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  • Report:  #347504

Complaint Review: Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson Corporation WSR - Internet

Reported By:
- Montreal, Quebec,
Submitted:
Updated:

Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson Corporation WSR
Internet, U.S.A.
Phone:
+44-(20) 7117 0 700
Web:
N/A
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
I don't know yet if what is this company is doing is a really scam, but I am seriously worrying.

This company advertise on internet company formation. I sent an order and I sent a payment of 1818 euros. The incorporation that was supposed to take only few days s not still done, one month after.

The most worying thing is that when we call them, or "send a support ticket", they don't answer, or answer things that seems to be automatic generic answers.

I worry to not get back my monney nor receive the service I ordered.

May be I am wrong, and this is not a scam, and that they are a serious company. In that case, I would expect to be quickly reimbursed or provided the service I paid for. I that case I will be pleased to write a note on this site to testimony about the company.

If it is not the case, if the service is not rendered and if they don't reimburse me quickly, I would finally conclude that this is a scam, and i would recommand to avoid dealing with them.

Lies

Montreal, Quebec

Canada


3 Updates & Rebuttals

Steve Mcdonagh

Nottingham,
Europe,
United Kingdom
Are scaremongering and intimidation tactics being employed by connections of the WSR/CSR Corporation scam?

#2Consumer Comment

Tue, December 23, 2008

Firstly I would like to reassure all perspective readers of this post, not to be afraid to challenge or comment on the original post or indeed the rebuttal' submitted by alleged' legal counsel for WSR Corporation, as claimed by poster Onlinelawfirm, Birmingham, Europe, United Kingdom' and submitted on 16th October 2008. The fact is that not a single search I conducted regarding authenticity of the alleged legal entity of Patterson Law Firm LLC' yielded even a remotely positive result. Online resources such as the highly respected Chambers Guide' who are acclaimed World leaders in client led intelligence on the legal profession yielded no results. More commonly known business search resources such as Yell' (who has a listing for practically every operational business throughout the UK yielded 42 results, of which none even matched two of the keywords from Patterson Law Firm LLC. It is my personal opinion that this is just another desperate attempt at shameless scaremongering and intimidation being employed by connections of the WSR/CSR Corporation scam. In January 2007 on this website, a poster who called himself John from Spain posted a complaint titled: Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson WSR FAKE LICENSES OFFSHORE FRAUD ripoff... Less than one week later on February 2nd 2007 a rebuttal' was submitted (similar to the one above) allegedly from legal counsel representing WSR Corporation, that stated At this very moment in time our firm has embarked on 27.01.2007, on formal criminal proceedings at the penal court of Palma de Mallorca, for coercion by threat, robbery and extortion against Mr. and Mrs. B - Mr. & Mrs. B were accused in WSR counsels rebuttal of being responsible for the original post that is accredited to John' from Spain'. However, after reading this article I noticed several inconsistencies; Proceedings would have been instigated on a Saturday, one day before the original post was made; there were far too many spelling mistakes in the rebuttal to have been composed by an attorney (IMO) and more importantly, there is NO record of any such proceeding or indeed charge being raised on behalf of either WSR or CSR corporation relating to this matter. Simply put it appears to be nothing more than a false rebuttal designed to scare other readers from posting for fear of legal repercussions, as well as a cunning and timely response aimed at persuading unsuspecting potential customers that WSR/CSR are indeed a legitimate company who will honour any business agreements. Which quite frankly they will not and this is the reason I offer a rebuttal of this bogus and transparent tactic in defence of the original complaint. In researching data for my post today (as a direct result of reading alleged (WSR Corporation) counsels rebuttal to the original complaint posted by A Client' on July 4th 2008, I was able to discover two more fresh leads in the WSR/CSR online scams. So I would like to ask more alleged counsel for WSR/CSR to rebut more online complaints, because I sincerely believe they are leaking more information and making more mistakes (that will eventually lead to their capture) than they are helping to sustain the fraud. As I predicted they would in an earlier thread a copy of which is below for your perusal. Whitherspoon, Seymour & Robinson, also known as WSR Corporation, are now trading online as CSR Corporation - They simply changed the 'W' to a 'C'. CSR Corporation or CSR Europe Limited (Company Registration No: 05533843) was incorporated with the United Kingdom Companies House on 11th August 2005 and subsequently Dissolved on 22nd May 2007. The registered address for CSR Europe Limited is the infamous (more on this address later): Suite 35 95 Wilton Road LONDON SW1V 1BZ This address is the same address used to register their old domain name WSR-Corporation.com on 27th Nov 2005 and the same address listed on their current CSR-Corporation.com website (registered on November 11th 2008 presumably in time for Xmas), as well as various other scam' related websites. It is a Mailbox Hub that houses no offices belonging to any company apart from the company who rent out Mail/PO Boxes to Companies such as Whitherspoon, Seymour & Robinson, WSR Corporation, CSR Corporation and CSR Europe Limited. Who are basically only using them for the sole purpose of misleading people for financial gain through fraudulent and deceptive means? This system of deception has been used for many years. If you click www.WSR-Coporation.com you will automatically be redirected to www.CSR-Coporation.com, where they are promising and I quote "All orders placed before 19 December 2008 will be processed before Christmas holidays. Guaranteed!" Unfortunately, I found this advertisement (through a Google search) whilst trying to set up a new UK company before Jan 1st 2009 and because of the time frame, I neglected to do my usual thorough vetting of this company and instead chose to rely on the four guidelines