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Complaint Review: Global Internetworks -Thebestonlinesystem.com -The Proven Formula Team -James Kenney -Bill Debrason - Internet
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Global Internetworks -Thebestonlinesystem.com -The Proven Formula Team -James Kenney -Bill Debrason
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Global Internetworks - Thebestonlinesystem.com - The Proven Formula Team - Nuskin - Photomax - Pharmanex - Nourish The Children Using your monies to fill their own pockets by stacking of reps without your knowledge Provo Utah
I am a distributor with Nuskin. I was recruited by a member of "The Proven Formula Team" which controls the www.bestonlinesystem.com, globalinternetworks.com and the GIN office and their CRAPPY leads.
After doing research on my own finaces, i.e., charges to my credit card, I have exposed a myriad of "rip-offs" by this ENTIRE "team"!!! First of all, they are allowed to change the Basic & Fast Start packages offered by Nuskin, itself. What this does is decrease the payout to a new distributor(to the tune almost $200.00 to your disadvantage!!!) and that is ASSUMING that those monies would have been directed to you to begin with.
Secondly, when you Fast Start, they manipulate your Nourish the Children "donations"(of which you have no decision in that matter) to people OUTSIDE of your OWN circle group without asking for your permission or even letting you know what was done with those $439.90 which were charged to MYcredit card. I am still trying to get a receipt from Nuskin or anyone in this "proven formula team". The only thing proven is that they are thieves and seem to be quite proud of that fact. Also, all of the extra bonuses due you when someone in your circle group has Fast started, those funds mysteriously disappear for they never have shown up in my V&G report for at least one, so far. These funds were used bymy coach.for another group.
The whole GIN Office and proven formula team keep EVERYTHING hidden from you by saying, we are just taking "baby steps" and to give you this or that would just confuse you and just keep doing what you are doing and keep rocking and rolling. Does that sound familiar to any of you out there??? Oh, and the compensation plan from Nuskin is TOO confusing even our Team elites don't understand it??? Yeah, RIGHT!!! They fully understand their principles on how to rip off the newbies coming on board.
Their online training is nothing more that PURE and SIMPLE brainwashing and so much repetition and this entire proven formula team is nothing more than abunch of sycophants. AND LIARS and THIEVES, sorry to be repetitive...BUT. Thier so-called "best-scrubbed leads in the industry" come out smelling and tasting like you know what after all of your hard-earned money to buy them. From what I have been able to ascertain isthis whole messy system is headed up by two people.
Isn't it amazing that when I wanted to contact these two individuals that I was told that they are not allowed to give out THAT information. I have asked a number of times to SEE this from that their leads fill out for a home based business and no one will let me see it. They are a rip-off, too and do not work. MORE money down the drain into their pockets and after over $3,500.00 I am broke. HELP if anybody reads this so we can help each other.
Josephine
Atlanta, Georgia
U.S.A.
After doing research on my own finaces, i.e., charges to my credit card, I have exposed a myriad of "rip-offs" by this ENTIRE "team"!!! First of all, they are allowed to change the Basic & Fast Start packages offered by Nuskin, itself. What this does is decrease the payout to a new distributor(to the tune almost $200.00 to your disadvantage!!!) and that is ASSUMING that those monies would have been directed to you to begin with.
Secondly, when you Fast Start, they manipulate your Nourish the Children "donations"(of which you have no decision in that matter) to people OUTSIDE of your OWN circle group without asking for your permission or even letting you know what was done with those $439.90 which were charged to MYcredit card. I am still trying to get a receipt from Nuskin or anyone in this "proven formula team". The only thing proven is that they are thieves and seem to be quite proud of that fact. Also, all of the extra bonuses due you when someone in your circle group has Fast started, those funds mysteriously disappear for they never have shown up in my V&G report for at least one, so far. These funds were used bymy coach.for another group.
The whole GIN Office and proven formula team keep EVERYTHING hidden from you by saying, we are just taking "baby steps" and to give you this or that would just confuse you and just keep doing what you are doing and keep rocking and rolling. Does that sound familiar to any of you out there??? Oh, and the compensation plan from Nuskin is TOO confusing even our Team elites don't understand it??? Yeah, RIGHT!!! They fully understand their principles on how to rip off the newbies coming on board.
Their online training is nothing more that PURE and SIMPLE brainwashing and so much repetition and this entire proven formula team is nothing more than abunch of sycophants. AND LIARS and THIEVES, sorry to be repetitive...BUT. Thier so-called "best-scrubbed leads in the industry" come out smelling and tasting like you know what after all of your hard-earned money to buy them. From what I have been able to ascertain isthis whole messy system is headed up by two people.
Isn't it amazing that when I wanted to contact these two individuals that I was told that they are not allowed to give out THAT information. I have asked a number of times to SEE this from that their leads fill out for a home based business and no one will let me see it. They are a rip-off, too and do not work. MORE money down the drain into their pockets and after over $3,500.00 I am broke. HELP if anybody reads this so we can help each other.
Josephine
Atlanta, Georgia
U.S.A.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Bill
Crofton,Maryland,
Update on this situation
#2REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, July 18, 2013
Since this report is surfacing on google searches, I feel it prudent to respond.
Subsequent to this report being submitted the following has occurred, 1. I have disassociated myself completely from the proven formula team, the gin system, Jim Kenny, and Tim Edwards. 2. The organizations mention in item 1 are now defunct. 3. The inviduals mentioned in item 1 had their distributorships revoked by the company. 4 I am still contracted with NuSkin and am enjoying a very positive relationship with the company and will continue to do so moving forward as I will not allow myself to be dupped into violating any of the companies policies and procedures as per our contract.
