Complaint Review: KinderCare - Beaverton Oregon

Since you don't like when I copy and paste, please reference my posting from 8/10/2007 where I tell you what website I got my information followed by direct quotes from those websited. Since ROR doesn't allow links to be posted, simply google the websites I mention and look up allerigc reaction and allergic reactions to bee stings. That's how I did it. I searched, found what I thought to be reliable sources of information to back up my claim (WebMd, National Institute of Health, and University of Maryland) As for the woman who is blasting me for not liking single moms and automatically thinking I am a "deadbeat dad"...the jokes on you, it was a WOMAN that posted that, not me. Take a look at the header info before posting, it says MARGARET, NOT MIKE.

How does he know she wasn't married and widowed because her husband was killed in Iraq?? Or some similar situation?? I think he may be some guy that is having to shell out $600 a month in child support to a "teen" mother because of the very "mistake" he is griping about here. It really gets under my skin when people b***h about things they don't know about. (I give her praise for getting and keeping a job with kids at her age!) I have had to have all 3 of my kids in daycare at one time or another, I live in the same state as my family, but for one reason or another, usually distance, they weren't able to provide day or evening care for my children. Also, my kids aren't my parents to raise, they're MY responsibility!! So, if I have to work to pay the bills, and I am divorced from a guy that CHOSE to beat on me, then I WILL have them in daycare!! It is not always matter of lifestyle, it is sometimes a matter of safety.

SHOW me your soures NOW YOU LIER mike

What I posted was three separate individual medical websites including the University of Maryland, it's not "something I read on the internet", like a conspiracy website. I made a claim and backed it up with verifiable sources readily available to all. Someone saying "my aunts a nurse and they said.." without proof is NOT a verifiable quote. For the love of god, allergies aren't genetic? Seriously, come on. I don't care anymore, if you want to believe that you can't have an allergic reaction the first time bitten and alleriges aren't genetic, I don't care.

You've provided NO proof. Quoting things you've read on the internet is NOT proof. What the medical professionals were trying to tell you, is that you don't know how to comprehend the medical references you've quoted correctly. If you think quoting the internet is proof, then the medical professionals provided proof as well (they quoted them too), but they were able to interpret them correctly. that's all:)

Mitchell (another name to add to the growing list: Glenn, Holly, Amanda, Michelle, Sunny, Mitchell, Mike [michelles mechanic boyfriend]) I have provided the following proof of my claims from the following three websites which can be verified: From WebMD 'An allergic reaction to the sting occurs when your body's immune system overreacts to substances called allergens that are in the venom of stinging insects. You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening.' From the National Institute of Health Website 'While first-time exposure may only produce a mild reaction, repeated exposures may lead to more serious reactions. Once a person is sensitized (has had a previous sensitivity reaction), even a very limited exposure to a very small amount of allergen can trigger a severe reaction.' University of Maryland Medical Center: 'While first-time exposure may only produce a mild reaction, repeated exposures may lead to more serious reactions.' 'Many allergic reactions are mild and can be treated at home, while others can be severe and life-threatening. They often occur more frequently in people with a family history of allergies ' So there is three independent sources that claim you CAN have an allergic reaction the first time bitten, as well as proving that allergies are genetic. As far as the names you've called me in your post, Please stop, you're embarrasing yourselves. As far as spell checking goes, take a look at all the previous posts by Sunny/Glenn/Holly (or whoever they are today). It's like reading a book written by a 1st grader

If you had been a more responsible teen you would not be a teen mother. You should have taken proper precautions while you were enjoying your moments of pleasure. Then you would be doing the right thing, educating yourself, partying, traveling, and living life. I am totally for having children but only when you become an adult and make someting of yourself then either you or your husband could get a job opposite shift of each other and you would not have to be running to a stupid overpriced daycare center. As far as I am concerned, these daytime institutions should be put out of business!

