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  • Report:  #516986

Complaint Review: HLAA - internet Internet

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Foreclosed on - Miami, Florida, USA
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HLAA
internet, 33309 Internet, United States of America
Phone:
9549335652
Web:
HLAALAW.org
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HLAA (homeowners legal assistance association) is a fraud!!! I have spoken to many people who thought they would help them save their homes, come to find out they were working with an attorney who just got arrested for mortgage fraud!

Look up Mark Zirogiannis on google and you will see. HLAA and Justice Paper Processing does not care about any of its clients! They do not return phone calls and take months to even contact the bank. They are too buzy to spend any time on any given client.

All the clients that HLAA referred to Mark Zirogiannis lost their homes. Now they have a new attorney David Galanter who is up to the same tricks as the old attorney. The attorney is based out of NEW YORK and the HLAA and the whole processing staff in in FLORIDA?!>?! This means the attorney is practicing law in all 50 states when his license is only in NEW YORK. They attorney doesn't even touch the files! They pay young high school kids $10.00 an hour to process these files and try and call the banks. These people have never even owned a home themselves! I have spoken to many people that worked with the HLAA and even the people who marketed for them say they are a fraud!

I am warning everyone out there who is thinking or has already done a modification with HLAA. GET YOUR MONEY BACK! CALL YOUR BANK AND CHARGE BACK EVERY PENNY YOU HAVE PAID. You will see they will lose your home and when you call them for help they will ignore you!

If you have done a modification and have been a victim of HLAA, call your attorney general! report them! let the state legislator know they are stealing from people. I have included their address below and telephone number so you can report them.

People are losing their homes, money and are given false hope because of these slick bastards. DO NOT BE A VICTIM! FIGHT AGAINST THESE SCUM!

Call them let them know they are scum of the earth!

HLAA (homeowners legal assistance association)

2950 W cypress creek rd. Suite 306

Ft. Lauderdale, FL. 33309

tel: 954.933.5652

tel: ALEX ENDE (owner): 561.376.6451

tel: Jason Saltzman (owner): 954-297-8850

tel: Jonathan Ende (owner): 954.933.5652 x 2289

***CALL YOUR STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL AND REPORT THESE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY CAN HURT ANYONE ELSE*** BELOW IS A LETTER THEY SENT OUT TO THERE CLIENTS AFTER MARK ZIROGIANNIS GOT ARRESTED, THEY ALREADY GOT PAID ON THE FILES AND TRYED TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF THESE PEOPLE.. MOST OF THEM COULD NOT PAY AND THEY LOST THEIR HOMES!***

RE : URGENT ISSUE REGARDING THE LAW OFFICE OF MARC ZIRIGIANNIS

  Dear Sir or Madam:

  It has come to our attention that your file has been wrongfully directed to our office by the Law Office of Marc Ziriogiannis, hereafter the Law Office.   The Homeowner Legal Assistance Association, hereafter HLAA, nor any associate or related company ever requested or authorized the transfer of any file to this or any branch office.   The HLAA is NOT a law office and as such we are not permitted to work directly on your file. You have signed an Attorney Retainer Agreement with the Law Office directly and as such they are to be held accountable to you.   To state that a file has been transferred is not only inaccurate but it is also impossible.   The borrower authorization was signed directly with the Law Office and ONLY allows the individuals employed by the Law Office appointed in the authorization the ability to deal with the lender on your behalf.  

 

Due to the overwhelming response from clients it can be assumed that not only has the Law Office been negligent in their duty and obligation under the Attorney Retainer Agreement, but the Law Office is apparently unwilling to service their clients.   The Law Office has instructed you to contact the HLAA without any permission or right.   The HLAA has officially removed the Law Office from our network due to numerous infractions of HLAA policy.   Not only has the Law Office violated the terms with their clients, but they have neglected to follow the guidelines of the HLAA as well.   The HLAA is no longer affiliated with the Law Office in any manner.  

 

Although the HLAA has no fiscal or legal obligation to the file, it has arranged for alternative methods for your file to be processed.   If you feel that the service of the Law Office has been below standards or expectations, it is your right under the Attorney Retainer Agreement to request or demand a refund.  

 

In addition, you may wish to complain to the appropriate authorities about the negligence of the Law Office.   The New York State Attorney Grievance Committee may be employed as a vehicle to file a complaint. We encourage clients to contact them if they believe it is appropriate; all complaints must be made in writing. The contact information for the New York State Attorney Grievance Committee has been included below for your convenience.  

