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  • Report:  #363792

Complaint Review: WSR Corporation - London Internet

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WSR Corporation
www.wsr-corporation.com London, Internet, Europe
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we ordered at www.wsr-corporation.com an offshore company and a gambling license to obtain the rights to explore an online gaming business world wide.

We paid the fees like proscribed on their website. information about the offshore company including the gambling license I will submit underneath.

After we received the order number and WSR told us they were proceeding in the setup of this business, we found out that our offshore corporation is being founded in Costa Rica. (we had no say in this at front although we were told we would). Okay, this could be a misunderstanding (we are sure it was not) but, the procedures were moving forward and we were assured that costa rica was the right choice to answer our wishes and we would be able, with this corporation in Costa rica, to explore our new project.

After a search trough the web and after conversations with our fiscals we were assured that there is no thing as a gambling license in C.R. and there are only laws which doesn't prohibit this gaming business. So the government does not give a license simply because there is no.

We asked WSR for explanations for several times. By email, by phone conversations etc. they are being very rude from this moment on, and they are screaming, yelling and being very aggressive, but not answering any of our questions.( and of course the best way to hide your mistakes is to attack, which they are very good at, they are changing turns and telling us to stop the phone terror etc.) The are only saying that there is no need to explain this to us, that we are wrong but non of their statements have been proven by articles, laws or some of that. Even not after we send them some of the articles which proves the none existence.

So in one of our last emails we told them we would discuss this issue with our lawyers.

We have the feeling that these scammers are not impressed and they think we are bluffing. So we would like to get a lawyer just to make one phone call to WSR and see how they react. Maybe a lawyer does get a reaction or an explanation why they are selling subject which does not exists. Maybe there is a good explanation for the non existing license but we lost all trust because they did not gave us an answer at all.

we don't now what to do now and we are hoping to do something all together to stop these people and get our money back.

Peter

nederland

Netherlands


2 Updates & Rebuttals

Steve Mcdonagh

Nottingham,
Europe,
United Kingdom
I am very sorry to hear your story, but unfortunately you are not the only ones who have suffered both financially and psychologically at the hands of

