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  • Report:  #775291

Complaint Review: Seth Sabal Studio - New York New York

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A. Model. - New York, New York, United States of America
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Seth Sabal Studio
149 Church Street, Studio 2-S New York, 10003 New York, United States of America
Phone:
Web:
www.sethsabal.com
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I've been sick for years thinking about what photographer Seth Sabal did posing as The New York Photo Group. I was his "studio manager".  That basically involved scouring the wanna-be model web sites like One Model Place and Model Mayhem introducing ourselves as one of the "top photo studios in New York".  everyone who knows Seth knows this is a joke.  We would invite the models to castings, pretending that Seth was shooting for a big fashion magazine.  Once they showed up of course,  we would act as if they weren't that great, but if they are lucky and had the money we could create t he portfolios for them that would get them noticed.  we would basically hurt their self esteem and manipulate them into paying us a lot of money for a test.  We would also get them to bring their friends to "make-up parties"  where they had to pay to have their makeup done, promising access to agencies and possible jobs if they played it right.  standard bait and switch.

One thing Seth was really good at was manipulating the young desperate girls.  sometimes he did this by lying about his portfolio, claiming that he worked for W magazine and Numero.  That was his most popular lie. Other times he did it by feeding the girls drugs and alcohol.  He likes cocaine a lot.  It didn't matter how old the girls were either.  One time there was a 17 year old in the studio and he got her to drink most of a bottle of limoncello.  I'm not sure if he got her to have sex with him, but her certainly got her naked.  He had a routine where he would tell the girls that their underwear was getting in the way of the shot and to take them off, but that no one would see anything.  No one did except for Seth.  he would secretly shoot open leg "crotch shots" of the girls, which is why he always refused to show the models any digital images right after the shoot, only days later after editing.  He has a huge collection of these shots, and if you ever shot with him he probably has one of you too.  It's disgusting.

He even had a room with a mattress in the back of the studio where he always tried to take girls after getting them really messed up.  An agent at Women Model Management said that he got one of their young russian models to have sex with him.  Months later when she was at the shows in Paris, he showed up at the hotel where the model agency kept a suite like a complete stalker and the girl was horrified and embarrassed.  The agent had to get Seth kicked out of the hotel.  he followed her to Europe!

It made me angry, but at the time I was living with him and doing drugs, and he didn't let me handle any money, so he basically owned and supported me so I didn't have a  choice.  Of course now that sounds pathetic.  But it was, and I'm a better person now that I'm away from him.

I am posting this information on this site because we used it in the past to post false stories about certain photographers that Seth thought of as competition.  Some of the photographers were from the amateur model websites, and some were NYC based fashion photographers who were working with the legitimate model agencies doing paid tests.  they were good and making money and Seth was jealous.  We got a few models who really wanted to shoot with Seth to make up nasty stories about these photographers and post them to this site.  If they did, he would in turn shoot them for free, and they felt like they were part of something.  The rest of the posts Seth wrote himself.  He learned about this site originally because some model posted a story about him, complaining about her test and the prints.  And he thought he could use it to his advantage to get "rid of his competition".  He actually bragged about this to a booker friend of his at Elite models.  That wasn't a smart move because the guy stopped using him after that.  It's ironic that now this website is being used to expose his compulsive lies.

Another of his scams was to tell agencies that he was shooting a big job with a huge budget so they would send famous models to the studio.  At this fake casting, he would try to shoot them for real and use the pictures in his portfolio, which is totally unethical.  He was trying to give the impression to the public that he was actually of the caliber to shoot these girls.  The agencies caught on pretty soon after the bookers questioned who Seth was to have such an big budget job.  That was the end of that.  

One year he also gave iPods to all the model bookers that he worked with, and a whole lot of top models that he was kissing up to.  He told them that he worked for Apple and shot the ads so he got the iPods for free, but that was such a big joke and lie.  He really just maxed out his AMEX.  

Seth really is the worst that humanity has to offer.  I hear so many horror stories about him in the years since.  Models should not trust him, agencies should stay away, and photo reps should know better that to damage their own reputations by working with him.


