Complaint Review: Phil Sears - Laguna Niguel California

Number One : I find it interesting that several different people, none of whome posted the original post, have all decided to publish a retraction

Number Two : This post does not show up in a GOOGLE SEARCH

First off ----I am the "ORIGINAL" author of the opening post on this blog and "John" copied it off another blog.  I failed but I meant to play devils advocate on the other blog but when it was copied and posted here it lost something because it is missing the other posts on that blog. Yeah-The blog was about third party authenticators and they are biggest screw job companies out there.. This Guy Phil Sears is highly respected  and I am so sorry my message was copied and reposted here- If John wants to play George Washington and confess to stealing utilities then by all !@#$%ing means. A simple SORRY and to let viewers know that the opening post was 100% crapola-that is false as posted. Phil Sears is an honest individual and he has a wonderful reputation . Very Sorry about that Mr. Sears !

**RETRACTION**Please Read***My name is John Reynolds..I HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANY ITEMS FROM PHIL SEARS OR FROM ANY OF HIS STORES. I recently admitted to these activities.. recently I got caught tagging a building, pirating Cable and Internet Services using a pie dish and driving an un-registers car and got to come clean on some of the postings I did on newsgroups like this forum.

I AM MAKING THIS STATEMENT OF MY OWN VOLITION...NO ONE HAS CONTACTED ME ABOUT THIS POST
I get get nailed for hacking an account and illegal Bit Torrent Downloads and stealing an ID onlie but those activities have NOTHING to do with this posting. I am setting the record straight. I have NEVER done any business with Phil Sears. He was mentioned on a PRIVATE forum with respect to a debate about online authentication verses seeing an object for real. I copied the Original Post off a PRIVATE password protected forum but out of context and some wording changed or removed.

I posted my original report using an email account that I Hacked into . I hacked into comcast I hacked into WI FI   I downloaded things That I should not have such as movies music And bought things using a Hacked PAYPAL COUNT  plus other things that I got snagged on...My Retraction is the REAL DEAL HERE ! I want to fix everything and be square.

The Original Post was copied in part off a PRIVATE news group forum. There was a debate about online opinions and the post was copied off that forum and was out of context . The fact is online opinions do not hold water because images are pixelated and will never look natural. Never. You can't really tell from a screen shot. I took information from that forum and reposted it on this forum  but out of context and with information missing. The orignal post is incorrect and should be ignored.

Phil Sears has an outstanding reputation . Phil sears is considered THE EXPERT regarding Walt Disney Handwwriting . Phil Sears only studied Disney for three decades and he is not an autograph dealer , he is a WALT DISNEY MEMORIABILIA DEALER so the only autograph he sells is DISNEY and he knows DISNEY better that anyone else . PHIL SEARS offers a lifetime Guaranty on everything he sells and can can count on everything that man sells as be 100% Authentic. There are hundreds of web sites that give PHIL SEARS credit . 

MY ORIGINAL POST SHOULD BE IGNORED !!!  SEVERAL REBUTTALS OF FORMER CUSTOMERS OF PHIL SEARS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES !!!!  IT IS TESTIMONY TO PHIL SEARS INTEGRITY THAT CUSTOMERS WOULD REBUT MY FALSE STATEMENT.

Phil Sears is listed on IMDb and he is actually a celebrity himself !  He is a well known movie director !! I should have researched this guy before posting a stupid report that has no valid information. He is also mentioned on several sites as an authority on WALT DISNEY handwriting. He has been a consultant to Christies and Sothebys .

 I retract my original journal entry...I copied the information off a news group fourm and changed the wording ...THIS GUY PHIL SEARS IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND IS APPARENTLY IN GOOD TERMS WITH THE DISNEY FAMILY . Everyone he does business with speaks highly of him. I collect baseball cards . I do not even know this guy.

It is my moral duty to apologize to Phil Sears for comments and false accusations made. The comments were copied off a private ,password protected discussion site and taked completely out of context as the debate was about online authenticators that rely on digital screen images that lack clarity regardless of resolution. Based on further online research it seems Phil Sears is highly respected by the DISNEY family and the DISNEY corporation. Again NO ONE has contacted me about this post or this forum and my retraction was done on my own volition .  Consider this a retraction and apology to Phil Sears for false claims made.

