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  • Report:  #274276

Complaint Review: Centennial Marketing Group CMG Richard De Sousa - Montreal Quebec

Reported By:
- Montreal, Quebec,
Submitted:
Updated:

Centennial Marketing Group CMG Richard De Sousa
1111 St.Urbain Montreal, H2Z1Y6 Quebec, Canada
Phone:
514-847-9009
Web:
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Lime many many others I have been the target from a harassment campaign waged by the infamous Centenial Marketing Group CMG of Montreal, Canada. They have called me more than 50 times, sometimes as much as 5 times in the same day to sell me insurance.

They are using an auto-dialer so most of the time there is no live person at the other end. They are beaking numerous CRTC regulations such as not removing your from their list upon request, using an auto-dialer after 8 pm, not identifying themselves, not providing them with their postal address, etc.

If you are receiving their phone calls as well (they have many numbers starting with 514-315-xxxx) there are a few places you can complain:

- On line complain to the CRTC (same as FCC in the US):

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/RapidsCCM/Register.asp?lang=E

- Cease and desist letter to the telemarketer by registered mail:

Richard De Sousa, director

Centennial Marketing Group CMG

1111 rue St. Urbain

Montreal Canada H2Z1Y6

514-847-9009 extn 224

[email protected]

[email protected]

- Complaint letter to their telephone company:

Rogers Call-Net RCI

333 Bloor Street E., 10th floor

Toronto Canada M4W1G9

Enough is enough!

Robert

Montreal, Quebec

Canada


10 Updates & Rebuttals

Trevor

Kanata,
Ontario,
Canada
Updated information on the company

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, February 04, 2008

The President and Owner of the company is Felix Gill ([email protected]). 514-847-9009. Extension 192. The guy who replaced Richard mentioned above is Denis Garneau ([email protected]). If you actually want to be removed from their callings lists, e-mail ([email protected]), it actually works and I don't think these guys want the headaches of calling people who don't want to be called.


Crtc Expert

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer

#3Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 04, 2008

Hi, I was doing some research and came across this site and read the posts on this site. I have no clue what occured between the company and the author but hopefully they were able to resolve things appropriately. It also appears that the individual who responded from the company has left and although there was talk of lawsuit, the individuals seem respectful to one another. I did however want to shed some light on the CRTC regulations as I am extremely familiar with them. There is a lot of confusion on the rules for telemarketing and I have posted the link to the CRTC rules: crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/T22.htm The biggest problem is that people often mistake the rules that apply to automated dialling and announcing devices (ADAD's) which is essentially a voice broadcasting system with the rules that apply to telemarketing. Most telemarketing companies use a predictive dialer (also often referred to as automated dialling) which dials numbers through a system and sends it to a live person. When a live person isn't there, the person who is being called gets hung up on which can be very frustrating especially when it happens multiple times! What most people don't know and which I find absolutely silly is that there are NO restrictions on times of day that telemarketers can call NOR is there a restriction on the number of times someone can be "hung up" on accidentally. In 2004, for a bried period, some new rules were introduced and then revoked. All of this info is clearly indicated on the CRTC website. Thankfully though, the CRTC recently announced that the Bell Canada has been chosen as the company to administer the Canadian Do Not Call list! The link is below: cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/21/tech-calling.html?ref=rss This means Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer. It has some exceptions to it which can be frustrating but as a whole, it should be a good thing for Canadians like it was in the U.S. a few years ago! Hope this info helps! Cheers.


