Complaint Review: Bell Rd. Honda - phoenix Arizona

But I have been in the auto biz and related most of my life. And have been in the automotive electronics field since I graduated with a degree in electrical engineering .

Now I do not know for a fact the dealer only paid 50 bucks for an alarm they are charging $700.00 for, but I do know FIRST hand that the price of 50 dollars is what most alarms are dealer cost. I also know of the SCAM they pull using the sticker on the window that says something to the effect..."this vehicle is equipped with a anti theft system which must be removed at time of sale, etc"..

The reason the DEALER puts that sticker on the window, is so they can imply this is some kind of special, sophisticated anti-theft system..and they are not supposed to sell it with the vehicle. What it is..is a 10 dollar starter kill, which is easily bypassed with a paper clip. But what they do, is tell the customer they will "throw" it in on the deal..and tack it onto the monthly payments so they make a killing on a useless piece of s**t.

You might be interested to know, that most vehicles these days, come equipped from the factory at no additional cost, with an immobilizer anti theft system (transponder key) which is nearly impossible to bypass, late model Hondas being included..Other then having the proper key, or flatbedding the car away, there is nothing else better to prevent theft. The dealer may not tell their customers this if they are making a killing off some cheap alarm system..make sense? Now yes, an alarm system is a deterrent and can be a good investment...for 200 bucks, not 700.

If the customer is savvy, and request the unit to be removed rather then pay anything or have the numbers manipulated, the dealer actually does not remove it. WHY, you may ask??. Because it is such a cheap useless piece of s**t, that it costs more to remove it, then it is worth. So they simply leave it in, which is why you see so many cars with that slot under the dash that does nothing.

 Now unless this dealership is the only one in the universe that is actually installing a 700 dollar alarm system, if one even exists...let us know.

Otherwise, listen to the experts like myself, who know EXACTLY how these dealerships operate.

I never claimed to be an expert or authority on finance and insurance. But I have as a consumer had to finance a car in the past, and as a driver on the public roads of America, am legally REQUIRED to have insurance before being allowed to drive off in a vehicle sold to me by a licensed dealership.

Now, unless you know more then the author of this report or myself about what an alarm costs, or if a vehicle can be financed without income verification... or the laws regarding allowing a vehicle to be driven off without providing proper insurance documentation, please educate us.

 Or, stick to judging reports based on spelling and grammar, and provide no other useful information. Either one works for me.

    So, Ronny G, just how did you become the worlds foremost authority on the automobile business??? My God you know everything!!! I've been in this business for the better part of thirty years and I don't know a fraction of what you know. You even know that this dealer paid $50.00 for an alarm system that they charged $700.00 for. You're even an expert on F&I. Could you please share some of this vast knowledge with me??

It is just a long report and it takes a degree of attention span to read it. Most people are simply too stupid or have no attention span and call it "ADD", but that is often not professionally diagnosed, just an excuse for uneducated and slow.

Yes, the report contains a few "ya's" and "wit", but I had no problem whatsoever making out the complaint, and the few slang terms did not take away any merit. "Ya" is just a way of saying "yeah", it was spelled this way intentionally. There may be one or two typos, but nothing that anyone with even a fifth grade education would have trouble determining what was intended to be typed.

As far as Joe's response, and I quote..."I can't believe anything you write here. You can't spell you can't write you are a complete moron. Whatever you did I think it is just a case of buyers remorse. Learn how to spell and maybe someone will believe you!!!!

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Try some punctuation next time Joe. You have basically pulverized the English language, and then reply here to mock and judge a report based on spelling errors while the spelling in this report is 99% better then 99% of the reports I read here.

Perhaps you can share evidence of how this poster does not how how to spell and post the corrections? And how the spelling was so poor that no one would believe or comprehend the report? IF, you are capable of actually reading this much??

My opinion. The dealer tried to rip this consumer off, attach an alarm to it for 700 bucks stating it would cost them nothing (probably a cheap 50 dollar alarm anyhow)., but was actually being "worked" into the payments. I believe the dealers refer to this as "up-selling"..a nicer term then RIPOFF, which is what it actually is.

It also seems they may be falsifying documents to approve loans..something the housing market was doing a few years ago and look where it got us. Auto dealers have been known to do this as well, and it can get them into BIG trouble.

There also seems to be a plethora of other ethical issues with this whole deal, I hope you are not committed to it, and I hope you can return this car for a refund of any funds they took from your account, or get you into a deal as agreed upon, if any. How they can approve any financing without pay stubs, and allow you to drive away a vehicle from them without proper insurance is beyond me..it is flabbergasting to be honest.

I would START..yes...start with the state attorney general and go from there if this dealer will not offer any satisfaction or recourse.

I can't believe anything you write here. You can't spell you can't write you are a complete moron. Whatever you did I think it is just a case of buyers remorse. Learn how to spell and maybe someone will believe you!!!!