 

Unfortunately, we do feel that the reputation of the HLAA has been tarnished by the actions of the Law Office.   Our goal to help has been delayed, but we have been able to make additional arrangements for legal assistance.   There is the possibility to arrange for alternative counsel to take over your file and process it properly at a substantially discounted rate. If you choose to retain the new counsel through the HLAA, a standard, non negotiable flat rate of $500.00 will be applied.   Regardless of your decision we do recommend attempting to obtain a refund from the Law Office if you believe it is appropriate.  

 

The HLAA ensures that the new client counsel obtained has been certified with the American Bar Association, hereafter ABA , for over 15 years. Additionally, counsel has successfully in practice for over 10 years. The attorney has been brought on specifically to deal with the issue at hand, but in addition has experience processing this type of file. If you are not happy with the attorney within the first 5 business days you will be issued a FULL refund of the $500.00 without any question.   After five business days you are entitled to a partial refund of the $500.00 contingent on the amount of work completed on your case.

 

The HLAA is baffled by the apparent negligence of the Law Firm and their actions.   We sincerely apologize for this inconvenience caused by the Law Office.   We take this matter seriously and will attempt to help in any way we can.   If you do not wish to obtain new counsel please refer to the contact numbers below to file complaints against the Law Office.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Jason Saltzman

Chief Marketing Officer

HLAA

 

Complaint Contact Information

The following are the contact numbers to Marc Ziorigiannis and the staff of the Law Office of Marc Ziorigiannis to request an update or refund:

 

MARC A. ZIROGIANNIS, ESQ.

1065 OLD COUNTRY ROAD-STE 204

WESTBURY , NY 11590

Law office (general contact): (516)333-6200

Marc Ziorigiannis (direct contact): (516)250-5255: [email protected]

Aman Verma: (516)428-6362: [email protected]

Peter Ziorigiannis: (516)318-4846: [email protected]

 

If you have complaints we encourage you to contact the New York Attorney Grievance Committee at the following address: Attorney Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District 150 Motor Parkway, Suite 102 Hauppauge , NY 11788 (631) 231-3775

 



8 Updates & Rebuttals

Carl

Miami,
Florida,
United States of America
David Galanter- HLAA- Justice paper

#2UPDATE Employee

Thu, March 04, 2010

This entire scheme is a fraud. They lure homeowners to a great divisive story and even their name seems to lend itself to the deception. This deception is so good that they even use it to capture representatives to sell the program for them. It is only after homeowners have been brought in to it do many of the representatives figure it out as well. This who stay and continue to represent it are crooks as I see one of their representatives claiming to be homeowner who spends all of their time looking up this web site to defend them SURE. I was a representative who believed the BS from this highly deceptive bunch. First they have ads to attract representatives through 3rd party contractors who sell the very same thing to the representatives. Thinking one is representing a good honest company and attorney network one goes to work. Then after the customers pay and one begins to notice the pure none sense from their scheme processing center Justice Paper whos employees are a bunch of snot nosed arrogant kids at 2950 West Cypress Creek Road Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309  (954) 978-1668 and the attorney who should be imprisoned for this scam 1501 Broadway New York, NY 10036 (212) 221-5700. I represented over 30 families that I sent these crooks and 90% after 4 months, yes you heard this right 90% got no results with the majority of them loosing their homes. Many of the representatives that will represent homeowners will be clueless in the beginning as they find this out and then they like me and the group that was performing this for them also decided to leave because of this fraud being committed to many nice people across the country during these hard times. THIS ORGANIZATION ARE CROOKS DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. REPORT THE ATTORNEY TO THE LAW IN NY AND JUSTICE PAPER TO BILL MCCOLLUM ATTORNEY GENERAL IN FLORIDA.  How they play the game is this, they take the upfront fee and then these snot nosed kids will keep asking for the same paperwork back and forth for about 4 months. At the end of 4 months they tell the homeowner that their bank didnt want to give them a modification then they refund them 25% of the entire fee paid by the poor homeowner. Still a profit for them. PUT THESE CRIMINALS IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG

