Reid
Aiea,#2Consumer Suggestion
Sat, March 26, 2005
Hey there Paul, along with Everyone else, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. What you've stated Paul is absolutely correct. Foreclosures, and government tax leins are very real. These properties however, are very difficult for beginners to obtain. Next to impossible for beginners, considering the many seasoned professionals in the field, your father included. If making money were as easy as John Beck (corrupt attorney) claims, he would definitely have nothing to gain by sharing his strategies with the entire world. I wish you Paul, and your father, continued success, happiness and prosperity. It's great knowing, that there still exists honest people who are not afraid to speak the truth. Until next time, take care Paul along with Everyone else cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, March 26, 2005
Hey there Paul, along with Everyone else, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. What you've stated Paul is absolutely correct. Foreclosures, and government tax leins are very real. These properties however, are very difficult for beginners to obtain. Next to impossible for beginners, considering the many seasoned professionals in the field, your father included. If making money were as easy as John Beck (corrupt attorney) claims, he would definitely have nothing to gain by sharing his strategies with the entire world. I wish you Paul, and your father, continued success, happiness and prosperity. It's great knowing, that there still exists honest people who are not afraid to speak the truth. Until next time, take care Paul along with Everyone else cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#4Consumer Suggestion
Sat, March 26, 2005
Hey there Paul, along with Everyone else, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. What you've stated Paul is absolutely correct. Foreclosures, and government tax leins are very real. These properties however, are very difficult for beginners to obtain. Next to impossible for beginners, considering the many seasoned professionals in the field, your father included. If making money were as easy as John Beck (corrupt attorney) claims, he would definitely have nothing to gain by sharing his strategies with the entire world. I wish you Paul, and your father, continued success, happiness and prosperity. It's great knowing, that there still exists honest people who are not afraid to speak the truth. Until next time, take care Paul along with Everyone else cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Paul
Tulsa,#5Consumer Comment
Fri, March 25, 2005
I totally agree the John Beck stuff is fake or fake enough to not be trusted. And I hope that those who sucumbed to buying into it have or are being able to get their money or life back after being the succee. Having said that however, while I am not supporint Johnbeck or his ilk. The concepts of taxsales (auctions) are legit. My own father bought and sold a few houses in his life precisely due to tax sales. Often he would use taxdeals as a quickturnaround cash, while he would assume loans for real rental properties. Rarely was a taxdeal a keeper (Only 1 in 15 years for him, and I live in that keeper currently). Point being, tax sale methods are legit, but are a bit more difficult than JohnBeck leads one to beleive. Plus they are more often tax auctions than sales. Point is, it can be done, but is not free&clear and easy, unless you already have resources to handle the possibilities. There is no such thing (at least locally) as a tax sale (only auctions), though federally there might be. Besides at most auctions there are pros ready to plunk down multiple thousands site unseen for the property, and sometimes will have the property sold before they even walk out of the auction. (thats true of almost all auctions anyway, or so I think).
