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Complaint Review: Logistics Advertising Inc - Rancho Cordova California
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Logistics Advertising Inc
11305 Sunrise Gold Cir Ste D Rancho Cordova, 95742 California, U.S.A.
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Logistics Advertising Inc Mgmt lvl & $300-400/wk promises, less-than-Min. Wage pay, improper job listings Rancho Cordova California
This organization listed multiple positions in various job websites, specifically "Sports-Oriented Marketing", "Entry Level Marketing/Promotions".
They have folks on the job demonstrating a special car wax/waterless car cleaner for 12 hrs a workday, 8 of which is on the field at whichever gas station somewhere in Northern California (Dixon, Stockton, and other various cities throughout the region) the individual team is assigned to, in which you work like a right dog and the minimum they will pay you is actually less than California minimum and dramatically less than promised.
So, technically 12 hours' work a day and the very least you can get is just about $5/hour for 5 day work week, or just more than $4/hour for a 6 day work week. Granted, they say the more FW1 products you manage to sell, the higher pay you get.
They say if you suck at the selling, you can still make $300-$400 a week. $300 divided by 60 hours on the job a week for new people, that's $5/hr. Remember, California minimum wage is now $8 as January 1, 2008.
Once you get promoted to the next level, you can start working Saturdays as well, so that adds 12 more hours. $300 divided by 72 hours, you're now looking at $4.17/hr. That may be even below Federal Minimum wage..!
What they don't tell you before the callback interview is that sunblock would be a great idea since they have you outdoors for the 8 hrs, and with all the walking around, running between gas pumps (working at gas stations) and constant action and such you'll be doing is sure to leave you sore all over every night. If you don't have a car, then you won't make it to management, as it requires a car. Bet they don't even compensate for fuel!
The managers use their own cars, and may not even have any kind of occupational auto insurance; my last manager spent the drive from Dixon back to the office texting behind the wheel almost the entire time! What if we had gotten into an accident at such break-neck speeds??
On my first day, a potential prospect shadowed us and after half a day so far, the prospect got the right idea and left the assignment. I was uncertain if he got a ride back to Sacramento or not then, but once it was time to go, the manager had left, leaving me to wonder if the uncaring manager had actually left the guy stranded all that distance from the office or not.
In early 2009, I got my W2 from them, apparently still at the location where I picked up my only check. They stated the total wages they paid me was over $30, but the only check I ever got from them was for $13.46.
You read that right.. $13.46 for 12 hours work.. Before taxes.
The guy who I spoke with (new since I left them) gave me more claims, saying that they were a legitimate company, that they work with a National Non-Profit Organisation, etc.
I asked them why they would mail the W2 but not the checks, and his excuse was they only mail the checks when employees ask them to. They also claim that they mail their W2's from Canada, as that's where their parent company Innovage is based.
"We believe that 2 plus 2 can equal 5." -- Actual quote from their MySpace page, www.myspace.com/logisticsadv
Maybe this explains their stellar bookkeeping/payroll skills?
It was also brought to my attention during that visit that the job was commission-only pay, which was complete bull as I had trainers left & right make grandiose promises of being paid at least $300-400 a week, management within months, etc and not a single person said we would only be paid commission. No such word from my trainers, from co-workers, not even the head manager of the Office herself. They also said at the time of employment that this job was more of a demonstrator job, with minor sales.
All this double-talk from Logistics Advertising, did somebody say High Turnover Rate?? This would explain why their Career Builder job listings are constantly saying "15 New Positions!!", etc. They get these poor college kids & people desperate for work, who know hardly anything about labour rights, and work them like practically indentured servants.
The sad part of the woeful tale is this: The California Industrial Relations Board states that since it is an outdoor sales job and over 50% of the workday is spent outdoors, the Company is actually exempt from having to pay minimum wages..!! The guy I spoke with claimed that if they had to pay minimum wages, they'd be out of business..
DrPepper
Sacramento, California
U.S.A.
They have folks on the job demonstrating a special car wax/waterless car cleaner for 12 hrs a workday, 8 of which is on the field at whichever gas station somewhere in Northern California (Dixon, Stockton, and other various cities throughout the region) the individual team is assigned to, in which you work like a right dog and the minimum they will pay you is actually less than California minimum and dramatically less than promised.
