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Complaint Review: STIFORP - Anaheim Hills California
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South Boston, Massachusetts, United States of America
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5753 G Santa Ana Canyon Road Suite 512 Anaheim Hills, 92807 California, United States of America
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STIFORP Nauder Khazan Deceptive advertising regarding downline Anaheim Hills, California
Nauder Khazan, founder of STIFORP is dishonest about his business opportunity.
Here is what happened to me:
1) I received an email spam about the opportunity, which stated:
HUGE COMPENSATION PROGRAM With EVERY Network Marketer in the industry soon being a member of STIFORP, our compensation plan allows you to earn up to $2,047.50 per month without ever enrolling a single person!
2) I pre-enrolled for free, and on my free website they post this about my downline:
Since you preenrolled, 16873 PAID MEMBERS and 209060 Pre-enrollees have already been placed under YOU in the Powerline! As part of our compensation program, just by locking in your position, YOU WILL GET PAID on the first 3 people under you in the POWERLINE and potentially on THOUSANDS more under you in the Matrix!.
NOTE: They pay you a total of $4 one time only for the first 3 people under you in the matrix. It is not a monthly payment.
2) After 2 months, I closed my checking account and emailed the company to ask if I would make more than the $10 per month cost to stay in the program since I had over 16,000 who joined and paid after me. They replied:
We cannot predict any spillover. The way the powerline works, you are guaranteed to get paid on the first 3 people under you in the powerline, and you will be placed in the matrix before ALL the people below you in the powerline. This does NOT necessarily mean that all of those people will go under you in the matrix. The matrix fills top to bottom left to right following the enroller. The sooner you are placed in the matrix, the better chance you have that people will go under you because the ONLY place for people to go when they are placed in the matrix is UNDER the ones who are already in there.
I emailed them for a refund. I told them I felt they were being deceptive in their advertising.
I didnt get an answer. I closed my membership, and had to check off a box stating this:
3) I understand that terminating my position means that I am ineligible to receive any future commissions and I am permanently forfeiting my entire downline and all of my 17542 members.
First they state I can potentially get paid on thousands of people under me in the matrix.
Then they state that it does not necessarily mean all of the paid people will go under me in the matrix. Lastly, they state if I terminate my membership, I am permanently forfeiting my entire downline of 17,542 Members.
If STIFROP has a matrix like they claim, why cant they tell me my position in the matrix, or show me a graph or something? Its possible there may not be a matrix. I agree they are paying members for signing up people, but they are not paying on the downlines that sign up after you, except for the first 3 people, one month only, which totals a 1 time payment of four dollars.
When I emailed the company I addressed it to Nauder Khazan, the creator and president of STIFORP and told him I feel his website is deceptive in leading people to believe they will make 2.5% on every person who joins after me up to $2,000 or so. That amounts to 25 cents for every person who joins after me up to 8,000 people. I had 17,542 paid members in my supposed downline when I closed my membership. If they paid 1% on every person (1% of the $9.95 monthly cost to stay in the program, which is 10 cents per paid member below me, I would make $175 per month.
If they paid a 10th of 1%, I would have made $17.50 per month, which would have covered the $9.95 cost to stay in the program, and gave me a $7.50 monthly profit. But they obviously are too greedy to do even any of that. I am filing complaints with other places and even his church. He professes to be a Christian on his marketing information. By the way, he also is behind these 3 other business opportunites which also over promise and under deliver:
www.myworldplus.com
www.alivemax.com
www.skinnybodycare.com
Here is what happened to me:
1) I received an email spam about the opportunity, which stated:
HUGE COMPENSATION PROGRAM With EVERY Network Marketer in the industry soon being a member of STIFORP, our compensation plan allows you to earn up to $2,047.50 per month without ever enrolling a single person!
2) I pre-enrolled for free, and on my free website they post this about my downline:
Since you preenrolled, 16873 PAID MEMBERS and 209060 Pre-enrollees have already been placed under YOU in the Powerline! As part of our compensation program, just by locking in your position, YOU WILL GET PAID on the first 3 people under you in the POWERLINE and potentially on THOUSANDS more under you in the Matrix!.
NOTE: They pay you a total of $4 one time only for the first 3 people under you in the matrix. It is not a monthly payment.
2) After 2 months, I closed my checking account and emailed the company to ask if I would make more than the $10 per month cost to stay in the program since I had over 16,000 who joined and paid after me. They replied:
We cannot predict any spillover. The way the powerline works, you are guaranteed to get paid on the first 3 people under you in the powerline, and you will be placed in the matrix before ALL the people below you in the powerline. This does NOT necessarily mean that all of those people will go under you in the matrix. The matrix fills top to bottom left to right following the enroller. The sooner you are placed in the matrix, the better chance you have that people will go under you because the ONLY place for people to go when they are placed in the matrix is UNDER the ones who are already in there.
