Bonnie
New Brunswick,#2Consumer Comment
Wed, December 29, 2004
"[[[[[-I Elena Gb say: HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE HERE, Angela you did not say i could give the dog away, i had asked and after no response from you we started our search. And i told you via email (i got that copy in case you forgot) that i would provide you with their contact info, you did not ask for it until after i told you of her death. I didnt give it to you becaues you wanted me to ask them to dig up their dead dog for your "so called law suit" claiming it was indeed because you cared for the breed and wanted to prevent it from hapening again, then tell me why you bred Rhino knowing his litter mate has epilepsy, and one of his full brothers who you call G.P. was born with no rear end, and passed due to complications at a very young age?" _______________________________________________ Here is a post by Angela from the C.C.C. Message Board in regards to the pup G.P. Date Posted: Tue, Feb 17 2004, 15:50:12 Author: Angela Subject: Re: Question for some HONEST breeders In reply to: Pete E 's message, "Re: Question for some HONEST breeders" on Tue, Feb 17 2004, 14:33:59 completely outcrossed. GP had began to make his own anus right after birth. We birth our pups with our vet present as we are lucky to have him as a dear friend. And soon after he birth we thought he would need surgery but before the whelping was over he had a bowel movement had a spincter (sp?) and somewhat made his own anus, it never looked normal. If i knew how to post photos i would for you too see, but i do not know how? Angela [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
Elena
America,#3REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, December 28, 2004
My name is Elena Gb of www.CorsoLuv.com anyone that would like to verify my credibility I would be more than happy to speak with you in person or via email. Visit my site to contact me. This is my reply to Angelas post concering my name, i dont appreciate liars and will do everything i can to bring this topic to light. ____________________________ ____________________________ Angela says: Elena and the dog Conga I gave her at 4months old was infact seen by a vet at least 4 times prior to her mysterious death and never was a heart condition detected. Not to mention this dog was GIVEN away by Elena due to the fact she had company coming over that hated dogs? [[[[ I-Elena Gb say: Conga was not given away because my Grandmother Hated dogs, she is allergic to dogs, BUT Conga was not given away because of that, because we didnt find a suitable home by the time my grandmother visited, my grandmother had to stay with other family. Conga was to be placed in a home long long before the expected visit and Angela knew it, she was supposed to meet us half way to pick her up on several different occasions, well after at least 2 months of waiting on her to get her car running, or her friend to drive her to meet us we had no choice but to start looking for a new home for her. After at least 10 good interviews and 2 weeks of families in our area we chose 1 young family with prior mastiff experience and had a male lab mix rescued from the shelter.She did very well for the short time she was there, we visited her and each time she was happy go lucky in her own yard wtih ther newly adopted brother.]]]]] Angela Says: Wow I was beside myself to say the least, I held back whet I felt was my most promising female pup from a litter she wanted a pup from, she had no money for vet care I paid it all, I also paid for her to enter her own dog in a dog show as again she had no money, [[[[[- I Elena Gb say: Hahah this is news to me, because the Vet care is the responsibility of the breeder is it not? Until the pup is of age to go to a forever home? Humm , i might be mistaken, either way no money was ever ever ever asked of us because we would have been more than happy to pay it so how could we have said we didnt have any if none was ever asked of us? And this show fee, I tried to pay her at the show, because that is where we met her in jan. 2004. But she refused to take the money saying and i quote " no dont worry about it, i took care of it already for ya" and this was in a friendly way, nothing rude, or upset because she paid, and if she was so upset she should have took my money then.]]]]] Angela said: her and her husband were on their 3rd child with no jobs and no home, so Conga stayed with me until they were ready. I liked Elena and wanted to help her start something special with the breed. Each and every time they were to come pick her up as we agreed that she would be picked up at 8weeks so she can start proper foundation training with the dog as with mastiff breed s it is VERY important. [[[[[- I Elena Gb say: we were not even pregnant at this time! We didnt even find out we were pregnant until March of 2004. So I would like to know how she knew at this point that we were to become pregnant? And Angela is the one who contacted me back in June July of 2003 asking if i was still looking for a CC, because she wanted to give us a pup from one of her litters if we were interested. Yes she was FREE but not because i asked for her, she was offered to us. Even though we were unable to pick her up at 8 weeks, and said to Angela that we should maybe pass so she can get into a home to start bonding (me being with this breed since 1993 i know very well how important early socialization is) and we can just either get a pup