that have helped me to spot fraudulent or fake websites in the past. This time however, my hasty decision cost me nearly 700. So I implore you to do a thorough background check before handing over any money to online companies. CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) are listed on Google via a Sponsored Links' advertisement which would yield some good leads on these criminals if Google would or could be persuaded or forced to disclose who set the account up and where the payment came from. These people, as there are at least two females involved, have been pulling this fraud for a long time, possibly since 1998/99 (in their customer support panel, one page displays the date as being 1999) and they have obviously become very sophisticated at it. They seem to like keeping similar company names (for what purpose I have not found out yet) and quite possibly the same or similar website designs/functions/structures, which makes perfect sense due to the time and costs incurred with consistently changing them. Having said that, there is a definite link to a German online software website called Adam internet & Software' which is purportedly registered to a one Mike Adam. His name as we will see later connected with more than one of these fraudulent WSR/CSR websites. All the telephone numbers (18 in Total) listed on the current CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) website all divert back to one line, reportedly in the UK, although I have obvious reservations about this. I can tell you that the IP address I traced for the current CSR Corporation website is: (((Redacted))) Both these IP's are located in Berlin, Germany as is Mike Adam's Adam internet & Software' website. A search of the name Mike Adam, throws up some interesting information as does Greg Bennett, the other male' name listed in connection with nearly all of these bogus WSR/CSR websites. It is worth noting that I personally spoke twice to a woman when I called one of their websites telephone numbers, who told me her name was Kim Becker. She was supposedly a consultant' and she did sound (to me) like she had possibly either a German or Belgian accent (I spent some time in both countries last year), so the Berlin IP location may probably be a solid lead. There was also another woman who answered the phone the first time I phoned, passing herself off as a receptionist, but I could not make out her accent. In my email correspondence with CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) there were three female names listed in various replies; Kim Becker (consultant); April Johnson (Accounting) and Susan Herbst (Compliance Manager) and emails from Kim Becker in particular had return addresses for both CSR and WSR Corporations. This proves they are vulnerable to careless mistakes and everyone should be on the lookout for these or similar names in any emails. 95 Wilton Road, Suite 3, London, SW1V 1BZ. Is the address used in the registration of at least four WSR/CSR related websites; WSR-Corporation, CSR-Corporation, Whitherspoon.net and Whitherspoon.com. Two more addresses are linked into this fraudulent organisation and they are: 140 Ashley Crescent, London, SW11 5QZ - which is listed as a known address for fraudulent and bogus activities on the government run bogus agencies' website located at http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/data_protection/notification/bogus_agencies.aspx - and an American address: 1461 A First Avenue, Suite 360, New York which I am still gathering information on. The name Greg Bennett is linked to all the above websites and all the addresses listed with them, as well as another WSR/CSR fraudulent website called WSR.biz. Whose addresses are listed as both 1461 A First Avenue, Suite 360, New York (Registrant) and 140 Ashley Crescent, London, SW11 5QZ (Billing). The name Mike Adam is linked to both; Witherspoon.com and Witherspoon.net (both as Technical contact) as well as Adam internet & Software' - whose website is located at: http://www.a-i-s.de but to only one address: Habichtstrasse 20, Hattingen, 45527, Germany'. I have evidence to support everything I have written here about Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson, WSR Corporation, CSR Corporation, Witherspoon.net, Witherspoon.com, WSR.BIZ, CSR Europe Limited, Greg Bennett, Mike Adam, Kim Becker, April Johnson, Susan Herbst and of course the addresses mentioned. To conclude, I just want to inform the readers that I have lodged official complaints to the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police and Interpol. I will be lodging more complaints as well as doing my best to warn people (like I am doing now) on various forums, consumer related complaints websites, official online fraud prevention/reporting websites as well as setting up my own websites such as www.WSRfraudwatch.info that will be dedicated to warning others and helping the authorities capture and imprison the people behind these scams. I had no prior knowledge or dealings with any of the above prior to Dec 9th 2008 when I became another victim of their ongoing fraud, but I will reiterate that that this victim' intends to fight back and so should you. Taking the time to register and post replies and comments to legitimate complaints, will help websites such as this one obtain a higher search engine position, which will in turn help offset the criminal intentions of these fraudulent websites by supplying potential victims with information of their illegal activities. Simply put, we can gain some revenge by helping others to avoid becoming victims and forcing these desperate conmen in to making mistakes that will ultimately lead to their capture. Thank you for reading. Please Note: The CSR-Corporation website was registered on November 11th 2008, so this is likely their most recent flagship' for the purpose of fraud. WSR.BIZ was registered on November 7th 2001 and expires on November 6th 2012, which shows the depth of this organisation. Witherspoon.com was registered on November 24th 2007 and expires on November 6th 2012. Witherspoon.net was registered on November 24th 2007 and expires on November 6th 2012. *** A website called WSRevents.com was created on August 27th 2008, but I have no information to ascertain if this is part of the WSR/CSR fraudulent website and company's organisation at this time. However, this website does display the words WSR BIZWIZ' tm in very larger font as well as in an extremely prominent position; which I personally, find very alarming. CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Online-lawfirm

