contractor at Greater Wealth
Tacoma,#2Consumer Comment
Thu, April 05, 2012
This was never a professional critique and you know it, Jacob. It was always petty and always meant to cause the most damage not on a professional level, but on a wholly personal invasion of privacy and violation of trust from everyone who ever believed in you or gave you break for the most petty reason I can think of. To get back at Gw, who you profess to so despise, because he couldn't make a personal visit to where you lived last week, 2000 miles from where he lives! Unbelievable, deplorable. You are right, I thought it was due to your failed relationship (which is the real reason you attempted suicide, not Gw's "hype"), that was the only thing that made sense given prior mental instability because of this by your own admission. But your motives are even less understandable. You perceived you were stood up by your friend who in actuality couldn't go to your house because he had to see his effing daughter. You despicable fiend. Odd, same thing happened to the Chicago 2012 movie: Gw's grandfather got cancer and he was the only one able to take care of him. The current film was unable to proceed because the cinematographer, yes, Gw's wife, had sudden gallbladder surgery and was taken to the emergency room at 4 in the morning thinking she was having a heart attack, after which a 2 month bout of severe viral infections from the anesthesia tube prevented her from the ability to work or even get on a plane for fear of ear drums rupturing. Apparently, real health emergencies do not factor in to your convenient stories of "truth." And sure, maybe you deny stealing money because you thought you were entitled to it, so it wasn't really stealing, right? Even though your accommodations weren't a personal hotel room, you didn't pay a dime to your living situation the entire 8 months you were here, where your pack a day cigarette habit was generously funded, among other generosities you enjoyed and took for granted. But you were never compensated. Sure. I'm sorry reality does not match up to what you feel entitled to, but that is no reason to destroy someone over your own selfishness.
As for legitimacy, GWP's extensive and expanding portfolio of music, art, video, and multimedia was clearly available online for all to see and judge if it was good enough to call worthy and invest. It's not up to you. No business or financial reports were filed in error in any way, even if you don't understand how these things work (having a .org name by the way has no barring on profit or non-profit businesses. google it sometime please before you say things that make it obvious you don't know what you're talking about). Every investor was given summaries of talents, skills, and bios of key crew members and invited to interview or investigate to their hearts or wallet's content, as well as a huge cache of working scripts and detailed budgets and plans as you well know. You wrote some yourself. Every position of authority had people that had been working in their field, professionally or as a serious hobby for years, if not their whole life. Businesses fail, businesses succeed in rapid lows and highs, especially in the entertainment industry. You can be eating ramen one moment and meet the right person and say the right things and be dining in a penthouse the next. That is part of its allure for many, that is part of its tragedy. You can't put a price on talent and artistic merit, whether $10, $100k or even over a million. This company had an abundance of that drive and talent that many recognized (I'm sorry you still don't), which your report has unforgivably overshadowed. It just needed a chance as you well know. If this business and collective was guilty of anything, the continuing endurance of hope in the face of adversity and minimal resources, the belief in people's potential that might have gotten passed over by life and the "normal way of doing things." Oh yes, and attempting to share the wealth and possibility with friends that could not ultimately be trusted (probably the biggest mistake). That was part of its charm and potential for big success. Have you not read any biographies of start-up companies, especially film and entertainment organizations? They often start from garages and work through their obstacles by the skin of their teeth and the boldness of the risks they are willing to take and the originality of their ideas. Many often get by on their ability to engineer hope or buzz in a project or their chutzpah alone. You are calling the entertainment industry a place of solid, enduring ethics and no hype? Have you lived under a rock? The entertainment industry at its core is based on the hope of becoming something bigger than what it is currently. That is its beating, bloody heart. A belief in a coherent narrative when life is rarely that. Werner Herzog stole his first camera and fled to another country to get his start for christ's sake. John Waters stole a meat stake on camera and made his star actor eat dog s**t for the shock value. Ed Wood stole an octopus from Universal studio and was one of the most prolific filmmakers, despite his limitations. We never came close to any of those real crimes! Maybe the crime of believing we had the talent and ability to create something bigger than ourselves. Your willful ignorance about the volatility and unpredictable nature of the entertainment market does not warrant this report and personal (not professional) attack. It is ultimately inexcusable for you to take everyone else down with you for your insecurities about your own abilities and because you can't handle yourself. You have always sabotaged yourself. And that is an honest professional critique I have always thought about you.
