Dan
Whittier,#2Author of original report
Tue, April 03, 2007
I know how to replace rotors and shoes and have done it many times. You are missing the point. This vehicle is too heavy for the current size rotors and therefore the energy displaced as heat while stopping is too much for the rotors. When they are replaced (Now on my 6th set) they just overheat and warp again in about 5K miles. I change the rotors more other than the oil. I am starting a site for people to post KIA related problems and going to sit in front of the dealership trying to get the attention of Kia Corporate. These are several others with the same problem. Kia has modified parts, but they are still not lasting. They need to address the problem and not just replace the wearing parts. Try a GOOGLE search under Kia Sucks or Kia brake problems and you will find some lawsuits listed and many similar complaints. Sincerely,
Marc
Makaha,#3Consumer Comment
Mon, April 02, 2007
Rotors and pads are relatively inexpensive to replace, and I'm sure Napa and a decent mechanic can solve your problem.
John
Goshen,#4Consumer Suggestion
Mon, March 26, 2007
You might want to check to see if there is a lawyer in your area who specializes in automotive Lemon Law cases and would be willing to give you some "free" advise on whether or not you have a case. You will probably need all your records. It might be worth the phone call!
Dan
Whittier,#5Author of original report
Sat, March 24, 2007
I assure you, both me and my wife drive with one foot. Don't forget the representative from Kia Motors also admitted this problems exists (The problem of warping rotors). The dealer told us not to drive over 60 mph. Turn off overdrive as you will go faster with it on. Always downshift your automatic transmission when going down a hill and NEVER pull a trailer as the brakes cannot handle it. This Kia sucks and they know it. This van is rated for a trailer not weighing more than 3,500 lbs (Page 5-16 of owners manual) and if it weighs more than 1,250 lbs then it needs its own brakes (Page 5-19) This vehicle has a trailer hitch as well. However, the dealer stated to never pull anything as the brakes cannot handle it. Kia is aware of the problem and they will not noting about it b/c they are afraid of making a recall. There service sucks and I personally know several other families with the same van and the exact same problem. We are going to be sitting outside our local dealership promoting our website and giving out lemonade trying to get some help. We would really love someone who could get their attention. We did not buy a van to replace the brakes more that the oil.
Lee Ving
San Francisco,#6Consumer Comment
Sat, March 24, 2007
The dealership probably told you to budget $300 a month for brakes until you learn how to drive. I understand that KIA is a cheap piece of crap, but I highly doubt it's this crappy. You may want to check your feet as you may be subconsciously putting your foot on the brake because you're afraid of going over 40 miles an hour in a glorified Go-Kart. Do helmets come with KIAs?
Dan
Whittier,#7Author of original report
Fri, March 23, 2007
Okay, if I rode the brakes, I could understand this... However, I have three other vehicles w/o the problem. I do not ride brakes. I drive with one foot. I did learn the right way.... 1995 Toyota Corolla 130K miles - 1 set brakes 1995 Buick Century 85K miles - Original brakes 2001 KIA Sportage 71K miles - Original brakes 2005 Kia Sedona 31K miles - Need 6th set now Maybe this is due to the FACT that the 05 Kia Sedona is the heaviest mini-van on the road by over 400 lbs. They used the exact same brakes that they used in their smaller cars. When the brakes are applied, forward momentum is dissipated as HEAT. If the rotors are undersized for the vehicle, they will heat up and WARP. KIA admits this problem exists in areas with terrain or stop-and-go traffic. Since it does not effect everyone, they will do nothing but sell us more parts and repairs to the tune of $700 a pop. I would accept your story more if all of the 05 Sedona owners I knew did not have the same problems. They do. The brakes are not appropriate for the vehicle. I'm starting a site at (((ROR REDACTED LINK FOR SECURITY PURPOSES)))for people to post messages and comments. I'm hoping to get the attention of KIA corporate and possibly stop other from buying form a company that will kindly take your $20,000 and not stand behind their product. Right now the dealership has just told me to budget (about $300 a month) for brake replacement. Never mind the payment on top of that....! Please contact me at (((ROR REDACTED E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR SECURITY PURPOSES)))so I can include your comments and/or place them on the site at (((ROR REDACTED LINK FOR SECURITY PURPOSES))) Thanks, CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Lennox
Catonsville,#8Consumer Comment
Fri, March 23, 2007
I have a Kia Sedona 2005. I have the same problem with the brakes. They fixed it once and then I was on my own. It's time for a class action law suit on this company. They are just ripping people off!! Anylawyer interested in starting this, let me know. there are plenty of people out there that are beind screwed.
Robert
Jacksonville,#9Consumer Comment
Wed, March 21, 2007
It's very common actually. I know of many people who have the same problem with any car they drive, not just a KIA. They ALL stop by applying the brake with their left foot. Get it. you are riding the brake. It will not make you stop faster. In fact, the accelerator will overpower the brake in a panic stop, and you will just keep going. Look at the issue...front rotors warping, and pads wearing out rapidly. The rotors ONLY warp because of excessive heat. The pads wear out because they are being applied constantly. KIA knows this. They are tring to be diplomatic. Apparently, you are not uncivilized in your dealings with them. They appreciate it. Nobody wants to hear they ride the brakes. I have customers with this issue drive, while I sit in the passenger seat. They get very careful about that left foot for a while, but habits don't die easily. After about 15 minutes, it ends up on the pedal. I'm right there with my cell phone, taking pics the whole time. They don't even notice. All I do is make a "buzz" sound when they do it, and they take it off. After about 30 minutes of tooling around town, we go back to the shop, and I download the pics onto the computer so they can see what they do. None of them can believe what they see. They don't even know they do it. Someone taught them how to drive the WRONG way, and they never change...at least until it really starts costing them. My Dad was the same way. New brakes every year, while the rest of us would go 4 or more. Then he got a stick-shift. That gave him a 3rd pedal to ride. New clutches really got expensive. It took him 30 years to break the habit.