Until you can PROVE you are smarter then a nurse you are just posting for no reason. It might help your case mike if you would scan some proof. Copy and paste is not proof. It would also help if you would use your own words, dont you have spell check? You pretty much call everybody a lier, which is rude and crude dude. You are all about proof, you only ASSUME that people are liers thats not proof. Mike you are a legend in your own mind. Hey, cure troll you use the same words as the OP to turn your words around, as if you are a skeptic really looking for the truth to try to get others to agree with him. The oldest trick in the game. AS FAR AS being bitten BY A BEE, worry more about the human bite it is far worse. Take your child out of that place before its too late. I AM GLENN'S BROTHER-IN-LAW, LITTLE MAN. in america a man is innocent till MIKE PROVES YOU GUILTY. Stop calling EVERYONE A lier AND PROVE IT, MICHELL

Look Sunny, you and your brood have no credibility left at all, so why are you here? But I will respond to your post: "Its not ok NOW the real reason I am writing Mike who finds the need to write on reports, copy and paste is all he really does." **Thanks for letting us know you have no reason to be here but to talka bout me. I feel special. As for copying and pasting, I find it easier to rebut posts directly quoting the post and responding to that piece specifically "He will never admit when he is wrong, Mike the NURSE IS CORRECT YOU ARE NOT. GET IT!" **I have provided not only personal experience and first hand knowledge, but medical definitions and opinions from no less than THREE websites including the University of Maryland Medical Dept. If I am wrong, please point me to where I am and I will be willing to concede I am. However, everyone here who tells me I am wrong provides no proof besides personal relative "telling them", while I provide backup. "You are the reason we received a settlement on are ROR because you never SHUT-UP. Because of your stupid question over 100 times keeping us in the spotlight. They did not like my response's to you." **Two things on this point, one you claim to be Glenns sister in law, yet refer to it as "we" got a settlement, proving to me once again you are Glenn or his wife posing as someone else (yet again) And two, your court case was dismissed without a judgement in your favor, so I'd love to see the name on the settlement paperwork, as would the rep from TiresPlus and the rep from Firestone since no company would give you a settlement based on ROR after your case was tossed SIX MONTHS AGO "Why do use ror repost to vent your anger? You show no dipolomacy when you write.Always irate. Do you have the ability to express yourself without personally attacking everyone?" **I'm irate? I personally attacked someone in this thread? Besides telling them that they are wrong, which is not a personal attack, I have done no such thing in this thread. I've called you and your family liars on the other two threads, but I've proven that, so it's not an attack

This is about a daycare that are not watching the children. I watched you all bicker about a bee sting. The child is being bitten and you all blow it off like it is to be accepted as part of life. Its not ok NOW the real reason I am writing Mike who finds the need to write on reports, copy and paste is all he really does. He will never admit when he is wrong, Mike the NURSE IS CORRECT YOU ARE NOT. GET IT! You are the reason we received a settlement on are ROR because you never SHUT-UP. Because of your stupid question over 100 times keeping us in the spotlight. They did not like my response's to you. BTW if you did read my report you would not have ask for the proof. Because it is the questions you ask that has all ready been answered, just like you are doing here. NO Glen is not related to Jodi. Why do use ror repost to vent your anger? You show no dipolomacy when you write.Always irate. Do you have the ability to express yourself without personally attacking everyone?

Jodi, I'm sorry, please explain to me how what I said is wrong or ignorant? I've posted from three separate sources backing up my claims, all you or Michelle have done is say they have family members who "Told them" I was worng. How am that being ignorant. All I tried to do here is show to parents that allergic reactions CAN and DO happen on the first sting. They may or may NOT be severe. I've also proved from two independent sources that whoever claimed alleriges are not genetically passed was wrong. Beyond that, I have a family history from such an event, and when that claim was questioned, I backed it up with medical evidence from 2 sources as well. My reasons for doing this is not to prove myself right for the ssake of being right, but to make sure parents who read this thread have the correct facts.

anyone can read this thread, and know nothing is going to get through Mike's scull. If Mike wants to continue to look ignorant, then let him. If he wants to play doctor (and not the fun kind..hehehe) then fine. It's obvious Mike can't accept being wrong. There's no point trying to make him understand.

