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  • Report:  #793223

Complaint Review: ANGELINE INTERNATIONAL LLC Is Scam - Gerber California

Reported By:
Neil - , New York, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

ANGELINE INTERNATIONAL LLC Is Scam
130 Prospect St, Jersey City , NJ 07307 Gerber, 96035 California, United States of America
Phone:
Web:
http://www.angelinei.com/
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Hi All

The story started when I found Ginger Guan from exporters website. She goes by the company name ANGELINE INTERNATIONAL LLC, 130 Prospect St, Jersey City, NJ, 07303

She claimed to sell ipods, iphones and other apple products. She sent me the price list.  She told me that she works with Fred Gonsalves  and that he is the actual supplier that has many connections with wholesalers. I called Ginger Guan many
times and placed order for Mac books.  

 They sound legit initially they offer me that they can do LOC or any other secure payment method.

I was in touch with Ginger Guan and fred gonsalves for two months that how we can secure this deal.

A lot of ups and down dealing with them.. Finally they convince me to make advance payment of 30% and we will get your apple products in bonded warehouse so you can inspect and release the rest of the payment and take your products.

Sounds really legit .. I wired  7000 in Fred Gonsalves account in August in his Bank of America account opend in California... Thats it once i deposit the money and after two weeks i inquire about the products they start giving me excuses  that supplier is having issues in Shenzen China to source the products, or some sports activities are going on in china
and thats why its a delay in your order Same all story over and over 

 This is it once after one month i knew i got scammed .. All please be aware doing business with them once you trust them and transfer 30 % advance payment to them you will not get anything... Ginger Guan is scam resident of jersey city NJ, Fred Gonsalves is scam ( Northwest wholesale network )  They all work together.. 

I would like to cooperate with every body who got scammed by Ginger Guan and Fred Gonsalves  so we can start a law
suit and get our money back. I have all the supporting documents, emails, and wire papers.

Thank you

Neil


2 Updates & Rebuttals

Perturbed

Stockton,
California,
Updated typing errors corrections

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, September 26, 2014

Please find the following paragraph with typing corrections:

I sincerely feel bad for my customers who lost money.  I never accepted money nor invoiced them, but I did take their orders, and of course, as all bad things do, it was a poor reflection on me.  I never scammed them, acted with any intentions of wrong doing, nor was an active or knowing part of any scams of Fred Gonsalves.  Afterwards I saw on several sites that he had a long history of scams by using his other family members names and bank accounts to get people to send him money, including his daughter.  Whether they were active parts of his scams or not, I cannot say.  I can just say that at the time, I had no idea what he was.

 


Perturbed

Stockton,
California,
Ginger Guan is not a scam

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, September 25, 2014

Some years ago I had the misfortune of working with Fred Gonsalves who proclaimed himself to be a supplier of Apple products, not knowing that he was a master scam artist.  I was working as a broker and had two customers orders in with him at the same time.  I encouraged the customers as I do all customers even today, to execute only secure payment methods, not because I knew Fred Gonsalves was a fraud, but because I care about my customers and believe it is the right thing to do.

The customers decided to make deposits to his Bank of America account.  Unfortunately, both customers lost their deposits to Fred Gonsalves, who after taking their money, started coming up with excuses of delays from the suppliers in China, and then excuses of losing money by them disappearing with the money he said he had sent for the product. He then at one point claimed that he had received a shipment from another supplier, but the goods were not there, only shoes!  He even sent me photos of some opened boxes to convince me he was on the up and up.  While he was telling me he was resolving the issues with the suppliers in China, he was just buying himself time and sympathy from me, letting me take the hot seat with the customers.

Even before I finally figured out that Fred Gonsalves was a scam artist, I tried desperately to try to get him to deliver the product to the two customers, or give them back their money without delay.  Always he kept telling me that he needed to get product, sell it and with the profit he could pay back my two customers.  His excuses were never ending and although he had every opportunity to do the right thing, he just kept rolling on with excuses but never forthcoming with the money.  I tried to get him to pay up, but had no way to force him.

I sincerely feel bad for my customers who lost money.  I never accepted money nor invoiced them, but I did take their orders, and of course, as all bad things do, it was a poor reflection on me.  I scammed them, acted with any intentions of wrong doing, nor was an active or knowing part of any scams of Fred Gonsalves.  Afterwards I saw on several sites that he had a long history of scams by using his other family members names and bank accounts to get people to send him money, including his daughter.  Whether they were active parts of his scams or not, I cannot say.  I can just say that at the time, I had no idea what he was.

All that i can attest to is that I never cheated anyone out of a penny in my life.  My company is active and in good standing all these years and I have never had a problem.  Since that experience I have a very strict policy of never working with suppliers who require payments or deposits directly to them, by credit card, paypal or any means other than escrow (usually through third party escrow freight forwarders) or ILC.  Suppliers are verified and customers cannot lose money to any type of fraud.  I never take payments unless I buy goods myself and resell them.

In business we all take risks and must trust at some point.  We all have good experiences and bad.  We never think we can be victims of scams, but it happens, even when you think it can't happen to you.  Know your suppliers.  Know your customers.  Do your own due diligence.  Protect yourselves.  It isn't a perfect world out there.  Not all that is written is true, but some is.  Fred Gonsalves was a definite fraud.  I was a victim of his too, not a willing and knowing party to his scams.

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