Let me make this very freaking clear: "Failure is the tuition you pay for success."
I will right now refute the claim that transportation costs, indeed any compensation, be put on one individual and instead put the individual responsibility where it belongs: squarely on everyone's own adult shoulders. You were all told of the high risks and possible high rewards. Repeated failure is always a real possibility. No one hog-tied you to a car and forced you to make the change in your life you already wanted to make and dream a little together. You quit your job long before any real arrangements were made because YOU WANTED TO DO IT and you said as much. Please. If the the authentic intent is to come clean, then DO IT. Own up to your choices.
No binding contracts of payments were ever made. All contracts with any mention of monetary stipulation had clear disclaimers of whether the project continued to be properly funded by the whims of investors, which are known to be horribly shaky and unpredictable. This is not fraud. It is reality. Read the contracts you sign. Do some research about the market of your industry before you foam at the mouth and look stupid, professionally and as far as character, you have none. I could go through every single point you have made and easily point out how you arrived at your conclusions through lack of understanding or just plain malicious, backstabbing fabrications. But why? It is a waste of time because it's all made up to distract from the real point.
That is not what this is really about, is it, Jacob? Is it? It is about destroying what you perceive you don't have ... when all along we were waiting for you to come back and join us when you got your head straight. Now that will never be possible. You don't sell out your long-time friends like this. EVER. You were fairly compensated for the work you did and knowingly blew off paying gigs that had been arranged for you. If anyone did not meet the terms of their relationship, it was you. Own up to it.
Justify it how you like, Jacob. You, and you alone, are what have ultimately caused this company's demise by planting the seed of deception for your own insecurities, and definitely NOT your laundry list of half-truths turned into venomous lies. You know it. Everyone with proper perspective and a level head knows it. I hope you're happy with whatever you have now created. Whatever triumphs or failures that have occurred in the past, the aim was always toward the future with love and hope and brotherhood until you put the entire situation irrevocably in a past that never happened except in your own disturbed head. There is nothing clean or honest about your report. You took a budding thing with a lot of potential that just came off of good publicity, solid advancements, and networking resources and destroyed every shred of good, progress, or hope it had. Own up to your destruction. It is now truly all that is left for you here. My deepest sympathies for the death of your hope and the art we made together.
JBlack
Tipton,#3Author of original report
Thu, April 05, 2012
I absolutely deny any accusation that I had stolen any amount of money. Had I more money at the time; I would be sitting comfortably in my own apartment rather than the squalor you've so elegantly described. I will admit that I am not a very successful individual. But that was never anything I was in the business of denying. In fact it was half the point. I'm a nobody, from nowhere.
The larger picture is that Greater Wealth, by and large, consisted of people who had no homes, or moderate to no income. Almost none of us had held a position entertainment, let alone made responsible to lead teams through the inutia of producing media.
As a result our work environments resembled nor produced anything even remotely resembling media entertainment. All the while this being portrayed to prospective clients as a dry spell, or more often, completely covered up. Would you invest a
million in that? Of course you wouldn't if you were given any realistic idea of the circumstances.
The simple fact of the matter, which has not been properly rebutted, is the company's history of reaching agreements, through offering completely fabricated results. Results of which have never been known to deliver. No one has denied that many of the crew agreed to come on board under the stipulation that transportation fees be reimbursed. No one has denied that the company has not met any of the fiscal or organizational requirements or qualifications.
Investors, production companies, and talent were misled. Given information that would make the believe that we had the space, assets, and content and equipment. Just as well, the entire crew was talked into believing that investors had signed binding contracts, and at times, even sent advance money.
It saddens me that this has become a battle of ego vs ego. It is absolutely off base for you people to blame my abrupt disclosure on a personal relationship of mine that since run it's course. My decision was made based only within the context of coming clean. It just goes to show how venomous the situation is on both sides, when the argument strays so far from what really matters.
Professionals expect that each other follow through on promises made. Realistically they cannot deliver what they promise, but they must be forthright. This shows respect for what the other person in the agreement has put at stake. And it goes without saying that entertainment business works on huge amounts of trust and reputation. Trust is the only way you measure the abstract concepts in media that may or may not return the investment.
