Complaint Review: Imagine 2020 - Newvision - Boyd Processing Service - Portland Oregon

Sorry my last reply was looking pretty lame there. I had actually posted a very long reply, but the admin of this site for some odd reason didn't like it! Well, I have to add only one thing: If you ever have any questions that your upline does not answer, just call 1-800-MINERALS And they will answer all of your questions. I don't know who y our enroller is but New Vision id a real company out of Scottsdale, Arizona. It is a great opportunity for the right people. If you don't feel like working, then this is not for you. You will not get rich quick from this. But if you spend 20-30 hours a week calling prospects, y9ou can replace your day job in about 5 years and work form home doing this full time, or retire as your residuals will be well worth the effort! Good Luck!

Sorry my last reply was looking pretty lame there. I had actually posted a very long reply, but the admin of this site for some odd reason didn't like it! Well, I have to add only one thing: If you ever have any questions that your upline does not answer, just call 1-800-MINERALS And they will answer all of your questions. I don't know who y our enroller is but New Vision id a real company out of Scottsdale, Arizona. It is a great opportunity for the right people. If you don't feel like working, then this is not for you. You will not get rich quick from this. But if you spend 20-30 hours a week calling prospects, y9ou can replace your day job in about 5 years and work form home doing this full time, or retire as your residuals will be well worth the effort! Good Luck!

Accurate information is invaluable.
Unfortunately the posting by Ram is not
contextually accurate and seems as if the person was left to their own devices and they did not investigate nor report accurately.Only a surface or shallow line of information was presented and appears more frustrated and emotional than anything else.

If it was a refund Ram was looking for then the emails Ram would have to have recieved would have explained the relationship that Imagine2020 has with New Vision. Imagine2020 is solely an internet marketing tool that is completely seperate from New Vision but acts as a method of introducing people who have opted-in for further review or a "tour" of both the New Vision company and I2020's email marketing system of recruiting people wanting an online business. A seperate series of emails would have gone out to Ram before actually finding out about I2020. This creates a electronic paper trial of time/date stamps and Ram's particular Isp address for verifying the legitimacy of Ram's request.Double opt-in might be what it could be called.

You dont come across this "Marketing Tool" without an email address and it prompts you to upgrade to paid member especially when someone in the success line beneath "you" upgrades to paid member, while giving you the ability to upgrade and get in ahead of that person, because you were in the success line before them. Starting out with someone already in your business is a powerful motivator. Far more than nearly all others out there until recently (last 12 months).

New Vision would be the company that Ram would have recieved the "$100 of vitamins he couldnt sell", but apparently Ram somehow missed the seperate email telling him the product had been shipped, Nor the Credit card line item on the next billing statement that would show New Vision as the actual company that the Vitamins were purchased from? Not to mention the Company literature in the actual box the product comes in.

What was Ram's real problem here? New Vision has a 1 year (12 months) empty bottle refund policy.

How quickly did Ram decide that the marketing program and the product were not what Ram felt comfortable with?

Pyramid Schemes as a descriptive set of words has gone beyond the intended meaning and now seems to be used as catch all for any marketing plan that requires a participant to find and market the business to others who would like to be in business as well. Business requires the exchange of value for value,wether to a customer or an associate. Four letter words which can be included here are RISK and WORK and neither are fully discussed or even addressed well enough by most discussions centered on complaints.

Whatever words we choose to describe a companies pay plan, this system is here to stay. The "P" word conjures up so much emotional baggage for both the one speaking and the one listening that its really an indicator of the undeveloped educational level of the user. And should be used as a way to identify people who are not suitable for assessing Risk / Reward decisions relating to going into a business of this nature. Free Enterprise is not free of Risk nor Work and the term due diligance requires that we take responsibility of our education and our ability to make informed decisions.

As in this example, Vitamins ought to be a product you believe in the necessity for yourself.The saying "Being a product of the product" really does apply here. Belief in the value of whatever product you associate yourself with is a building block of any sucessful venture.
If you cant tell your friends and family what business your in, Wether you leave them alone or share it with them, Then that should tell you everything you need to know then and there. Otherwise the truth is that you are just investigating and are not really in business yet.

Thomas Edison is an excellent example of a businessman/ inventor who was intimately involved in the process of failure. After 10,000 failed experiments he must have believed that he could create light to have persisted . An extreme example but He was considered and is considered a success.

I believe that most of us will never become millionaires "selling" a product nor by investing in real estate. We dont have the emotional make up to deal with the risk. Risk of rejection or the risk of loss that goes with becoming a "Millionaire". Finding out who you are and what makes you tick , what really are your motivations is far more relevant in the start of your business. If you cant Risk failure ,you probably need more education of some form or another

OOPS!

I said you can save 6000 a month...

I meant to say 6000 a year.

This is because you can write off such things as:

Telephone
Internet
Rent or mortgage
Children over the age of 7 who will help you with the business
Car
Gas
Tires
Brakes

You don't have to beleive me, just call your congressperson and ask!

Or go to IRS.GOV and look it up!

It is called deductions and it is real. This is a tremendous benefit of New Vision!

And the list climbs up to around 150 things!!!