4 Updates & Rebuttals

Anonymous

Michigan,
United States
Either you’re covering for him or are blind

#2Consumer Comment

Thu, September 27, 2018

This account of Seth Sabal’s character is 100% accurate and anyone who says he is a professional must be doing him a favor. I do not live in New York but traveled there on his word that he would take some test shots and introduce me to some agents. He took some photos in his studio(which I still have) and then said he wanted to submit photos for a European magazine called Purple.

He said it was the "interactive issue” and that "he may need to get involved in the photos”. He took me into a room in his studio and locked the door. I assume because his wife was right outside the room (she is also a model). He took off pants and underwear and told me "don’t worry, I won’t get hard I just did a ton of coke”. I left after I realized what was happening.

I called a close friend after I left and explained what happened and also texted with him during, expressing my concern about what direction our shoot was going and wanted someone to know where I was if something happened. That friend reminded me of the event today, and I searched seth’s name assuming I would find something like this because I could not have been the only one. Bottom line- he should not have a job where he is around vulnerable women because he does try to take advanatage of his position.


Fashionwriter

New york,
Internet,
United States of America
Lies

#3Consumer Comment

Sat, September 22, 2012

This is written by a sad and sick person. Seth is a kind, loved, talented, admired and all around nice person. What going on here is, a wannabe photographer, or someone that is just insanly envious of Seth's success. No one will buy this story, and frankly if your not going to put your name on it, your just a weak, sick, coward.

Also your story doesnt add up, address is wrong, and if your a so called "ex employee" why do you tag sign as "A model" the story doesnt jive. I can only imagine that your a sick person, that cant stand that Seth, even though was deathly ill until about a year ago, can still pick up a camera, run a successful business and take a photograph, you will never ever be able to do.

About naked pictures of models, thats the funniest part, what photographer doesnt have naked pictures of models? I have never seen a tastless image released from Seth. I know for a fact if you look at the archives of any great photographer of fashion there is nude images of women, Demarcheiler, Newton, Avedon, Penn, all of them. What matters is what is published, what is out there. If a model decides to take off thier clothing for a photographer, does that make the photographer a creep?

It really sounds like your out of touch, and completely naive to the fact that hundreds if not thousands of photographers in New York City have nude images of models, even some which could be viewed as tasteless "Terry Richardson". Just because a model does not wear undergarmets does mean she or he are being photographed in a "xrated" way. You obviously have never been on a set with a Mario Sorrenti, Camilla Akrans or a stylist like Patti Wilson, models are naked all day.I think you might want to look in the mirror or visit a mental hospital and get some help, this look like a classic case of self projection.

All I can say is get a life, and sign your complaint so that you can get the crap sued out of you. Actually that is a waste, I am sure you have no money or success that can be taken from you. More importantly, internet laws are changing and eventually your IP address will be a record that is avail. I hope for sake you live out of the juristications of the laws of the United States.


FNR

New york,
New York,
United States of America
Seth Sebal

#4General Comment

Thu, July 12, 2012

Hi I read the article about Seth.
I think this is orrible ,Because I have  been working in a few project with Seth and I never see or feel anything like that mean what  this person report on Ripoff against Seth
Maybe  this person is just looking at himself in the mirror and just talk about himself.
Anyway also if this is real I think is very bad to do something like that to someone or better publish  on the internet  this bad opinion about someone.
To Me sound just like a stupid revenge .
All I have to  tell to all of you , that Seth His not that kind of person.
I will say is totally the opposite.Nice and generous 
Thank you


Jay

United States of America
Seth Sabal

#5General Comment

Sat, February 18, 2012

This is such a total bunch of slander - Seth is a professional, well-intentioned, helpful, and talented photographer....and has not even been in the ny photography business during the last few years.  Why the writer of this report has decided to write this malicious report at this time is beyond me...the writer appears to be totally unaware of Seth's business, art, and life in general.  why does rip-off reports allow such harmful lies to be published?

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