**RETRACTION**Please Read***My name is John Reynolds..I HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANY ITEMS FROM PHIL SEARS OR FROM ANY OF HIS STORES. I recently admitted to these activities.. recently I got caught tagging a building, pirating Cable and Internet Services using a pie dish and driving an un-registers car and got to come clean on some of the postings I did on newsgroups like this forum.

I am making this retraction of my own volition and no one has coersed me. I did get snagged for other things and I am trying to do what is right

I posted my original report using an email account that I Hacked into  I hacked into comcast I hacked into WI FI   I downloaded things That I should not have And bought things using a Hacked PAYPAL COUNT  plus other things...My Retraction is the REAL DEAL HERE ! I want to fix everything and be square.

The Original Post was copied in part off a PRIVATE news group forum. There was a debate about online opinions and the post was copied off that forum and was out of context . The fact is online opinions do not hold water because images are pixelated and will never look natural. Never. You can't really tell from a screen shot. I took information from that forum and reposted it on this forum  but out of context and with information missing. The orignal post is incorrect and should be ignored.

Phil Sears has an outstanding reputation . Phil sears is considered THE EXPERT regarding Walt Disney Handwwriting . Phil Sears only studied Disney for three decades and he is not an autograph dealer , he is a WALT DISNEY MEMORIABILIA DEALER so the only autograph he sells is DISNEY and he knows DISNEY better that anyone else . PHIL SEARS offers a lifetime Guaranty on everything he sells and can can count on everything that man sells as be 100% Authentic. There are hundreds of web sites that give PHIL SEARS credit . 

My original posts should be ignored. Several Customer rebuttals speak fo themselves.  Very few dealers would have so many rebuttals to a false report. 

 I retract my original journal entry...I copied the information off a news group fourm and changed the wording ...THIS GUY PHIL SEARS IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND IS APPARENTLY IN GOOD TERMS WITH THE DISNEY FAMILY . Everyone he does business with speaks highly of him. I collect baseball cards . I do not even know this guy. very sorry . 

It should say "Update By Author" if the retraction was truly made by the OP. It says "consumer comment".  Also for location after the name (John)  it should say "Westport Connecticut" but it just says "Westport".

Can the real OP reply?

**RETRACTION**Please Read***My name is John Reynolds..I HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANY ITEMS FROM PHIL SEARS OR FROM ANY OF HIS STORES. I recently admitted to these activities.. recently I got caught tagging a building, pirating Cable and Internet Services using a pie dish and driving an un-registers car and got to come clean on some of the postings I did on newsgroups like this forum.

i retract my original journal entry...I copied the information off a news group fourm and changed the wording ...THIS GUY PHIL SEARS IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND IS APPARENTLY IN GOOD TERMS WITH THE DISNEY FAMILY .  I collect baseball cards . I do not even know this guy. very sorry . 

Wow just found this website.. and has provided great enterainment to us on a boring wet saturday night..  Can i suggest the idiot who wrote notice #23  checks their facts before writing such garbage..  if your going to fake a posting and pretend to be a legal firm at least get the legal number correct  Colleens number is (((ROR redacted)))    Geez will you guys never learn.. 

Im a Brit so im immune from your dumb american laws but seriously   if you wanna make up crap like this.. try and make it believeable..  I personally believe that Phil Sears is prob some little gay guy who lost his boyfriend in some love triangle  and thought he would pretend to be Colleen  or maybe Phil cant write . so what hope as he got of reading.. either way Phil is a looser.. and needs to get a REAL Job!  Come on Americans  Sort yourselves out!!  Im outta here bye!!

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 Phil Sears has a passion for all things related to Walt Disney.  A world-renowned expert in items signed by Walt Disney, for more than 20 years Phil Sears has bought, sold, and authenticated more Walt Disney autographed memorabilia than anyone else in the entire Universe.  As THE Walt Disney expert, Phil Sears has consulted for Sotheby's auction house, Christie's, R & R Auctions, JSA - James Spence Authentication, President Obama, the FBI, CIA and many more.  His customers include the Walt Disney Company and he is proud that even Walt Disney's daughter, Diane Disney-Miller, owns a piece from his collection. Even Michelle Obama has bought drawings from Phil that are now on display in the Oval Office !!!

