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  • Report:  #859335

Complaint Review: tradethink - Santa Barbera California

Reported By:
cleanedout - daly city, California, United States of America
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tradethink
218 E. Yanonali Unit B Santa Barbera, 93101 California, United States of America
Phone:
8055044514
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
I stated in a previous post about how the Morse brothers (Jason & Chris) of TrateThink are finally being exposed for the hucksters they really are. As an  analogy to explain what they do with the defective Trathink system, I want to explain who really makes the money in the past and present world. The traders or MRCI and TradeThink. In the past it was the big 4 type. In The present its TradeThink and Jason and Chris Morse. And not the Trader. Its just like the money made during the California gold rush. Sam Brannan wasnt stupid. He wasnt going to risk his life and lose everything to pan for gold. Sam Brannan sold the picks,pans.levis, and all the provisions. He made more money selling levis than 99% of the miners who mined gold.. A $10.00 egg or a $100 dollar shovel is good money even today. The big four, Stanford,Crocker,Huntington,Hopkins. All supplied the shovels for miners to dig with. Sometimes used to dig their own graves after working themselves to death. We must know the riches and legacys of the big four. Stanford University and a California governer position for Leyland. Huntington, where he owned the Pacific Electric Railway as well as substantial real estate interests. Mark Hopkins, stores,railroads and the Mark Hopkins Hotel.  These robber barons made fortunes selling the tools, opening bank accounts,housing,food,tickets back east etc,etc. The poor miners could hardly afford. If Hopkins had ever picked up a shovel the weight would have broken his back. What TradeThink and MRCI systems do is almost a direct analogy with the businesses of the big four. Most average Commodity traders make little if any money. If theyre ever was a majority who made money over time selling commodities, it was long before the manipulators entered the market.  And the manipulators didnt use the Chris or Jason Morse commodity trading products. Jason and Chris Morse do exactly the same thing as the big four. Jason and Chris Morse sell very expensive tools for traders to dig a hole. That hole the traders may very well find themselves in. They sell these worthless commodity trading systems with promises of past glory holes found. But theirs always the cover your a*s, always ignored boiler plate language.  Just call it CYA  all it says is the system they just sold you may not work. All the traders drunk on lies, stories, dreams and fables buy the TradeThink junk. The poor unknowing traders jump on the Morse products faster than Jason Emptys a bottle of bachardi 151. Jason And Chris Morse are exactly the same type as the big 4 type people. They sell crap trading systems which help the trader bury his or herself. And then go about there lives as if ripoff was the mission. Jason and Chris than high 5 and yell mission accomplished. They sell you broken down trading tools that dont work. And the worst part of all. They give you not a shred of warranty. Not an hour. A trading system that does not provide a warranty Is a STOP sign or red flag. They do give you a free trial, but god forbid they ever fraudulantly get there hands on your money. That money is down the toilet if you or your broker get sick or die on the first day you pay TradeThink. For Chris and Jason it just another day in the sucessful life of TradeThink or MRCI. If you want to make money today in this world become a trade ThinkThink saleman and create a wonderful karma for yourself.(not!)  Ive never found or read anywhere except the TradeThink written testimonials that says anything good about TradeThink past performance. Odd that a third party financial system review does not mention TradeThink unless Jason pays for it. Most honest system review websites dont ever mention TradeThink even exist. If enough people got together and reported the rotten lies Jason tells about the performance of the TradeThink system i think we can put a bad business out. The essence of the internet is to expose the true story behind what we thought was OK back in the day. Now we can finally find the truth, that these trading systems are nothing more than a backwards money making scheme run by fat empty headed people who have no regard for money its taken a lifetime to accumulate. They always target the desperate among us. These days most of us are desperate to make up for stock market losses or we just want to know we can retire without living in the street.