from another litter or wait as we didnt want to rush into anything. She insisted she would be glad to hold her for us, just to let her know when we could make it up. ]]]]] Angela says: Every weekend that was planned something came up mostly no gas money or sickness, now I was getting people down my back for even wanting to continue this relationship with Elena if she could not afford gas money, but I had felt good about her as a person and wanted to see better things for her. [[[[[-I Elena Gb say: Angela knows good and darn well that our babysitter canceled on us 3 times in a row that we were to come up, and on the 4th attempt our son came down with pneumonia and was in the hospital, so for her to say sickness like it was a cop out, is very low of her, even lower than i had expected, even for her. And I will say to you Angela please dont ever come face to face with me, because its one thing when you talk about me, but a whole differnt ball game when you make light of a serious situation with my children! And what is this see better things for me? There was nothing bad about my situation other than the lack of quality dogs to start a breeding program, which i have yet to do by the way because of the poor selection of CC as a foundation stock. I want it to be as perfect as possible, not settle for whatever i get.]]]]] Now I gave her permission to give the dog away to another family and trusted her judgment, I also asked for a full name, number and address of the new owners and STILL have not gotten. I also asked that the dog be spayed ASAP and was told she was just prior t her death at 10months. [[[[[-I Elena Gb say: HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE HERE, Angela you did not say i could give the dog away, i had asked and after no response from you we started our search. And i told you via email (i got that copy in case you forgot) that i would provide you with their contact info, you did not ask for it until after i told you of her death. I didnt give it to you becaues you wanted me to ask them to dig up their dead dog for your "so called law suit" claiming it was indeed because you cared for the breed and wanted to prevent it from hapening again, then tell me why you bred Rhino knowing his litter mate has epilepsy, and one of his full brothers who you call G.P. was born with no rear end, and passed due to complications at a very young age? And I never once told you she was spayed! I told you they were going to have her spayed, but never once did I say yes angela she is SPAYED! So where did you get that from??? Angela says: Now any vet would notice a heart problem as 10months during the pre-screen check up, that is common practice of any vet. I also asked for an autopsy to be done the day of the death as I was notified and never was one pre formed, I offered to pay all costs for this Autopsy as it was important for me to know why a 10month old healthy pup would just fall to her death? I have come to the suspicion that either Conga died from infection from the surgery to spay her or is still alive today as never did I get any contact info on the owners of her now, This is not how anyone should handle this situation. [[[[- I Elena Gb say: u say this dog was official blah blah blah, but never once seen any papers, i couldnt when we visited because you were in teh midst of moving, and you never did email me a copy of anything like i requested, and of her parents as well. You said you would (have that email saved too, again in case you would forget) No autopsy was preformed because the dog had been dead for about 1 week when I got in touch with you to tell you, and i was not going to ask them to dig up their dead already burried dog. You can come to whatever suspicion you wish, but she did not die from infection of any sugery, and she is no longer walking this earth. Tell me mrs. profession ethical crap breeder how would you have handled the situation? By not responding to emails?, not answering the phone? or making law suit threats??? So in conclusion I say this, if we truly were indeed homeless folks with no money to care for our dogs why in Gods name would you save your so called pick female for a home not worty of taking care of her properly? And why would you insist upon holding her for us? Why was this dog not properly socialized? Why was she a submissive peeing dog, and timid to where she was scared of her own shadow? Poor Conga it wasnt her fault, she was sweet but surley not what you claimed by being alpha female in the litter? And if indeed she was the alpha female i would hate to see the rest of the temps you produce. Can anyone that owns your dogs prove they have official paperwork? I have yet to find a single one, and I was never shown papers because of you moving, or lack of sending them my way. So please do if you can prove you have papers for your dogs then do so, but let me say why are none of your American dogs able to provide them at shows or events, and freezing any hope of completing in any area of work/show/sport? Nor have I found any of your Canadian dogs to have paperwork either. Please just stop your silly little lies about me, im not losing sleep over them, but if you must continue you be d**n sure to leave my kids and family out of this, you have a beef with me you take it up with me. I welcome you to do so face to face with me next we meet if you are up to it? I do not hide behind my computer with false threats, I mean what I say and say what I mean. To everyone reading this I