I see what you are saying. I think personally collectors in general want to know one way or another that their autograph is authentic and I also understand that Phil Sears claims to be an expert when it comes to disneys signatures. That of course in no way shape or form stops people from involving PSA and thats exactly what I would do. Its common sense. Surely if you're going to spend $1500 at a time you're going to want someone else to tell you that its authentic. But obviously some people have received authentic goods from this company. I have seen a few ebay listings selling goods from Phil Sears that have been authenticated by PSA. So its really no secret that theres lots of authentic goods coming from that company and the lifetime money back policy speaks for itself.

Reputable authentication services like PSA/DNA and their competitor JSA are the future of authentication in the autograph hobby. On the current autograph market are  literally millions of signed items good and bad. But we all must respect the opinion of our industry compadresmen and women who are leading experts in their respective field of autograph studyand continuously seek their input on items. PSA DNA has been instrumental in protecting buyers from buying bad items

When an impartial third party reviews an item for a company, or even an individual, theyre providing their independent, expert opinion pertaining to an items authenticity. In case you missed it, the key word here is impartial. Theres no collusion. Theres no conspiracy. And these guys certainly are not incompetent. Theres no hidden agenda the only motive is getting it right. Thats why autograph dealers must use their services.

When it comes to authenticating material, this industry desperately needs a consensus. The more people in agreement over the authenticityor lack thereofof an item, the better. Wouldnt you rather have an item that multiple sources have OKd, rather than something that only one person has, while another four or five may question its authenticity? A signed autograph, authenticated by one man who states that he is the best at authenticating this particular signature and in twenty plus years has only studied this person's signature but knows nothing about other autographs.

Before you start typing your response, Ill happily concede that Mr. Sears built a fortune and a decent reputation by being correct far more than he has been off the mark. Yet, if this well-meaning man does not change and he clearly hates being disagreed with by other experts.

The autograph market isnt the first hobby to face this kind of change. Coin collectors turned up their noses at authenticating and grading; so did card collectors. But talk to your buddies who are involved in these pursuits. Or you may dabble in them yourself. Card and coin collectors lust after those slabbed treasures more than anything else. Got something graded 8.5 by PSA? They immediately want one thats a 9, not only because its better, but also because the experts say that its better.

So why should autograph collectors want anything less? And were not even talking about better but authentic ... the real deal. Not a clever forgery or an autopen or a secretarial example. An autograph they dont get an argument over when they try to sell or consign it.

The new breed of collectors are demanding third-party authentication. Because I said so may work for parents but its no longer going to work for a guy whos asking a ton of money for an autograph who may have nothing, including expertise, to back it up. This is where PSA DNA comes in.

I firmly believe that cultivating relationships with third-party authenticators is essential in keeping our hobby strong. Veteran authenticators arent going to be around forever, and they are going to have to pass on their wisdom to the next generation of authenticators, who right now are honing their skills.

I hope that collectors and forums like this will begin to insist that every dealer of autographs should support an industry-wide third-party system. This is the future and its better to grab it now. Clearly, for some people out there, its understandably going to take some extra time and effort to build that trust, but this is the best solution for cleaning out the garbage and building a safer, more successful hobby for new autograph collectors.

The resistance on the part of some people is understandablebut its counterproductive to the industry as a whole. There is no shame for an experienced dealer to proudly display the beloved PSA DNA logo on his/her autograph web site.  PSA DNA is the future and those dealers who reject third party authentication will risk his/her reputation and soon find themselves locked out of the circle.

I dealt with Phil sears and he has a great love for WALT DISNEY and very very high integrity level for his legacy.

I made dozens of purchases and his itiems were costly but NICE .

His refund policy is strick on autograpgh BUT ,you can reason with him if you talk with him.

As for forgeries ,I highly higly doubt this man would ever do any wrong doing,,,EVER

LOOK AT HIS WEBSITE

He has a true love for WALT ,

THIS GUY IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT CONTINUES WALTS LEGACY AND PROVIDES VINTAGE ITIEMS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY

AS A CUSTOMER I STAND WITH PHIL SEARS AS A HONARABLE AND DEDICATED WALT DISNEY COLLECTOR

THIS REBUTTAL WAS NOT DONE UNDER COERCION NOR DID I SPEAK TO PHIL IN 3 YEARS.