I appreciate your input. However, if YOU had read MY responses, I specifically state that I was talking about an allergic reaction and NOT anaphlaxis. I specifically speak of my sons reaction as an ALLERGIC reaction and not anaphlaxis. However, allergic reactions CAN be severe and NOT anaphalactic shock. If you don't think that WebMd is a good source than try this source: University of Maryland Medical Center: "While first-time exposure may only produce a mild reaction, repeated exposures may lead to more serious reactions." "Many allergic reactions are mild and can be treated at home, while others can be severe and life-threatening. They often occur more frequently in people with a family history of allergies " I wasn't comparing the two, I was simply rebutting the people who were telling me that allergic reactions were not possible until you were exposed

I have to tell you that after reading all of your responses, Mike, that you evidently don't read the responses of other people. Several people have provided documentation from the same website as you, yet you give it no thought. As a healthcare proffessional I have to tell you sites like WebMD, Ivillage Medical and the like are notoriously wrong. If you look to the National Institutes of Immunology and the like you will see where it says you will NEVER have an anaphylactic reaction the first time. And Anaphylaxis is what we are talking about. As for your son if he was just treated with Benedryl than it was not an anaphylatic reaction and was most likely an mild histamine reaction. And as I, myself and others on this site have said it is possible for children to be stung and really not even know it or for it to be passed off as an insect bite or somethine else unrelated. I see this everyday. You need to stop being so argumentative and listen to what the medical experts here are saying. You keep trying to mix apples and oranges (mild allery and anaphylaxis). When people hear someone say that they are allergic to bees, they picture the person who gets stung and drops dead. People don't mean mild histamine reactions. Although something may be technically right it can still be wrong in the realm of common knowlegde. Such as the fact that poison ivy is not actually poison it is an allergic reation also. Technically correct but logicall in the realm of common knowledge wrong. Why doesn't everybody just stop all the bickering and get over it and if some one has a problem or disagreement then they can seek medical advice from their doctor or nurse advice line.

My son was not stung previously. He was 2 yrs old, this was thirteen years ago, so I had to ask my wife if she remembered the Doctors name. We think it was Mahardi or maherdi or something like that. He was a really nice Indian gentlemen that treated Tyler with an IV Benedryl and antihistamine. We were also prescribed a steroid and an inhaler for him since the allergic reaction had caused his asthma to kick in. Now as for this nonsense about not being allergic til exposed... From WebMD...please note the first sentence You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening. And as for the genetic component... "Allergies have a genetic component. If one parent has allergies, chances are one in three that each child will have an allergy. If both parents have allergies, it is much more likely (seven in 10) that their children will have allergies. Adults usually do not lose their allergies, but children can sometimes outgrow them. In addition, while people are born with a genetic predisposition to allergies, sometimes they don't develop them until well into adulthood."

My son was not stung previously. He was 2 yrs old, this was thirteen years ago, so I had to ask my wife if she remembered the Doctors name. We think it was Mahardi or maherdi or something like that. He was a really nice Indian gentlemen that treated Tyler with an IV Benedryl and antihistamine. We were also prescribed a steroid and an inhaler for him since the allergic reaction had caused his asthma to kick in. Now as for this nonsense about not being allergic til exposed... From WebMD...please note the first sentence You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening. And as for the genetic component... "Allergies have a genetic component. If one parent has allergies, chances are one in three that each child will have an allergy. If both parents have allergies, it is much more likely (seven in 10) that their children will have allergies. Adults usually do not lose their allergies, but children can sometimes outgrow them. In addition, while people are born with a genetic predisposition to allergies, sometimes they don't develop them until well into adulthood."

My son was not stung previously. He was 2 yrs old, this was thirteen years ago, so I had to ask my wife if she remembered the Doctors name. We think it was Mahardi or maherdi or something like that. He was a really nice Indian gentlemen that treated Tyler with an IV Benedryl and antihistamine. We were also prescribed a steroid and an inhaler for him since the allergic reaction had caused his asthma to kick in. Now as for this nonsense about not being allergic til exposed... From WebMD...please note the first sentence You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening. And as for the genetic component... "Allergies have a genetic component. If one parent has allergies, chances are one in three that each child will have an allergy. If both parents have allergies, it is much more likely (seven in 10) that their children will have allergies. Adults usually do not lose their allergies, but children can sometimes outgrow them. In addition, while people are born with a genetic predisposition to allergies, sometimes they don't develop them until well into adulthood."

