Complaint Review: ONLINESTOREBIZ.com dropshiponauction.com dropshipdesign.com - Internet

It was one of those really long nights and I didn't even think about researching such a cheaply made site. The things they said made it sound so good to me since I was getting tired and impatient about searching for some products to sell. I was checking out this post and some of this information is really helping me out. When I bought their package I applied for a new domain name. Shouldn't I be the owner of the domain!?!?!? Not only do we supply these scammers money but we are buying them the ownership of some really good domain names that they will make even more profit off of in the future. I'm not saying mine is spectacular or anything, but you get the point. This is the info I got when I was finding out who this domain was registered to, even though I payed for it: Registrant: Sales Team Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States Registered through: Weship2U.com Domain Name: EASYDROPSHIPPING.COM Created on: 26-Sep-05 Expires on: 26-Sep-06 Last Updated on: 26-Sep-05 Administrative Contact: Team, Sales [email protected] Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States 8009210136 Technical Contact: Team, Sales [email protected] Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States 8009210136 Domain servers in listed order: PARK21.SECURESERVER.NET PARK22.SECURESERVER.NET Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

I too was screwed over by this company. It was one of those really long nights and I didn't even think about researching such a cheaply made site. The things they said made it sound so good to me since I was getting tired and impatient about searching for some products to sell. I was checking out this post and some of this information is really helping me out. When I bought their package I applied for a new domain name. Shouldn't I be the owner of the domain!?!?!? Not only do we supply these scammers money but we are buying them the ownership of some really good domain names that they will make even more profit off of in the future. I'm not saying mine is spectacular or anything, but you get the point. This is the info I got when I was finding out who this domain was registered to, even though I payed for it: Registrant: Sales Team Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States Registered through: Weship2U.com Domain Name: EASYDROPSHIPPING.COM Created on: 26-Sep-05 Expires on: 26-Sep-06 Last Updated on: 26-Sep-05 Administrative Contact: Team, Sales [email protected] Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States 8009210136 Technical Contact: Team, Sales [email protected] Weship2u.com Mill Creek, Washington 98012 United States 8009210136 Domain servers in listed order: PARK21.SECURESERVER.NET PARK22.SECURESERVER.NET Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

This look like his real name and information - take note that he has another address - this may be his home address APT 312 - same road but different number Registrant: Bergeron, Martin 16212 Bothell Everett Hwy. Suite #F279 Mill Creek, WA 98012 US Domain Name: MBERGERON.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Bergeron, Martin [email protected] Martin Bergeron 20225 Bothell Everett Hwy #312 Bothell, WA 98012 US 425-488-6738 fax: 123 123 1234

The Suite F289 is actually PMB279 and PMB stands for PonyExpress Mailbox & Business I looked up address in Google that was in the same shopping center and I called and talked to a nice lady who CONFIRMED to me that it is a mailbox drop and there is NO Warehouse - SO YOU ALL ARE BEING SCREWED 16212 Bothell Everett Hwy. Suite #F279 Mill Creek, WA 98012-1219 Take Care and BEWARE of others who use deception... I hate deception - here is my pet peave - I get a spam email - in the subject the spammer put in RE: or some type of trickery so I would open his email - Well here is how I see it - If someone LIES to me, prior to ever even introducing themselves to me, WHY in the HECK would I want to do business with them! I hope this sums it up!

Has anyone here confirmed a mailing address on this company - a real address - Please let us know here