PHIL ,,,SOLD ME BEAUTIFULL ITIEMS

THIS REBUTALL WAS DONE FAIR AND BALANCED

I SPENT THOUSANDS WITH PHIL AND ALL THE ITEMS ARE AWESOME !

CUSTOMER

NEW YORK

Even though the imposter is getting a little better at impersonating a legal advisor or what ever he or she is trying to sound like. But you can tell that the person who wrote the legal notice is also the same person who posted the first one. But since the initial report is proven false I would say that this is an attempt to discredit the company by making them look very very stupid by acting like they are offended by some freak who smears people because they have nothing else better to do.

Please take notice that Phil Sears and Phil Sears Collectibles, LLC ("Phil Sears") has initiated an action in the Orange County Superior Court in California, Case No. 30-2013-00627815-CU-DF-CJC (the "Action"), due to allegedly false statements made by you. In the Action, Phil Sears seeks to subpoena the records of Xcentric Ventures, LLC for your contact information and any other messages that you have posted on the website Rip Off Report, www.ripoffreport.com, under the pseudonym "John" or any other pseudonym, about Phil Sears, to Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, LLP at: 301 E. Fourth Street, Great American Tower, Cincinnati, OH 45202.

Phil Sears has served a subpoena on Xcentric Ventures, LLC, the company that owns and operates this website, to reveal your identity. 

You may have a right to file and serve a response to the subpoena anonymously. If you intend to file and serve a response, please do so, or notify us of your intent to do so, on or before March 19, 2013, by contacting Colleen Devanney, at 513-824-8123 or through fax at 513-852-7828.

Please take notice that Phil Sears and Phil Sears Collectibles, LLC ("Phil Sears") has initiated an action in the Orange County Superior Court in California, Case No. 30-2013-00627815-CU-DF-CJC (the "Action"), due to allegedly false statements made by you. In the Action, Phil Sears seeks to subpoena the records of Xcentric Ventures, LLC for your contact information and any other messages that you have posted on the website Rip Off Report, www.ripoffreport.com, under the pseudonym "John" or any other pseudonym, about Phil Sears, to the Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, LLP at: 301 E. Fourth Street, Great American Tower, Cincinnati, OH 45202.

Phil Sears has served a subpoena on Xcentric Ventures, LLC, the company that owns and operates this website, to reveal your identity. 
You may have a right to file and serve a response to the subpoena anonymously. If you intend to file and serve a response, please do so, or notify us of your intent to do so, on or before March 19, 2013, Colleen M. Devanney, Esq. via email ([email protected] ) or facsimile (513-852-7282).

Fully knowing that you can get your money back at the drop of a dime..........why would anyone burn the proof and be out a ton of money??? Thats because it never happend. That is the origional author grabbing for straws. Willing to pretend to be anyone and say anything to smear a company thats done nothing wrong.

The reason why I stated that Phil Sears is a big company was because of some of my findings circulated on the web. I should have said a "well known company." But in response to your rebuttal I do agree with everything you said. This report is based on smearing someone with no proof and no grounds. If you look at all of the other autograph reports on this site it does not take a genious to notice that this was from the same person but under many different names. The responses make as much sense as the origional report. You can easily pick them apart. Ex-authenticator may have learned a few new tricks but in the end the retard under many names is exposed. Shes not fooling anyone.

As a many time customer of Phil Sears, I find this report to be very questionable. There are many "facts" presented by both the original report, and responses that are simply untrue. Specifically : Phil Sears is NOT a big company. Nor is he part of the Disney Company. However, he is so well respected by the Disney folks that when the Director of Disney Archives has a question about a Walt Signature, he consults Phil Sears. Why ? Because Phil has studied Walt's signature for over 20 years. Further: With an authentic Walt autograph costing over 1500 dollars, it is very doubtful that the fellow that stated that he just burned his alleged Phil Sears fake. Phil Sears offers a 100 per cent Money back guarantee. Having personally met Phil in 2005, and having bought and sold literally 10's of thousands of dollars of Walt memorabilia from and to Phil, I can state without reservation that not one piece of any item has EVER been questioned by fellow Walt collectors when a item has changed hands. And, one of those fellow collectors has a bigger collection than the Walt Disney Museum itself !

