.
Colene
Littlefield,#26Author of original report
Fri, July 20, 2007
We received one box yesterday, that contained some sort of throw, yet it wasn't a throw at all, 2 small pictures. That's it. She said that she mailed these 2 weeks ago, yet it was post marked on 7-13-07. What a lier and what a theif she and her husband are. She and her husband still owe us the jewerly, yet she lied and is still lying about that as well. If you type in her name in search, you will find about 50 or more sites that she is using to get anything from anyone. People say, money is cheap, its not the money honey, its the person behind the money that is the cheap one. Only thing is she says that she has no money, what a crock. Just wanted all of you too know, that what she sent us was a lie and she's still lying.
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#27REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, July 20, 2007
Gail Ambrocio, Lenoir, NC 828 728 7524 Carbon copies sent to the Mexican Embassy, too, for harassment charges, slander, and stalking. Dear Gail, There is really no need to refund him any points, because the swaps are finalized. We have send him an email in regards to that and did close the file. No worries from our end we certainly hope that he will not contact you again. Happy Swapping Your Swap at Home Team www.swapathome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Ambrocio To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: RE: Complaint from realwithgod
Ambrocio
Lenoir,#28REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, July 20, 2007
I am a member of a barter group where we exchange items we can live without for items we need. I am fairly new to the site and doing pretty well. Wayne Freeman, a man who is on disability often uses this site under the name of CoCoMo or Colene Freeman. He also uses the name Joseph. He got several of my items from the site, then emailed me asking me to trade with him off the site. Due to record keeping and not knowing him I hesitated to do so. He stated that it would take a couple of weeks to get credit for the things I had sent to other people and if I would like something he had to please let him know, he would trade off site. I mentioned a hard drive and a modem, if they were in working order. Wayne then told me he often sent boxes of things to people whether he knew them or not and the would send him back stuff they didn't want. I told him I didn't think that was a fair way to work for him or me that people should trade equally. Wayne compulsively emailed me telling me of his problems in the past with VietNam and I suggested that he, I, and my husband talk, when Wayne started talking about me moving to Texas. My husband and I called him but he would not answer the phone. We tried again and a woman named Colene answered and put Wayne on the phone, but he didn't want to talk to my husband about some tools he was trying to sell. We have a lot of tools, but would possibly buy more, but only if they were want we wanted or needed. However, Wayne had just packed three boxes full of odds and ends, mostly Dollar Store quality that can be bought cheaply. They are not tools for everyday use because they are weak and don't hold up well. And he sent a box of computer stuff, mostly outdated memory. This is stuff we certainly don't need and neither does anyone else. He also sent a teakwood bowl and little bowls which I can find a dozen times over any Saturday at a yardsale for $5 or less. I explained this to him when he started wanting me to pay him $50 for the set. I had specifically emailed him not to send that up here or the tools unless he could converse with my husband about the brand name and specific items. I did sent Southwestern style jewelry to Wayne, explaining to him that it was not Navajo jewelry like in his area because we do not have a BIA card from the Navajo tribe. I am a member of the Shawnee and my husband is a member of the Otomi. We explained to Wayne that if he resold the jewelry that he should list it as Southwestern and could mention that Benito and I made the jewelry and are members of the Otomi and Shawnee Tribes. However, he persist to sell the jewelry on his sites as Indian jewelry or Native American jewelry rather than Southwestern style. This was irritating to me that he did not give consideration to the conversations we had with him. He just didn't listen. He sent old movies and some off brand dvds that were in Spanish. I sent jewelry to him for that and was very generous. My brother was here looking at the swap site where Wayne had listed knives. I bought the knives from Wayne off the site paying him with trade points from the site. Wayne asked me to go ahead and mark the items as received so that he could get his postage money and his trade points right then. I did so although I had some misgivings as to how to keep up with all this because he had trouble listening and remembering things in business. When my order for the knives came it was 6 knives short and an older knife he had charged a foutune for was worthless. The knives were overprices. Wayne had also sent a leather vest here for $50. I found the same vest in the BudK Catalogue for $19.95, so that taught me that he simply didn't do business in a way we wanted to do business. He got things from the auction site, but was pretty upset with me for not wanting him to send stuff up here dumping on me, then trying to break me down to either pay him or send him things he could sell. I finally told him we would settle up and mailed the last two packages to him at his post office box. He emailed over and over with the most twisted garbled up mess I have ever heard about religion. It was very disturbing. I finally told him that his way of doing business was not the way we wanted to work. He again wanted to trade off site and I told him no. That I do sell things, but require a deposit for the materials and then the balance, at which time I ship the items. He said he would pay via money order, which I really don't want because so many of them are fake. I suggested Pay Pal, but he said he didn't use that anymore. On one occassion he said that he didn't get a jelly opal which I knew that I sent. It wasn't a big deal, but I did send him another opal, since I had sent the other one and it was the last jelly opal, I sent a very nice expensive Bolder Opal, which he never even thanked me for. After I told him no more just shipping junk to me expecting me to trade or pay him, he began to complain to the swap site that his orders were short. I got in touch with the owner of the site and told them to give Wayne back any points due for what he claimed that he didn't get. That I would take one more loss to get rid of him. He wanted his orders faster than the mail could deliver. One email he would say take my time in settling up so he could get new things I was making, then he would want to know what packages he had coming and when they were going to get there. The owner of the swap site was upset at Wayne for wanting to deal off the site and in him sending stuff that I didn't ask him to send. He stated that Wayne had marked all the items he bought from the site with the highest ratings and did not show any problem until I refused to deal with him offsite. I am very interested in having an attorney to represent me in slander, harassment, and other issues that might arise with Mr./Ms. Freeman, whoever this person turns out to be. I feel this is a serious issue as far as my reputation and that this person is a dangerous and malicious person.