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  • Report:  #432787

Complaint Review: Steve Quick - Palenstine Texas

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- manchester, New Hampshire,
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Steve Quick
www.pawpatchkennels.com Palenstine, Texas, U.S.A.
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Steve Quick has sold me and my fiance with a sick puppy, he had parvo. We bought our puppy on feb. 21st and he was hospitialized 3 days later. He began to vomit and became extremely ill. He was in isolation for 5 days and then in 24hr care for over 7 days. Our medical bill is well over $5,000 dollars. Thankfull our puppy has made it and is doing well! He is on an exteme diet and a lot of medication. I am so upset over this, how can someone sell sick puppies. I want to find out what to do and how to get this so called kennel shut down. I have read other reports on ridge backs having parvo and my boerboel has parvo which means his whole kennel must have parvo!!

Titan

manchester, New Hampshire

U.S.A.


4 Updates & Rebuttals

Titan

Manchester,
New Hampshire,
U.S.A.
Thank You!

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, June 08, 2009

I just want to say thank you to the previous consumer for sticking up for us!!! No one knows what it is like to have a sick dog sent to you!! We have contacted the breeder and no respone, my papers were also sent a week late and the dates did not match up! I know what parvo is and don't need you to remind me I was there through the whole process. I currently am still paying bills due to this breeder. Like the previous consumer stated you have no idea what we have went through until you have a sick dying dog with parvo!


Debbie

Oak Ridge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Dishonest Breeder

#3Consumer Comment

Mon, April 20, 2009

I am the mother of one of the purchasers of Steve Quick's puppies. Not this consumer but another. Yes, homework was done and No, Parvo was not picked up in OUR environment. A report was filed due to the No cooperation by the breeder. Yes, the first step is to contact the breeder. When the breeder does not cooperate and continues to lie, where to the "Ripped Off" consumers turn?? The puppy was purchased and a contract, vacination papers promised as well as a health guarantee. The puppy arrived WITHOUT any paperwork. During numerous emails "which are documented" my daughter was told that shots were given and a health certificate was being mailed. The shot dates were changed from email dates to actual paperwork finally received AFTER the puppy arrived. The health certificate was also received AFTER this breeder new the puppy was sick. She has a postmarked envelope which was mailed a week after the puppy arrived. Numerous calls, as well as emails were sent to the breeder regarding the health of my daughter's puppy, which at one time he had a 50/50 chance of survival. He did not take any blame for my daughter receiving a sick puppy. I saw him. He arrived and was not eating and not drinking. My daughter chalked it up to a long, windy flight. She has never owned a puppy before. Within days the puppy was hospitialized costing thousands of dollars. Parvo takes time to show signs and there is no way this was contracted in OUR environment. As soon as he arrived he became sick, therefore, the Parvo was contracted before we got him. Others also became sick from the same breeder. Dont you find this strange? So maybe there are some folks out there that have nothing else to do besides write complaints, but there are some folks out there that are looking for help with dishonest breeders. They know they can get away with this and there are no lemon laws in their state. I stand by the statement of this consumer as well as my daughers. Dont pass judgement unless you have walked in our shoes.


