In February 2006 I ordered John Beck's Financial Freedom Free & Clear Kit from an info-mercial on TV for $54.45 (including shipping.) It arrived in early March 2006. I had not even had a chance to check in out, when a couple days later, David McFarland from John Beck called and said that they were looking for only about 30 people to participate in a special program to work one-on-one with John Beck (John Beck Mentoring Institute)or one of his professional real estate tax sales specialists. However, you had to "qualify".

David proceeded to tell me that you had to invest only 5 to 10 hours per week, and they would show us how to purchase real estate tax properties for little or no money down. They also stressed that we had to be "quick decision makers". David wanted to know if we had good credit and proceeded to find out how much open credit we had our cards. He explained that we would use "other people's money" (banks) to purchase the program and properties by simply placing the debt on our card for only 1 to 2 months and then paying if off in full with a large profit. (I later found out that this is where they determine the cost of the program. Prices range from $2,000 to $10,000+ and more based upon your open lines of credit for essentially the same "fake" program) He said that their professional specialists or John Beck would personally show us how it is done.

They were working one on one with only these few in order to help create more success stories for the next info-mercial. We thought it was almost like the lottery or something, because we felt we were going to be taught all the secrets of success without having to make costly and timely mistakes ourselves.

We were so wrong! David said that he thought we would qualify and transferred us to Jeff Beamish, his manager. Jeff was a smooth talker and guaranteed that we would make back our $6,499.00 program cost within 2 months and receive large profits. We were coerced into purchasing the program with many, many guarantees and expectations. They transferred us to his secretary, who started trying to record our acceptance into the program. What she was saying was not exactly what Jeff had said about the guarantee and the program, so we told her.

Jeff was immediately back on the phone totally slicking everything over, and guaranteeing the program. Jeff explained that this had to be recorded in order to tstart the program and we would make our money back ($6,499) in merely 2 months or less. The next day, we were feeling a little apprehension after sleeping on it, and we phone Jeff.

Jeff totally assured us and guaranteed the validity and success of the program and put us at ease. He also told us to immediately sign the paperwork they were sending out, so the mentor could begin.

They sent our box of binders and Cd's and the enrollment confirmation which had to be signed. We returned it. Our mentor, David Yates, began calling on the wrong day. He left a message and I was upset that he had called on a different day than the secretary had told me. I called the office number and they somehow transferred my call to David's cell phone. David was totally freaked out and nervous....."How did you get my number?" Apparently, they have never transferred his calls directly to him, and incidentally, after that I have never been able to or allowed to reach him by phone.

It must have been a new employee or something. Ha ha! I was confused why my mentor, who was supposed to be my right hand man, and work so closely with me did not want me to contact him or even be able to do so! He ended up calling back the next day, and said that he would only call me 1 time per week for only 1/2 hour per day for 10 weeks. No one had EVER said anything about only 1/2 hour!

This was ridiculous! That breaks down to approx. $650.00 per 1/2 hour phone call! That is more than ANY attorney that I know even charges! He was cold and rude. He started and continued to give evasive, vague, general and confusing information each week. I continued for 4 or 5 sessions, when I realized that this was a farce. I truly worked hard on the program. I spent 30+ hours, and found his information stupid and general.

I learned that all of the properties that I researched (hundreds and hundreds and more) were "junk" properties. They were tiny, tiny pieces of land, leftover portions in a subdivision where utilties ran, intersections in roads, well sites in towns, time shares, percentages of condo ownership, and my favorite....subdivisions that never became subdivisions without utilities or even maintained roads.

In fact, after further research, there were no hopes that they would EVER be developed. They were all overpriced, and many tax sales started in the thousands or hundreeds of thousands of dollars. Many were withdrawn. I confronted my mentor many times, and he said that he knew that there were tons and tons of bad tax sale properties, and he never once agreed to look at any of the properties with me to discuss any good or bad points, specific information, etc. He agreed that they were extremely hard to even find!

I tried the Johnbeckland.com site, and it was a joke. They were not low priced, and there were not many to choose from. Most of them were similiar to a camping membership in a park that I purchased once, where you pay a yearly maintenance fee and can put a camper or RV on the property and use it for recreation.

Nothing that I found anywhere was a good investment. In fact, I knew that everything that I had diligently researched would place me farther in debt and I most definitely would not be able to sell it for a profit or possibly sell it at all! I had been trying and trying to get through many different John Beck phone numbers, and mysteriously, I couldn't even get a live person. My original salesman, David and Jeff,were unreachable and never returned messages.