Reid
Aiea,#6Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 23, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: EPN is without question a fraudulent collection agency. Disregard any and all letters from this bogus collection agency. Letters from this fraudulent collection agency are just attempts to intimidate and illegally obtain monies from victims of scams. If you've recently had charges reversed in your favor, there's only one reason for it. It's because the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute was totally unable to prove the legitimacy of the garbage they're shoveling. EPN is a scam in that they attempt to collect on debts which were already proven fraudulent and no longer exists. It was your credit card company which have taken their money back from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, not you, so you have absolutely nothing to worry about in this situation. As I've stated earlier, just a weak attempt of intimidation. EPN also randomly select their victims??? If you're ever contacted by someone from this fraudulent collection agency, notify them, that they are to discontinue all contact. Failure to meet this request will result in immediate law enforcement action. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#7Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 23, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: EPN is without question a fraudulent collection agency. Disregard any and all letters from this bogus collection agency. Letters from this fraudulent collection agency are just attempts to intimidate and illegally obtain monies from victims of scams. If you've recently had charges reversed in your favor, there's only one reason for it. It's because the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute was totally unable to prove the legitimacy of the garbage they're shoveling. EPN is a scam in that they attempt to collect on debts which were already proven fraudulent and no longer exists. It was your credit card company which have taken their money back from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, not you, so you have absolutely nothing to worry about in this situation. As I've stated earlier, just a weak attempt of intimidation. EPN also randomly select their victims??? If you're ever contacted by someone from this fraudulent collection agency, notify them, that they are to discontinue all contact. Failure to meet this request will result in immediate law enforcement action. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#8Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 23, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: EPN is without question a fraudulent collection agency. Disregard any and all letters from this bogus collection agency. Letters from this fraudulent collection agency are just attempts to intimidate and illegally obtain monies from victims of scams. If you've recently had charges reversed in your favor, there's only one reason for it. It's because the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute was totally unable to prove the legitimacy of the garbage they're shoveling. EPN is a scam in that they attempt to collect on debts which were already proven fraudulent and no longer exists. It was your credit card company which have taken their money back from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, not you, so you have absolutely nothing to worry about in this situation. As I've stated earlier, just a weak attempt of intimidation. EPN also randomly select their victims??? If you're ever contacted by someone from this fraudulent collection agency, notify them, that they are to discontinue all contact. Failure to meet this request will result in immediate law enforcement action. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#9Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 23, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: EPN is without question a fraudulent collection agency. Disregard any and all letters from this bogus collection agency. Letters from this fraudulent collection agency are just attempts to intimidate and illegally obtain monies from victims of scams. If you've recently had charges reversed in your favor, there's only one reason for it. It's because the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute was totally unable to prove the legitimacy of the garbage they're shoveling. EPN is a scam in that they attempt to collect on debts which were already proven fraudulent and no longer exists. It was your credit card company which have taken their money back from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, not you, so you have absolutely nothing to worry about in this situation. As I've stated earlier, just a weak attempt of intimidation. EPN also randomly select their victims??? If you're ever contacted by someone from this fraudulent collection agency, notify them, that they are to discontinue all contact. Failure to meet this request will result in immediate law enforcement action. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#10Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 23, 2005
Hey there Manjunath, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Contact EPN and tell them, that Reid said to shove it! EPN is a fraudulent collection agency. Once you've successfully obtained a refund from your credit card company it's over. There's no longer a debt to be paid. The debt is immediately erased. The fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute had it's chances to prove it's side during the dispute process, but obviously failed miserably in doing so. Explain to EPN, that they are to cease all contact with you. Notify this fraudulent collection agency, that any further contact attempt will be met with harassment complaints to the Federal Nuisance Bureau, FBI, FTC and all other govenment law enforcement agencies. The John Beck Mentoring Institute is a scam and so is their fraudulent collection agency EPN. It's your credit card company, that simply took their money back from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, not you, so you don't have a single thing to worry about EPN. Where's my letter EPN? I'm waiting for my letter!!! LOL at the many result of incest beings. Until next time, take care Manjunath cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Manjunath
Dallas,#11Author of original report
Tue, March 22, 2005
Hi there!! After a long dispute finally my credit card company gave me credit and now after couple of months today I'm getting a letter from EPN saying I owe some money like..$1022.5 ($22.5 as interest charges). As I told you guys before I never enrolled their sessions nor did I even open their packages. I still have those packages.So I'm thinking thats why they wanted to charge me $1000 bucks instead of $4000 as they initially cheated me with. Can anybody out there can give me some advice on what can I do? and how do i respond EPN and get them out of my life. Thanks.
Manjunath
Dallas,#12Author of original report
Tue, March 22, 2005
Hi there!! After a long dispute finally my credit card company gave me credit and now after couple of months today I'm getting a letter from EPN saying I owe some money like..$1022.5 ($22.5 as interest charges). As I told you guys before I never enrolled their sessions nor did I even open their packages. I still have those packages.So I'm thinking thats why they wanted to charge me $1000 bucks instead of $4000 as they initially cheated me with. Can anybody out there can give me some advice on what can I do? and how do i respond EPN and get them out of my life. Thanks.