My son was not stung previously. He was 2 yrs old, this was thirteen years ago, so I had to ask my wife if she remembered the Doctors name. We think it was Mahardi or maherdi or something like that. He was a really nice Indian gentlemen that treated Tyler with an IV Benedryl and antihistamine. We were also prescribed a steroid and an inhaler for him since the allergic reaction had caused his asthma to kick in. Now as for this nonsense about not being allergic til exposed... From WebMD...please note the first sentence You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening. And as for the genetic component... "Allergies have a genetic component. If one parent has allergies, chances are one in three that each child will have an allergy. If both parents have allergies, it is much more likely (seven in 10) that their children will have allergies. Adults usually do not lose their allergies, but children can sometimes outgrow them. In addition, while people are born with a genetic predisposition to allergies, sometimes they don't develop them until well into adulthood."

You only posted here to "warn others that allergic reactions do and can happen"...Duh Mike, I think everyone here and in the nation know that allergic reactions happen. What I and others are trying to tell you is that an allergic reaction CAN NOT happen unless previously exposed. So, if it did happen to your son then he was probably stung before. Just because you and your wife are both allergic, doesn't mean your son will have an allergic reaction the first time, in fact it's impossible. It will increase his chances of being allergic to them in general. So are you saying you have no proof to back up your claims about your son? What did they give your son to treat his severe reaction, and what was the doctors name?

.. I said you haven't mentioned it on any of your other 3-4 posts "here" on THIS thread. Sounds like your not using common sense or trying to play dumb. Anyway, did you read the post HERE from Michelle. It is not possible! Either your son had been previously stung, or you're exaggerating. Just scan the medical report from the ER (just like you demand Glenn to) it's easy remember, and I'll be waiting still.

Unlike Glenn, my incident I speak of happened when my son was 2, 13 yrs ago. I do not have the medical report, though I wish I did. Glenns situation happened CURRENTLY, and he claimed to still have the check and letter, and I asked him to prove it. He didn't. My son was stung when he was 2 at our poolside. The area where he was stung doubled in size and we immediately rushed him to the ER where he was treated. The Dr. told my wife and myself that it was due to the fact that we had the same allergy and passed it to him. I only posted here to warn others that allergic reactions can and do happen

Jodi, Why would I mention my son being son stung in any other post I've responded to on ROR previously since none were about stings? I mentioned it here because it's relevant. Since this post was regarding stings, I mention it only to prove that it CAN happen. My son had never been stung by a bee before, he was 2 at the time. We out by our pool and he decided that the bee is his friend and tried to touch it. The bee didn't like that and stung him on the back of his hand. Within a few minutes his hand blew up and he was very agitated. Luckily we had childrens Benadryl and I gave him that and then took him directly to the ER. The doctor there told me that it appeared to be an allergic reaction to the sting and asked if myself or my wife were allergic (we both are). The doctor told us that allergies can be genetically passed on to children, and if both parents have them, the chances are more likely. My son had never been stung by a bee before, so there is no way he had been exposed to it previously.

I do not follow you around to discredit you at all. I responded here before you, scroll up and look. As for you saying my family member is wrong, and you're right...hmm..I think I'll chose to believe the person with a medical background. As for being "related to Glenn"...if you want to think that for whatever reason..ok, but you are as wrong about that as you are about bee stings. It's funny that you haven't mentioned your son being stung in any of your other posts here. I think you're probably exaggerating about it, because you're desperate to be right. I know, how about taking the same advise that you give Glenn, and scan the medical report. You're always asking for proof, so where's yours. I'll be waiting.

I was shown this by a patient of mine. I have been an a nurse in an allergy office for fifteen years and here is the real honest to goodness truth. The difference between an allergic reaction and anaphylaxis is not great. An allergy is a state of hypersensitivity resulting in an immunologic response. Anaphylaxis is a systemic or generalized exposure of a sensitized person to an allergen that results in vascular collapse, shock, and respiratory comprimise. Even an allergy has to have a sensitizing event (i.e previous exposure). What actually happens is most people are unaware of the first exposure. What Mike was refering to in the previous posts was often refered to as urticaria and puritis relating to contact dermititis. What this is, is a local irritation due to the normal reaction of the skin being punctured and a foriegn substance being injected. This is like how you itch after a mosquito bite. So to conclude let me say that yes you have to have a sensitizing event to have an allergy. This event can be so mild that you don't even know it occured. We often have children in our practice that the parents swear the child has never been stung before yet have had a reaction. But yet if we test the blood of the child for the antibodies and the antigen it is present and there is no was for those to be present with out being stung. So every reputable medical source is going to tell you that you can not have a reaction on the first exposure. This is why in the hospital when we administer an antibiotic that the patient has never recieved before we moniter the patient very closely on the second dose. If anyone has any other concerns regarding this issue you need to speak to your medical provider.