I told my mentor that I was cancelling and this was not represented like it was being handled. He told me to call customer service. Finally, after many, many attempts, I reached Erin White in Customer Service. She was rude and said payment was final and there would be no refund. After pleading with her, she finally agreed to have Stacey Johnson, a committee member, return my call in 3 to 5 business days. She did not.

I e-mailed my mentor again, and finally Stacey called. She was the coldest, rudest person I have ever dealt with in my entire life. Almost immediately, she was sighing on the phone while I was speaking, and then cutting off my words, and saying "no refund"...."payment was final". Before it was over, she hung up on me twice and brought me to utter tears.

I was a psychological mess! The only thing she finally sent was an offer for $1000 credit and changing my coach. I did not want to sign anything further until I researched some more. How did I know of another coach would be any better? I found that there are TONS of complaints on ripoffreport.com and infomercialscams.com. All with extremely similar stories to my nightmare. Some have actually changed coaches and ended up the exact same way.

This company cares nothing about anyone, but your thousands of dollars that they coax out of you up front. I have filed a report with the FTC, I submitted it to the FBI, I am disputing my credit card charges, I have filed with attorney generals in Utah, California, and Indiana, and I intend on filing with the Better Business Bureau. In fact, the Better Business Bureau has them rated as an "F", which is horrible, and they have had 166 dispute claims just this year alone! I only wish that I would've had the time and knowledge to have researched them first.

I am out $6,499.00 and their deceptive phone tactics and tactic of rudeness just doesn't work with me. They have misrepresented their information and guarantee and have failed to provide me with a successful program. It is a scam, and I highly plead for everyone to NOT purchase anything with John Beck's name on it.

If any one can help me in my case, I would certainly appreciate any help at all. If there is a class action suit, I want to be a part of it. I urge everyone to file many, many claims against his fraudulent company and behaviors.

Shannon

Florence, Indiana
U.S.A.

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27 Updates & Rebuttals

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Legal Action Taken by the State of Utah against Mentoring of America

#2Consumer Suggestion

Tue, August 08, 2006

On October 21, 2004 Mentoring of America, LLC entered into a settlement agreement with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection (the Division). According to the terms of the agreement, Mentoring of America, LLC agreed to pay a fine of $2,000 and comply with all provisions of the Consumer Sales Practices Act and the Telephone Fraud Prevention Act in future consumer transactions in the state of Utah. Mentoring of America, LLC also agreed that within 30 days it would submit a completed application for telemarketing under the Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and make refunds within ten days in the amounts previously agreed to with the Division to those consumers whose names were previously listed and others whose complaints were pending with the Division of Consumer Protection. On October 28, 2005 Mentoring of America, LLC entered into a settlement agreement with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection (the Division). According to the terms of the agreement, Mentoring of America, LLC agreed to comply with all requirements of the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, Utah Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, Business Opportunity Act and all other laws and rules administered by the Division applicable to them. The company agreed to pay an administrative fine to the Division, and make refunds by December 31, 2005 to consumers referenced in the agreement. The company also agreed to resolve and refund, without Division action, all other consumer complaints similarly situated under the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, Utah Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and Utah Business Opportunity Act that are filed with the Division in the future and that occurred prior to this settlement agreement. The company further agreed to disclose in a clear and conspicuous manner the products and/or services represented in their sales presentations as well as whom will be providing those products and/or services. Nothing in the agreement should be construed as an admission of guilt or liability by Mentoring of America, LLC. On April 4, 2006 the Utah Division of Consumer Protection (the Division) filed an amended complaint with the Third Judicial District Court of the State of Utah (the Court) against Mentoring of America LLC, John Beck Amazing Profits LLC, and Jeff Paul (MOA). Charges filed indicate MOA breached the settlement agreement dated October 28, 2005 by failing to file the disclosures required to sell assisted marketing plans; honor the three-day right to cancel; and reform its business practices. The complaint indicates that MOA violated the Consumer Sales Practices Act, the Business Opportunity Disclosure Act, and the Telephone Fraud Prevention Act. The Division is seeking: damages and restitution for loss suffered by consumers to date; a fine for breach of the Settlement Agreement; an administrative fine for each deceptive act or practice found to have occurred; and for an order enjoining MOA all acts and practices in violation of the Consumer Sales Practices Act, the Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and the Business Opportunity Act. The attorneys for MOA have answered the complaint asking the Court to judge that the Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, the Business Opportunity Act, and the Consumer Sales Practices Act as codified in the Utah Code are unconstitutional and that the complaint be dismissed without prejudice. This case is currently pending. Need I say any more about the fradulent Mentoring of America?

