Hi. I was working as a Mary Kay consultant and recieved an email from a woman named Kathrine Dyle interested in purchasing some product. I followed up, asked her what she was interested in. There were a few strange things that occured during this initial process, she requested an address NOT a P.O. Box, which I gave her, and seemed disinterested in product specifics, like normal or oily skin type, etc.. In addition, she claimed to be from New Jersey, several states away from me, and was not deterred from purchasing product from me, even after I suggested she find a local consultant. She was also unconcerend with shipping costs, given that I was charging quite a bit for shipping from Mary Kay to myself and myself to her.
Finally, she sends me an email that says a check is in the mail. A few days later I then recieve another email that there's been an accident (while driving to Georgia) and she's barely alive and something about her father's health, in addition, I've been overpayed and she doesn't know if she can trust me. I then began communicating with "kathrine's sister" who never gave me a name and was contacting me from the same email address. Kathrine's sister informs me that she "had a broken legs" (far cry from lucky to be alive), and explains to me the situation with the check.
The last email I recieved was sent on the day that the tracking information said I should recieve the check. It was cold in comparison to the other emails. The last email informed me that I was to send the remainder of the money via western union (to be made out to cash instantly), and keep the money for the products.
A day after I recieved this last email I wrote another email in which I said I'd spoken to my national sales director and due to company policy I would be unable to send them the remaning funds, they'd have to cancel the check or I could mail it back. I heard nothing back from anyone after sending this.
What made me think it was legit even though something seemed off was that Kathrine seemed insistant upon getting her products.
Below are all of the emails I sent and recieved to Kathrine Dyle. The last email is first, so to read them in cronological order, you need to scroll all the way to the bottom.
Hello,
I am sending this mail on behalf of my big sister ( Kathrine Dyle ) who had a broken legs as a result of the accident she had on her way to see her father who died from heart attack and lying down in the hospital receiving treatment, in regarding the payment of the items she purchased from you for her daughter's birthday. The payment has been mail out to you and it will be deliver to you by USPS, so this is the (Tracking # *** ) of the payment. So please kindly get back to us once you have receive the payment in order to give you the Doctor's information where you will send the remaining funds to for her treatment and bills after you might have deducted your amount for the products. I await your reply ASAP..
Thanks and Best Regards,
c/o Kathrine Dyle
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: OMG, Get back to me ASAPKatherine-I'm a bit confused. As I understand it you over payed me and after I deduct the cost of the products you'd like me to mail the remainder to your doctor?I'm so sorry to hear about your accident.Your money is safe with me.Hello,
First and foremost, I want to apologize for just getting back to you. i just want to let you know that i had an auto accident when trying to rush to GA when i had that my dad just died and was admitted into the hospital and i have been transferred to my daughter's hospital for proper treatment. It was only by the grace of God that i am still alive now. I just want to update you that i have a good news for you regarding the payment. I had just read from my debtor that the payment has been issued out to you and that you will be receiving it soon. But there is a big problem, cos she informed me that she sent out the whole amount she was owing me instead of her to just send you the amount for the products i am ordering from you,i was so mad at her when i heard this cos i don't know if my money will be safe with you when you got it.I wanted her to send the remaining of the funds to my Doctor for my medications and bills.... I just don't know what to do cos i am totally confused, please .. may i know if my money will be safe with you when you get the payment and will I be able to get the remaining of my money after you might have deducted your amount for the products?.... Because I need you to have the remaining money sent to the Doctor as soon as you receive the payment...
Kindly email me back as soon as you receive this email..
Thank You and God bless you,
Kathrine Dyle
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Mary Kay orderYou can mail a check or cash to my office:***'s Mary KayAddressCity, State, ZipAlso, please provide me with the fulladdress of where you'd like your products shipped.Thanks!Hello,Thanks for the reply but i will like you to mail me your full name, address (not PO box), Zip code/state in order to facilitate the payment to you in timely mannerRegards,Kathrine
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Mary Kay orderYour total with the additional night cream is $298.96.I want addition night cream, miracle formula combination/oily and scent satin hands( peach ). so what will be the total cost with tax and shippingRegards,Kathrine
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Mary Kay orderThe set with day solution also includes the night cream. Did you want an additional night cream, since that was on your list separately?Your total with tax and shipping is $266.27.This is without an additional night cream.Here's the breakdown:$226.00 subtotal in productsPlus New Jersey sales tax of 8.97%Your total with tax is: $246.27I'm charging $10 for shipping cost of Mary Kay to myself and another $10 to ship it to you.Also please let me know which miracle formula you'd like: dry/normal or combination/oily.And which scent satin hands: unscented or peach.Thanks!I will be purchasing the set that includes the day solution and the price is okay by me.Thanks and best regards,Kathrine
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: Mary Kay orderActually, in regards to the miracle set. Did you mean the cleanser and moisturizer (which would be purchased individually- not as a set)? Or the complete set which includes the day solution and night cream?Purchasing only the cleanser, moisturizer, and night cream would be: $70.00Purchasing the set that includes the day solution would be: $90.00Let me know, ASAP.Thanks!Hello,
You can add more money for the shipment, so if you are still interested in selling the items for me then get back to me asap.
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mary Kay orderMary Kay will ship the items to me and then I can ship them to you, which will be costly.While I appreciate your business you may want to find a consultant closer to home. If you go to Mary Kay.com and enter your location, you will come up with a list of consultants in New Jersey, some consultants keep product on-hand as to bypass the 7 to 10 day wait, and then you won't have to pay the additional shipping for me to ship it from *** to NJ, since I can't ship directly to customers.Hello,
Thanks for the reply and my location where the item will be ship is Cherry Hill, NJ 08002, so i will like you to figure out the tax and total cost of the items cos i will be making the payment with a check, after which the you will then ship my items for me.So i awaits your reply with your full name, address, zip code, city and state in order to mail out the payment in timely manner.
Regards,
Kathrine
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To: Kathrine Dyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Mary KayOk great! Where are you located, as this will figure into how I calculate tax.For payment methods I can accept cash or a check.Just to let you know, it will take 7-10 days for me to get them. I'll place your order as soon as I receive payment. How would you like to pay?Hello,
Thanks for the reply but I will like to purchase this items for my daughter's birthday from you and i will like to know if you have them cos i will be preferring you rendering the service for me. This are my order.....
1.Passion fruit shower gel.
2.Passion fruit lotion.
3.Domain.
4.MK High Intensity
5.Miracle Set
6.Night Solution.
7.Satin Hands.
So get back to me with the total cost of the items ASAP,
Regards,
Kathrine
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To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Mary Kay
Hi Katherine,
I received your text messages. What product/ products are you interested in?
Also, when do you need them by?