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This entire scheme is a fraud. They lure homeowners to a great divisive story and even their name seems to lend itself to the deception. This deception is so good that they even use it to capture representatives to sell the program for them. It is only after homeowners have been brought in to it do many of the representatives figure it out as well. This who stay and continue to represent it are crooks as I see one of their representatives claiming to be homeowner who spends all of their time looking up this web site to defend them SURE. I was a representative who believed the BS from this highly deceptive bunch. First they have ads to attract representatives through 3rd party contractors who sell the very same thing to the representatives. Thinking one is representing a good honest company and attorney network one goes to work. Then after the customers pay and one begins to notice the pure none sense from their scheme processing center Justice Paper whos employees are a bunch of snot nosed arrogant kids at 2950 West Cypress Creek Road Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309  (954) 978-1668 and the attorney who should be imprisoned for this scam 1501 Broadway New York, NY 10036 (212) 221-5700. I represented over 30 families that I sent these crooks and 90% after 4 months, yes you heard this right 90% got no results with the majority of them loosing their homes. Many of the representatives that will represent homeowners will be clueless in the beginning as they find this out and then they like me and the group that was performing this for them also decided to leave because of this fraud being committed to many nice people across the country during these hard times. THIS ORGANIZATION ARE CROOKS DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. REPORT THE ATTORNEY TO THE LAW IN NY AND JUSTICE PAPER TO BILL MCCOLLUM ATTORNEY GENERAL IN FLORIDA.  How they play the game is this, they take the upfront fee and then these snot nosed kids will keep asking for the same paperwork back and forth for about 4 months. At the end of 4 months they tell the homeowner that their bank didnt want to give them a modification then they refund them 25% of the entire fee paid by the poor homeowner. Still a profit for them. PUT THESE CRIMINALS IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG


Anthony

lake worth,
Florida,
United States of America
These people HELP people

#3Consumer Comment

Tue, January 12, 2010

I need to make a comment about this company and all the misunderstandings that swirl around by people who don't know what they are talking about, what they are doing, or have some sort of an ax to grind.

First, this not for profit company does NOT modify loans, lenders do, your bank does....MAYBE.

This entire program is NOT an entitlement program and nobody can promise that you will get your mortgage modified, except for the bank, or lender...PERIOD.

OK, so what does the HLAA actually do?

READ THIS CAREFULLY:

1) They process the paper work that is required by lenders to have them review our information for a potential modification.

2) They follow up on a regular basis with the lender to move the process along and keep us updated through a unique computer program called 1st STATUS, which can be accessed by them, the lawyers, and us, the homeowner.

3) They make certain that the lender has all the documents they need to evaluate our situations, and come to a decision on whether or not we qualify for a modification.

4) They submit our files more than once EVEN IF THE LENDER TURNS US DOWN....one more time to cover all the bases for us.

5) They allow us to live our lives while they do the work, backed by a legal team that makes certain that the work is done legally and complies with all regulations, and gives us inexpensive legal backup for the processing to be done correctly!

6) THEY LISTEN, THEY TAKE MY CALLS, THEY WILL TAKE YOURS AND ANSWER EVERYTHING, EVEN IF ITS NOT THE NEWS YOU WANT TO HEAR.

7) They never claim to be miracle workers or have a special magic wand, to keep the bank/lender from foreclosing on our homes, NOR DO THEY PAY OUR MORTGAGE!!

What exactly is my point here??? Well, since everyone who dosent get a modification is not happy, they look for someone to blame....anyone....like the HLAA who simply does the work that we have decided we need help with....sort of like blaiming TURBO TAX for us having to pay our taxes!

As with any service business, there will be satisfied, as well as unsatisfied clients.

When the doctor tells you that you have lung cancer, after you've smoked for 50 years, you will NOT like what the doctor has to say.

When H&R Block tells you, you owe taxes, you won't be thrilled.

When you don't pay the mortgage on your home, and do not qualify for a modification, you could lose your home....they wont let you have the home for FREE folks. If you have the HLAA working with you, they might be the ones to tell you first!

You CAN expect to have a professional organization, work on your behalf, however, to make certain that your case is handled properly and processed timely, and updated regularly, backed by a network of lawyers, so that YOU do not have to go it alone, with the lenders/banks.

The HLAA has helped many, offer an incredible service in a thankless business, and should be THANKED, for the work they do!

I am a satisfied homeowner.


leighsm

Honolulu,
Hawaii,
United States of America
Don't sign up with HLAA

#4Consumer Comment

Thu, December 31, 2009

I'm a current client with HLAA. I paid $2750 for their services but it hasn't been worth it and I'm very close to losing my home. The originator of this thread points out some of the things that worry me, namely that the lawyer is in one state and my file is being processed in another. I'm not sure who the people are that are working with my case but they're not attorneys. I googled the name of the main person who is working on my file and I found his twitter account. He's a young man that looks to be no older than 19-20, and his twitters are all about how to make money fast.

I signed up with HLAA because the people pushing it here in my state are people I know and trust. But its been my assessment since then they've been taken in just as well. Basically the relationship between myself and HLAA these past six months has been of them asking me to fax in documents, they upload it for my review, and if I want to reply I can do so and it gets posted in my file.