I do not follow you around to discredit you at all. I responded here to this thread BEFORE you, scroll up and look. As for you saying my family member is wrong and you're right...I think I'll chose to believe the person with a medical background. As for being "related to Glenn" are you kidding? You're funny, Mike. Oh, and one more thing, I find it hard to believe the story about your son and the bee. It's funny that you didn't mention it in ANY of your other posts (when you were desperately trying to be right). I think you're making it up, just to be right. How about trying your own advise and provide some proof? Start scanning the medical report. I'll be waiting!!!

To Heidi, my point was you made it sound like you can't have an allergic reaction the first time you get stung which is incorrect. You can, and it can be severe, but doesn't have to be. Anaphylaxis is something slightly different, brought on by an allergic reaction. To compare the two as the same is incorrect, that's all I was trying to say. As to Jodi, who seems to only follow me around in an attempt to discredit me for some reason (I am starting to think you are actually Glenns family btw), you said: "I have a family member that is in pediatrics, and I was sure that she told me a person has to be exposed first in order to develop an allergic reaction to it, subsequently." **Your family member is not right. You can have an allergic reaction the first time you are exposed to it. Check out what it says on both the MD sites (which are run by doctors btw) about allergies, specifically insect stings: From WebMD 'An allergic reaction to the sting occurs when your body's immune system overreacts to substances called allergens that are in the venom of stinging insects. You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening.' From the National Institute of Health Website 'While first-time exposure may only produce a mild reaction, repeated exposures may lead to more serious reactions. Once a person is sensitized (has had a previous sensitivity reaction), even a very limited exposure to a very small amount of allergen can trigger a severe reaction.' Oh, and please explain to me how my son had a violent allergic reaction to getting stung THE FIRST TIME? The doctor explained to me that since my wife and I both had bee allergies, these were passed along. So please, just stop, this is ridiculous.

Lets see...the first time I was ever stung by a bee I had a severe reaction that required immediate medical care. I had never been stung before, ever. I am also severely allergic to strawberries. Guess how I found out? That is right, when I was just under two years old, I got my first strawberry. Throat swollen and full body hives within instants. So, I guess, you CAN have severe reactions the first time you are exposed. It is rare, but it is possible.

I have a family member that is in pediatrics, and I was sure that she told me a person has to be exposed first in order to develop an allergic reaction to it, subsequently. So I called her, and to make a long story short...Heidi is right. Mike, you're an intelligent person, but maybe you should stick to giving advise about 'insurance' and 'ebay'. I mean, to think that you actually know more than someone in the medical field, well it shows your undying arrogance.

Mike, The common public expression of an "allergy to bees" is anaphylaxis. Garden variety allergies are uncomfortable but I wouldn't as a NURSE go calling the doctor if a patient has garden variety allergis. Now allergies to bee stings (anaphalaxis) is a life threatening systemic resposnse requiring emergency intervention. Your first post stated that I was giving very dangerous advice to say that you can't have an anaphylactic reaction with the first exposure, now that I have proven you wrong you bring up general allergies. In every post I made I used anaphylaxis as the base for the generally understood "allergic to bees". If you go by a life alert bracelet and it say "I am allergic to bees" you know the wearer is speaking of anaphylaxis. You are some one who thrives on arguement and I will not enable you. This is my last post.

