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  • Report:  #576892

Complaint Review: Hannah Koch - Litchfield Minnesota

Reported By:
Craiglist Consumer - Brownton, Minnesota, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

Hannah Koch
Hwy 22 Litchfield, 55355 Minnesota, United States of America
Phone:
Web:
www.goldenoaksequine
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
We had responded to a Craigslist farm and garden advertisement for tack.  We were contacted in return by Hannah Koch, this took place in early and mid November 2009.  We ended up purchasing some other items from her that were not listed in the advertisement.

Some time later we were directed to another Craigslist advertisement, claiming that all of the Koch family's tack had been stolen.  The list of stolen items included a few of the items that we had purchased from Hannah Koch in the presence of her father Alan Koch.

It has since been reported that they have claimed another individual was in possession of their stolen tack.
We were never provided any receipts to prove our purchase of used tack but do have the email correspondence sent to us during the solicitation to buy interaction.

Hannah and Alan also attempted to interest us in a bay quarter type mare that was obviously green broke only but they claimed that she was kid broke.
It is our opinion that this family is dishonest.  We would definitely advise to other consumers a Buyer BEWARE attitude in dealing with these people.

They also authorize a local by the name of Bill Dorman to conduct business on their behalf.  To meet and deliver both horses and other items.  Please be careful in dealing with this family and their business associates.


4 Updates & Rebuttals

PleasureNBarrels

Minnesota,
United States of America
Really?

#2Consumer Comment

Fri, September 17, 2010

I believe I know what bay mare your are talking about. Hannah's younger sister (what is she 8 may be?) ran her at a few shows this spring and won alot in good competition. To me that says the horse is a bit above "green broke".

It is up to the buyer to determine if the horse is going to work for them or not, everyone has a different opinion of whats truely broke. What happened to the buyer's responsiblity when making purchases? Or vet checks? I mean a smart horseman would be able to determine if the horse is suitable and should be knowledgeable enough to get a vet check to determine soundness or other issues.

I sure hope you reported to the police about the tack. Insurance fraud is pretty serious and if you don't file a report stating what you have you can also be charged. You should be able to prove it came from them by showing the tack and the emails as you say you have both.

what type of horse experience do you have? How many years? What do you use your horses for? I really wish they put people's real names on here that file these types of accusations. I want to make sure my horse never ends up with such a "knowledgeable horseman" such as yourself.


Craiglist Consumer

Brownton,
Minnesota,
United States of America
Really voiceofreason and ashleyb?

#3Author of original report

Wed, March 17, 2010

The Koch's sold you, a self-professed beginner, a horse that you did not click with.  Which to a more experienced horse person might mean a horse that was not beginner appropriate.  In selling the horse to you after such a thorough trial it could be considered implicit that they were presenting the horse as beginner broke.
But that horse did not work out.

And you purchased another horse from them.  That you love so much.  That is so perfect for you.  That you currently have listed for sale.
Did they find the papers on your perfect horse?  The ad was not conclusive.  Your ad.
The one you are advertising for sale for $2000.
The horse world is smaller than many seem to think.  The truth will out.

We did report our concerns to the police.  We did provide them with the proofs of our purchases.
We had originally attempted to contact the Koch's.  We did not receive a reply.

Insurance is expensive enough without people using it fraudulently to maintain their hobbies.


Karma

Grand Forks,
North Dakota,
United States of America
Karma

#4General Comment

Sat, March 13, 2010

Karma is a female dog.....If what you are saying is true, I hope you reported it to the police, there is a reason we all pay as much as we do for insurance.......What goes around comes around...

If what your saying isn't true, then you shouldn't say it, however, again, if it is, it should be reprted to the police.


voiceofreason

Minnesota,
United States of America
Really?

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, March 10, 2010

Okay first of all, if you have concerns with someone this is not the place to conduct them. I'm guessing you've never taken your concerns to the family in question? No of course not because then you would have to stand up to the accusations you are making.

Also assuming that a farm has only one type of item is crazy...we have multiple saddles that are the same as well as other tack that we have duplicates of. I've seen the ads put up when these items are stolen and there weren't pictures of everything included so I'm curious as to how you think that yours are the exact items? Not that this is your business really anyways how this person was in possession of stolen tack. By the way, if said person had proved it wasn't stolen...do you really think she would have been in jail???

We are good friends with the family and I can assure you they've only had 3 bay horses for sale in the last 6 months and all were clearly up for sale as NOT KID BROKE, and none of which were priced over $1000...so realistically this is not an issue that should concern you at all. Anyways just not quite sure what bay kid-broke mare you were alluding to.

As far as Bill Dorman goes...I have yet to see him have anything to do with selling their animals or things. Be careful when you are throwing around accusations.

Remember to ask yourself if you would want your name slandered over a misunderstanding...and if you are a friend of the woman in question who was in possession of stolen tack then shame on you for posting things you truly have no knowledge about.

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