What's so hard about simply assessing a business in terms of that it actually does? Did we behave ethically in business, if not, what is the price? And can we actually give the million dollar client a million dollar product, or will we end up owing double when we can't deliver?And the big question when it comes time pay back what we promised, can we see that we are not the victims?
contractor at Greater Wealth
Tacoma,#4General Comment
Tue, April 03, 2012
the best or worst April Fools I've seen in a while ...
contractor at Greater Wealth
Tacoma,#5Consumer Comment
Tue, April 03, 2012
I have been involved with the ins and outs of the Greater Wealth project (recently become a company) for 5 years and counting. This report is sickly fraudulent on so many levels, written by an individual with severe mental instability that his friends and family have tried to help him through in the past 8 months, since his girlfriend broke up with him. Sadly, we have failed, despite our best intentions.
A bit of the other side of the story: GWP believed in Jacob's inconsistent work over the years with some projects shining and others failing horribly. Odd that he mentions a benefit concert as an example of his work ethic in the face of others' apparent incompetence. The only benefit show where he "helped" out was far less interesting than the sordid reality that is presented here. Despite having no skill as a cameraman, he wanted to learn the craft from other experienced crew. Since we had an extra camera, we said he could practice filming a live set that night, but his footage was completely unusable with shots swinging back and forth as if he was overly intoxicated most of the time. Our faith in his potential was never meant to be. The last time we had interactions with this man, he stole $200 from our bank account with a smile on his face, after borrowing over $600 for a car and then money to return home to his mother. This can all be confirmed easily and by his own family. We decided not to report it because he was our long-time friend, an idiot savant as they say, and needed psychiatric help. He decided to move back home with his mother after failing to perform in a professional manner and not showing up for work on multiple occasions. He promised us he would be receiving psychiatric counseling, and we hoped that this would help him with some of the inner demons he wrestles with. Unfortunately, it looks like the problems have gotten worse with his self-isolation tendencies, combined with an over-active mind. We wish it would be put to better use than this obsessive drivel.
However, despite whatever personal demons he may be facing at this time, this is a serious breach of contract and trust. Jacob, you signed a Confidentiality Agreement, remember? I am looking at it right now. Even though all this can be chalked up to an active imagination and talent gone sour, you are restricted from speaking publicly about the inner workings of this company in any way, imagined or otherwise. Rest assured, Jacob, this will be dealt with in the appropriate channels for slander and libel. No one is bankrupt here and we, as a collective and supportive group of resourceful individuals, will find a way to afford legal representation for this particular case, if it comes down to that. It hurts my heart to have to deal with you in this manner, but there is no other way to make you understand the ramifications of your serious actions than to treat you as an adult who has broken the law and thrown so many good people under the bus, who have literally given the shirts off their backs to help you through your lowest times resulting from your recent failed relationship with your girlfriend. Your sister is going to be so disappointed and embarrassed when she sees this. The worst part about this is I can no longer call you a friend. I still have hope for you, Jacob. I wish you still did, too. We love you and hope you get the professional help that you require.
And no, I'm sorry Arizona, but I do not give you the exclusive rights to handle this case in any way shape or form for the most obvious reason NONE OF IT HAPPENED IN YOUR STATE. I do not give up my rights in any way to deal with this case appropriately and in a way that makes sense (making sense is defined as NOT flying to Arizona for no apparent reason other than to hope for some form of justice in the state that thought it wise to pass racially-profiling immigration laws). Further, I do not accept the infringing terms of Rip Off Report to be able to submit this important rebuttal to a slanderous post where you have the opportunity to make money from the bad publicity and exploitation of people's misfortune in their professional lives. By reading this and accepting my post as well as the first one without any review whatsoever of any of the claims herein, you agree to these terms.
contractor at Greater Wealth
Tacoma,#6Consumer Comment
Tue, April 03, 2012
I have been involved with the ins and outs of the Greater Wealth project (recently become a company) for 5 years and counting. This report is sickly fraudulent on so many levels, written by an individual with severe mental instability that his friends and family have tried to help him through in the past 8 months, since his girlfriend broke up with him. Sadly, we have failed, despite our best intentions.