Before I do business with anyone I always check them out - One way is by check their whois info and see if thay have anything to hide - This company sure does - I have seen some bad info but this company is the worst of the worst - ---- One of their sites ------ Domain name: dropshipdesign.com Registrant: peter caradonna (UFDY3) [email protected] onlinestorebiz.com LLC NA NA, NA 00000 United States Phone: +1 (425)3376893 Administrative Contact: peter caradonna (9ENZZ) [email protected] onlinestorebiz.com LLC NA NA, NA 00000 United States Phone: +1 (425)3376893 Technical Contact: Martin Bergeron (3ZME6) [email protected] onlinestorebiz.com LLC NA NA, NA 00000 United States Phone: +1 (305)8160222 Billing Contact: peter caradonna (UFDY3) [email protected] onlinestorebiz.com LLC NA NA, NA 00000 United States Phone: +1 (425)3376893 Record last updated on 2005-03-11 00:00:00 Record created on 2004-02-27 00:00:00 Record expires on 2006-02-27 00:00:00 Domain servers in listed order: ns1.abac.com 216.55.128.4 ns2.abac.com Registration Service Provider: AplusNet(APRO) [email protected] http://www.aplus.net Registrar: NAMES4EVER, http://www.names4ever.com ---------end--------------------------------- Here is anothe name they use to go by and now using other to hide themselves again ----------- Another name ---------------- Registrant: xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235 US 121232132 Domain Name: ONLINESTOREBIZ.COM Administrative Contact: xxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxx [email protected] xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235 US 121232132 Technical Contact: xxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxx [email protected] xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235 US 121232132 Record last updated 07-01-2003 01:25:26 AM Record expires on 01-29-2006 Record created on 01-29-2003 Domain servers in listed order: NS.WEBHOSTINGNT.COM 63.107.178.11 NS1.WEBHOSTINGNT.COM 63.107.178.12 --------end----------------------- This tells me these guys are RIPOFFS - SO WATCH OUT PEOPLE

I know nothing about ONLINESTOREBIZ.com, dropshiponauction.com, Dropshipdesign.com in fact I was doing a little research on them as I was thinking of using their service to expand my business. Some would have you believe drop shippers are rip off artists. I am sure there are some that are, but in my experience the ones I use are far from that. They are B&M (Brick and mortar) businesses trying to expand their markets. I run a very successful website that is 100% drop ship. My orders come in, payment authorization is made via CC and I place my order. Once notification of shipment is made I charge the buyers card. Ebay has no rules against drop shipping, but they do have rules about non-shipping of product, these rules apply to all sellers. I also sell on eBay (very little, but it is good advertising) and every sale has been a drop ship. Using drop ship as a business model can be very profitable, but you have to do your due-diligence. Always make sure the drop shipper has plenty of inventory on an item if you are going to use eBay as a sells vehicle. Try to limit your auctions to five days on low priced or commodity items this way there is a good chance the item will be in stock once your item sells. Some drop shippers specialize in eBay and will hold an item while your auction is ongoing. When looking for a drop shipper, sign up and place a small order to see how the process works before doing anything else. Some Drop shippers charge a small fee to join their drop shipping program. In some cases $50.00 or less, this is to weed out the tire kickers, it does cost money to set up your account. Be mindful of any drop ship packaging fees when pricing your auction. In any business and especially in the drop ship world, ask questions of the company before doing business with them. If your only contact is by e-mail, I would not deal with them. If you have an issue with your order, call the drop shipper, not email them. If you think you get a lot of spam think how much e-mail they get with yours stuck in there somewhere. I get about 100 spam messages a day. Oh one other thing, if you get notification of shipment with a tracking number from the drop shipper, it has shipped. How long do you think it would be before the feds stepped in if they were shipping empty boxes? Come on Paul, stop being so cynical, not all drop shippers are rip-offs ALl the best,