apologize for this drama in the CC world I have again participated in but I cannot stand to see lying unethical breeders produce unhealthy puppies and sucker folks into buying their dogs. I am not a breeder, nor do I know when I will be even thought being with the Corso since 1993, I cannot say I have had the right chance to find and keep stock I would breed. So what do I have to lose? Business? lol no and if I were a breeder it surely wouldn't refer MY BREEDING PROGRAM to as a business such as ANGELA has done by saying that people are just trying to keep business away, but breeding should not be a business. Breeding should be a hobby with ethics and a true passion with concern to help protect a breed from becoming a back yard project that is banned from ownership as well as any positive light. I do have 2 businesses and I would like to think I would not run my breeding program like I run my dog supply store or my web design company. I would also like to think claiming to be an ETHICAL BREEDER one would have no problem providing all the offical paperwork and tests preformed on their dogs. EVERYONE NEEDS TO DEMAND THE PAPERWORK, NEVER TAKE A BREEDERS WORD FOR IT, TALK IS CHEAP AND ANYONE CAN SAY THEY HAVE PAPERWORK. This one is for you Conga & Fila! In loving memory of Conga and all the others from this kennel called Rustic that have had to suffer by the hands of an UNETHICAL BREEDER and poorly bred genetics. Regards,
S.n.
Bucyrus,#4Consumer Suggestion
Thu, December 16, 2004
Aside from the fact that this particular breeder appears to be selling sick or unhealthy canines, I am more than concerned that these dogs are being bred and sold and she isn't even sure who has the dog that she sold? We are talking about a Mastiff here and although I am not familiar with this particular breed of Mastiff, I assume it is a large breed dog that can be aggressive? Are you, Angela, selling dogs without having them spayed/neutered? Are you not using an identification system that can trail back to you? Are you not using an iron clad contract that ensures your dogs do not end up in shelters or dumped? In one instance you stated that if the sick dog were a child the authorities would have stepped in. If you are not keeping track of your sold pups, you are as much to blame as anyone who has purchased a pup from you.
Bonnie
Moncton,#5Consumer Comment
Thu, December 16, 2004
For proof that Angela Canning of Rustic Kennels is using fake PennHIP Scores please copy and paste these links to the following sites. Articles, links and PICTURES of the fake PennHIP used for her Cane Corso Aragron plus a picture of a dog breed by Rustic with bad hips and legs. Black & White List: http://www.notjustdogs.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=DogBnW_bd Rip-Off Report #119366: Has PICTURES http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff119366.htm Rustic Rip-Off: http://groups.msn.com/RusticKennels/_whatsnew.msnw You may also contact PennHIP at the following e-mail address to confirm they do not have hip scores for Rustic. [email protected] ATTN: Shirley Thank you, Bonnie
Angela
Beeton,#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, October 31, 2004
I posted this months back in regards to their out right lie on their website about my stud dog. Never once have they attempted to respond to what i have said in regards to the truth, the fact is well known in regards to their female having hip dysplasia and being bred. Many others including buyers have asked to see the proof of her reults and they will not show anyone. They know that since we often win at all the shows we attend and having made most of the first landmarks in the breed with our dogs and dog we sold to our customers , this puts us at the top of the hate list from our breeders in our breed that they could try to put the fucus our our stud dog so people would stop looking at them. The results for my stud dog are on my website and his offical xrays are also there for viewing. --------------------------------------------- To clear up a great misconception in regards to why I turned down allowing blusteel cane corso's from using my stud Aragorn on their female. This so called breeder states she backed out when in fact TRUTH is I did. She also states she backed out since I would not offer her hip certification proof. I decided not to use her dog Magic since she produced not so good in her past litters, plus she has very very poor hips herself, and lacks breed type greatly as many of her offspring do. The female has no other health tests nor critiques or temperament testing ALL things very important to us. For BluSteel kennels here is Aragorn's hip information. Please act professional and remove the FALSE information on your website, WE ARE NOT breeding to your dog. Generally I would not bother wasting my time with silly rumors as this one, but after a few people have asked me clear up this matter, I decided to do just that. This is part of why we choose not to offer stud service unless the people are working with us, we want only quality dogs being produced. This breeder has been very upset and angry that i ill not allow hr to use my stud dog but facts are facts and truth is truth, her dogs are NOT to standard, no showing, no temperament tests, poor hip scores and truthfully nothing to offer the breed in the state it is in. I care about the breed and not what others in the breed think, and Blustel breeding dilutes to dilutes and inbreeding on poor dogs shows they do not.