#2Consumer Comment

Tue, December 23, 2008

Hi Peter, Netherlands. I am very sorry to hear your story, but unfortunately you are not the only ones who have suffered both financially and psychologically at the hands of WSR Corporation - otherwise known as Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson, CSR Corporation, Witherspoon.net, Witherspoon.com, WSR.BIZ, CSR Europe Limited, Money-Facile.com and possibly quite a few more which I will list, as soon as I can verify beyond a reasonable doubt that they are part of the same organisation. Please understand that these are a highly sophisticated fraud organisation that have (from my research) been doing this for many years. They are a group, one or more of which has excellent knowledge and skills in computer technology, software and website design and they have absolutely no fear of prosecution because they consider the web they have weaved, to be so tangled that the centre of it (where they reside) is just too well hidden. They also know that, law enforcement agencies are reluctant to get involved chasing internet fraudsters unless there is either significant evidence already accumulated or indeed the perpetrated fraud is somehow linked to terror organisations. Lawyers can do even less in my opinion and therefore spending money on one at this stage is much more likely to be a costly and fruitless exercise. I believe the way forward Peter (and other readers) is for the victims and potential victims to join forces and form a community with the sole initial focus of gathering factually based information on these people and more importantly sharing it with others. This will serve several positive purposes: 1) Form a community where victims will not feel alone, helpless and in some cases foolish strength in numbers. 2) Allow us to collectively and more efficiently gather the necessary information that will be required for law enforcement agencies to make a conclusive investigation leading to their arrest and imprisonment. 3) The pooling of our resources, sharing of knowledge, skills and ideas, will help us devise a more effective long term strategy as well as being affective in the short term I have already set up a website (under construction as I type this) with a forum especially for this purpose. 4) Help us to accumulate and verify information that can then be confidently submitted and updated on all other fraud prevention, fraud reporting and government/law enforcement websites as well as sending letters to our respective politicians; giving us a much louder voice when demanding that something is done this is how lobby groups are formed. 5) Providing regular information and updates will, alert other potential victims to the danger of this organisations websites, disrupt their illegal business activities and force more of them out of the woodwork where they are more vulnerable to making mistakes that will lead to their capture. Twice (that I know of) alleged' legal representatives of WSR/CSR Corporation have tried to defend WSR/CSR position by submitting rebuttals to seemingly completely legitimate complaints, that have inadvertently only led to the discovery of two more hot leads. To once again back up what I have said, I have added a more comprehensive list of factually based information below. This is by no means all the evidence I have; it is just the evidence that is appropriate to share at this time without disrupting my other ongoing research. Thank you for reading and please add comments if you have any experience or knowledge regarding this organisation. If you are afraid to post information or indeed have confidential personal information on any persons involved with WSR/CSR Corporations or any of the websites that I have listed in this post; you can email me directly at: [email protected] Copy of some information already gathered that supports my position and opinion as stated in this post: Whitherspoon, Seymour & Robinson, also known as WSR Corporation, are now trading online as CSR Corporation - They simply changed the 'W' to a 'C'. CSR Corporation or CSR Europe Limited (Company Registration No: 05533843) was incorporated with the United Kingdom Companies House on 11th August 2005 and subsequently Dissolved on 22nd May 2007. The registered address for CSR Europe Limited is the infamous (more on this address later): Suite 35 95 Wilton Road LONDON SW1V 1BZ This address is the same address used to register their old domain name WSR-Corporation.com on 27th Nov 2005 and the same address listed on their current CSR-Corporation.com website (registered on November 11th 2008 presumably in time for Xmas), as well as various other scam' related websites. It is a Mailbox Hub that houses no offices belonging to any company apart from the company who rent out Mail/PO Boxes to Companies such as Whitherspoon, Seymour & Robinson, WSR Corporation, CSR Corporation and CSR Europe Limited. Who are basically only using them for the sole purpose of misleading people for financial gain through fraudulent and deceptive means? This system of deception has been used for many years. If you click www.WSR-Coporation.com you will automatically be redirected to www.CSR-Coporation.com, where they are promising and I quote "All orders placed before 19 December 2008 will be processed before Christmas holidays. Guaranteed!" Unfortunately, I found this advertisement (through a Google search) whilst trying to set up a new UK company before Jan 1st 2009 and because of the time frame, I neglected to do my usual thorough vetting of this company and instead chose to rely on the four guidelines that have helped me to spot fraudulent or fake websites in the past. This time however, my hasty decision cost me nearly 700. So I implore you to do a thorough background check before handing over any money to online companies. CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) are listed on Google via a Sponsored Links' advertisement which would yield some good leads on these criminals if Google would or could be persuaded or forced to disclose who set the account up and where the payment came from. These people, as there are at least two females involved, have been pulling this fraud for a long time, possibly since 1998/99 (in their