I hold integrity as a high calling and do everything within my power to hold myself to the highest standards. I am proud of my association with NuSkin, in part, due to their comittment in this area as well. I was never in agreement with the operating processes involved with te proven formula or gin systems, however, i was involved and left myself vunerable to being manipulated by them. This is a mistake that I sincerely regret, as it caused my business to be seriously impaired and put me in a serious recovery mode of operation for quite some time. More importantly though, I sincerely regret the results of their actions as pertains to those that were on our team. I truely care for each and everyone of those indivduals and regret the disillusionment that they encountered as a result of a small group of unethical individuals.
I am happy to report that I have contacted the indivual that originally made this posting and have been able to make amends with them.
Aaron Wesley Means
United States of Americawe have standards in our system
#3REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, November 28, 2009
This person emailed us off and on for weeks, indicating that he was interested in interviewing with our team.
Within the first few moments of the interview, he stated that he had not completely reviewed the preliminary presentation. When he heard that he would need to complete this information, just as every person that we interview must, he became inflamed and told me that he didn't need to, followed by cursing and negative comments. I told him that he wouldn't be a good fit for the team, which made him (or perhaps his ego) even more aggravated.
We are a team with standards and a system that has helped thousands of people, and thank GOD we can decide *WHO* we want to offer a place on the team. That's the beauty of free enterprise. In a job, you are surrounded by people and must work with them, whether or not you want to. In free enterprise we are blessed that we can choose, which relates to quality of life in and of itself.
No one on our team is prepared to compromise that - there are too many good people out there that are looking for the chance to work with us!
Have a Blessed Day,
Aaron Wesley Means
JDL
United States of AmericaAaron Wesley Means
#4Consumer Comment
Tue, November 03, 2009
For the record, NSE (NuSkin) is one of the handful of MLM companies that have stood the test of time, legal scrutiny, and competition. I have great respect for the company, and I have friends that have made alot of money building organizations with one or several of their products or divisions.
However, I must ask AWM about "The Proven Formula Team" system discribed. I experienced this system tonight and was bullied and disrespected by AWM directly. Then he hung up the phone, and CC'd me on this email to his downline....
From: Aaron Wesley Means <[email protected]>
Date: November 2, 2009 8:17:48 PM EST
To: Deidre G****** <deidre*******@hotmail.com>
Subject: removed
Deidre,
I attempted to speak with Jamal regarding his interest in making money, but he showed early on that he is an a*s.
I've removed him from your system, so please update your notes that he has dis-qualified himself from further contact.
Thanks
Aaron Wesley Means
Executive
828.333.5185
I attempted to speak with Jamal regarding his interest in making money, but he showed early on that he is an a*s.
I've removed him from your system, so please update your notes that he has dis-qualified himself from further contact.
Thanks
Aaron Wesley Means
Executive
828.333.5185
**** IS THIS THE SUPER SYSTEM?? YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION FOR YOURSELF, READER******
Awm
Brevard,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
I have built my whole business in less than 2 years with this team and system...this person is simply confused and bitter
#5UPDATE Employee
Thu, April 16, 2009
I could type a rebuttal to everything this person said and provide complete clarity, but I have a hugely busy day, and for that I am excited. I joined this team and system with Nuskin a few years ago and I was very wary to find out all the details and ask all the questions, just like this person did. What I have found is nothing but integrity, honesty, and a sincere commitment to help others. She is so totally confused about the points that she is trying to make that she doesn't even use the correct terminology in her claims, which makes the whole thing transparent in itself. Everything she said started off making sense and quickly de-railed itself by combining multiple points that don't make sense together. I am an Executive and I have seen the ins and outs of all this and I'm not "one of the people at the top " as she claims. I'm just a normal guy who wanted a change and made a COMMITMENT to create something new for my life. I've seen and heard from people like her before, she is nothing knew, and she represents the cross-section of distributors that not only quit, but quit and start blazing guns at every single person who is related to their business except the one who is truly in control, THEMSELVES. Like I said, this is nothing knew under the sun. I've trained many people in this team and system in the past year, and the ones who have to most pride always drop the ball and obsess over the reasons that they weren't an "instant superstar". Interestingly enough, the ones who come on quietly and allow themselves to soak in the whole opportunity, but that most people wouldn't expect much from, end up pushing through and becoming leaders who make great money. Isn't that something? As for our leads system, the problem not the leads, the problem is almost always with the person *PICKING UP THE PHONE TO CALL*. Anyone in Direct Sales will be nodding their head when they read that statement. Nuskin is a global company with the best comp plan in the world, and not only have my leaders bent over backwards to teach it to me, it is also POSTED TO THE PUBLIC ON THE COMPANY WEBSITE. I hope you are getting the picture here. If you are a bull, you will see red. She is just another bull. On that note, the Proven Formula Team is the FASTEST GROWING TEAM in the WORLD with Nuskin, so that should be a great indicator as to just how many people we are helping and not hurting. I've built 90 percent of my thriving business from the comfort of my home using these leads and I have zero complaints. When you are your own boss the buck stops with you - and the claims this person is making screams "I didn't follow through - I wasn't coachable - I wasn't committed " and then "when I didnt' get the answers that I demanded in a way that my mind could understand them, I pulled the ripcord and went out shooting" Again - this is NOTHING KNEW to hear from people that don't follow through. As corny as this sounds to those of you who aren't in direct sales, the life I have right now causes me to wake up each day and *literally* praise God for me finding this team and this system. I'm just an ordinary guy who was stuck in the rat race in Washington DC for 10 years and now I have built this from the ground up and made more friends and relationships than ever before in my life. Thanks for reading. Aaron Wesley Means Executive Distributor 888.333.4789