So, technically 12 hours' work a day and the very least you can get is just about $5/hour for 5 day work week, or just more than $4/hour for a 6 day work week. Granted, they say the more FW1 products you manage to sell, the higher pay you get.
They say if you suck at the selling, you can still make $300-$400 a week. $300 divided by 60 hours on the job a week for new people, that's $5/hr. Remember, California minimum wage is now $8 as January 1, 2008.
Once you get promoted to the next level, you can start working Saturdays as well, so that adds 12 more hours. $300 divided by 72 hours, you're now looking at $4.17/hr. That may be even below Federal Minimum wage..!
What they don't tell you before the callback interview is that sunblock would be a great idea since they have you outdoors for the 8 hrs, and with all the walking around, running between gas pumps (working at gas stations) and constant action and such you'll be doing is sure to leave you sore all over every night. If you don't have a car, then you won't make it to management, as it requires a car. Bet they don't even compensate for fuel!
The managers use their own cars, and may not even have any kind of occupational auto insurance; my last manager spent the drive from Dixon back to the office texting behind the wheel almost the entire time! What if we had gotten into an accident at such break-neck speeds??
On my first day, a potential prospect shadowed us and after half a day so far, the prospect got the right idea and left the assignment. I was uncertain if he got a ride back to Sacramento or not then, but once it was time to go, the manager had left, leaving me to wonder if the uncaring manager had actually left the guy stranded all that distance from the office or not.
In early 2009, I got my W2 from them, apparently still at the location where I picked up my only check. They stated the total wages they paid me was over $30, but the only check I ever got from them was for $13.46.
You read that right.. $13.46 for 12 hours work.. Before taxes.
The guy who I spoke with (new since I left them) gave me more claims, saying that they were a legitimate company, that they work with a National Non-Profit Organisation, etc.
I asked them why they would mail the W2 but not the checks, and his excuse was they only mail the checks when employees ask them to. They also claim that they mail their W2's from Canada, as that's where their parent company Innovage is based.
"We believe that 2 plus 2 can equal 5." -- Actual quote from their MySpace page, www.myspace.com/logisticsadv
Maybe this explains their stellar bookkeeping/payroll skills?
It was also brought to my attention during that visit that the job was commission-only pay, which was complete bull as I had trainers left & right make grandiose promises of being paid at least $300-400 a week, management within months, etc and not a single person said we would only be paid commission. No such word from my trainers, from co-workers, not even the head manager of the Office herself. They also said at the time of employment that this job was more of a demonstrator job, with minor sales.
All this double-talk from Logistics Advertising, did somebody say High Turnover Rate?? This would explain why their Career Builder job listings are constantly saying "15 New Positions!!", etc. They get these poor college kids & people desperate for work, who know hardly anything about labour rights, and work them like practically indentured servants.
The sad part of the woeful tale is this: The California Industrial Relations Board states that since it is an outdoor sales job and over 50% of the workday is spent outdoors, the Company is actually exempt from having to pay minimum wages..!! The guy I spoke with claimed that if they had to pay minimum wages, they'd be out of business..
DrPepper
Sacramento, California
U.S.A.
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Kitteebaby
United States of AmericaCurrent employee Clearing up the uncertainty
#2UPDATE Employee
Tue, March 27, 2012
Hi there,
I am a current employee of Logistics Advertising Inc, I have been around for a very long time, seen people come and go. There are people made for this business and other are not fit for it. We have plenty of successful employees here.
I have heard plenty of stuff about the company is completely RIDICULOUS... Logistics has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THOSE OTHER COMPANIES LISTED IN THIS POST, OR THE OTHER POSTS LISTED. I have heard of cydcor / dsmax and a few of the other companies this person lists, but I don't know why they put Logistics's name in the mix with those companies. Its not fair or even credible to tie Logistics into it.
These people have clearly never worked at Logistics or they would never have posted this, and look at the people that work there... let me know if it looks like they don't like what they do for a living. Now I'm not saying those other companies arent shady to be honest I don't know, they may very well be. But what is mentioned in the title has nothing to do with Redline Executives. Everyone that works at Redline loves there job, the atmosphere, the management, their paychecks, and its one of the most motivated staff of people Ive ever met!