Noneya

Edgewood,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Parvo

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, March 30, 2009

Know your facts. And always ask for vaccination records on a puppy BEFORE you buy it. Parvo is found in the environment. It can be carried by vaccinated dogs, and while the vaccinated dog may not get sick, any unvaccinated animal will pick up the virus. It does NOT mean that an entire kennel or the breeders kennel has the virus. If an entire kennel had the virus, then the entire kennel would be DEAD were the animals left untreated. Not conduscive to breeding now is it? You are spreading panic where no panic is due. Please stop internet crusading, especially when you're in the wrong. Parvo's incubation time from INITIAL exposure to seeing the clinical signs varies from 3 to 10 days. Which means that the puppy didn't necessarily pick it up from the kennel, but COULD have picked it up from your own environment. Have you CONTACTED the breeder? I see no mention of this in your posting. Where are your shot records from the breeder? I also see no mention of any pre-purchase vaccinations mentioned in your posting. Did you NOT do your homework and research what you needed to do when buying a puppy? Did you make sure your breeder offered a health gaurantee? Are you now kicking yourself in the rump and trying to displace blame? My opinion is no you didn't do your homework, you didn't make sure you had a contract and you're not kicking yourself for NOT doing your homework. Why are you not dealing with your breeder? Is it because you are not telling us the WHOLE story or is it because now you're trying to get something for nothing? I am highly skeptical of these types of postings because so many of these come from people who would just love to see breeders ruined. Or many are by competitors who just want to try and market thier own dogs while slandering other breeders. The HONEST thing to do would be to: 1) Contact the breeder. 2) Try to reconcile your differences with the breeder. A good breeder would most likely work with you to meet a suitible end. 3) Then and ONLY then should you take other measures. This sounds to me of yet another case of a puppy who got sick and trying to blame it on the breeder. And by all indications of your posting you have NOT even contacted this breeder. Were I the breeder I would WANT to know. Not only because of a dissatisfied buyer, but also because if the risk IS there for Parvo, I would want to eliminate any potential hazard to my kennel. I certainly wouldn't compensate you for your entire vet bill, but I WOULD give you another puppy or pay some portion of the bill if you wanted to keep your puppy. What is Parvo? Parvo is a common and potentially serious viral disease in dogs. The virus is officially known Parvovirus. The disease caused by this virus is commonly referred to as "Parvo". The virus first appeared clinically in 1978, and there was a widespread epidemic in dogs of all ages. Since no dogs had been exposed or vaccinated (the vaccine didn't exist at the time), dogs of all ages died from the infection. The virus can "adapt" over time, and other strains of the virus have appeared since then, but properly administered vaccinations are the best protection. Canine Parvovirus is thought to be a mutation from the feline Parvovirus, also known as Feline Distemper virus. What are the signs seen with Parvovirus infection? There are three main manifestations of Parvovirus infection: Asymptomatic - No signs seen. Common in dogs over 1 year old and vaccinated dogs. Cardiac - This form of the disease is much less common than the intestinal form due to widespread vaccination. Severe inflammation and necrosis (cell death), of the heart muscle causes breathing difficulty and death in very young (<8 weeks) puppies. Older dogs that survive this form have scarring in the heart muscle. Intestinal - This virus causes extreme damage to the intestinal tract, causing sloughing of the cells that line the tract. This can leave the patient open to secondary bacterial infection. Most of the affected dogs (85%) are less than one year old and between 6-20 weeks old -- before the full set of vaccinations can be given. The death rate from infection is reported to be 16-35% in this age group.* The intestinal signs include: Lethargy Vomiting Loss of appetite Diarrhea - usually bloody, and very foul-smelling (a characteristic odor, particular to Parvovirus infection) Fever The onset of clinical signs is usually sudden, often 12 hours or less. The incubation from exposure to seeing the clinical signs varies from 3 to 10 days. How is Parvovirus infection diagnosed? This disease is diagnosed by physical examination, signalment (age, vaccination status, breed, etc.), and a fecal Parvo (ELISA) test. Additional diagnostics include blood work and radiographs. Dogs infected with Parvo typically have a low white count. Radiographs help rule out other potential causes for vomiting and diarrhea. Go to the next page to learn about treatment. How is Parvovirus infection treated? There is no treatment specifically for the Parvovirus at this time. Treatment is supportive care, which includes any or all of the following: Oral electrolyte fluids - if the case is mild and the animal isn't vomiting Subcutaneous (SQ) or intravenous (IV) fluids to maintain hydration in the face of the extreme fluid losses from vomiting and diarrhea that are so typical with this disease Anti-vomiting/nausea medications - to prevent further damage from vomiting and to keep the patient comfortable as possible. Antibiotics - because the virus has potential to slough the intestinal tract, antibiotics help protect against secondary infection. Blood or Plasma transfusions - to replace protein loss, provide antibodies, help with anemia. Many puppies infected with Parvovirus need to be hospitalized for supportive care. Hospitalization is typically about 5 days, sometimes longer. Surviving the first three days is usually a good sign for long term survival. How long does Parvovirus last in the environment? The Parvovirus family of viruses are particularly long-lived in the environment, lasting anywhere from 1 to 7 months -- commonly surviving 5-7 months in an outside environment. Due to the large amounts of virus particles shed in the feces of an infected dog (shedding lasts two weeks or more after exposure) and the longevity of the virus, complete eradication of the virus is often impossible. How can I disinfect an area contaminated by a dog infected with Parvovirus? There are many Parvovirus disinfectants on the market, but regular old bleach is still 100% effective against Parvovirus. The dilution for bleach is one part bleach to 30 parts water. Caution is advised for dyed or colored fabrics or objects. This should go without saying, but to be complete, DO NOT use a bleach preparation on the animal at any time!!! The commercial Parvovirus disinfectants have the advantage of better smelling preparations. Check the label for color fast warnings. See your vet or pet store for the various disinfectants available. Be sure to keep feces (and any vomitus) picked up in the yard and kennel area as well. How can I protect my dog from becoming infected? Vaccination is the key to prevent this disease and protect your dog. Breeding bitches should be vaccinated prior to becoming pregnant to ensure that the pups get the best start at immunity. Vaccinations should start at 6 weeks of age, and be boostered at 9, 12, and 16 weeks of age. Some veterinarians also booster at 20 weeks, depending on the breed and Parvovirus risk in your area. Speak with your veterinarian about what vaccination protocol is the best for your pet and your lifestyle. I heard that some breeds of dogs are more susceptible, is this true? Yes, it appears that some breeds, most notably the Rottweiler, Doberman Pinscher, German Shepherds, Pit Bulls, and Labrador Retrievers are at an increased risk for this disease. Conversely, Toy Poodles and Cockers appear to be at a reduced risk for contracting this disease.** It is important to remember, however, that any breed can get Parvovirus. Be sure to keep your dog's vaccinations up to date. ** Breed information from The Merck Veterinary Manual, 8th ed.


Titan

manchester,
New Hampshire,
U.S.A.
Let's shut him down!!!

#5Author of original report

Wed, March 25, 2009

Hello Tiffany, I would like to contact you for further information about steve quick. How would I go about that?

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