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  • Report:  #47982

Complaint Review: Magazine Source - Nationwide

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- Broomfield, Colorado,
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Magazine Source
www.magazinesource.com Nationwide, U.S.A.
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When the Magazine Source called me, claiming to be another magazine company I had already paid in full, they offered me 6 more magazines at no additional cost. After repeatitive questioning, I thought I was actually getting more mags at no additional cost.

By "no additional cost" they meant "you keep paying what you already paid." They got me in two ways:

1.) By saying they were from "the company that sends out your magazines."

2.) Twisting their words so I believed I would not be charged anything.

The coversation went on for over half an hour, and I really thought I knew what was going on - I thought they were offering me the free magazines so I would renew with them when my first contract ran out. The thing is, the guy I was on the phone with was not from the company I thought he was from. He was from a seperate entity altogether.

My card expired a few months ago, so now the mag source calls me a few times a day, but I just can't bring myself to give them any info over the phone. I got tired of running in circular arguements (and their twisted logic) so I stopped answering the phone when "Out of Area" shows up on my caller ID, hoping they would send something in writing, and they haven't. The calls just come in more frequently now; they never leave a message.

I'm tempted to pick up the phone again, just for the entertainment factor (it's actually quite entertaining sometimes, especially if you get a real "live one" that really thinks I'm going to cooperate.

I emailed my story to a consumer advocate already, but if anyone has any suggestions (I live in CO, so if there is something I could do with the laws here...) please click the rebuttle box and let me know. I saw the post about getting a lawyer, but the laws are different here in CO.

Anyways, thanks for reading and letting me vent.

Patrick

Broomfield, Colorado
U.S.A.


6 Updates & Rebuttals

Patrick

Broomfield,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Just Stop Paying

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, May 28, 2003

I haven't paid and refuse to still. They tried to offer me a deal but denied it. Next time they call, just tell them that wasn't you they recorded, deny you ever made the contract, and write them and tell them to stop calling. Check your state laws to see the limits "bill colectors" have before it's considered harrassment. Save all the correspondence just in case. If they threaten to send you to collections, tell them to "send it and writing" and watch that threat dissappear. If ou're doing automatic payments have them stop that by either calling or writing. You're supposed to have given written authorization for the electronic withdrawl anyways. If you've got a lawyer more power to you. Otherwise, consumer advocates know about this stuff and do what they can to help.


Patrick

Broomfield,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Just Stop Paying

#3Consumer Comment

Wed, May 28, 2003

I haven't paid and refuse to still. They tried to offer me a deal but denied it. Next time they call, just tell them that wasn't you they recorded, deny you ever made the contract, and write them and tell them to stop calling. Check your state laws to see the limits "bill colectors" have before it's considered harrassment. Save all the correspondence just in case. If they threaten to send you to collections, tell them to "send it and writing" and watch that threat dissappear. If ou're doing automatic payments have them stop that by either calling or writing. You're supposed to have given written authorization for the electronic withdrawl anyways. If you've got a lawyer more power to you. Otherwise, consumer advocates know about this stuff and do what they can to help.


Patrick

Broomfield,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Just Stop Paying

#4Consumer Comment

Wed, May 28, 2003

I haven't paid and refuse to still. They tried to offer me a deal but denied it. Next time they call, just tell them that wasn't you they recorded, deny you ever made the contract, and write them and tell them to stop calling. Check your state laws to see the limits "bill colectors" have before it's considered harrassment. Save all the correspondence just in case. If they threaten to send you to collections, tell them to "send it and writing" and watch that threat dissappear. If ou're doing automatic payments have them stop that by either calling or writing. You're supposed to have given written authorization for the electronic withdrawl anyways. If you've got a lawyer more power to you. Otherwise, consumer advocates know about this stuff and do what they can to help.


Patrick

Broomfield,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Just Stop Paying

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, May 28, 2003

I haven't paid and refuse to still. They tried to offer me a deal but denied it. Next time they call, just tell them that wasn't you they recorded, deny you ever made the contract, and write them and tell them to stop calling. Check your state laws to see the limits "bill colectors" have before it's considered harrassment. Save all the correspondence just in case. If they threaten to send you to collections, tell them to "send it and writing" and watch that threat dissappear. If ou're doing automatic payments have them stop that by either calling or writing. You're supposed to have given written authorization for the electronic withdrawl anyways. If you've got a lawyer more power to you. Otherwise, consumer advocates know about this stuff and do what they can to help.


Patrick

Broomfield,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Same Arguements, Different Person... very decieving

#6Consumer Comment

Wed, March 05, 2003

Like I said the salesperson was very decieving, so if he did try to explain that he was from a seperate company he failed. And although I am on tape, my answers to the questions I was asked were under false impressions. Here's how I answered those questions: 1.) I didn't have any misunderstandings, according to what I was led to believe in the half-hour conversation that happened prior to going on tape. 2.) I repeated the terms, referring to my first contract, so my answer worked in 2 ways - both what I thought and what they wanted to hear. 3.) Like I said before, he said he was from "the company that sends out your magazines." So whatever name I answered, it was under false pretense. When I did get my bill a few weeks later, I tried to cancel by calling "Customer Service" but was told that I only had three days to cancel from when I signed on, which was during the telephone conversation. By the time I was billed and realized this was a seperate entity altogether, it was too late. The details have been explained to various employess of Magazine Source several times and they will not deal with my accusation of being misled, despite my knocking down every arguement. They just change the subject to some other isuue, but the converstatio always comes back to the salesperson lying to me, then they hang up.


Jack

Gladstone,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Wake Up & Be Honest!

#7UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, March 05, 2003

I worked for 3 years in Quality Assurance for Magazine Source. Our job was to review all the tape recorded conversations that the salespeople had with the consumer. One of the questions the salespeople had to ask is "are you currently paying on a magazine account with us or any other company?" Then they were then required to go on to say "If you are keep in mind this is seperate from any payments or service you have with us or any other company" In addittion the salespeople at the end of the call are required to do a quiz of the consumer asking the following three questions. 1. "So their are no misunderstandings what magazines will you be receiving and for how long?" 2. "How much are your monthly payments and for how long ?" 3. " And what is the name of our company?" We had strict instructions that if a salesperson did not do this word for word we were to cancel the account for not passing quality guidelines prior to any payment transactions. How did you answer all 3 of those questions and not know what you were doing? I also know you would have received everything in writing prior to being billed (including their name all over the envelope and letter). Be sure next time to tell the entire story! FYI: They will cancel your account by simply calling their customer service.

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