Truth Rocket
Washington D.C. ,#2Consumer Comment
Sun, April 10, 2016
So you lost no money yet you file what is called a "ripoff report?"Seems a bit malicious to say the least...
If the school were to accept students without proper qualifications and/or transcipts it would be the other students that were being "ripped off" not you, since they had to meet the school's admittance guidelines properly.
Bottom line- Newburgh Theological Seminary has made great strides towards being the best program of its kind.
In fact, the current faculty and roster of recent graduates attests to this truth.
Luis
Hobart,#3General Comment
Sun, September 08, 2013
I have attempted to gain entry to the Masters program in Christian Counselling at NTS on several occassions. Admittedly, I do not have a first Bachelors degree, however I do have extensive vocational Diploma studies in the fields of Psychotherapy, Counselling, Addiction, various other therapies ie. CBT, DBT, etc., and Mental Health. I also currently work as a Nurse in a Psychiatric Unit at a government Hospital. You would think that this would somewhat qualify me for entry without a first degree.
However, various emails from NTS assure me that according to their accrediting body, whoever they may be, NTS will not be able to admit any student who does not have a first Bachelors degree.
From the posts I have been reading about NTS it appears that due to their enrolment policy re: 'the work of Chris', some of the current students don't even have the capability to construct and author academically acceptable papers. I suspect that it's only due to the fact that they are able to pay the hefty fees that NTS want for their curriculum, which brings me to my next point.
If in earning a NTS degree, and if it was as simple as reading a bunch of books, 8 in total, by obscure authors and even more obscure subjects, and then summarising what had been read into approximately 20 pages with commentary on how the book had 'impacted' your life, then I could have gone to Amazon.com, bought, downloaded and read the books myself on Kindle, and then gone to some dodgy Diploma Mill and printed myself a 'NTS' degree and transcript for less than $100US, therefore saving myself approximately $2000US (minus what the Amazon.com books cost). That's still a massive saving and it would look good on my wall.
The point is this: why should anyone go to the lengths, in which NTS want you to go through just to gain enrolment into the college in the first place, and thereafter, do so little work leading up to your degree. No tutorials, no quizzes, no exams, no visa viz, no requirement for evidence based practice (especially with the counselling courses) and at the end of all that, no real reputation in the name of NTS.
In conclusion I offer up the following scenario (based on the NTS model):
1. Find a Diploma mill and print myself various Bachelors, Masters, and PhD qualifications from reputable schools (a total of under $500US)
2. Develop my own website and call it 'Wales Theological College'. The more bells and whistles, the better
3. Develop curriculum for various degree courses which are relevant to both religious and non religious subjects (get creative with this; you could develop a degree in Cristian Rock Music)
4. For each course developed, find 8-10 books on Amazon.com which could cover the subject matter/material
5. Write up a 3-5 page multiple choice exam based on each book and an assessment paper of about 50-100 pages for the final thesis (make it somewhat legitimate and a bit challenging)
6. Charge a flat fee of $1000US for Bachelors, Masters, and PhD degrees (I'd pay that much)
7. Create my own accreditation body (Use your friends as goveners of the body; if they're scattered globally, even better, and if they don't have degree qualifications, please go to step 1 above)
There you have it. Is this a facetious and sarcastic attempt at ridicule towards NTS? It may be; only you, the wise and cautious consumer can be the judge of my take on NTS and their 'scam'; there, I said it. Hopefully I did not offend any persons with this assumption.
Let me close with the following warning: Caveat emptor-Let the buyer be aware. A warning that notifies a buyer that the goods he or she is buying are 'as is' or subject to all defects.
bwebb44
Englewood,#4General Comment
Wed, July 25, 2012
My experience with Newburgh is that they are a real school. They have an admission's office and a process of registering new students. They reviewed my transcript and verified that my previous school exists. If their procedures were similar to a lot of other schools they would have simply taken your money without verifying your transcript. Why don't you simply call the admission's department and say you would like to make an appointment with the advisor or any of the other advisors? I have found that someone has always returned my calls. Most college/seminary employees work different schedules. I am sure that if you call and say "I can be reached at a certain day and time that someone will call. Or, why don't you simply ask for the name of another advisor? If this is how you handle phone tag and life's delays then how do you handle things that are really major?