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Crooked Sales Tactics

#3Consumer Suggestion

Mon, August 07, 2006

INSTILL IN YOU A SENSE OF FEAR AND URGENCY TO GET YOU TO BUY If you have been reading this site about Mentoring of America, by now you will have discovered that many people are told that John Beck is looking to work with only a "select few" individuals, in order to make more success stories for their new upcoming infomermcial. Shannon was told that, I was told that more than two years ago, as well as so many others. Here the truth about that. It's nothing more than a crooked sales tactic used to instill a sense of urgency and fear within you, so that you are more likely to make an impulse buy without research or thought. It's to get you to feel a sense of exlusivity and urgency to get you to enroll right away. To make you feel that if you don't enroll right now right away, all the available coaching slots will be taken up soon and you will have missed out. This of course is totally false. If you would have been contacted by John Beck about the coaching program 3 years ago or today, it would not have made a bit of difference. They still would give you the same BS line, telling you that they are looking to work with only a "select few" people to create new informercial testimonials. GIVING FALSE HOPES, EXPECTATIONS, PROMISES, GUARANTEES, AND LIES. Because the person who you speak with about the coaching program knows that it's unlikely that you are tape recording the call, they can and do make any type of fake promise or guarantee to you that they want in order to get you to enroll. They know that later on when you decide you want a refund, you will have no proof that any of those guarantees or promises where ever made to you by their people. It will be their word against yours. And your word means nothing to them.

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Tiffany It's NEVER too late to get a refund. I got mine even after more than 2 years.

#4Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 06, 2006

Tiffany, Thats right, it's NEVER too late to get a refund. I got my refund even after more than 2 years. You just have to know what to do about it, and who to contact. Everything that you need to know on how to get your money back from Mentoring of America, what to do, who to contact, the recent lawsuit against them, news coverage on the lawsuit, their help wanted ads used to hire their phony coaches, ect. has already been posted by myself and others on this site. Just type "Mentoring of America" in the search box of this site, and completely read several of the most recent complaints that come up at the top. All the tools are right there waiting for you to use them.

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Mentoring of America's Help Wanted Ads

#5Consumer Suggestion

Sat, August 05, 2006

This is only one of the several ads that Mentoring of America places in local Utah papers in the classified section. This is where these phony coaches come from. General Help Wanted Mentoring of America LLC Real Estate Coaching Inside Sales Hot Buyer leads / No cold calling Call: 877-704-6346 ext 4003 People are mislead into paying thousands to learn from some regular person who looked for a job in the classified ads. Certainly not "knowledgeable, professional, experienced, successfull" real estate coaches.

Tiffany

Greeley,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Help me!

#6Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 04, 2006

My S.O. tried this out and I just saw on the news about this scam. I advised him about it and we're looking into getting a refund. How would I go about doing that safely? Calling a lawyer? It's been a few months, so I think it's too late to dispute the credit card charges. Help me please, we could DEFINETLY use the money back! Thanks soooo much! (P.S - I think we paid $4000-/+ plus interest on credit cards!) Tiffany in Colorado :)

Reid

Aiea,
Hawaii,
U.S.A.

Scam No Doubt!

#7Consumer Suggestion

Wed, August 02, 2006

Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Doug did not mention Mentors Of America anywhere in his rebuttal because he is a shill. He is a leach that wants people to believe that such programs do exist. Fact of the matter is there is absolutely no such thing as legitimate "wealth building" info being sold to total strangers for less than the earning potential claimed possible. Doug, successful people DO NOT visit public message boards to post unsubstantiated claims in attempt to defend such scams. SORRY DOUG, NO ONE HERE ACTUALLY BELIEVES YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL! I MYSELF HOWEVER, OWN THE PYRAMIDS IN EGYPT. ALONG WITH THE TUNNELS WHICH CONTAIN THE BRIGHT LIGHT THAT NEAR DEATH EXPEIENCERS TRAVEL UP. LOL!!!!! GET REAL DOUGY!!!!! John Beck, Carlton Sheets, etc, etc are all scam artists and it's NOT just a matter of opinion. Someone needs to catch these product of incest maggots in empty parking lots and bump them. Take Care Everyone. Much Love and Aloha From Hawaii and God Bless.

Elaine

Thousand Oaks,
California,
U.S.A.