Crtc Expert

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer

#4Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 04, 2008

Hi, I was doing some research and came across this site and read the posts on this site. I have no clue what occured between the company and the author but hopefully they were able to resolve things appropriately. It also appears that the individual who responded from the company has left and although there was talk of lawsuit, the individuals seem respectful to one another. I did however want to shed some light on the CRTC regulations as I am extremely familiar with them. There is a lot of confusion on the rules for telemarketing and I have posted the link to the CRTC rules: crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/T22.htm The biggest problem is that people often mistake the rules that apply to automated dialling and announcing devices (ADAD's) which is essentially a voice broadcasting system with the rules that apply to telemarketing. Most telemarketing companies use a predictive dialer (also often referred to as automated dialling) which dials numbers through a system and sends it to a live person. When a live person isn't there, the person who is being called gets hung up on which can be very frustrating especially when it happens multiple times! What most people don't know and which I find absolutely silly is that there are NO restrictions on times of day that telemarketers can call NOR is there a restriction on the number of times someone can be "hung up" on accidentally. In 2004, for a bried period, some new rules were introduced and then revoked. All of this info is clearly indicated on the CRTC website. Thankfully though, the CRTC recently announced that the Bell Canada has been chosen as the company to administer the Canadian Do Not Call list! The link is below: cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/21/tech-calling.html?ref=rss This means Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer. It has some exceptions to it which can be frustrating but as a whole, it should be a good thing for Canadians like it was in the U.S. a few years ago! Hope this info helps! Cheers.


Crtc Expert

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer

#5Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 04, 2008

Hi, I was doing some research and came across this site and read the posts on this site. I have no clue what occured between the company and the author but hopefully they were able to resolve things appropriately. It also appears that the individual who responded from the company has left and although there was talk of lawsuit, the individuals seem respectful to one another. I did however want to shed some light on the CRTC regulations as I am extremely familiar with them. There is a lot of confusion on the rules for telemarketing and I have posted the link to the CRTC rules: crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/T22.htm The biggest problem is that people often mistake the rules that apply to automated dialling and announcing devices (ADAD's) which is essentially a voice broadcasting system with the rules that apply to telemarketing. Most telemarketing companies use a predictive dialer (also often referred to as automated dialling) which dials numbers through a system and sends it to a live person. When a live person isn't there, the person who is being called gets hung up on which can be very frustrating especially when it happens multiple times! What most people don't know and which I find absolutely silly is that there are NO restrictions on times of day that telemarketers can call NOR is there a restriction on the number of times someone can be "hung up" on accidentally. In 2004, for a bried period, some new rules were introduced and then revoked. All of this info is clearly indicated on the CRTC website. Thankfully though, the CRTC recently announced that the Bell Canada has been chosen as the company to administer the Canadian Do Not Call list! The link is below: cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/21/tech-calling.html?ref=rss This means Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer. It has some exceptions to it which can be frustrating but as a whole, it should be a good thing for Canadians like it was in the U.S. a few years ago! Hope this info helps! Cheers.


Crtc Expert

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer

#6Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 04, 2008

Hi, I was doing some research and came across this site and read the posts on this site. I have no clue what occured between the company and the author but hopefully they were able to resolve things appropriately. It also appears that the individual who responded from the company has left and although there was talk of lawsuit, the individuals seem respectful to one another. I did however want to shed some light on the CRTC regulations as I am extremely familiar with them. There is a lot of confusion on the rules for telemarketing and I have posted the link to the CRTC rules: crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/T22.htm The biggest problem is that people often mistake the rules that apply to automated dialling and announcing devices (ADAD's) which is essentially a voice broadcasting system with the rules that apply to telemarketing. Most telemarketing companies use a predictive dialer (also often referred to as automated dialling) which dials numbers through a system and sends it to a live person. When a live person isn't there, the person who is being called gets hung up on which can be very frustrating especially when it happens multiple times! What most people don't know and which I find absolutely silly is that there are NO restrictions on times of day that telemarketers can call NOR is there a restriction on the number of times someone can be "hung up" on accidentally. In 2004, for a bried period, some new rules were introduced and then revoked. All of this info is clearly indicated on the CRTC website. Thankfully though, the CRTC recently announced that the Bell Canada has been chosen as the company to administer the Canadian Do Not Call list! The link is below: cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/21/tech-calling.html?ref=rss This means Canadians will finally have a national Do Not Call list by late summer. It has some exceptions to it which can be frustrating but as a whole, it should be a good thing for Canadians like it was in the U.S. a few years ago! Hope this info helps! Cheers.


Update

Montreal,
Quebec,
U.S.A.
Update on the information

#7UPDATE Employee

Wed, December 19, 2007

As an fyi, Mr. desousa no longer works for the company for several weeks now.