Angela
Beeton,#7REBUTTAL Owner of company
Wed, October 27, 2004
This is a response from Angela Canning, owner of Rustic Kennels. First off I do not understand how a person can post things about me that I do not know, never have done any business with nor ever spoke to online? William from NY, who are you ? Why are you hiding behind a false name? I will start by first commenting that most of these things put here on this bulletin have been posted all over the internet by a guy named Cardnyll Synn ( nice nick name) also know as Lee Brum, he resides in Ontario, Canada and is well known on the internet as what is referred to a bulletin board warrior, he posts when intoxicated and attacks people/breeders with no real proof or back up to his claims, often he uses threats, very foul languages and behaves totally inappropriate for an adult. Lee approached me about 1 year ago for a pup I had forsale and then sold prior to his response, he met me once at a dog show and was not a pleasant person to talk with due to his over enlarged ego, I still was very friendly and talked with him answering all the questions he had at the time. Elena and the dog Conga I gave her at 4months old was infact seen by a vet at least 4 times prior to her mysterious death and never was a heart condition detected. Not to mention this dog was GIVEN away by Elena due to the fact she had company coming over that hated dogs? Wow I was beside myself to say the least, I held back whet I felt was my most promising female pup from a litter she wanted a pup from, she had no money for vet care I paid it all, I also paid for her to enter her own dog in a dog show as again she had no money, her and her husband were on their 3rd child with no jobs and no home, so Conga stayed with me until they were ready. I liked Elena and wanted to help her start something special with the breed. Each and every time they were to come pick her up as we agreed that she would be picked up at 8weeks so she can start proper foundation training with the dog as with mastiff breed s it is VERY important. Every weekend that was planned something came up mostly no gas money or sickness, now I was getting people down my back for even wanting to continue this relationship with Elena if she could not afford gas money, but I had felt good about her as a person and wanted to see better things for her. Now I gave her permission to give the dog away to another family and trusted her judgment, I also asked for a full name, number and address of the new owners and STILL have not gotten. I also asked that the dog be spayed ASAP and was told she was just prior t her death at 10months. Now any vet would notice a heart problem as 10months during the pre-screen check up, that is common practice of any vet. I also asked for an autopsy to be done the day of the death as I was notified and never was one pre formed, I offered to pay all costs for this Autopsy as it was important for me to know why a 10month old healthy pup would just fall to her death? I have come to the suspicion that either Conga died from infection from the surgery to spay her or is still alive today as never did I get any contact info on the owners of her now, This is not how anyone should handle this situation. As for the so called parvo , never have I had parvo in my kennel or any of my dogs here and sold come down this the well known parvo virus, this is just another anonymous poster trying to defame my kennel and keep business away. Now somewhere he met up with Alexis and she told him about Fila, a female who has grade 2 hip dysplasia, and a torn cruciate ligament in her knee. Now when Fila was approximately 10 months her owners contacted me to tell me she was not well and having problems walking and said the vet they saw with Fila told them it was growing pain, they asked me if that could be so, I said yes but if you feel unsure get another opinion. They did not. Here is an email from Fila's owners; PLEASE NOTE DATES David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Fila Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 03:25:10 -0700 Today was one of the worst days of my life. We took Fila to get x rayed to get the final say on what is going on with her back end ,and of course , it turns out she is displastic AND her knees are completely screwed up, there is no fluid between the joints. I have spent the day in tears with the realization that we do not have the 13 000 dollars it would take to fix her up, and her pain is only going to increase. the vet said she would probably be crippled within a year. Its not the money we spent on her that upsets me, it is the fact that we have to watch her day after day trying to move properly and her body just cant do it, she bails often when she is playing with other dogs, and she just has the most amazing spirit that loves to play, but she just cant do it. Now she is having a reaction to the drugs they gave her to take the x rays with and she is shaking in her back end and looks crazy. she tried to bite