I emailed them for a refund. I told them I felt they were being deceptive in their advertising.
I didnt get an answer. I closed my membership, and had to check off a box stating this:
3) I understand that terminating my position means that I am ineligible to receive any future commissions and I am permanently forfeiting my entire downline and all of my 17542 members.
First they state I can potentially get paid on thousands of people under me in the matrix.
Then they state that it does not necessarily mean all of the paid people will go under me in the matrix. Lastly, they state if I terminate my membership, I am permanently forfeiting my entire downline of 17,542 Members.
If STIFROP has a matrix like they claim, why cant they tell me my position in the matrix, or show me a graph or something? Its possible there may not be a matrix. I agree they are paying members for signing up people, but they are not paying on the downlines that sign up after you, except for the first 3 people, one month only, which totals a 1 time payment of four dollars.
When I emailed the company I addressed it to Nauder Khazan, the creator and president of STIFORP and told him I feel his website is deceptive in leading people to believe they will make 2.5% on every person who joins after me up to $2,000 or so. That amounts to 25 cents for every person who joins after me up to 8,000 people. I had 17,542 paid members in my supposed downline when I closed my membership. If they paid 1% on every person (1% of the $9.95 monthly cost to stay in the program, which is 10 cents per paid member below me, I would make $175 per month.
If they paid a 10th of 1%, I would have made $17.50 per month, which would have covered the $9.95 cost to stay in the program, and gave me a $7.50 monthly profit. But they obviously are too greedy to do even any of that. I am filing complaints with other places and even his church. He professes to be a Christian on his marketing information. By the way, he also is behind these 3 other business opportunites which also over promise and under deliver:
www.myworldplus.com
www.alivemax.com
www.skinnybodycare.com
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Michael Lee 4 STAR Team Leader
Wichita,Kansas,
USA
Setting The Record Straight On STIFORP PROFITS!
#2General Comment
Mon, April 03, 2017
Hello everybody on here. My name is Michael Lee. I have been a STIFORP PROFITS Member for 5 and 1/2 years!! I have read many of your posts and I simply cannot believe all of the information that has been shared on here is TOTALLY inaccurate, untrue and OUTRIGHT False!! In the last 5 and 1/2 years I have made more money with STIFORP then I EVER imagined possible! Look me up on the STIFORP "Top Leaders Overall" and you will find me in position 29 out of the top 100 STIFORP members in the WORLD! That means that since I upgraded to "Paid" Member on August 15, 2011, 168615 PAID MEMBERS have joined since I did and I am the 29th ranked STIFORP member in the entire world! No brag, just fact! Why am I where I am with STIFORP you may ask? Because I work, work, work work STIFORP PROFITS 24/7. This a Home Based Business, not a "FREE Lunch". Nothing in life is FREE you people. In order to have a business, you have to "Build Your Business"!! STIFORP PROFITS Is NOT a "get rich quick scheme" PERIOD! When you become a STIFORP member you acquire over $5000.00 worth of Business Building Tools designed to take any home based business Iincluding STIFORP PROFITS to THE NEXT LEVEL all for $9.95 per month. That is LESS than .33 cents per day to CHANGE your Finacial future. When you Upgrade to Paid Member You are Guaranteed by STIFORP to receive a commission on the 1st 3 people underneath you in the Powerline and POTENTIALLY thousands more people underneath YOU in the STIFORP Matrix through "Spillover" and "Spill Under".These are FACTS!!! One more thing. In the last 5 1/2 years of being a STIFORP member I have been paid EVERY Wednesday for my previous weeks personal enrollments. STIFORP pays like clockwork!! What a joy!... Okay everybody...I have said my piece to set the record straight about STIFORP PROFITS. STIFORP has changed my life! It can for you too. In sales and marketing there are 2 old sayings. "The PROOF Is In The Puddin" and "Quitters NEVER Win" and "Winners" NEVER Quit"! If you are a Winner" like ME or would like to become one go To: http://michael54.stiforpmovie.com/?SOURCE=SCR Take the FREE Tour and find out for yourself. After all "seeing is beleiving". To Your Success EVERYBODY And God Bless! Sincerely, Michael Lee 4 STAR Team Leader
ElenaPalleschi
Los Angeles,United States of America
Stiforp
#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, March 31, 2012
My visa credited me for all payments I made(6 months)
Contact me for any help
[email protected]
Let me know Where we met :)
Good luck
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