Complaint Review: TAGCOR Aka The Advertising Group Aka CYDCOR - Santa Monica California

There is one simple reason for that. The company is selling junk that nobody wants. Freakin' morons. Trash like salt and pepper shakers. Steak knives. Phony vacations. Roses, for christ sake. All garbage than nobody really needs. So, the losers walk around all day and make 3 sales. Three sales in 8 hours! For the love of god, I don't know what in the hell keeps people coming back! Here's the number, you fools. If you're a rep and you're out walking around all day, you need to see $100 a day AFTER expenses. Not $13, not $21, not $33. A freakin' solid $100 bill EVERY day. If you're an owner you need to see another $100 for every crew member you have out hustling. Otherwise, you just ain't makin' it pal. Anybody who doesn't make $100 a day is fakin' it, not makin' it! Don't be ringing any bell. If I were there, I'd pull the d**n bell off the wall and smack you in the head with it. For christ's sake, dump those freakin' losers at the top of the max pyramid and go out and get good items that people actually want to buy. Barbecue sets! Steak knives! Freakin' morons! If I gave you people bubble gum, you wouldn't be able to chew and walk straight at the same time. That would be the death of the max con. Chewing gum. None of the reps could move once they had gum in their mouths.

The condition of a building, the interview and feeling it is too hard to advance seem to be the issues here. I would not work for a company that has a shady location. The location is up to whomever owns the company. If the building is cheap/not furnished/looks make-shift you can deduct that the owner wants to make as much money as possable for him/herself. Probably with no reguard for the enviroment his/her people have to work in. If your going to work for a marketing company, pick one with a nice office, this means the owner has it together. As in any job, if you do not follow procedures, or participate in meetings the managment group calls, you surly will not be going places. Going door 2 door is not for everyone, some people think its hard, some people find it easy. The people who find it easy get promoted. As for Jamie Hepp, I don't feel sorry for him... Leaders of the pack tend to end up faily comfortable. From what I know about this, the people who make it, make it quickly... You should be able to identify within 2 months weather or not you have what it takes to do well. You should be running an office in less than a year from your start date. Four years is a long time to stay at the bottom anywhere. Marketing is probably something you should never, ever do, ever again... Thanks... P.S. Donald Trump made it off amway, door 2 door. Don't feel sorry for him do you?

Ds-max, cydcor, granton marketing. It is a cult. Not in the sense that they are getting members to worship a weird god or undertake in interesting rituals. The god is fincial independance. And the means to get is by going door to door, adopting their attitude and building a sales crew out of your pocket. I regret the day I joined this organization. I was in for over 4 years. I left with some clothes, $80 and sales experience. I was also 16k in debt with a repossed car and not a place a place to stay. To top it off I hurt people. How? I influenced many people to stay that should not have. Plus they had me sell illegitamate promotions. In defense of them - most of the campaigns they have are good. But in a division I was in - we had at least four fraudulent travel promotions that never worked. Three were for buy one get 1 free nights at casino's in las vegas and one was for getting 3 nights of unused times share space in condominiums for $60. All for campaigns added to over a 7 months of sales where I was nothing more than a conman. (I had been told that everything was legitamate!) It follows a classic mlm model. You have an office with one or more campaigns. The business is acquired by going door to door. A city is divided up and you do your section for the whole day. To advance YOU train a sales crew and split some of your daily earnings to help pay them. They don't take out taxes. You pay for all food and transport. You have to have a sales crew big enough to support an office in order to be promoted - usually at least 10 people. And five of them have to be 1st generation leaders(someone in the business for at least a few weeks that makes ok money and is sold on the opportunity and promoted to this status)If you build a sales crew big enough you can run your own office and money will be ok. Financial independance is obtained by influencing reps in your office to build offices of their own. You will then get an override off of each deal promoted out of your office. Get enough deal out and you will be financially independant. I could go on and on. They dictate how you should think and feel. - always motivated to sell and train and work however long and influence new people to stay. To always act positive and upbeat - to only say positive things about your day, your goals, ds-max and the campaign. (so bringing up the fact that you might not have made money in 2 days, or that the police kicked you out of a building or that half your crew quit and you half to spend time and money building a new crew - is not fit to bring up.) They have hi-jacked self help sections of bookstores on how attitude should be. They promote a classic we-they mentality. It is either 1)financial independance through ds-max, working for your self and being an entreprenurial vice president or 2) being an average Joe schmoe at mcdonalds that will be laid off, that works for other people that will be a victim of others his whole life. (I thought entrepreneurs thought up of thier own ideas - not followed someone elses. I guess Lee Iaccoca and Andrew Carnegie must have started off door to door too?!) They discourage any dissent to what they want to here. They discourage the rep from any family members or activitys that might take them away from time in the business. So leave your dissenting wife and give upon your night school or going to the gym. And it is a lot of time you spend in the business. If you are a leader you should arrive early - before your crew. Lets say you are going business to busines. Get there at 645am. The meeting will be at 800am. So up to then is "atmosphere" where you should only teach and learn about the busines. Leaders go around and go over pitching with new people. "negative" people get quarantined from impressionable new people. You get your order of goods to sell. The meeting starts. If you don't participate in the chants the owner will not be happy with you. In the meeting the owner picks a topic to speak about and gives recognition to sales people that did well the prior day. Out in the field now. Drive the territory and sell solicit all the business. When the business close in the evening, drive back to the office, settle up with what you have sold - and hang around for another hour or so of "atmosphere". If you are a leader you had better act like you had made money that day and that you had fun. Be sure to quarantine any one that is acting negative and be sure to try and teach some one something positive about the business. If you are a leader you should be trying to get a crew meeting in with you crew. But not at the expense of missing any atmosphere! Hope this sheds some light.

Are you saying that every company that interviews 2 people at a time is a scam? What exactly did they do that was illegal? It sound sound like you just didn't like them. Or you still haven't found a job yet.. Why don't you have a job anyway? You must be waiting for the best offer for you!!!! Good luck jobless!!!!