They're supposed to be negotiating with the lenders but progress reports are few and far in-between. Meanwhile my lender is sending me foreclosure notices, etc. My overall feeling is that HLAA is not doing anything that I can't do for myself. I'm going to see my bank to see if there is anything I can do to get my money back but my advice for those of you who are contemplating signing up with the company is not to do it. Work directly with your mortgage company instead or go to the makinghomeaffordable.gov website but don't sign up for any modification company that collects a fee. You'll end up feeling like your sitting in the dark not knowing what the status of your modification is and meanwhile your home is being sold. It's better to deal with the mortgage company directly and know exactly where you stand.


Questions

Shelton,
Washington,
United States of America
HLAA a rip off?

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, December 29, 2009

Hello,

I am in the process of working with this company now. I have been speaking to an individual by the name of Ronald Erickson out of Florida. He appear's to have all the awnsers. Is there a possibilty that maybe the bad seed is gone? I am in very much need of help and unsure where to go. We have completed all paperwork with the exception of payment. All my personal information has been submitted. Am I at risk? Please help!

A.Smith


Donna

Metuchen,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
1st America Save Loan Modification from Francisca Silva

#6Consumer Comment

Sun, December 20, 2009

Hi I have the same problem with a lady name  Francisca Silva she worked with 1st America Save and now she transfer to HLAA and first she works at 1st america save and i gave them fees for $1974.64 for loan modification process and francisca silva said  you are not making payments for 6 months until process finished anow we are in foreclosure!  They said the our loan mortgage company did not approved and it was denied . I asked them for refund. I was very upset for lose our home.

Why do these people making advertising in website?

I kept praying for every hours to keep our home. I called lawyer in Florida explain what happen and they said they try to the best they could save our home..

Now my mortgage company is asking for $15,000 to $20,000 for down payment for repayment plan but we don't have that kind of money.

They blow my face up for this kind of foreclosure.

Laywer in Florida name is Rashmi Airan Pace, Coral Gables FLA.

 

My name is Donna Nagy and my home will be put up for sale on Feb 2010

My kids are not happy want stay this house .

 

I cry every hour and every mins . When My mom called and ask if we are ready to look for apt i said shut up and making me upset.

Laywer in Fla called to my lawyer in NJ and they explained the clarification about loan modification denied by the investor.


Foreclosed on

coral springs,
Florida,
USA
Believe what you will.. my first report was correct regardless of what Jason states

#7Author of original report

Thu, November 12, 2009

Jason was right, I am a disgruntled contractor that worked with HLAA about 8 months ago.  I left once my clients began losing their homes because Mark Zirogiannis stopped working on the files. I wrote this report to warn people of working with this company. I do not know if their new attorney is legit or not because I have not worked with them since we stopped our business, but I know what they did to my clients with the old attorney.

The law office never returned any phone calls from clients, and Mark Zirogiannis got arrested for mortgage fraud.. how can you trust a company like that? Look up Mark Zirogiannis on google you will see for yourself.

Don't let these smooth talking kids trick you into signing up with them. Im sure they have done some good for some people.. but what about all the people that lost their homes? they wont put their information up.. only the good ones they want you to know about.

Maybe this new attorney is doing the right thing, I couldn't tell you, but I know my experience with HLAA and Mark Zigogiannis and it was horrible.

These people are money hungry then and im sure they are now. They do not care about the homeowners, they care about their pocket.

I have spoken to a few other organizations that worked with HLAA and they all say the same thing that I wrote in my first report. I would be cautious before signing up with this organization.

They do not take a single dollar from clients, they let the attorney Mark Zirogiannis take the money and then the attorney pays them. Its a three card monte trick.

I signed up as a contractor to market for 1st Amerisave and HLAA about 1 year ago and all of my clients that we signed up lost their homes with Mark Zirogiannis.. Fair warning to all who wants to take this risk.. they do not care!


Waialua,Hi 96791

Waialua,
Hawaii,
United States of America
satisfied consumer

#8General Comment

Wed, November 11, 2009

I'm a consumer who has been taken by other companys that offered loan modifcation, until now those companys has not responded. I took another risk to go with this company HLAA, to my surprise, they were able to stop my auction sale date about 6 times. With there help, I finally received my trial date and in the process for my second trial payment. I'm not sure what has happened with that other person but with the support that HLAA has provided and willing to help me thru the process, I'm able to keep my home with an affordable payment.