Manjunath
Dallas,#13Author of original report
Tue, March 22, 2005
Hi there!! After a long dispute finally my credit card company gave me credit and now after couple of months today I'm getting a letter from EPN saying I owe some money like..$1022.5 ($22.5 as interest charges). As I told you guys before I never enrolled their sessions nor did I even open their packages. I still have those packages.So I'm thinking thats why they wanted to charge me $1000 bucks instead of $4000 as they initially cheated me with. Can anybody out there can give me some advice on what can I do? and how do i respond EPN and get them out of my life. Thanks.
Manjunath
Dallas,#14Author of original report
Fri, December 17, 2004
Hello everyone! After a couple of months, my credit card company has given me credit after I Disputed the charges made by John Beck. I have been following other victims situations and now I'm wondering If I'll be contacted by the collection agency or not. Let me tell you clearly that.. I have not signed any contract, not scheduled any sessions and have never even opened the mails which they say confidential information enclosed(books).I figured I'd be in advantage if i did not open them. Now that my bank has given me credit back, I'm wondering if those collection agencies come after me. I'd appreciate if any of you give me some advice. Thanks,
Manjunath
Dallas,#15Author of original report
Fri, December 17, 2004
Hello everyone! After a couple of months, my credit card company has given me credit after I Disputed the charges made by John Beck. I have been following other victims situations and now I'm wondering If I'll be contacted by the collection agency or not. Let me tell you clearly that.. I have not signed any contract, not scheduled any sessions and have never even opened the mails which they say confidential information enclosed(books).I figured I'd be in advantage if i did not open them. Now that my bank has given me credit back, I'm wondering if those collection agencies come after me. I'd appreciate if any of you give me some advice. Thanks,
Manjunath
Dallas,#16Author of original report
Fri, December 17, 2004
Hello everyone! After a couple of months, my credit card company has given me credit after I Disputed the charges made by John Beck. I have been following other victims situations and now I'm wondering If I'll be contacted by the collection agency or not. Let me tell you clearly that.. I have not signed any contract, not scheduled any sessions and have never even opened the mails which they say confidential information enclosed(books).I figured I'd be in advantage if i did not open them. Now that my bank has given me credit back, I'm wondering if those collection agencies come after me. I'd appreciate if any of you give me some advice. Thanks,
Reid
Aiea,#17Consumer Suggestion
Sat, October 09, 2004
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. What's the difference between John Beck's materials and a bucket of $h!t you ask? ANSWER: The Bucket! John Beck's fraudulent program's cost whatever one's available line of credit may be. Awesome huh? I only wish the cost of world class exotic automobiles were determined using the same method. LOL SCAMS, no question about it. Until next time, take care Everone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. P.S. $9.8 million!
Manjunath
Dallas,#18Consumer Suggestion
Fri, October 08, 2004
Hello there!! Thanks for your responses. I did call the credit card company and notify on Monday early morning and filed a fraudulant charges. I called up credit card company today (07/oct/04) again and the lady who answered the phone first said that there has been charges made to my account on Wednesday (i,e. John Becks program did take my money on Wednesday). So, I insisted her to transfer me to credit card security service to file a dispute charges, and the guy over there said my account has been marked for fraudulant inquiry and also said I wont be charged and I would be sent an Affidavit to sign. Since, my account is frozen, he said it would take 14 days after making first conversation( 4/oct/04) to get the papers. Then I asked him for Federal Regulation E form, he said I wont be needing it, as my account wont be charged. I'm confused one say I have been charged and the other say I wont be charged. So, Should I wait untill 20/oct/04 to see what I get and then take it from there?? or do you suggest me to follow up in anyother manner. Is calling card company and asking them to freeze a account based on fraudulant charges itself is a complaint for disputed charges or I need to ask them specifically for a disputed charges report? Now that credit card company is talking favourably without even me filing a Federal Regulation E form ...is that a good sign? Thanks in advance for any responses.