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

#8Consumer Suggestion

Thu, July 27, 2006

Hello, I just ran across his infomercial on CBNC, in the Southern California market at 12:00AM on 27 July 2006. I noticed that his operation seems to be out of Van Nuys, CA, which is only about 20 minutes from where I am. So, I'm wondering, has anybody located this company and actually gone there to get satisfaction? It would seem to me that if this guy is ripping people off for thousands of dollars at a time, he'd have a crowd waiting for him each morning. I'm pissed that I even wasted my time considering his offer, I'd be willing to go to wherever his business is, just to confront them. I also can't figure out why a reputable cable broadcaster like CNBC would continue to air his infomercials. Does anybody have a way to contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money so this nonsense can stop? Does anybody know who produces his informercials? We need to find out who his ad agency is and put pressure on them, too. They need to drop his account. Don't delay calling your credit card company and immediately disputing any of his charges... even the initial $39.95. That's my best advice at this point. Best,

Elaine

Thousand Oaks,
California,
U.S.A.

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

#9Consumer Suggestion

Thu, July 27, 2006

Elaine

Thousand Oaks,
California,
U.S.A.

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

#10Consumer Suggestion

Thu, July 27, 2006

Elaine

Thousand Oaks,
California,
U.S.A.

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

#11Consumer Suggestion

Thu, July 27, 2006

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

in your statement

#12Consumer Suggestion

Mon, July 24, 2006

Doug, Not once in your statement do you mention having participated in the expensive coaching from Mentoring of America LLC which happens to be the topic of discussion on this page. It makes me question why you have responded here to begin with. Your above statement has nothing to do with Mentoring of America LLC, the business who has recently been sued for the third time, has been on the news, and is under legal action by the state of Utah for continuing to violate consumer protection laws.

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

in your statement

#13Consumer Suggestion

Mon, July 24, 2006

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

in your statement

#14Consumer Suggestion

Mon, July 24, 2006

Doug

Independence,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

If Free and Clear does not work for you then you are not willing to do some work!

#15Consumer Suggestion

Mon, July 24, 2006

Hi, I am new here but I am here to defend the John Beck's Free and Clear system. Granted some of the complaints here are justified but all and all Mr. Beck does give you enough information in the books to get you started. I DID NOT read ANYTHING in the books that said this would be easy. In fact if it were any easiier EVERYONE would be getting wealthy with minimal work. I do agree that the "Property Vault" is out of date plus the fact I was not willing to pay $39.99 per month just to find properties. I am going to share with you what I got out of my 39.00 investment in the books and CD's. First let me tell you that I ordered the system almost a year ago and since then I have bought "Free and Clear" 5 high yeild properties. I live in Kansas City Missouri and just accross the river West is one of the most valuable or highly desired Counties. I literaly bought a $245,000.00 5 bedroom home then put just ubder $5,000.00 in the propertiy and since I only paied $3,340.00 to bid on and get the "Tax Lien Certificate do the math and see just how much I made on just this one property. I have just made a bid on a 30 unit apartment complex but have not found out if my bid was high enough yet. Back to the point. The system does work for anyone willing to do the research and legwork to find out when property lists come out for that County and then be present to place bids on the properties you are interested in. There are a couple of important steps or research you need to make for yourself. 1. Pick the state you want to buy property in. 2. Choose the Counties you want to buy properties in. I use the Internet to search for the most populated Counties in that state. Now does'nt it make sense that these are going to be higher valued areas? 3. This is hard to do but don't be discuraged because this is where most people give up. Make direct contact with the right officails by ether email or in most cases you are going to need to write them a letter and ask for the most recent "back tax lien" property. Also you are going to want to know the exact dates the lists are made public before the actual auctions. This way you can go see each property before the auction takes place. Each state, or county will have different ways they release property lists and when they holld auctions so you will have to be certian about this information or you are just waisting your time. I took John Beck's "Amazing Properties" to give me enough info on each state to go on. To sum up my experience I have made well over 3/4 of a million dollars of pure profit but NOBOBY did the work for me, and if you are just complainly about the Free and Clear system you are just wanting someone to hand you a step by step "easy" formula. Come on, let's get real. In live I have found 95% of the people want to be wealthy but you give them an opportunity to make money with and they will say "Gee that's too hard" and go back to their everyday mundain jobs. Only less than 5% of the people in the world are willing to do "whatever it takes" and "never give up" until you reach your goals and if you have not set any goals you are not even serious about making money at all. Having a purpouse and a plan to reach a material goal are absolutely essential. Go back and use what you have to get where you want to be. If you are NOT lazy and willing to work hard YOU WILL REAP the REWARDS! Doug Nelson Trust Real Estate Investors

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Matt from NSL, Utah. You've made a big tactical error.

