Complaint Review: Tech Pros Group - Irvine California

what the previous person is say is that the company is a fraud. and he is right. the same company sent me an email offering me a job based on me sending my resume. in the same manner as they did him. then requested that i "first" go to another website and do a credit check before we can interview you.
This is of course after them saying that I have the job.. and i checked it did not say the job offer was conditional.. Now to my knowledge this is not a normal business practice. The website they list as the company website is bogus.
 You can go there and it is a website but so obviously just a facade. they claim to design websites but their own site is a throw together with very little to offer.. including a lack of proper address and other contact information. all you are given is an email address on the "contact page" this company contacts different people using different methods and the end result is the same.. they get your money under fraudulent pretenses.

Jeff...

they dont check your credit for just your score necessarily... if that were the case I might not have made it in..... they just wanna see that A) you'll be able to go out pay for the certifications you need to graduate and B) that you won't hide from them when you graduate and start earning a paycheck...

lastly, I worked for Comcast for the first 3 months after I graduated as a LMC analyst (which was a contract job through APEX), then I was a network admin for a smaller company named the stonehill group. I was there for 7 months, paid off tech pros, then got an offer to work for McKesson. I'm part of the EIG group and my title is implementation engineer/technical advisor. I'm making close to 70k, I get a laptop, cell provided by the company, plus free flights, hotels, cars, per diem..etc.. all that...

so while they may word things in way that sounds like they are trying to trick you, they are really just trying to give you what you need to suceed and push you to actually do it.

I hear they've changed the program recently to mostly cisco side stuff which is disappointing cause they program I went too worked awesome. I worked for saturn selling cars before I did the program. The only thing I wish they had added was SQL and VM certs...

Ok Tim you sound like an infomercial for tech pros.
They may be legit and not a rip off, but why do they wait til after stage 1 to do a consumer background and credit check.So that they can get the application fee. Why not just check someones credit from the start. Also just cause someone has bad credit does not mean they wont be a good certified tech.  Another thing is you talk about how you talk to recruiters and companies, about jobs at 55K or higher, yet you do not give any names or say you are employed for this company making this , doing this. If it was so good, you would tell everyone where you work, what job you do and even how much your salary range is, not a bunch of , well I talked to recruiters....so what thousands of people talk to recruiters everyday. Also so what if they have homes, real nice homes with routers etc. So what that is the companies problem, no one said they had to get homes for people who are only out their for a short while. Why not do it like most companies do, put the person in a hotel room or have a building. Also too it says after internship you start at 12,000 for 3 months, ok that is only like $6 hour, i think minimum wage is higher. Yes i know you will talk all about how it goes to 24,000, then 42,000 in 6 months........whatever, why is it so low for 3 months if you are trained and certified.

So what are you trying to say? its expensive..... f**k yeah its expensive... dont forget that you pay them 20% of your future salary for a year.... but what exactly are you trying to do? You already have all the certifications? you have experience?? what are you doing applying for this anyway- just go get a job. are you new to IT, do you not have the cert's.. are you looking for a way to increase your salary?? ok..then you probably need to look for a company to train you and get you started. You could call some certification sales company and pay even more than what tech pros charges to just study and do it all yourself (and be merely paper certified)... you could go back to college cause you know thats always cheap... or you just go right now and get a job with a company that trains you on the spot from the bottom up. but if you could do that, you wouldn't be here would you??? This program is hard. make no mistake about it, but its not rocket science either. They are in it to make money and they way they do that is by getting you alot more money (and hence a share of it). They buy the VMWare, cisco routers and switches neccessary to being training hundreds of people intially only to find out that like 70-80% of the people out there can't pass the exams and certifications or just dont want to work that hard. ( and believe me its hard as hell if you're someone who has no experience or training and needs someone to teach you ). After that they have to consider the camp in southern california. They literally buy homes...homes...not a home...but homes... with a values at a $million plus so that candidates can fly out there and live on site and train for however long it is in stage 3. They furnish these homes again with routers, switches, computers, LCD screens...etc...everything you need. What happens next is they find out in stage 2, some of the people they fully qualified either can't be trusted due to credit checks or they are lying about getting certified. In the end, they have spent all this money (remember they are trying to make it, not lose it!) only to wind up with 5 people making it to california out of hundreds who started ( as was the example in my group ). remember that number of $24,000 or whatever is only what they are saying its worth. the reality of what you pay is a little more complicated, but it wont be anything like that. its half your first month's salary and then 20% for 12 months. Are the goods really worth that much money?...psh...probably not... is 20% alot?...probably yes.... but what are you going to do?? I was making 8.60 an hour working 25 hours a week working my way through college. I left school and worked for mere commisions in a car dealership during this country's worst depression. I went to tech pros group and worked my a*s off for them and was one of 5 who graduated in december 08. The people there are increadible. it really was, no joke, a life changing experience. Even their whole way of thinking is amazing and I honestly wish I could go back there for another 9 days. Now, I'm talking to recruiters and REAL companies....large companies, international companies....about salaries and hourly wage jobs that equate to anywhere from 55-80k. Am I gonna end up owing tech pros a lot of a money...probably-yes....but its money I would maybe have never come close to seeing in my life. btw, shop around and look at what other IT cert programs are asking for... I on my own talked to a man about a program to get A+, Net+, Security + and CISSP for around $6k that he wanted all up front. Techpros got me a MCP, MCSA, MCSA (messaging and security), MCSE, MCSE (messaging and security), CCNA, CCNP and 3 other propeitory exams that back up the "paper certifications". AND- because I did the techpros program I....lets just say... learned how to get other cert's I want (A+, Net+, Sec+) without paying for anything other than the exam. Tech Pros was increadible. I encourage you to go to their website.... look up "tech pros group camp" on youtube... and if you really need more clarification you can email me personally [email protected]. My name is Tim