As a trained paramedic/nurse, than you should know there is a difference between anphalactic shock and a severe allergic reaction. The original poster was concerned about her childs ALLERGIC REACTION since she is allergic. YOU brought up anaphylaxis. I said that your advice was dangerous because you made it seem as though one cannot have a reaction the first time stung which is patently false. From WebMD... What are the symptoms? Symptoms of an allergic reaction can range from mild to severe. Reddening or swelling around the site of a bite is a normal reaction to the insect venom. Minor, localized allergic reactions cause redness, swelling, fatigue, mild tenderness, nausea, itching, and a low fever, but they do not usually require treatment with epinephrine. Mild reactions are not usually an indication that you need allergy shots (immune therapy) to prevent a worse reaction should you be stung again. A more serious allergic reaction can spread throughout your entire body (systemic reaction) and cause symptoms such as itching, hives, or swelling of the tongue, throat, or other body parts. Also, a life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis can cause severe symptoms such as confusion, difficulty breathing, shock, and sometimes death.

Mike, You seem to like to quote WebMD so here is a direct qupte from them... What Is Anaphylaxis? Anaphylaxis is a sudden, severe allergic reaction that occurs when you are exposed to a substance that your body was sensitized to during a previous exposure. ***You cannot have an anaphylactic reaction to a substance the first time you are exposed to it.*** Instead, during your first exposure to a substance, your body may produce antibodies. Then when you are exposed to the substance again, your antibodies may react with the substance, or allergen, resulting in anaphylaxis. However, you may not realize that you were exposed before to the offending allergen. (the *** are mine not the website's)

Mike I believe what you are describing is an anaphylactoid reaction not a true allergy. Here is a quote from National Jewish Medical Center (which is a world renownded respiratory center) "When exposed to a foreign substance, some people suffer reactions identical to anaphylaxis, but in which no allergy is involved. These reactions are called anaphylactoid (meaning anaphylaxis-like) reactions. While the immune system must be "primed" by previous exposure to cause anaphylaxis, anaphylactoid reactions can occur with no previous exposure at all." And I am a nurse and a PARAMEDIC not an EMT.

Heidi.... From WebMD "An allergic reaction to the sting occurs when your body's immune system overreacts to substances called allergens that are in the venom of stinging insects. You may not always develop an allergic reaction the first time you are stung. Even if your first reaction to a sting is mild, allergic reactions can get worse with each sting. Your next reactions may become more severe or even life-threatening." **Please note the second paragraph which backs up what I said. From the National Institute of Health Website "While first-time exposure may only produce a mild reaction, repeated exposures may lead to more serious reactions. Once a person is sensitized (has had a previous sensitivity reaction), even a very limited exposure to a very small amount of allergen can trigger a severe reaction." So if you were a long time nurse and a long time EMT, please tell me how you believe that you cannot have a reaction the first time? What source are you quoting from. This is VERY dangerous advice to tell people Heidi!

Here is a quote from the NIH (Nation Institute of Health) "Anaphylaxis is an severe, whole-body allergic reaction. After an initial exposure to a substance like bee sting toxin, the person's immune system becomes sensitized to that allergen. On a subsequent exposure, an allergic reaction occurs. This reaction is sudden, severe, and involves the whole body." I have been a nurse and paramendic for a long time and I can provide addition references if needed.

Here is a quote from the NIH (Nation Institute of Health) "Anaphylaxis is an severe, whole-body allergic reaction. After an initial exposure to a substance like bee sting toxin, the person's immune system becomes sensitized to that allergen. On a subsequent exposure, an allergic reaction occurs. This reaction is sudden, severe, and involves the whole body." I have been a nurse and paramendic for a long time and I can provide addition references if needed.

Here is a quote from the NIH (Nation Institute of Health) "Anaphylaxis is an severe, whole-body allergic reaction. After an initial exposure to a substance like bee sting toxin, the person's immune system becomes sensitized to that allergen. On a subsequent exposure, an allergic reaction occurs. This reaction is sudden, severe, and involves the whole body." I have been a nurse and paramendic for a long time and I can provide addition references if needed.

Here is a quote from the NIH (Nation Institute of Health) "Anaphylaxis is an severe, whole-body allergic reaction. After an initial exposure to a substance like bee sting toxin, the person's immune system becomes sensitized to that allergen. On a subsequent exposure, an allergic reaction occurs. This reaction is sudden, severe, and involves the whole body." I have been a nurse and paramendic for a long time and I can provide addition references if needed.

Heidi, this is not a true statement. You CAN have an allergic reactiojn the first time you are stung. Usually the reaction is not as severe as th3e second due to the reason you specify, but it COULD be.