Birmingham,
Europe,
United Kingdom
www.humilisfinance.com fraud posting Humilis Finance fraud posting Humilis Investment II Ltd fraud posting

#3UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, October 16, 2008

The claims or information published in this post are inaccurate, inflammatory, and slanderous. Though the United States has no current legal authority to hold such individuals liable within their jurisdiction, voluntary supervisory organisations, such as ChillingEffects, work with major search engines to remove these posts from databases. We have determined the individuals responsible for this defamation and the law firm of WSR, Patterson Law Firm LLC, is pursuing prosecution of this individuals: Humilis Investment II Ltd (a company without any financial service license) also trading as Humilis Finance www.humilisfinance.com LIES KERRAR 597 Cote Sainte Catherine Outremont Montreal (Quebec) H2V2C2 Canada born (DMY): 1968 in Algiers nationality: Canada He has filed several reports on this and other sites under various names. If anybody has questions or concerns about this report, its content or repurcussions, or has also been a victim of this individuals, please do not hesitate to contact WSR directly at [email protected] or via fax at +44 20 7117 4700. Thank you for your attention in this matter.


A client

Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada
WSR update

#4Author of original report

Tue, September 30, 2008

We actually received incorporation documentation 12 weeks after we sent the payment. Not all the services ordered and paid have been yet rendered and no requested reimbursement for not yet rendered services received.

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