me(well she did break the skin) when i was wiping her face, and she has NEVER done that before. its like she is a different dog, and untrustable. i dont know if she is doing this out of pain, or is just messed up from the drugs. She has always whined appearently for no reason and now we wonder if she is doing this because she is in pain. tonight we were faced with the reality of putting her down. THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are very upset. she is our baby. We have an appt to get her spayed on wed, but now we are afraid to put her under anesthetic again, because we are affraid she will be dangerous again, and we dont even know if THIS will even "wear off"she is also starting to swell on her skin( she has these reactions) We were getting her spayed beacuse we wouldnt possibly consider breeding her, but now we dont even know if there is much point. its all very confusing and emotional. we have changed our mind about getting another dog and would like a refund instead. No amount of money can undo the emotional damage and we trust that you will remove our reference letters from your site.Its too bad things worked out like this and i hope that you try to make sure that this doesn't happen to other people. Sincerely, David & Alexis My comments on this email is the vet states she will be crippled in one years time, now we have gone well past the one year mark and the woners recently posted photos, I will get copies of , of their two dogs playing in the back yard, and if the dog exhibited this much pain for so long why was this poor animal left with no vet care? I am sorry but denial just does not cut it. If Fila were a child the authorities would have stepped in. next email. "David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fila Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:38:38 -0700 Angela, well Fila would lay there and whine and we thought maybe she was just bored, but now we think maybe all this time she was in pain. you know Angela, we did not want to believe that she had problems, honestly I tried not to think about it for months, I just hoped that one day she wouldn't need the stool to get in and out of the car anymore, and what did I know anyways, I had never raised a puppy before, I didn't know at what point they should be able to jump in and out of a Honda CRV. We just hoped she would grow out of it. you know how it is, nobody thinks that it is going to happen to them, I never wanted to believe it, we just love her so much, it just hurt me too much. it wasn't until about 3 months ago that I had to start facing the reality that her body was not developing properly, and still we were hopeful that she would grow out of it. Fila has always been slim, she weighs about 90lbs. She was always a very picky eater. I mean I was starting to think to myself that if this is what the cane corso breed is like than I will get into another breed, like presa canario or dogo argentino. the vet told us that some displastic dogs live their whole lives through without alot of pain, while others do experience pain. I do recall as she grew up that sometimes she would move well but other times not so well. I don't know anything about OFA or OVC requirements for evaluating xrays, that is just what my vet said, she said that they would want the papers to record which litter the dog came from and so on. anyways I am very happy to hear that your dogs are in excellent shape, I guess that out of a certain number of pups there might be one that is displastic, in this case it just happened to be Fila. it's unfortunate but now we have to deal with it. take care, David David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fila Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:41:32 -0700 Hi Angela, yah I am very happy to see her having fun again, as far as the skin thing goes I figure it may be just some sort of little growth, I mean I have these little skin tags that portude from underneath my armpit, maybe it's just the same type of thing. I will never use that medication again, that was scary! she was crazy, and she seemed to ave 'flashbacks' for about two weeks. so watch out for that stuff, the vet didn't even tell us that the dog may have that reaction, and they told a friend of mine after giving it to her dog not to allow the dog around her children for 24hours! and they didn't tell us anything, really pissed me off!that was dangerous. and Angela, I do understand about the refund, so let me know when to look for it, I assume that you still have my bank info. it's too bad it worked out like this at all. well anyways I wish you guys all the best, talk to you soon, David David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fila Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 14:52:13 -0700 Hi Angela, I received the letter from OVC I tried to scan it for you here it is as an attachment, in case you can't read it this is what it says; "I have reviewed the single ventrodorsal projection of the pelvis of the