I am sorry for your son's pain and the way he was treated. I just wanted to let you know that if you have never been stung before you can not have an anaphalactic reaction. You have to have been exposed once to build the antibodies that cause the reaction.

At Kindercare as the previous person reported there is a daily chart that shows diaper changes, naps and feedings. This will show the times and also a report on each. ie: for diapering it will show the times the baby was checked and will report either dry, wet or bm. for feedings it will show the time the baby was fed and how many ounces the baby ate. I would have to say that in most cases a director would not be informed as to if these charts are not followed and false information being put on them. As a former Director of Kindercare I would have fired anyone not doing the charts as they were supposed to and marking inaccurate information. The big problem with all of this is the fact that sometimes the Center Director honestly doesnt know what's going on. There are so many other things that are going on around the center that if a room seems to be running well and there are no complaints, it really doesn't get focused on too much. Yes, I know that's wrong but when the regional office is barking down our throats about enrollment, how much we spent on staffing, our food budget that went over last week etc, etc, etc. if a room lacks complaints and seems to be running smooth, it really can get overlooked. I guess what I'm trying to say is no, it's not right, but with underpaid staff and it's hard to bring new staff in because of low wages then yes, there are going to be HUGE problems within the classrooms. If a Center Director at Kindercare is running a good program with happy parents, happy kids and happy staff, in my eyes she is a Saint. Given the stress she's under to make a profit and the tight budget she faces and the little amount she is able to give for staffing, it takes an extaordinary person to be a Center Director.

At Kindercare as the previous person reported there is a daily chart that shows diaper changes, naps and feedings. This will show the times and also a report on each. ie: for diapering it will show the times the baby was checked and will report either dry, wet or bm. for feedings it will show the time the baby was fed and how many ounces the baby ate. I would have to say that in most cases a director would not be informed as to if these charts are not followed and false information being put on them. As a former Director of Kindercare I would have fired anyone not doing the charts as they were supposed to and marking inaccurate information. The big problem with all of this is the fact that sometimes the Center Director honestly doesnt know what's going on. There are so many other things that are going on around the center that if a room seems to be running well and there are no complaints, it really doesn't get focused on too much. Yes, I know that's wrong but when the regional office is barking down our throats about enrollment, how much we spent on staffing, our food budget that went over last week etc, etc, etc. if a room lacks complaints and seems to be running smooth, it really can get overlooked. I guess what I'm trying to say is no, it's not right, but with underpaid staff and it's hard to bring new staff in because of low wages then yes, there are going to be HUGE problems within the classrooms. If a Center Director at Kindercare is running a good program with happy parents, happy kids and happy staff, in my eyes she is a Saint. Given the stress she's under to make a profit and the tight budget she faces and the little amount she is able to give for staffing, it takes an extaordinary person to be a Center Director.

At Kindercare as the previous person reported there is a daily chart that shows diaper changes, naps and feedings. This will show the times and also a report on each. ie: for diapering it will show the times the baby was checked and will report either dry, wet or bm. for feedings it will show the time the baby was fed and how many ounces the baby ate. I would have to say that in most cases a director would not be informed as to if these charts are not followed and false information being put on them. As a former Director of Kindercare I would have fired anyone not doing the charts as they were supposed to and marking inaccurate information. The big problem with all of this is the fact that sometimes the Center Director honestly doesnt know what's going on. There are so many other things that are going on around the center that if a room seems to be running well and there are no complaints, it really doesn't get focused on too much. Yes, I know that's wrong but when the regional office is barking down our throats about enrollment, how much we spent on staffing, our food budget that went over last week etc, etc, etc. if a room lacks complaints and seems to be running smooth, it really can get overlooked. I guess what I'm trying to say is no, it's not right, but with underpaid staff and it's hard to bring new staff in because of low wages then yes, there are going to be HUGE problems within the classrooms. If a Center Director at Kindercare is running a good program with happy parents, happy kids and happy staff, in my eyes she is a Saint. Given the stress she's under to make a profit and the tight budget she faces and the little amount she is able to give for staffing, it takes an extaordinary person to be a Center Director.