Let me begin by saying that I am an OWNER of a Drop-ship-design outlet website and by what I have read from the first post about the company that I signed on with sounded as if the person may have been at this ebay selling for maybe 2 weeks if not less. The way it works is fundamental, you pick an Item, DO SOME PRICE POINT RESEARCH, make an auction ad, Place the Ad on ebay or Overstock auctions OR where ever you want. When the Item sells, the bidder pays me through pay pal. When I have a confirmation from my pay pal account that the bidder has paid for the item I then place the order. It is stated to all the user of my website and on my auctions that this process can be TIME Consuming due to some factors such as; Bidders pay-pal account may have to draw out of a checking account rather the bidder having money all ready set into the pay-pal account, this could cost two to three days before I get a confirmation of payment, resulting in a delay of the shipment. The moment I receive confirmation of the payment the order is placed with dropshipdesign, and again another time consuming operation begins, the order is sent to the warehouse and is packaged, this may take two days depending on the time that the order was sent by me at the most three days. At the latest on the third day I receive from UPS ground a tracking number for an Item that they haven't even pick up yet, but are on the way to get it. Doing the math at the most with a delayed payment the packaging could take up to seven days, again a lot of this could be avoid if the bidders would store their auction monies in their pay-pal account. Along with just being a member or owner of a dropshipdesign website there are some plus sides to it, there are news letters explaining the in's and out's basically the how to do its info letters and in them comes ideas on other things to do also. I would say maybe six months went by before I changed my e-mail address to a new account with yahoo, when I found these newsletters. Is it DSD fault my Spam guard was dumping them in my old e-mail account, no it was mine. As far as the polices of this web site, I see some violations in this link many with assumptions, one post calls it a scam with no background information what so ever, kind of reminds me of a courthouse hanging in an old movie. I have sent a link to the CEO of dropshipdesign to bring this to his attention, yes I have his e-mail address and I also have e-mail address to my sales team who have no problems with helping me with problems I have, will they hold my hand and tell me to decide what I should do with my website NO, but they will advisee me about decision that I do make, I find Tim Knox's advice very helpful. Many who have signed on with DSD have problems, believe me I know because when someone buys a package I send them email letting them know I have been where they are at and I explain how to get started and to never have the to do ebay or die idea, or to have the idea that they have arrived on easy street and it is time to sit back and rake in the cash. Anything and everything takes work, be it making ads for ebay or researching price points, you will have to apply something to make it with ANY WEBSITE on the Internet, but many fail to understand this, but as you may see your still reading this, have I made my point yet? I do very little on ebay, because I like seeing the buyers face to face, I well stock orders for flea markets, and I will sell at a higher price point than what I would on ebay any day, but again that is my choice, for e-bay is ONE way to sell the 7,000 plus Items that I sell. Regards,

You seem to think these frauds are running a real company. That you will really make any kind of money from this drop ship nonsense. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was a scam from the very beginning. At $80 or $100 from each sucker, times 100 people a week, one or two people can make 8 to 10 grand. That's not bad. Especially when there is no actual product or sales to worry about. Why do you think the prices are higher than similar items that are already on ebay? That should tell you something, right? You see, they don't want you to actually sell anything. Once you send in your money, they are done with you. Most people figure out they've been conned before they actually start any auctions. But, if you want to run the whole course, give it a shot. Get an ebay account. Place your auction for items that you don't already own. BTW, ebay forbids that. Here's why. Let's suppose the auction runs to its conclusion. The buyer sends you payment in full. You promptly send payment to the frauds. They have a good laugh at your expense. Naturally, nothing is ever sent out. Why the hell would they send anything? It's you who owe the buyer, not them. The frauds will send an email telling you that the item was shipped. You pass that along to the buyer. A week later, the buyer messages back claiming to have received nothing. At this point, the frauds will ignore you. Here's where you stand then. You don't have an item to send. You don't have the money that the buyer sent you. And, both ebay and paypal are looking at you as a fraud. Even if you explain the whole deal, you'll look like a complete idiot. Ebay will kick you the hell out. First, they'll deduct the payment from your bank, to refund the buyer. It ends up as fraud squared. Or even cubed. The frauds are laughing. You are crying. Ebay is pissed. The buyer is pissed. The cops may even come knocking at your door. You have lost several hundred dollars. What part of this sounds like a good deal? In the future, do yourself a favor. Before you buy into any of this nonsense, come here and file a report. Request that you want someone to explain how the fraud works. That way, you'll find out the details before you lose any money.

Hi Linda! About a month ago I signed up for the same dropship ebay package you did, except it cost me $99 instead of $79....they raised it, I guess? I got really worried when I saw your report, as I have just had two auctions end with winning bidders for items I ordered from dropshiponauction.com. I immediately went back to the emails I have that confirmed my two orders...entered the order numbers into the "track order" or whatever it's called section of the site. The details of each order came up when I submitted the order numbers, along with their respective tracking numbers. When I clicked on each tracking number, it took me to the UPS website, and both my tracking numbers reported the items to be in transit and due to arrive this Friday. I will watch out for confirmation from my buyers that they received their items...I'll update you, er, or if you want to guarantee that I'll remember, leave your contact info or email me at dnomin8r65 NO SPAM AT comcast DOT net. Good luck, and wish me luck as well'.'