Robert

Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada
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#8Author of original report

Sun, October 14, 2007

Mr Desousa, you are either not aware of what is going on in your shop or you are lying. Either way it's bad. Your company is infamous for breaking Canadian law. Just google some of the phone numbers you use like 514-315-5004 or 514-315-5004, and you'll see tons of complaints. What we need to do is start a class action against you and your "company". You are harrassing me and thousands of people. I have no intention in being a sitting duck for abusive telemarketers and scammers.


Richard

Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada
Response to Robert's posting.

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, September 19, 2007

Hello, I was forwarded this report by a colleague and my name and company name is listed on the report. I wanted to clarify a few points. It is true that we have telemarketing operations calling on behalf of very large reputable clients. Our goal in calling clients is to call them the least amount of times possible to get a hold of them. Like any consumer, we understand there can be annoyance with phone calls. We do however limit our calls to 2 times per day maximum and in most circumstances, it is much less than that. In every call, the caller identifies themselves and the company they are calling on behalf of. Any client who wishes to be removed from calling lists is entitled to do so. We are measured by the success of people who are interested in the products, not by calling consumers who certainly don't want it. If anything, we are wasting our time and a consumer's time if we are calling them when they clearly have no interest. I personally apologize to Robert if our company called too frequently or if his experience was poor. That being said, I invite Robert to e-mail me his phone number and I will make sure it is on our Do Not Call list. I'm not suggesting Robert is biased but I have not gotten a letter from him nor an e-mail but yet he has taken the time to post this message along with including my name. I'm a big advocate of consumer rights but I also think that the company deserves a fair chance of resolving any situation prior to being posted as a "ripoff". Kind Regards, Richard De Sousa


Richard

Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada
Response to Robert's posting.

#10UPDATE Employee

Wed, September 19, 2007

Hello, I was forwarded this report by a colleague and my name and company name is listed on the report. I wanted to clarify a few points. It is true that we have telemarketing operations calling on behalf of very large reputable clients. Our goal in calling clients is to call them the least amount of times possible to get a hold of them. Like any consumer, we understand there can be annoyance with phone calls. We do however limit our calls to 2 times per day maximum and in most circumstances, it is much less than that. In every call, the caller identifies themselves and the company they are calling on behalf of. Any client who wishes to be removed from calling lists is entitled to do so. We are measured by the success of people who are interested in the products, not by calling consumers who certainly don't want it. If anything, we are wasting our time and a consumer's time if we are calling them when they clearly have no interest. I personally apologize to Robert if our company called too frequently or if his experience was poor. That being said, I invite Robert to e-mail me his phone number and I will make sure it is on our Do Not Call list. I'm not suggesting Robert is biased but I have not gotten a letter from him nor an e-mail but yet he has taken the time to post this message along with including my name. I'm a big advocate of consumer rights but I also think that the company deserves a fair chance of resolving any situation prior to being posted as a "ripoff". Kind Regards, Richard De Sousa


Richard

Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada
Response to Robert's posting.

#11UPDATE Employee

Wed, September 19, 2007

Hello, I was forwarded this report by a colleague and my name and company name is listed on the report. I wanted to clarify a few points. It is true that we have telemarketing operations calling on behalf of very large reputable clients. Our goal in calling clients is to call them the least amount of times possible to get a hold of them. Like any consumer, we understand there can be annoyance with phone calls. We do however limit our calls to 2 times per day maximum and in most circumstances, it is much less than that. In every call, the caller identifies themselves and the company they are calling on behalf of. Any client who wishes to be removed from calling lists is entitled to do so. We are measured by the success of people who are interested in the products, not by calling consumers who certainly don't want it. If anything, we are wasting our time and a consumer's time if we are calling them when they clearly have no interest. I personally apologize to Robert if our company called too frequently or if his experience was poor. That being said, I invite Robert to e-mail me his phone number and I will make sure it is on our Do Not Call list. I'm not suggesting Robert is biased but I have not gotten a letter from him nor an e-mail but yet he has taken the time to post this message along with including my name. I'm a big advocate of consumer rights but I also think that the company deserves a fair chance of resolving any situation prior to being posted as a "ripoff". Kind Regards, Richard De Sousa

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