I don't know much, if anything about PSA, or what EBay does or does not do. But, I DO know that if you want to make certain that your Walt autograph is REAL, Then Phil Sears is the guy. It's all that he does.

Think about it... Would you trust the guy that has studied one thing only for 20 plus years, or someone who looks at Walt's autograph one minute, and Ben Franklin's the next?

This is an example of PSA DNA ripping another dealer and giving false opinions about his inventory. PSA DNA makes NOTHING on Phil Sears because he authenticates his own items.  Check the internet because time and time again PSA DNA gives opinions on autographs being NOT AUTHENTIC  when the submitter has obtained the item in question IN PERSON.  Anytime to go to a dealers web site and ask PSA DNA for an online opinion then the answer back will be a NAY if that dealer does not use PSA DNA services and PHIL SEARS does not use PSA DNA services so they make no money off him. The OP is assuming that the PSA DNA opinions given  are all correct.

Well if it is ex-authenticator then shes learned a few things but all of the reports follow the same pattern. To add to my previous response to some other things I found on the net is what I noticed people were doing with their purchases. I'm finding it to be pretty common that many people are having their phil sears COA certificate authenticated along with the actual Walt Disney autograph through PSA. I found quite a few of these cases. I guess that combats the theory that these are just being printed at random on some cheap printer that ex-authenticator constantly refers to.

Quit talking in the 3rd person. It drives me nuts. The lawyer rebuttal....or what that was.......is lame. But if you want my honest opnion......if phil sears's company is big then I don't see why they would waste their time. But it could be a shot at undermining phil sears. Another ploy to make them look bad. The well trained eye thing thats in the origional report has been used in the ex-authenticator reports so I just think that its too much of a coincidence to blow by it. If I got a counterfit autograph from them then that company would know very well how I felt in court. Who burns evidence?

Has the answer I think????? As I live here in grand rapids with all the snow I have the oppotunity to dig and answer my own questions. Phil Sears is a pretty big deal. I didn't realise that its a huge company that specificly deals with Disney to a huge extent but whats interesting is that most companys who are selling walt disney autographs got them from Phil sears since they have the exclusive rites. I have found a few accusations of forgeries but for some reason they are just accusations. They do have a lifetime authenticity policy but if you can prove you have a fake then take it to court. That is one of the biggest causes for a company to fall yet no one will. I have also found few listings on ebay that have phil sears disney autographs with clean feedback records? This origional report has also been copied and pasted on scamtop.com which I found rather funny but I'm beginning to wonder if theres a little more to this. Why would you burn your autographs that if used in court can do major pain to a company? PSA was also started in 1991. Thats 22 years ago. And I'm beginning to question the lawyer report as well. Why would a big company send a piddley lawyer to a ripoff site with a really shabby lackluster statement like that?

Are u thinking what I'm thinking about everything thats going on in this report???

This seems to be a giant orgy of crap. The origional report, the lawyer comment, ashleys report, and now this one from the person who got ripped off. Does anyone know this sears's ebay name?

He does not sell fakes then?????

I bought a Disney autograph from this guy several years ago.  Back then PSA DNA was not as big in the autograph industry and unfortunately did not even know about PSA DNA.  A year ago I finally sent some of my autographs to PSA DNA (Very Expensive to do !)  Most of the autographs came back as not authentic but they did give me a separate document for every autograph that explained why they determined the autographs to be fakes.  The Walt Disney autograph that I bought from Phil turned out to be one of the fakes.  I did not want anyone else to get burned so I burned all the autographs. Phil seemed like a nice guy on the phone but he just doesn't know autographs very well.   PSA DNA has authentication experts that go to school for as many years as doctors to learn how to authenticate signatures.  I trust PSA DNA completely.   I stopped collecting autographs and I wish I had not blown so much money on them.