#16Consumer Suggestion

Sun, July 23, 2006

Matt, Allow me to further point out your miscalculation. As Shannon pointed out, your first response on this page is one that attempts to positively uphold the value of this mentoring program as an employee of Mentoring of America. Then you repond a second time on this same page, and seem to have forgotten that your name and city will appear at the bottom of your responses. Now you state that you are an enrolling customer who was able to get a full refund due to an emergency from Mentoring of America, without any hassles what so ever. Matt, I tried to get a refund myself after only the first training call when it became obvious to me that my first coach "Michelle Mota" was not a knowledgeable professional in real estate. I did feel that the training given was as presented before the sale. I was treated in a very rude and unforgiving manner over the phone for no reason when I asked Mentoring of America for a refund. I was harshly denied, and told that there was no possible way to get a refund no matter what. Totally opposite of what I was guaranteed before I enrolled, by a "Jayder Salazar". Probably a false name. They only offered to assign me a different coach or temporarily stop the training calls, and resume at my request. Can you see why it's hard for us to believe your story Matt? It just does not hold up. Matt, I've seen several other of your responses in past complaints in which you stand up for Mentoring of America and/or John Beck. I've had my doubts about the validity your remarks, but your tactical blunder by double posting two different stories here on the same page has removed all doubt. Matt, you're free say what you want about the quality of the training calls. We can't stop you. I have my training calls recorded on tape. One coach "Dave Yates" said to me on tape that the techniques he was teaching me to do on this call, he had never done himself. That's not an experienced coach. The first coach "Michelle Mota, gave me completely incorrect advise and information regarding the purchase of forclosure properties located in my city, some on my very street. In closing, When John Beck's Mentoring of America misleads people into paying thousands of dollars on coaching for what is said to be a "successfull, knowledgeable, experienced, real estate professional", and it turns out these "coaches" are regular people who answered a help wanted ad in the paper for a job to work with real estate clients over the phone, possibly unemployed, make no more than $4K a month or $60K a year, do not work from home themselves, have probably never done real estate, follow some type of training call curriculum, refuse to honor money back guarantees, and set the price of the course anywhere between $1,500 to $15,000 or more depending on how much credit a person had available, that's fraud. Specially when the training sold is mostly public general knowledge available free to anyone online, or the local library. Matt, the very recent lawsuit against Mentoring of America has been on the news. It would probably be a good idea to start looking for another job if you do infact work for them. There's nothing good out of being involved in something like this Matt. Matt, your blunder would be almost comical if it weren't so annoying and misleading.

Shannon

Florence,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

Wow, did you get an employee discount?

#17Author of original report

Sat, July 22, 2006

Well, I am sitting here in awe. I believe that the same Matt from NSL, Utah, that just responded about how easily he received his refund from Mentoring of America is the very same Matt from NSL, Utah, who just a few rebuttals above was upholding Mentoring of America saying "All education has value".....and he stated he was an EMPLOYEE of Mentoring of America on the first rebuttal. Wow! Will he get an employee discount if he purchases the program again????......or.....is he just really still an employee of Mentoring of America trying to somehow defend them? I am really confused, but somewhat amused. Have a nice day. And....you may want to check previous rebuttals before listing a new one.

Matt

NSL,
Utah,
U.S.A.

I was refunded in full no problem

#18Consumer Comment

Fri, July 21, 2006

I am just writing to inform everyone that this company does work with people and does refund their money for those who find that this is not the right time to begin. I purchased the program because I wanted to change my life and I knew I needed to do something different to make my dreams come true. I saw the John Beck infomercial one night and ordered the initial package. After receiving this package, I was called by one of the people at John Beck's office and sold a start up business for only $7500. But just a couple of days after buying the business, my mom got really sick and I just didn't have the time or the focus to begin really working the business right now. I immediately called the company to explain my situation and found that I received my refund back in a quick and timely fashion. And I must say that everyone I spoke with over the phone were very nice and most helpful. I can hardly wait to put myself back in a position to again work with such great support team as I start working John Beck's Amazing Profits business.

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.