The reality is that everything that is mentioned in those posts has no relation and doesn't even slightly resemble what it is that we do at Logistics. It honestly looks like this person just spammed there resume' a million places and
confused Logistics for one of those other companies they spammed. It doesn't even sound like he went to the interview cause what Logistics does is SOOOO different than what is stated. Once again im not saying, these posts
aren't correct, I am just saying that Logistics isnt associated with what is being said here.
Let me start with some FACTS
- Logistics IS NOT a door to door or business to business company, nor telemarketing.
- Logistics DOES NOT sell any sort of make up or cosmetics products, nor wax, or home goods, medical pendants, perfumes
- Logistics WILL NOT guarantee you 30-40k per year, you can earn it but they will not guarantee it, it is performance based and the average person makes over
$400 / week... ASK TO SEE THERE PAYSTUB IF YOU GET A 2ND INTERVIEW... the proof is in the paystub.
- We get paid every Friday with a real PAYCHECK with a PAYSTUB and taxes come out, you can pick it up Monday between the hours of 12 pm and 5pm.
- We do all our Promotional events at Sites that are paid rent, and set up weeks in advance (it's like working a trade show type of event)
- They will not offer you a 2nd interview if you are not a people person, uncomfortable dealing with the public, are socially awkward, prefer a desk job or office position, have a bad attitude, are super skeptical, or seem lazy. IF
SEEMS LIKE YOUR NOT INTERESTED THEY WON"T CALL YOU BACK IN! (why would they waste their time, your clearly not going to do this anyway)
- You must pass a background check to work at Logistics (No Felonies)
- The 2nd interview is ONE HOUR!! it IS NOT 8 hours or a full day. You meet a trainer at an event and there are 2 parts to it. Part 1 you observe for 30 mins, Part 2 you sit down for 30 mins and break down hours, pay, advancement,
scheduling, and open it to any questions you have.
- The Opportunity to grow is based on QUALIFICATIONS. If you hit the qualifications you get promoted.
Let me leave on this, IF YOU LISTEN TO UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE, YOU WILL STAY UNEMPLOYED. I challenge anyone who is applying to Logistics to go to the interview TRY YOUR HARDEST to get the job and be invited back. and work there
for 2 weeks... if youre not picking it up or aren't performing well and making good money then quit... the worst thing that happens is you end up making a few hundred bucks and your back at your computer looking for jobs again... lets be honest for a second, does being unemployed pay very well?? And do most companies pay you for interviews? so is continuing to look for jobs paying your bills? so what do you really have to lose in giving it or any other
job a shot if offered? Remember the only way to prove the system wrong is to do it 100% right. and don't just take my word for it, I am one of 27 employeeslucky enough and talented enough to be and stay a part of Logistics's team.
TO SAVE YOU SOME TIME THOUGH, DO NOT APPLY if you arent comfortable with people, are trying to do the least amount of work to make the most amount of money, arent comfortable being active, don't like having fun or dealing with people, or are only looking for an office job (*unless they specify office positions are open).
DO APPLY if you are the person who always outworks everyone at your current job but don't get rewarded for it. DO APPLY if you are a stong communicator with a great attitude. DO APPLY if you like to have fun and meet new people. DO APPLY if your open to learning something new and want guidance to help you find a new path.
I HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR THINGS UP!!
littlebirdy89
United States of AmericaAgree with you
#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, February 05, 2010
It is strange because I worked for logistics for two months. It was not a great job. I stood from 7am until 930pm for six days a week. I don't have a car so I was using public transportation.
I think that I heard about you while I was working there. The lie about the pay was the worst. I am good at selling, but all that standing was exhausting and took a toll. Half the money I made was spent on coffee to stay awake and a lot getting to and from work, barely had enough to cover my bills.
A pure commission job is not worth it, not even in this economy. Having people yell at me, cuss at me, and working in the getto. I lived in South Sac for a a long time, and there are places you don't go at night...Then having to work there until 730 at night. That is just worng.
When I quit, it seemed like it was falling a part, but who knows. Maybe she will find some more suckers. But I think she needs to think about the way she runs her business.
LittleBirdy