above mentioned dog which you submitted which was made on may 26, 2003. the radiograph demonstrates that both acetabulae are slightly shallower than normal. the cranial acetabular margin has an abnormally straight contour bilaterally. subluxation of both femoral heads is present with the right being more severely affected than the left. these radiographic abnormalities are consistent with a diagnosis of grade 2 hip diplasyia. in addition, evidence of early remodeling of the femoral neck with periarticular osteophytosis of the femoral heads is present bilaterally. these radiographic abnormalities are secondary to instability of the hip joints as a consequence of hip displaysia." "thank for refering this interesting radiograph. If I can be of any further assistance with this case, please do not hesitate to contact me." your sincerely, Howard Dobson , B.V.M. &. S,D.V.Sc, Cert.E.O., D.A.C.V.R. radiologist Ontario Veterinary College Fila is doing ok, she is getting around better now that shes on moloxicam. which drug were you warning us against in the last letters?, was it this drug or the one that they used to put her out for the x rays( when she went ballistic)? It REALLY is too bad that she didnt turn out to have a sound body structure, i look at her and she is sooooooooooo beautiful, really i mean that, her head is absolutely fantastic, and her chest!!!!. wow. sadly enough, i think her chest is so developed due to the fact that she uses it to compensate for her rear end when she gets up or sits down, but she sure is a nice looking beast. i will send some new pics soon. i also wanted to thank you again for doing the right thing as far as the money goes. i know alot of people would probably just say "oh well", and just not talk to us anymore, but i also know that you have a reputation to uphold, and though we may not be able to vouch for Fila's sound structure, we will certainly vouch for you being a woman of her word- above and beyond even........... lol, provided you do what you said you were going to, but I'm sure you will. anyway, i will stop blabbing, lol, in case you havent guessed its alexis writing now, anyway i just wanted to keep in touch and let you read what the radiograph said. hope to hear back from you alexis and david My comments again, so IF this dog Fila had actul lifethreatening problems as they say, they why is she out running like this? Clearly anyone with common sense would not do this. David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Fila Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:52:55 -0700 Hi Angela, it's Alexis . Today David and I took Fila to the park, and she went running after David and tried to turn a quick corner and down she went. She has run around faster than that before in play and never had anything this bad happen. It's her left leg, which is bad because that was her "good" leg. Anyway, all of this happened half an hour before David went to the kootenays to do business. he will be back on thurs night, and i dont want to make any decisions on anything until he gets back. the vet wants to x ray her again of course, but i dont really know if it is necessary.........if its just a sprain it should show signs of improvement in a few days right? She is not putting any weight on it right now and its hard for her to get up and sit down, other than that she is just sleeping. If it doesn't get better do you think it is safe to assume that she has torn a cruciate ligament? We know that if this is the case surgery really isnt an option because aside from cost, her other side cant support the weight for very long. anyway, i just wanted to write you and let you know whats happening, and if you have any advice for me for the next 3 days? i hope you get back to me soon, thanks Alexis David Robinson" |This is spam|Add to Address Book To: @yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fila Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:34:35 -0700 Hi Angela, it's David here, I just got back into town, did you recieve Alexis's email about Fila? she fell down running and could not get back up, she really hurt her knee I think. I drove my car onto the field and lifted her into the back, and Alexis has kept her quiet and calm for the last 3 days, she won't walk on it at all, she is walking on three legs, but it was her good leg that she hurt so I hope it heals fast because obviously she is putting alot of pressure on her bad leg right now. do you have any advice? we are going to take her to the vet tomorrow for a CARTROPHEN VET injection which is pentosan polysulphate sodium.just curious as to when you will be sending our money, can you give me a date? David I offered to have her shipped here from BC to Ontario to be have the surgery done by a well known specialist, and do all her after care which I am told is alot of work, and I would cover all the expenses, I heard nothing back until after they did the surgery there in BC. GOOD ENOUGH IT DID WORK AND WAS SUCCESSFUL. So now Alexis and Lee/Synn are on the bandwagon together attempting to smear my name all over the dog world, however it is just a matter of time before I get sick of them and take them to court for this matter, they post false information's under false names just to make things look bigger then it really is. Alexis why did you leave that poor animal for so long in pain? Why did you not seek out emergency help when she hurt herself running? 