Mike, File a complaint form against Mentoring of America with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection

#19Consumer Suggestion

Tue, July 18, 2006

Congradulations Shannon. My story is almost identical to yours in almost every detail. It's true, they will set the price of the mentoring program based on the answers you give them on how much open credit you have, ect. That's why you see such a wide variation in prices other people have paid for the same bogus product. Some people have paid $3,000 and other over $10,000 for the same exact thing. They will sell it for what they can base on the answers you give about your credit and finance. I recently got a hand signed refund agreement letter from Mentoring of America in the mail for 100% of the cost. Mike, The person in the Utah Divison of Consumer Protection, who handled my very recent complaint against Mentoring of America, said that the state of Utah is taking legal action against Mentoring of America. Also, that legal action is being taken against John Beck in California. You need to file a consumer complaint form against Mentoring of America with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection to get your money back. Don't wait. As soon as I did this, Mentoring of America sent me a hand signed refund agreement letter in the mail for 100% of the price I paid, which was over $7,000. My story is almost identical to Shannon's. Here is the form to need to fill out. Cut and paste the link to your internet browser. http://consumerprotection.utah.gov/downloads/complaintform.pdf Print the form out, fill it out completely, and mail it in to the Utah Division of Consumer Protection immediately. Don't wait. Keep your story truthful, honest, and exactly as it happened. Record any telephone conversations you may have with any of Mentoring of America's people. Put a tracking number on the complaint form, and follow up with the Consumer Protection office after you see they have received your form in the mail. The Utah Divison of Consumer Protection's contact and mailing info is right on the complaint form itself. Mike, Do keep us posted on your progress.

Shannon

Florence,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

Contact Ao Pauga, Utah Attorney General Investigator

#20Consumer Suggestion

Mon, July 10, 2006

I'm so sorry about your problems with them as well. I had filed reports with every government agency that I could think of, and I certainly recommend contacting Ao Pauga, an investigator with the Utah Attorney General's office. You may file a claim there along with many others that have had such similiar or almost exact problems. I feel for you, and I pray that you will be refunded.

Mike

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.

I fell victum to this scam as well. ..In response to Shannon

#21Consumer Comment

Mon, July 10, 2006

Congratulations Shannon, I'm happy to see that someone with the same story as mine has gotten a refund. I fell victum to this scam as well. I'm still in the dispute process with MBNA. They informed me that the burden of proof is on the consumer to prove what was promised was not delivered. Who was your credit card company? And specifically, what type of information did you furnish them with to get your refund? My story matches yours, exactly. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Shannon

Florence,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

I have received a refund! It has been a long road.

#22Author of original report

Thu, July 06, 2006

I just wanted to update this report to let everyone know that as of June 2006, I have been told that I have been refunded my $6,499.00 investment for the mentoring program. Praise the Lord! This has been a huge "learning" experience, and I am so glad that the company has made this adjustment. I hope that they will change their ways in the future. It has been a long road. Thank you.

Tom

Palm Bay,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This guy is still not in JAIL?

#23Consumer Comment

Wed, June 07, 2006

Shannon , my heart goes out to you. Honestly, hire an attorney and go to court . The Beck institute has been INFAMOUS for backing down when legally confronted. I just came to a 'john beck' post to find Ried. Aloha ried. I was here last year when I found Ried biotching up a storm over this BUTT MUNCHER. Reid is relentless. He never gives in ?and he CARES about people who are ripped off. He is a good dude. I myself never got involved in John Beck, but i started lambasting him too on these posts as he claims you can 'make 10,000 a month' Rieds argument is why anyone would sell the secret to making that much money away for nothing instead of just making it all himself. I agreed. What a TOTAL p***k this Beck goof is. Do you know whats funny? I was making 35k a year at the time as a debt collector, coming to this site to help people get collectors off their back. I then became a MORTGAGE BROKER and started making 10k per month. No lie. What are the odds? I didnt need john beck or anyone else. So i came back to the site and told Ried about it. I told em -heres a way to make 10k a month, and its FREE. I aint gonna 'charge' anyone. So the truth is -how does john beck make 10k per month? Easy.......... SUCKER honest folks into paying him 10k a month (not) teaching them how to make 10k a month. Now its a year later. I own my own mortgage company , and i make 20k per month. You can do it too. This idea that you can 'buy real estate tax' properties and other BS cannot be true. If it were, professionals like myself and big players with billions of dollars would be buying them up and flipping them. There is no 'secret' . by the way, purchasing a time share or any other rental postage stamp actually DEPRECIATES' so dont get into that crap. John beck probably has a whole pile of HIS crap properties on his 'site' -HOPING YOU BUY THEM OFF HIM......... You sound bright to me Shannon, and have CLASS. I can tell by the way you were totally shocked at the tone of the people at John Becks. People with class arent used to KNOB GOBBLERS treating them that way. So, if reid shows up to the post, FOLLOW HIS ADVISE on how to SHOVE THIS CRAP UP JOHN BECKS a*s -and get your money back. There are hundreds of posts by Reid and a few by myself on this topic which have run the full gambit on 'contract law' with beck cronies. They lose in court every time. There was no ?value of consideration' executed by John Becks services, so his contract is void and you will get a full refund. Disclaimers written into the contract do not hold up in court. You will get a refund. God Bless.

