Tim
grand haven,#2Consumer Comment
Sat, December 07, 2002
It seems to me that the Venetian was probably not involved in this scam, and was probably oblivious to the fact that it was transpiring until they began recieving complaints from the people who were scammed. Per the information in the original report, there is no evidence to suggest that the Venetian was actually involved, but that the perpetrator was bingoleaugue.com. As such, the original rebuttal is accurate (and logical); it is foolish to hold the Venetian responsible when the scam was perpetrated in their ignorance by a third party. An argument closer to the respondents logic would be a case where someone was on The Price is Right and lost out on a new car because of a mistake by Bob Barker. To seek restitution from the vehicle manufacturer would be futile, as their product is merely a prize offered by a different company. I find it hard to believe that the Venetian was involved for a couple of reasons. First, the Venetian is a hugely successful casino-resort, and makes millions of dollars a year without exceeding the accpeted level of scamming that casinos perpetrate on a regular basis. With a 5% house edge on roullette, why would they need to risk such a shoddy, unproffessional con? Second, the Venetian does not have a bingo room, and is not the type of casino that offers bingo in the first place. All that aside, I am in love with this website... keep up the good work.
#30
Wed, November 20, 2002
You have fallen prey to a fallacy. The example you propose is not logical and follows no accepted pattern of reasoning. Try this, which is more like it: "If the Acme Marketing firm informed you that you had won a number of General Motors-affiliated products to be delivered at a later date; one Chevy Malibu, with a free upgraded sound system with CD player and a year's supply of gas... Then are you telling me you would still not hold General Motors responsible for reneging on the deal if you later contacted the marketing firm and they told you that General Motors now says that you have to travel to Detroit (from Nyssa, Oregon), pay excise tax, dock fees, delivery & prep fees, yada yada yada, in order to qualify for the prize? Now, do you see the similarity, the scam and the level of participation the Venetian must have joined in this rip-off? If you are going to make an argument, show some intellectual integrity. ED Magedson [email protected]
Ken
Las Vegas,#4Consumer Comment
Tue, November 19, 2002
If "Acme Products" told you that you've won a brand new Chevrolet, and you never received the car, there would be absolutely no way that you could hold General Motors responsible.
If "XYZ Company" sent you an e-mail stating that they'd give you a brand new Sony TV for only $25 and it never arrived, you surely couldn't say that Sony is ripping you off.
So why do the same with the Venetian??? It is NOT the Venetian Hotel that sent you the offer. The Venetian Hotel doesn't even have a Bingo room in it!!!
You should take up the issues with the fraudulent company that claimed to be holding the Bingo event that you described, NOT the Venetian.