TradeThink is a way to end uo on the street or make more loses to an already destroyed savings
or retirement [email protected] | A Throwback To The Big Robber Barons


5 Updates & Rebuttals

cleanedout

daly city,
California,
United States of America
tradethink Cuts Capital To Ribbons

#2Author of original report

Tue, April 10, 2012

Chris Morse in his rebuttals says the best time to start trading is during periods of large draw downs. Not true if no trend has developed. If the commodity markets move in a sideways consolidation the tradethink system cuts the capital to ribbons. 15 months of consolidation was enough for me. He makes tradethink performance look the way he wants it to look. He's already done it with false claims about a big silver profit last year. Chris is desperate to repair his reputation. Chris, you do it by selling a good product, admitting when you make mistakes and not being shady and deceptive. 


cleanedout

daly city,
California,
United States of America
TradeThink Worthless Garbage

#3Author of original report

Tue, April 10, 2012

He talks but he doesn't say anything. He says he's proud to show you the bull he's got at his website. He says the best time to start trading is during draw downs. I traded during draw downs according to the system rules and lost even more money. He will never address the crooked broker he sent me to. That broker blew my account to hell a few weeks after i stupidly paid for a second year of signals. How can i use the tradethink signals if the broker Chris Morse sent me to blew my account up and i have no more money left? You guys talk some sugar coated crap. And that's all it is.


Trader2478

Incline Village,
Nevada,
United States of America
RE: Tradethink for Trade Think system

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, April 10, 2012

As stated markets go up and down anyone that thinks otherwise is naive and uneducated. We show drawdowns on all reports and anyone can and should expect these periods.

There is no such entity as Morse research, any further mention will be construed as liable. I did some research and there is a Moore Research, not Morse research.

We provide a system signal package. What anyone does with the signals is their own responsibility. 

I am happy yo provide anyone that wants access to all of my signals and you be the judge. If you see winners then great. If you see losers, well the markets go up and down. 

Unfortunately most traders trade in a counter productive manner and will watch the markets with intrigue while they go up during trends and then become scared in times of draw-down. Trade disciple is one of the most important aspects of trading and no system can do this for anyone.

Good Trading 


cleanedout

daly city,
California,
United States of America
Boiler Plate Bull

#5Author of original report

Tue, April 10, 2012

The Developer at tradethink failed to mention anything about my results. I did not cry wolf, override the system and get out at the bottom. I traded for 15 months according to the systems signals and lost 30%. He's full of crap, TradeThink is a scam. His remark that he does not use the past to predict the future is more bull. The past is always a factor in his calculating probabilities. What about the fraudulent broker he sent me to? He tradethink sent me to a crooked broker who defrauded me one week after i paid $14,000 for signals, and tradethink would not give me a refund. Isn't that a mitigating circumstance which deserves a refund despite the no refund policy?If he says he does not know anything about Morse Research Center that is another lie. This guy  repeats, repeats and repeats lies. He figures if he can keep the bullcrap alive he may be able to convince another ignorant trader to give him their money. TradeThink is a loosers game. Traders looking for a working commodity trading system need to look elsewhere unless they need capital losses.


Trader2478

Incline Village,
Nevada,
United States of America
TradeThink for Trade Think systems

#6REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, April 09, 2012

First and foremost TradeThink is proud to offer a complete and unconditional review of our trading signals where a trader can see every trade signal entry and exit that Trade Think generates. Unfortunately many traders trade in a counter productive manor. From time to time, some of our trade signal reviewers do the exact opposite of what it takes to trade successfully. The best time to start trading a strategy is during a draw-down. Some prospective clients with hopes of a get rich quick scheme will wait and watch. They will wait and watch a series of losing trades and then watch a series of winners. Unfortunately, winners come after losers and losers after winners.

Below is a response I just posted in response to the same poster on another website: 

Wow, as a trader and former registered CTA I am aghast. Why would anyone think or believe that the past repeats the future. 

I have been trading and developing systems for nearly twenty years. Whenever there is a draw-down the weak cry wolf. I suppose if others could develop their own systems and have the discipline to stick with them it would be a different story.

Any astute and educated student of the markets knows that there are ups and downs. Top traders that have gone through big swings; Richard Dennis, Bill Dunn, George Soros and the list goes on and on.

This is the first time I have ever heard of or mention of a entity called MRCI. I am the developer and president of TradeThink. I welcome anyone with calls for knowledge or that may have a concern on how systems work.

Good Trading,

President/Developer
TradeThink, Inc.

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