customer support panel, one page displays the date as being 1999) and they have obviously become very sophisticated at it. They seem to like keeping similar company names (for what purpose I have not found out yet) and quite possibly the same or similar website designs/functions/structures, which makes perfect sense due to the time and costs incurred with consistently changing them. Having said that, there is a definite link to a German online software website called Adam internet & Software' which is purportedly registered to a one Mike Adam. His name as we will see later connected with more than one of these fraudulent WSR/CSR websites. All the telephone numbers (18 in Total) listed on the current CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) website all divert back to one line, reportedly in the UK, although I have obvious reservations about this. I can tell you that the IP address I traced for the current CSR Corporation website is: 87.106.162.90 and an IP address I traced through a No-Reply' email they sent me confirming my payment is: 212.227.62.57 Both these IP's are located in Berlin, Germany as is Mike Adam's Adam internet & Software' website. A search of the name Mike Adam, throws up some interesting information as does Greg Bennett, the other male' name listed in connection with nearly all of these bogus WSR/CSR websites. It is worth noting that I personally spoke twice to a woman when I called one of their websites telephone numbers, who told me her name was Kim Becker. She was supposedly a consultant' and she did sound (to me) like she had possibly either a German or Belgian accent (I spent some time in both countries last year), so the Berlin IP location may probably be a solid lead. There was also another woman who answered the phone the first time I phoned, passing herself off as a receptionist, but I could not make out her accent. In my email correspondence with CSR Corporation (formerly known as WSR Corporation) there were three female names listed in various replies; Kim Becker (consultant); April Johnson (Accounting) and Susan Herbst (Compliance Manager) and emails from Kim Becker in particular had return addresses for both CSR and WSR Corporations. So this proves they are vulnerable to careless mistakes and everyone should be on the lookout for these or similar names in any emails. 95 Wilton Road, Suite 3, London, SW1V 1BZ. Is the address used in the registration of at least four WSR/CSR related websites; WSR-Corporation, CSR-Corporation, Whitherspoon.net and Whitherspoon.com. Two more addresses are linked into this fraudulent organisation and they are: 140 Ashley Crescent, London, SW11 5QZ - which is listed as a known address for fraudulent and bogus activities on the government run bogus agencies' website located at http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/data_protection/notification/bogus_agencies.aspx - and an American address: 1461 A First Avenue, Suite 360, New York which I am still gathering information on. The name Greg Bennett is linked to all the above websites and all the addresses listed with them, as well as another WSR/CSR fraudulent website called WSR.biz. Whose addresses are listed as both 1461 A First Avenue, Suite 360, New York (Registrant) and 140 Ashley Crescent, London, SW11 5QZ (Billing). The name Mike Adam is linked to both; Witherspoon.com and Witherspoon.net (both as Technical contact) as well as Adam internet & Software' - whose website is located at: http://www.a-i-s.de but to only one address: Habichtstrasse 20, Hattingen, 45527, Germany'. I have evidence to support everything I have written here about Whitherspoon Seymour & Robinson, WSR Corporation, CSR Corporation, Witherspoon.net, Witherspoon.com, WSR.biz, CSR Europe Limited, Greg Bennett, Mike Adam, Kim Becker, April Johnson, Susan Herbst and of course the addresses mentioned. To conclude, I just want to inform the readers that I have lodged official complaints to the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police and Interpol. I will be lodging more complaints as well as doing my best to warn people (like I am doing now) on various forums, consumer related complaints websites, official online fraud prevention/reporting websites as well as setting up my own websites such as www.WSRfraudwatch.info that will be dedicated to warning others and helping the authorities capture and imprison the people behind these scams. I had no prior knowledge or dealings with any of the above prior to Dec 9th 2008 when I became another victim of their ongoing fraud, but I will reiterate that that this victim' intends to fight back and so should you. Taking the time to register and post replies and comments to legitimate complaints, will help websites such as this one obtain a higher search engine position, which will in turn help offset the criminal intentions of these fraudulent websites by supplying potential victims with information of their illegal activities. Simply put, we can gain some revenge by helping others to avoid becoming victims and forcing these desperate conmen in to making mistakes that will ultimately lead to their capture. Thank you for reading. Please Note: The CSR-Corporation website was registered on November 11th 2008, so this is likely their most recent flagship' for the purpose of fraud. WSR.biz was registered on November 7th 2001 and expires on November 6th 2012, which shows the depth of this organisation. Witherspoon.com was registered on November 24th 2007 and expires on November 6th 2012. Witherspoon.net was registered on November 24th 2007 and expires on November 6th 2012. *** A website called WSRevents.com was created on August 27th 2008, but I have no information to ascertain if this is part of the WSR/CSR fraudulent website and company's organisation at this time. However, this website does display the words WSR BIZWIZ' tm in very larger font as well as in an extremely prominent position; which I personally, find very alarming.


John

NY,
New York,
U.S.A.
!!!! WARNING !!!! wsr-corporation.com IS A SCAM

#3REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, October 10, 2008

!!! WARNNG !! wsr-corporation.com is JUST A SCAMM !!!! AVOID !!

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