Tom

Palm Bay,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This guy is still not in JAIL?

#24Consumer Comment

Wed, June 07, 2006

Tom

Palm Bay,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This guy is still not in JAIL?

#25Consumer Comment

Wed, June 07, 2006

Shannon

Florence,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

No matter what you do....John Beck scam...continues....

#26Consumer Suggestion

Sat, June 03, 2006

Regarding the rebuttal by the lovely John Beck employee... I averaged over 30+ hours per week in researching and doing the lessons to the best of my ability (not 5 to 10 as told by the John Beck salesmen). I was valedictorian of my class... I, my friend, am NOT a retard. The coach was NOT a trained professional. We did not use or did he have any intent to use the materials sent to me. I have even recently completed my own real estate licensing. Are you okay? Did you not read the hundreds (maybe thousands?) of complaints against this corrupt company? How can you explain the general, vague, sessions? For example, "buy a nice size lot". I was told that I would be guided hand-in-hand by a professional, and not given a 2 cent worth, 1/2 hour per week lesson by a vague so-called "teacher". No... this is not how it was represented. Also, I have read numerous complaints where the students DO change coaches, and guess what? The same old, same old. It is simply a way of delaying the person from discovering the fakeness of this endeavor and poor quality company. Furthermore, if this company is so legit, why is it being investigated in every facet of government that I have found? Hmmmm.... let us think for a moment. Do you know the FBI also has several complaints being investigated? Watch out, John Beck! Also, if the company is so great and worthy, why are they so rude and hell-bent on just keeping your money and not caring about the customer? Answer: The rudeness is a tactic. Could you answer why no one ever answers the mentoring line or calls back? Hmmmmmmm.... let us think for a moment. Face it, you can make yourself look like Mother Theresa, but you'll never make it past that "act". Maybe you could explain why the salesmen LIED and guaranteed us to make back our initial cost of the program in merely 2 months. I did stay in it that long, and we would never make back our investment in that manner. Actually, I would've dug myself in deeper and been stuck with some crappy, overpriced properties. Would you suggest I buy the mountainous land that has no utilities and fake subdivisions with no development or even a hope of development? What about a great timeshare? Do you want me to risk going to prison for selling someone some "great" land that is really a desert? I'm sorry, but I have better sense, and better values. Also, why do all the "telemarketing salesmen" say that they are only looking for 30+ people to be in this special program to make success stories for an info-mercial? Well, in reality, it looks as though there are hundreds (and maybe again....thousands) who are told the same thing and pay huge varying amounts in the thousands of dollars for the same poopy info? (Yes, I said "poopy")If they are so respectable, maybe you could tell me why they lied and continue to lie? How many salesmen do you all have calling anyway? It's a gimmick. I'm just sorry that I was so trusting and put vast amounts of hours going on and beyond my requirements each week. I don't care what you say or anyone at John Beck says, I know what has happened. I know the NIGHTMARE I have been through. As I always say...what goes around comes around. There will be a time and a place where the lies end and good times are reversed for all those associated with John Beck and his terrible company. It won't be a pretty site, but I hope I'm there to see it! Have a super-dee-duper day! P.S. I still want my money back, and even after your convincing essay.....I still want my $6,499.00 back and so do the hundreds or thousands of others. Bye!

Matt

NSL,
Utah,
U.S.A.

