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  • Report:  #240578

Complaint Review: Business First Solutions Inc. Bfsworks.com - Orlando Florida

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- lewisburg, Tennessee,
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Updated:

Business First Solutions Inc. Bfsworks.com
7121 Grand National Dr. Suite 106 Orlando, 32819 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
321-251-4607
Web:
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Although I will admit I have no negative information to report on Business First Solutions, Inc. I will warn you it run by the same people that have scammed thousands in the timeshare resale market with their websites www.timesharefsbo.com and www.timesharemls.org.

Business First Solutions, Inc. may actually deliver what they say--unlike the over inflated guarantees and flat out lies they give with their resale division--but my question is....do you really want to take the change?? They have no problem in operating their resale businesses with their fingers crossed--should we believe they will operate the VoIP business any differently??

Maybe they have turned a new leaf and have decided to fly straight, in which case we should anticipate them closing their resale entities immediately and refunding all the millions of dollars they have taken from desperate timeshare owners across the country and in England. Maybe just maybe they will.......but I wouldn't plan on taking a vacation based on that refund just yet.........or ever!!!!

timesharefsbo.com

timesharemls.org and now

bfsworks.com

their motto..it's getting too darn hard to scam timeshare owners so now we're going to scam voip customers

The above reflects my opinion and in no way reflects the above mentioned company's actual company motto---not the one they'll put in writing anyway!!

Gary

lewisburg, Tennessee
U.S.A.


4 Updates & Rebuttals

Gary

lewisburg,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.
Timeshare Resale Scam

#2Author of original report

Fri, July 20, 2007

The "Discredit" of me originates from Timesharemls.org which operates under the umbrella of CHL Marketing, Inc. which also operates Timesharefsbo.com. These are advance fee timeshare resale companies. The General Manager of CHL Marketing also owns Business First Solutions which is primarily a VoIP business. As I mentioned above I have no direct dealing with Business First Solutions but have dealt with the General Manager of CHL Marketing who owns Business First Solutions. Both CHL Marketing and Business First Solutions are operated out of the same location. In order to get a feel for the person or people who posted the "Discredit" above only needs to do a search for "timeshare resale scams" "timeshare resale fraud" or "advance fee timeshare scams or frauds" and then read the vast array of negative articles, post and stories of this particular industry. You won't see merely a few negative stories but will see on website after website, story after story, warning after warning about this industry. The writers of the above "Discredit" have made a great deal of money off the timeshare resale industry and may now be losing a little bit of money from all this negative press.


Gary

Lewisburg,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.
Adressing the "Discredit" of me by Timesharemls.org--timeshare resale scam company

#3Author of original report

Thu, July 19, 2007

To address the "Discredit" of me from the owner of Timesharemls.org I submit the following: I freely admit I was a sales manager for Vacation Break USA and APEX Marketing which were both eventually purchased by Fairfield Resorts which is now owned by Wyndham. We did sell vacation packages to generate tours to timeshares. I have never had a problem per se with timeshares since there are very good ones out there and many timeshare owners are happy with their units. My problem is with the upfront fee resale companies of the world. At Vacation Break we sold packages mostly in the $399 range but if a customer wanted a carnival cruise it would be $899. At APEX and Fairfield we sold the 3 day 2 night get aways for a price of around $99 to $129. As for Caribe Marketing I never worked with that organization. The reason his clients have never paid any money to me or as he put it "refused to pay me money" is because as I've mentioned before I never submitted any sales to "His" company..didn't have the stomach to rip these people off for a worthless up front fee timeshare resale package. Back in my younger days I also managed a Burger King Restaurant which he didn't mention. I'm sure my restaurant had a complaint during the 4 years I was there but when my customers paid their money for a whopper fries and coke, well, that's exactly what they got! Anything else anyone wants to know about me please ask and I'll be happy to answer. Howard, I guess you must be losing some sales to get a feed back from you or whatever lacky you had post this. Thanks for that feedback. It's nice to know I am making a difference.


Legal

Orlando,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Gary Manning TN Discredit

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, July 17, 2007

PLEASE BE ADVISED. Gary Manning is utilizing consumer reports and timeshare industry forums to share the slanted view of his experience with my clients. To this date my clients have refused to pay any money to Gary Manning and they have not posted a single reply to his posts. Unfortunately he has gone too far with his slander and libel. To discredit Gary Manning a history of his employment and career involvement is due. Gary Manning managed Vacation Break USA a vacation package company. He sold vacation packages up to $899 in up front fees. It was alleged that the travel and timeshare marketer deceived consumers into thinking they won "free" vacations that ultimately cost them hundreds of dollars. A link to the report below. Gary also worked for APEX Marketing who had multiple investigations from multiple states Attorney Generals and an uproar of consumer complaints. Another link below shows the numerous consumer complaints. These are only some of Gary Manning's involvements and more recently he has been involved with Caribe Marketing, who is also under scrutiny. See below. Please be advised that Gary's comments are only a tactic of libel. He has only recently given the appearance of being generally concerned with the upfront fee timeshare resale market. My clients are in preparation of filing suit against Gary Manning for his slander and libel. Continued publication of his existing or responding posts might involve a cease and desist order to your internet service or hosting provider. This discredit of Gary Manning is being submitted to all websites and forums that Gary Manning is utilizing. All information is deemed to be true and has been collected by public sources. PLEASE BE ADVISED. Gary Manning at Vacation Break USA http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?A=1772&Q=282386 Gary Manning at APEX Marketing http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q5=Apex+Marketing&submit2=Search%21&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0 Gary Manning and Caribe Marketing http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/179/ripoff0179345.htm


E

Orlando,
Florida,
U.S.A.
BFSWorks service similar to FSBO.

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, March 27, 2007

Having both worked for Timeshare FSBO, MLS and Timeshare Resales USA (TRUSA), which are all in fact the same company under CHL Marketing and TelcomMarketing Research Inc, and having worked for telemarketing rooms which used the services of BFSWorks (Business First Solutions), I can definitely say that the level of service between the two is consistent. Business First Solutions provided a 'voice over IP' system for a business I worked with -- one of their timeshare associates, no less! -- and not only was the service unavailable for several hours each week, the phones provided were, in fact, standard phones, which used VoIP converters, drastically reducing the quality of the transmissions. Business First Solutions is run by Jon Warren, general manager of CHL Marketing and Timeshare MLS, so you can see where the poor service comes from!

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