3days would you leave a child that long? I am sure you would not want to be left like that, It is severe pain a torn cruciate ligament. Facts are facts and these people who spend all their days and nights on chat boards etc have no facts and just opinions and made up stories as they think they have found something to make time go by faster and that something is my kennel. I have many people very happy with their services and dogs, I can say out of (just a rough guess) 100 dogs I have produced in my lifetime in the breed maybe 5 people have had problems with their pets and still the only real unhappy one if Fila's owners, even after I gave back 50% of the money paid for her as the contract states. When in fact the specialists I spoke with all said I should not have as this is not life threatening and is an injury, all to common in large breeds today. Now I can also say Fila and 1 other dog in all the litters and years involved have torn Cruciates from my breedings. Also I can say I refunded Fila's owners not because of her injuries but because they bought a show/breeding quality dog and she did not turn out to be that breeding quality due to her hips not passing, now she has received a championship title, so her breed type was infact standard for the show ring, her health was not, and this was why she was refunded her half of the cost of the dog. Fila's owners have no grounds to sit around all day and complain, I can guarantee no other breeder would of done the same. Not for an injury. Angela Canning
William
ny,#8Author of original report
Thu, October 21, 2004
Re: Rustic Kennels: The puppy Conga mentioned in the first message has since died of heart problems. A family living in the Ontario region purchased a Cane Corso puppy from Rustic with the promise of an ear crop, FCI Papers and a Health Report. The puppy was not cropped as promised and Rustic promised a refund which has never been forwarded to the buyers. The puppy also came down with Pravo 10 days after the purchase and the FCI Papers have never been supplied.
William
ny,#9Author of original report
Thu, October 21, 2004
Re: Rustic Kennels: The puppy Conga mentioned in the first message has since died of heart problems. A family living in the Ontario region purchased a Cane Corso puppy from Rustic with the promise of an ear crop, FCI Papers and a Health Report. The puppy was not cropped as promised and Rustic promised a refund which has never been forwarded to the buyers. The puppy also came down with Pravo 10 days after the purchase and the FCI Papers have never been supplied.
William
ny,#10Author of original report
Thu, October 21, 2004
Re: Rustic Kennels: The puppy Conga mentioned in the first message has since died of heart problems. A family living in the Ontario region purchased a Cane Corso puppy from Rustic with the promise of an ear crop, FCI Papers and a Health Report. The puppy was not cropped as promised and Rustic promised a refund which has never been forwarded to the buyers. The puppy also came down with Pravo 10 days after the purchase and the FCI Papers have never been supplied.
William
ny,#11Author of original report
Thu, October 21, 2004
Re: Rustic Kennels: The puppy Conga mentioned in the first message has since died of heart problems. A family living in the Ontario region purchased a Cane Corso puppy from Rustic with the promise of an ear crop, FCI Papers and a Health Report. The puppy was not cropped as promised and Rustic promised a refund which has never been forwarded to the buyers. The puppy also came down with Pravo 10 days after the purchase and the FCI Papers have never been supplied.
William
ny,#12Author of original report
Tue, October 19, 2004
Sire: Ch. Aragorn Del Rustic Dam: Blusteel's Magic To all those parties interested in my Blusteel's Magic and Rustic Kennels "Aragorn" breeding. I am sorry to say after double checking with Angela to confirm this breeding and her giving me the ok to advertise, this breeding will not take place. Everything was set to go, I then asked for a hip certificate for Aragorn because I will not use a dog that has not cleared in my breeding program. I have not received any more email from Angela after asking for that certificate. I went to her site to see if maybe she changed her email address and find an update stating she has decided not to let her dogs stud outside of her kennel. I have yet to hear it from her directly but that is no longer necessary. Again I apologize to those interested but a healthy litter means more to me then a pretty pedigree. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------