All Education Has Value

#27UPDATE Employee

Fri, June 02, 2006

John Beck Mentoring Institute was created to help people take John's valuable education and actually implement it into their lives. John's Amazing Profits tax lien and tax deed program teaches people how to make money buying properties at tax auction and selling them with a new market maker for a substantial profit. From the beginning John saw a number of students begin to take his program and make it a success is their lives, but he also saw a number of students who could learn the processes and who knew what to do but who could not somehow actually do the program. As is stated in the movie, "the matrix" there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. And so it is in real life. The gap between knowing what to do and actually doing it is a real barrier on most people's lives preventing them from reaching the success they could otherwise achieve. John decided to create his Mentoring Program to help people bridge this gap, break through this barrier and shatter this glass ceiling so those would were buying the program but not being successful with the program would have the resources, advice and support they needed to "walk the path." Each coach has been personally trained by John Beck so they know exactly what the student needs to do to successfully implement this profitable method of investing in real estate. If there is some personality differences between a coach and a student, the coaches have been trained to move that student to another coach that the student will feel more comfortable. In this case the student never asked for a new coach and in fact, the student only attended 1/2 of the sessions purchased showing that their commitment level and willingness to implement the program was not very high from the beginning. We want all of our students to be happy and to excel. We also want all of our students to be enriched by the education and we do our best to assure that happens. But however good we teach, the information will only be conveyed of the student is teachable and willing to learn, to expand their capacity and work to develop their business.

Alan

Minneapolis,
Minnesota,
U.S.A.

You have found the right website

#28Consumer Comment

Wed, May 31, 2006

Hello Shannon, You now know that this is a huge scam, but you are certainly not alone. Do a search on this website and look at what Reid went through with his credit card company to get his money back. It is a battle but it can be done, I know you will get all the support from the readers on this website who have gone through the same thing. Hopefully Reid will chime in on your report and offer assistance, he knows these creeps. And one more thing they have a fake collections company that will attack if you do get your credit card company to give you your money back so be prepared. This beck creep will stop at nothing to get your money because the whole group are Sociopaths with no consience at all, as you found out. Best of luck, prepare for battle it can and has been won.

Reports & Rebuttal

Complaint Review: John Beck Mentoring Institute - Mentoring Of America - John Beck's Financial Freedom - American Fork Utah

*Consumer Comment: You have found the right website

*UPDATE Employee: All Education Has Value

*Consumer Suggestion: No matter what you do....John Beck scam...continues....

*Consumer Comment: This guy is still not in JAIL?

*Consumer Comment: This guy is still not in JAIL?

*Consumer Comment: This guy is still not in JAIL?

*Author of original report: I have received a refund! It has been a long road.

*Consumer Comment: I fell victum to this scam as well. ..In response to Shannon

*Consumer Suggestion: Contact Ao Pauga, Utah Attorney General Investigator

*Consumer Suggestion: Mike, File a complaint form against Mentoring of America with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection

*Consumer Comment: I was refunded in full no problem

*Author of original report: Wow, did you get an employee discount?

*Consumer Suggestion: Matt from NSL, Utah. You've made a big tactical error.

*Consumer Suggestion: If Free and Clear does not work for you then you are not willing to do some work!

*Consumer Suggestion: in your statement

*Consumer Suggestion: in your statement

*Consumer Suggestion: in your statement

*Consumer Suggestion: Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

*Consumer Suggestion: Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

*Consumer Suggestion: Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

*Consumer Suggestion: Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

*Consumer Suggestion: Scam No Doubt!

*Consumer Suggestion: Help me!

*Consumer Suggestion: Mentoring of America's Help Wanted Ads

*Consumer Suggestion: Tiffany It's NEVER too late to get a refund. I got mine even after more than 2 years.

*Consumer Suggestion: Crooked Sales Tactics

*Consumer Suggestion: Legal Action Taken by the State of Utah against Mentoring of America

27 Updates & Rebuttals

Legal Action Taken by the State of Utah against Mentoring of America

Crooked Sales Tactics

Tiffany It's NEVER too late to get a refund. I got mine even after more than 2 years.

Mentoring of America's Help Wanted Ads

Help me!

Scam No Doubt!

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

Does anybody know where John Beck et al are physically? ..contact the broadcast companies that run his informercials, in order to put pressure on them to stop accepting his blood-money

in your statement

in your statement

in your statement

If Free and Clear does not work for you then you are not willing to do some work!

Matt from NSL, Utah. You've made a big tactical error.

Wow, did you get an employee discount?

I was refunded in full no problem

Mike, File a complaint form against Mentoring of America with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection

Contact Ao Pauga, Utah Attorney General Investigator

I fell victum to this scam as well. ..In response to Shannon

I have received a refund! It has been a long road.

This guy is still not in JAIL?

This guy is still not in JAIL?

This guy is still not in JAIL?

No matter what you do....John Beck scam...continues....

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