Reid
Aiea,#19Consumer Suggestion
Fri, October 08, 2004
Hey there Everyone, WARNING: The John Beck Free and Clear program, Amazing Profit's, Mentoring Institute and all of his seminars, which is used only to promote his materials and "workshops" are all scams. Lure and trap schemes, designed to obtain consumer's credit card information, in hopes to trap them into contracts heavily filled with clauses. Infomercials, opportunity magazines, Internet, newspaper classifieds, and "free seminars" are only a few places, where fraudulent businesses often do their fishing. Just a few things to be skeptical over. 1. Infomercials with HIDDEN (fine) print. FULL DISCLOSURE is absolutely necessary. 2. "Free seminars" that are not so "free". Be leary of any and all seminars, that attempt to sell you on their program. Be sure to attend these, only for the "free" meals and gift. Be the fish, that "takes the bait", but does not get caught. LOL. 3. NEVER give out credit card information over the phone to any business! Legitimate businesses send out legal contracts containing FULL DISCLOSURE of said products and or services. 4. If anyone from any business ever requests to have the an agreement recorded, imediately hang up the phone. Chances are enormous that all they're trying to do, is snake out your credit card info. 5. Be leary of ALL businesses, that attempt to use their BBB memberships as an endorsement of their products or services. BBB memberships are paid for and not earned, therefore, means and proves absolutely nothing about a particular business. Why they are still in business is beyond me. By following these five steps alone, one should be a tad more safe from the likes of John Beck, Carlton (full of sheet) Sheets, William (jail bird, bend over buddy) Mckorkle, and all the other dirt bags, that will eventually rot in hell. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#20Consumer Suggestion
Thu, October 07, 2004
Hey there Manjunath, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. If you haven't yet participated in any "mentoring" sessions, I strongly suggest that you don't schedule any appointments. If you already have, discontinue all "mentoring" sessions immediately, for the longer you wait, the more difficult obtaining a refund will become. It's very imparative, that you DO NOT sign any contract(s)from this fraudulent company. I have signed their contract, but was able to prove, that the John Beck Free and Clear program along with their "mentoring" are nothing but DODO. Make it absolutely clear to your "coach" and the company itself, that they are to immediately discontinue all contact. Any attempts to contact you will result in fines imposed by the nuisance bureau. Next, type out your entire experience in full detail (take your time) and save a copy in the draft section of your email account. This will make it really easy to copy and paste it everywhere. Email a copy of your experience to every government and law enforcement agency imaginable. FBI, Consumer Protection, FTC, etc, etc. Send one email to each and every agency about once or twice a week. This fraudulent company went as far as to literally beg my credit card company to reverse the charges in their favor, just because I have signed their contract agreeing to their bogus "mentoring". F%ck that $h!t! So what if I've agreed to all of their fraudulent sales pitches? I have not once denied agreeing to what they were not able to live up to. Whether I signed their contract or not, was totally irrelevant to my dispute. Immediately contact your credit card company and let them know, that you would be interested in disputing the charges (quality of service). Also, do follow the EDitors suggestions, on how to get your money back. Your credit card company is "supposedely" on your side, even though they insist on allowing charges which they know are fraudulent to go through. You're definitely not the first, or only person, that has been duped by the "mentoring" scam and you definitely wont be the last, as long as the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Imbreeds and all the other so called "mentoring" programs are allowed to air their scam Infomercials. What ever happens, do not panic! Bottom line is, the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute DOES NOT have your money yet. If anything, they have your credit cards money. LOL. Upon contacting your credit card company, notify the person in charge, that it's entirely up to them, whether or not to allow the payment to go through, and that you will not be held responsible for the charges, should they decide to do so. The ball is entirely in their court! Let them know, that you refuse to pay for what you've already determined through research, is a scam. Until next time, take care cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. P.S. I will be around to answer any and all of your questions and help you through this. Keep in contact through the rebuttal box. I will respond to your postings as soon as time permits.