At Kindercare as the previous person reported there is a daily chart that shows diaper changes, naps and feedings. This will show the times and also a report on each. ie: for diapering it will show the times the baby was checked and will report either dry, wet or bm. for feedings it will show the time the baby was fed and how many ounces the baby ate. I would have to say that in most cases a director would not be informed as to if these charts are not followed and false information being put on them. As a former Director of Kindercare I would have fired anyone not doing the charts as they were supposed to and marking inaccurate information. The big problem with all of this is the fact that sometimes the Center Director honestly doesnt know what's going on. There are so many other things that are going on around the center that if a room seems to be running well and there are no complaints, it really doesn't get focused on too much. Yes, I know that's wrong but when the regional office is barking down our throats about enrollment, how much we spent on staffing, our food budget that went over last week etc, etc, etc. if a room lacks complaints and seems to be running smooth, it really can get overlooked. I guess what I'm trying to say is no, it's not right, but with underpaid staff and it's hard to bring new staff in because of low wages then yes, there are going to be HUGE problems within the classrooms. If a Center Director at Kindercare is running a good program with happy parents, happy kids and happy staff, in my eyes she is a Saint. Given the stress she's under to make a profit and the tight budget she faces and the little amount she is able to give for staffing, it takes an extaordinary person to be a Center Director.

it happens in every daycare...but, I have a neighbor that just had her first baby. She works at Kindercare in Columbus, OH. When she was ready to go back to work, she literally begged me to watch her baby. I asked her why she wouldn't enroll her child there at Kindercare with her (she would get a discount, she'd be able to work, the baby would be in the same building). She said "ABSOLUTELY NOT, do you know what goes on in that/all daycare centers". She basically went on to tell me that the staff is extremely uneducated, they do not care about the kids. Some of the babies never get held or fed, but the staff will mark the babies charts as if they have been. My neighbor has seen this herself! It says a lot when a person that works there would NEVER leave their child there.

Take your child out and find another daycare! You will probably not find a daycare where biting never happens. However they should do something to remedy the situation. My daugher had a problem with a biter at her daycare and the daycare had his mother remove him. As you not calling you, believe it or not, many parents do not want to get phone calls unless it is something they will have to leave work for to tend to their child. My neighbor babysits and one time she called a mother to tell her about something really neat her child did. The mother asked that she not be bothered anymore unless it is something life threatening because she is too busy during the day. There are some really great daycares out that!

I have also since then been a Director of many other large child care centers. First of all, you need to understand a few things. 1. Kindercare is not in the Child Care business because of a love of children. It's a business just like any other business. Every single center operates on the same sort of budget. It's the director who if she is very good can give the appearance of an excellent center given her tight, tight operating budget. The centers who people I have seen on this site praise as wonderful centers, I have no doubt they are but I can also guarantee you if the director leaves, your child care is in serious jeopardy of getting worse. 2. The staff is underpaid, overworked and not very well trained. You may get reports on the "ongoing education" these outstanding people get but it's all for show, it's all to make it look like they are better qualified. (the quality staff dont last too long in Kindercare, they go on to better centers) The centers with good staff are actually rallying around the director because she has instilled good morale, not because they love Kindercare. As I said, the good director goes and so does the morale and the quality center you thought you had. 3. Your children are not eating as much as you think they are. We were only budgeted to give the USDA recommended servings., nothing more. If you want to know how little that is I suggest you look on their site. 4. Biting is a fact of life in a child care center, especially in a center which is run to capacity. For toddlers it seems this is a common form of communication, it gets attention. If you have a toddler in a center, they are going to get bit no matter how good the staff is. A good teacher will try to work with the toddler to get them to use better communication skills but it is unavoidable. I quit Kindercare and all other franchise child care centers when I had my own baby. I quickly realized that if I didn't want my own child in the center then I had no business "selling" it. I since then went to a small non-profit child care center and immediately saw the difference. I love working there, I have no problems enrolling children there because it truly is a wonderful enviornment with loving, well paid staff. I will NEVER go back to work at a franchise "for profit" child care center!

Kindercare is a center that is clearly undereducated in the laws of each state. I believe that the one in Shakopee Minnesota is a prime example of that. Each Center should have a written handbook of rules and regs. and actions to take for certain situations. Kindercare does not as far as I know and I work there. My employment there is rounding its end and I would tell anybody NOT to take their children there.