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  • Report:  #376540

Complaint Review: MCTS Trading MTK Signal. Patrick Montes - Internet

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- slab city, Tennessee,
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MCTS Trading MTK Signal. Patrick Montes
mctstrading.com Internet, U.S.A.
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In October of 2006 I reviewed a recommendation on MrSwing.com for Patrick Montes. After years of experience and research Mr Larry Swing said Montes was the real deal. I contacted Montes, he is very convincing when it comes to speaking about options and said I would be in "very good hands" and that he was the best in the business. Mr. Montes emailed me results from his two systems, a $25,000 account called platinum and a $50,000 account called double platinum in which he trades 10 different commodities with very good results. He assured me that he would always keep 50% of my money in cash to safe guard my account.

Also said corn was ready to make a move if I wanted to get on board. So I opened an account with Montes with $22,000. Mr Montes never wanted me to contact the brokerage house on my own , he always wanted me to go through him. This was a fully managed account. He traded my account almost exclusively in grains, mostly corn and soybeans, instead of his platinum system. As my account dwindled he assured that everything would work out. Until today, 4/16/07, I called him to find he has lost it all. I thought I had done my due diligence before hiring this guy. Larry Swing of MrSwing.com and Leslie Burton of Fox Investments recommended him.

4/16/07 Called Montes to find out what to do. Asked three times why he put all my eggs in one basket and why he used 100% of my account, no answer. Said $22,000 really wasn't enough to trade anyway, not even $50,000, why wasn't I told this when I signed up? Also before I signed up he sent me a $25,000 account example and a $50,000 account example.

4/20/07 all positions expired worthless. $21,000.00 gone. I had taken $1000 out for an emergency.

4/23/07 talked to Montes, asked again why he put 100% of my account at risk and reminded him that just 2 or 3 weeks ago I called and he said he had set up my account so it would be there to trade another day. Went on and on about stuff I really don't understand but never answered my questions. Said he would wave his commissions and Dorman Trading would cut their commissions almost in half until I got my initial investment back.

5/9/07 Montes called upset because in a letter to Dorman I said he had lost all my money, which he did. Montes wanted me to send a letter to Dorman saying he wasn't to blame for my loses, but I told Dorman the truth.Told me I better not f**k with him or there would be trouble.Then tried to place some of the blame on me because I should have said something if I didn't like the way things were going. I did this on several occasions. One time in particular early January I called because I noticed only $5,000 in cash in my account , as usual he explained it away and I felt good when I hung up.

5/07Montes called all excited because he thought the grain market had turned around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, but I figured giving him a second chance was cheaper than a lawyer. So I sent him another $1200 hoping for the best.

8/17/07Once again my options expired worthless, and I lost about $1000.

I contacted the board of futures and commodites trading. They investigated and found he was trading naked calls in my account(not good), but didn't think he did anything wrong. Even though Montes told me he lost all his client's money he is back in business under a friend's name.

Look this guy up on the SEC, and the futures and commodites trading website he has changed his name once, lost his credentials several times, and has changed business names several times.

Mark

slab city, Tennessee

U.S.A.


1 Updates & Rebuttals

Patrick Montes

Thousand Oaks,
California,
U.S.A.
Description of the incident:

#2REBUTTAL Individual responds

Thu, October 09, 2008

October 8, 2008 Description of the incident: The following documentation was filed on September 4, 2007 with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) and a copy of the client's complaint and file was submitted to the National Futures Association (NFA). Note: The complaint on Ripoffreport.com was filed under the name Mark from Slab City, Tennessee; however, these are false, as are many other points made in the complaint. The following documentation accurately details the series events and interactions between the client and Patrick Montes / MCTS Trading. Two emails were sent by the client, one on September 1, 2007 and one on September 3, 2007, misrepresenting facts that were established during a client/broker relationship that started in September 21, 2006. In these two emails the client is lying with regards to the facts and over 500 pages of email correspondence documenting and confirming that all transactions were legitimate and authorized by the client. There are also recorded conversations which is part of industry practice. In these emails the client threatens my livelihood and to try to take away my brokers license which allows me to be the only provider for a family of 5. Here are the documented facts based on emails confirmations and client authorization on every transaction made: Here's a brief synopsis of the client's trading history: 1. An email was received by the client on September 21, 2006 confirming he had traded before and lost $26,000 on his own but wanted to try again. He opened an account with Fox/man on 10/4/06 with $22,000. 2. He was not approved as a managed account due to insufficient funds so he agreed to trade futures under Time and Price Discretion. All trades were confirmed with client on tape and through email confirmations for every trade. 3. The account was transferred to Dorman on 11/18/2006 with a balance of approximately $16,453 (down around 27% from initial investment of $22,000). 4. After transfer to Dorman and initial draw down, client agreed to trade grain options to reduce the risk of trading futures and possibility of margin calls. 5. On 11/29/06 I Initiated an additional compliance confirmation measure to verify with the client that he authorized the trades by sending A NEW TRADE WORKING email before trade was done. This measure was implemented so that it would give client an ADDITIONAL opportunity to change or cancel the trade. The same day, a TRADE CONFIRMATION was sent to confirm the trade was executed as per client's initially authorized trade. 6. On Feb 8, 2007 A CIS SPECIAL grains report was sent to client (approved by Dorman's compliance) confirming the BULL MARKET IN GRAINS! 7. On Feb 11, 2007 client responded with an email, "Patrick, interesting report, should I be buying more?, Thanks, the client." 8. On March 5, 2007 Client requested to close account and a check for the amount of $1000 was sent. 9. On April 25, 2007 client wanted to reopen his account and his commission was reduced from $65 per round turn to $35 in order to help him out. 10. On May 2, 2007 the client sent a letter apologizing for not responding to a margin ($1,100) call that was in violation of NFA rules for more than 3 days on a trade authorized by client. 11. On May 10, email was sent to Mr. Montes by the client regarding margin call, "I acted rashly in typing the letter I sent you. I will continue to use Patrick as my broker." Please note since account was initiated and opened with Fox/Man and Dorman. Every trade has been verified, taped and confirmed on email with time and price discretion.

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