So what are you trying to say? its expensive..... f**k yeah its expensive... dont forget that you pay them 20% of your future salary for a year.... but what exactly are you trying to do? You already have all the certifications? you have experience?? what are you doing applying for this anyway- just go get a job. are you new to IT, do you not have the cert's.. are you looking for a way to increase your salary?? ok..then you probably need to look for a company to train you and get you started. You could call some certification sales company and pay even more than what tech pros charges to just study and do it all yourself (and be merely paper certified)... you could go back to college cause you know thats always cheap... or you just go right now and get a job with a company that trains you on the spot from the bottom up. but if you could do that, you wouldn't be here would you??? This program is hard. make no mistake about it, but its not rocket science either. They are in it to make money and they way they do that is by getting you alot more money (and hence a share of it). They buy the VMWare, cisco routers and switches neccessary to being training hundreds of people intially only to find out that like 70-80% of the people out there can't pass the exams and certifications or just dont want to work that hard. ( and believe me its hard as hell if you're someone who has no experience or training and needs someone to teach you ). After that they have to consider the camp in southern california. They literally buy homes...homes...not a home...but homes... with a values at a $million plus so that candidates can fly out there and live on site and train for however long it is in stage 3. They furnish these homes again with routers, switches, computers, LCD screens...etc...everything you need. What happens next is they find out in stage 2, some of the people they fully qualified either can't be trusted due to credit checks or they are lying about getting certified. In the end, they have spent all this money (remember they are trying to make it, not lose it!) only to wind up with 5 people making it to california out of hundreds who started ( as was the example in my group ). remember that number of $24,000 or whatever is only what they are saying its worth. the reality of what you pay is a little more complicated, but it wont be anything like that. its half your first month's salary and then 20% for 12 months. Are the goods really worth that much money?...psh...probably not... is 20% alot?...probably yes.... but what are you going to do?? I was making 8.60 an hour working 25 hours a week working my way through college. I left school and worked for mere commisions in a car dealership during this country's worst depression. I went to tech pros group and worked my a*s off for them and was one of 5 who graduated in december 08. The people there are increadible. it really was, no joke, a life changing experience. Even their whole way of thinking is amazing and I honestly wish I could go back there for another 9 days. Now, I'm talking to recruiters and REAL companies....large companies, international companies....about salaries and hourly wage jobs that equate to anywhere from 55-80k. Am I gonna end up owing tech pros a lot of a money...probably-yes....but its money I would maybe have never come close to seeing in my life. btw, shop around and look at what other IT cert programs are asking for... I on my own talked to a man about a program to get A+, Net+, Security + and CISSP for around $6k that he wanted all up front. Techpros got me a MCP, MCSA, MCSA (messaging and security), MCSE, MCSE (messaging and security), CCNA, CCNP and 3 other propeitory exams that back up the "paper certifications". AND- because I did the techpros program I....lets just say... learned how to get other cert's I want (A+, Net+, Sec+) without paying for anything other than the exam. Tech Pros was increadible. I encourage you to go to their website.... look up "tech pros group camp" on youtube... and if you really need more clarification you can email me personally [email protected]. My name is Tim

I do not see where there was a loss of goods or service.