Jason Saltzman HLAA

Fort Lauderdale,
Florida,
United States of America
Fraudulent Report / HLAA / The Truth

#9REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, November 10, 2009

Dear Client(s):   My name is Jason Saltzman and I am an officer of the Homeowners Legal Assistance Association, the HLAA.   I would like to urge anyone who is considering using our service to PLEASE READ THIS RESONSE . The HLAA is a not for profit company that works with attorneys and processing companies throughout the country to help Americas homeowners.  We have never taken a dollar from a single client!  We are experts in all Federal guidelines, including the Financial Stability Act and the Home Affordable Mortgage Program, and place clients in touch with attorneys that can help them.   Applying for mortgage mitigation can be a daunting and intimidating task for a homeowner and the HLAA recommends getting a legal counsel from a qualified attorney.   I would like to address all the claims that this anonymous person has posted.  I welcome any prospective client to come by our office and see the good work we are doing to save peoples homes.  Talk to any of the people that we work with and I think you will all see they are very proud of the work that we do here!  Many times people file complaints under a variety of different circumstances: disgruntled employees, competitors,  or just people that are not happy in general.      It has recently been brought to our attention that the actual author of this anonymous posting was written by a former contractor that was terminated  as a result of his attempt to steal internal trade secrets and client lists.  This individual attempted to steal our proprietary software and client list in order to start a competing company on his own.  We have proof of this attempt to steal both the software and business which  violates his agreement with our organization and therefore has banned them from using our services and has subjected himself to potential litigation for breach of contract and commercial slander.   Any organization that deals with the amount of clientele that we deal with, especially in this complaint ridden type of industry, faces these type of issues.  We stand by our product, our level of quality control and we have always had a liberal refund policy for any client that is not satisfied with our services.  Our current company has never had 1 credit card chargeback! The company 1stAmeriSave, that he alludes to, was actually my first company but was solely a sales office and its doors have been shut down for over a year.  Even so, we felt , as we still feel , that for many reasons people that are going through this type of situation need legal representation.  At the time we went through a detailed search for an attorney that we could trust to get the job done and treat our clients fairly!  Marc A Ziorigiannis presented us with an opportunity to offer affordable legal services for those who need it.  Unfortunately, unbeknownst to us Marc had many other serious things occurring in his life that after months of working together to do great work for our clients all of a sudden severely affected his companies work.  Every single client signed up with his law offices directly and the HLAA or any non lawyer affiliate has never taken a dollar from a single client.  Although, it was their responsibility and fiduciary duty to service the clients they abandoned us all!  Rather than close up shop, I scrambled to start a new company to sign on other attorneys (angels!) and processors to help the clients in need.  As we stated previously, the Law Offices of Marc Ziriogiannis were the ones that received all fees and servicing all the clients was entirely their responsibility and obligation.  I took on the daunting and expensive task and was able to provide a solution for hundreds of clients that would have otherwise been totally abandoned.  That is the reason for the transfer letter mentioned in previous post.  The post also makes other claims about the quality of our services.  We stand by our services 100% and are sure that if you ask any of our many people that we work with they are very proud to work with our company.  The staffs of all of our attorneys are highly trained and experienced.  In fact each one is subjected to internal training along government guidelines on a weekly basis.  Ages range from 24 to 62 and include lawyers, mortgage processors, paralegals, secretaries, assistants and more.  We are very strict with our hiring requirements and make sure that we are overstaffed to ensure the quality of our processing.    I urge anyone who is looking into our company to please take these accusations with a grain of salt.  Give us the opportunity to show you and to prove to you our mission and our services.  With every week that passes we obtain a substantial amount of successful modifications reducing the monthly payment due to lenders from our clients.  To just name a few: Norb C.: $999.11 to $527.00 Reynaldo V.: $1235 to $951.65 Brian S.:  $3550.79 to $1678.04 Gus C.: $3337.57 to $2442.67 Fred C.: $3314.48 to $1574.20 Come in and we will show you first hand these examples and even show you many, many more! An accusation like this is unfortunate but as always we are not going anywhere.  Many companies in this business set up and are now long gone, but we are still here and doing better than ever.  We are here to answer to any complaints and continue working for our clients.  If you are a real client and you have a legitimate concern please contact me.  We are here to help.  I want to thank you for reading this response.  It is a shame when someone slanders you especially when it is malicious,  inaccurate and motivated by a hidden agenda.  Thank you for reading the response and I encourage anyone with a great experience with our company to post your remarks! Unlike the anonymous individual who make these false claims and accusations without contact info or even a name, I am here to answer any concerns.  You can contact me anytime!  Jason Saltzman Managing Director Homeowner Legal Assistance Association Phone: 954.297.8850 Email: [email protected] Web: www.hlaalaw.org      

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