A bit of the other side of the story: GWP believed in Jacob's inconsistent work over the years with some projects shining and others failing horribly. Odd that he mentions a benefit concert as an example of his work ethic in the face of others' apparent incompetence. The only benefit show where he "helped" out was far less interesting than the sordid reality that is presented here. Despite having no skill as a cameraman, he wanted to learn the craft from other experienced crew. Since we had an extra camera, we said he could practice filming a live set that night, but his footage was completely unusable with shots swinging back and forth as if he was overly intoxicated most of the time. Our faith in his potential was never meant to be. The last time we had interactions with this man, he stole $200 from our bank account with a smile on his face, after borrowing over $600 for a car and then money to return home to his mother. This can all be confirmed easily and by his own family. We decided not to report it because he was our long-time friend, an idiot savant as they say, and needed psychiatric help. He decided to move back home with his mother after failing to perform in a professional manner and not showing up for work on multiple occasions. He promised us he would be receiving psychiatric counseling, and we hoped that this would help him with some of the inner demons he wrestles with. Unfortunately, it looks like the problems have gotten worse with his self-isolation tendencies, combined with an over-active mind. We wish it would be put to better use than this obsessive drivel.
However, despite whatever personal demons he may be facing at this time, this is a serious breach of contract and trust. Jacob, you signed a Confidentiality Agreement, remember? I am looking at it right now. Even though all this can be chalked up to an active imagination and talent gone sour, you are restricted from speaking publicly about the inner workings of this company in any way, imagined or otherwise. Rest assured, Jacob, this will be dealt with in the appropriate channels for slander and libel. No one is bankrupt here and we, as a collective and supportive group of resourceful individuals, will find a way to afford legal representation for this particular case, if it comes down to that. It hurts my heart to have to deal with you in this manner, but there is no other way to make you understand the ramifications of your serious actions than to treat you as an adult who has broken the law and thrown so many good people under the bus, who have literally given the shirts off their backs to help you through your lowest times resulting from your recent failed relationship with your girlfriend. Your sister is going to be so disappointed and embarrassed when she sees this. The worst part about this is I can no longer call you a friend. I still have hope for you, Jacob. I wish you still did, too. We love you and hope you get the professional help that you require.
And no, I'm sorry Arizona, but I do not give you the exclusive rights to handle this case in any way shape or form, and for the most obvious reason NONE OF IT HAPPENED IN YOUR STATE. I do not accept the infringing terms of Rip Off Report's terms for submitting this important rebuttal to a slanderous post where you have the opportunity to make money from the bad publicity and exploitation of people's misfortune in their professional lives. By reading this and accepting my post as well as the first one without any review whatsoever of any of the claims herein, you agree to these terms.
gw welsh
United States of America#7REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, April 03, 2012
Jacob has been giving more grace and respect than anyone in the company and has been paid plenty for his amateur work in film, he is good at drawing animation style, being moody and also being 2 faced and all around user of drugs, user of kindness from others, a complete liar and I feel very sorry for him.
I'd really like to point one major thing here, ten years is a long time to be around some one whom I loved, and then on whim a get a report out of no where in my e-mail saying what you read from Jacob Kirkpatrick. I care not to stifle any one of there right to say or type what they want. Just the idea that a person can have these feelings and believe there own made up story and not pick up the phone email or face book me and then type a winded non factual story shows what kind of person Jacob Kirkpatrick is.
I will continue to make films and he will continue to try and get a job where ever he can whilst living with his mom or where ever and make things a living hell for those around him. He has been gone for 3 months from my life, left his car (that I gave 500 dollars for) to his sister who still lives here with me. So he isn't completely evil he's just confused and has low self esteem I still love him but this filing a report on the business and making lewd comments about me the whole way through. I can never forgive him and will never talk to him again this is unforgivable and hurtful to me and the rest of the people he put under the bus with this.
But to be clear here I never was involved with any making of porn and any drug dealing.
Two things real quick and then I'm done with this.
1. Jacob Kirkpatrick never had any money (ever) to invest 50 dollars let alone 300 and 486 or any other money he claimed.
2. He was right about one thing. My grandpa has invested money in my endeavors and I thank him for that very much.