I made a purchase from this particular seller that 3 years ago. I purchased a snow white poster with Walt Disney's signature. It did come with COA that was listed with it. My collection however consists of autographs that received COA's from PSA. I do tend to target autograph pieces that come with other second hand COA's. Once I receive my piece its then sent off to PSA. I personally do not care for other companys other than PSA. My poster did get authenticated by PSA. So I have no complaints and my daughter loves it. I do not agree with the lawyer comments. You can't fend off s**t with s**t in return. Hopefully happy customers can clear the air a bit. One more thing that I wanted to point out regairding Steven's post. I have dealt with the same issues with the quick opinion. I did at one come across a seller who sold a piece to me without a COA and PSA did a "quick opinion" and they were wrong. "Likely authentic" turned out to be fake when I sent it to them. So by all means if you want a "quick opinion " then you're getting what paid for. But we shouldn't judge people because of what someone thinks. It must be an actual con before we start pointing fingers.

I do not see any reason or possibility to even beleive that lawyers would put up a statement in plain view. More than likely its a friend of the person that s being accused or the seller himself who is obviously mad. I would be pissed to if someone puts up an online report with no specific ripoff transaction or no proof at all. But the fact of the matter is that this is disadvantage of the reliability of these specific reports. If your competitor gets ticked or you're just a hater of the industry you can splat a report up just like this one.

How does a law firm PROSECUTE a lawsuit? I'm certain that only a district attorney can prosecute people. Maybe they FILED a lawsuit. That would make more sense. Are these guys real lawyers? I'd ask for some proof here.

And now that I read the report again I can see where you're coming. Very stark similarities between the 2. The ex-aughenticator reports were horrible and smeared random sellers who didn't do anything wrong and this looks like one. Has this person who is listed above done anything wrong? Any one have proof other than a theory?

I have a pretty good size stock of autographs and finally saved up the funds to get my entire collection authenticated. I knew that many of the autographs I had puchased came from ebay. So I submitted my pics to PSA and unfortunantly many came back "not likely authentic." So the fact that it was past 45 days I knew I was stuck so I wanted true documentation to submit to ebay to press it further. To my surprise all were authenticated. There as an issue however. I purchased one off of Amazon and it was "likely authentic".........and it was not. Needless to say I got my $10 back. But here's the problem with this report: it revolves around (as the origional author of this report describes it)

is the quick opinion from PSA or any other company for that matter. It is what it is: a quick opinion. Its to be used more as an initial piece of mind but as I have shown above the method is flawed. Theres also another problem: this reeks of ex-authenticator. This person in particular published a series of sad reports about ebay sellers who were doing nothing wrong. She was also caught useing multiple ripoff report accounts to try to add credibility to her own reports but this is nothing new to her reports if this is indeed her. Same weird sentences and the same "this could be printed on a home printer" accusation. Pretty weird isn't it?

PSA is PSA. There have been those who will try to fend off their reputation but their reliability is unmatched. The best way to provide proof that your autograph is real its done through PSA 99% of the time. That speaks for itself.

I wanted to respond to all the ignorant comments on this forum.   I have posted a real Walt Disney certified autograph for anyone to use for comparing . This one is on a card cut . It was cut off a book cover. PSA has it described as a collector card. It has been authenticated and certified by PSA and the certificate number is#12194432. This is a real example. I hope that this example is of help to anyone buying a genuine Disney signature.

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The false accusations in this posting have been written by someone attempting character assassination on Mr. Sears.  Mr. Sears has retained the law firm of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP to prosecute a lawsuit against the author of these false statements.

The false accusations in this posting have been written by someone attempting character assassination on Mr. Sears.  Mr. Sears has retained the law firm of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP to prosecute a lawsuit against the author of these false statements.

This is of no great surprise. EBAY has been pulling any signed anything of WALT DISNEY that has a PHIL SEARS COA with it.

PSA DNA has been instrumental in having items removed and certain COAs BANNED from EBAY.

This does not really mean that PHIL SEARS items are fake. It is more of an online political play on the part of PSA DNA to discredit their competitors.

Usually an autograph requires a minimum of an hour to research because not one person walking the earth signs his/her name exactly the same way twice. These "ONLINE QUICK OPINIONS " are completed in only a few minutes.  You do not even know who gave the opinion.

I personally do not trust PSA DNA especially with the strong connection to the MASTRONET  fake Honus Wagner card that PSA authenticated.

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