- Report: #727441
Complaint Review: Chris A. Cheever - St. Charles Missouri
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drew -
Saint Louis, Missouri, United States of America
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Chris A. Cheever
1477 Gettysburg Ave. St. Charles, 63303 Missouri, United States of America
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Chris A. Cheever B & C AUTO Fraudulent vehicle sale St. Charles, Missouri
Foreword: I recently purchased a 2002 BMW 330Ci from Chris Cheever's son, Scott Cheever. I am making this complaint in relation to Chris Cheever, because it was his position as an auto salesman at B & C AUTO that made the fraud possible. To be fair, it was also my failure to have the car inspected by a mechanic before purchase. I am active military, looked at the car while home on leave, and had to finalize the purchase through relatives.
Situation: I was sold a vehicle under the pretense that it was 100% and had never been in any accidents. The Carfax and Autocheck reports reflected this. After the fact, it has become more and more obvious that the vehicle was crashed, not reported, and had the front end rebuilt. Cosmetically, it looks good, but the crash knocked a few seals out of place in the engine compartment, and it also damaged the front driver's side linkage which made the car unsafe to drive. A BMW mechanic certified this and would not allow me to leave the dealership without signing a release.
In addition to this, the front passenger wheel is the wrong size, and is no doubt a spare that was put on after the crash and left there, since it is hard to notice a difference between a 17x7.5 and 17x8.5 wheel if you're not looking for one.
Getting the wheels straightened out along with all other repairs is going to run about $3,000.
Bottom Line: Chris Cheever deals in auto sales, and his son, Scott Cheever, goes through cars fairly quickly as well. DO NOT BUY FROM THE CHEEVERS. They are dishonest and sold me a car that could have killed me. They may do the same to you.
Situation: I was sold a vehicle under the pretense that it was 100% and had never been in any accidents. The Carfax and Autocheck reports reflected this. After the fact, it has become more and more obvious that the vehicle was crashed, not reported, and had the front end rebuilt. Cosmetically, it looks good, but the crash knocked a few seals out of place in the engine compartment, and it also damaged the front driver's side linkage which made the car unsafe to drive. A BMW mechanic certified this and would not allow me to leave the dealership without signing a release.
In addition to this, the front passenger wheel is the wrong size, and is no doubt a spare that was put on after the crash and left there, since it is hard to notice a difference between a 17x7.5 and 17x8.5 wheel if you're not looking for one.
Getting the wheels straightened out along with all other repairs is going to run about $3,000.
Bottom Line: Chris Cheever deals in auto sales, and his son, Scott Cheever, goes through cars fairly quickly as well. DO NOT BUY FROM THE CHEEVERS. They are dishonest and sold me a car that could have killed me. They may do the same to you.
3 Updates & Rebuttals
chris
st. Charles,Missouri,
United States of America
Damage Followup
#2REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, December 26, 2011
Drew,
I am truly sorry for the time and money spent on your car. Without question neither my son or myself were ever aware of any of damages and repairs you state or could ever complete the detailed list of repairs to sell a car. My son purchased this car directly from a dealer and it was sold to him as is condition and sold to you in the same manner only having put a few 1,000 miles on it prior to you buying it. My son like you never had this car inspected by a 3rd party and was unaware of any of the issues listed even after selling it to you until reading this report.
drew
Saint Louis,Missouri,
United States of America
Additional Damage
#3Author of original report
Mon, December 26, 2011
I take full responsibility for not having the vehicle inspected beforehand, and I have already stated that, however, there are some defects that an inspection will not catch. One such defect is the deliberate milling of a flywheel, which was discovered by a trusted and certified mechanic at Annaptown Import Service in Edgewater, MD. The number of that Shop is 410-956-0849. If you were to call there, ask for Fred, and inquire about a 2002 BMW 330Ci with a milled flywheel which cooked a clutch, he will tell you that:
1.The flywheel was somehow damaged
2.It was then partially milled out, and then a disc was inserted so that the clutch would still grab the flywheel
3.This procedure will only work as long as the disc is intact, which he estimated would be about 5 months.
4. Once that disc disintegrated, it took the bad flywheel about a day to cook the clutch.
5. This procedure is so unorthodox that it took his shop an extra day to fix the car due to not being able to figure out why the flywheel wouldn't sync with a new clutch.
The clutch failed completely almost exactly 5 months from the date of sale. This leads me to the conclusion that the temporary repair was done exclusively to sell the car. Who is more likely to have the knowledge of, and ability to make that temporary flywheel repair? Would you bet on the 18 year old kid I bought it from, or the used BMW salesman who happens to be his father?
I put my money on the used BMW salesman, and knowing that such methods are employed by Mr. Cheever to sell a vehicle, I would not buy from him, nor any entity he is associated with.
chris
st. Charles,Missouri,
United States of America
B & C Auto Not Affiliated with BMW Sale
#4REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, December 25, 2011
First let me begin by stating that B & C auto had nothing to do with the sale of said complaint. This vehicle was bought and sold by my son under no false pretense of any knowing to himself or said purchaser. No Car Fax or Auto Check VIN# history should ever be accepted as gospel and only reflect history that has been reported to state agencies or insurance companies. Many vehicles are repaired without ever showing any history of these repairs. As Drew stated he should have as should everyone have any used vehicle inspected by a 3rd party just for the stated complaint prior to making a purchase. Buying a used vehicle no matter from an individual or a licensed dealer can be a very stressful decision and should never be taken lightly.
B & C Auto prides itself in selling quality BMW vehicles and have many satisfied clients to agree. After dealing with high pressure tactics and pushy dealership sales people customers have come to find us providing a hassle free pleasant buying experience that they recommend to other friends and relatives.
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