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Complaint Review: Creatine Marketing - Internet

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Anonymous - Sacramento, California, United States of America
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Creatine Marketing
3840 Rosin Court, Suite 130 95834 Internet, United States of America
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http://creatinemarketing.com
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Creatine Marketing claims to be one of the best marketing firms Sacramento has to offer.  On the surface, they offer web design and marketing services but internally they are a multilevel marketing scheme driven by their efforts in Visalus, Organo Gold, X-treme Biz, and Solavei. Flashback to 2010 a well-known and sizable company by the name of "US Loan Auditors" was brought to their knees when they were slapped with a $60 million lawsuit by the California Attorney General Jerry Brown, a class action lawsuit, and a lawsuit from Bank of America. The key players named in the lawsuit were Jeff Pulvino, Shane Barker, and James Sandison.

They claimed they could help troubled homeowners faced with foreclosure and the housing crisis, by going after the lending scam artists who provided them with bad loans. They claimed to be experts on predatory lending and preyed on desperate homeowners with little to no means of escaping foreclosure. 

The same individual gentlemen named in the lawsuit Jeff Pulvino, Shane Barker, and James Sandison started another social media marketing company named Creatine Marketing located in 3840 Rosin Ct, Sacramento, CA. Their company is driven by profits from multi level marketing scams that each of the owners participate in.

Shane Barker, now a former chief Marketing Officer of Creatine Marketing now runs his own marketing company, Modera. Jennifer Mount, former Executive Assistant at US Loan Auditors now works as a co-founder of Creatine Marketing. Daniel Fleetwood, former Vice President of Sales at US Loan Auditors, now also operates as a co-founder of Creatine Marketing.

Now why is this relevant? Let me reference former US Loan Auditors accountant, Paula Sontra's legal affidavit from back in October, 2010:

I was also told by Pulvino that he, Barker, and Sandison are planning to start several
new companies, and that they are planning to hide any association between these new companies and their individual names because of their "bad credit history," and especially Sandison's name because of the bar issues," by which I assume he meant the disciplinary charges for embezzlement and other misconduct that the State Bar recently filed against Sandison.

I was told by Pulvino they would like to form these new companies quickly and that
they will be Nevada corporations. I was also told that they would prefer to establish each one as a separate entity because if legal issues arise with one or more of them, the others could be kept going. Pulvino told me that they may obtain a separate office space for each company, preferably different suites in the same building.

Sure enough, flash forward to 2013, Jeff Pulvino is a co-founder of Creatine Marketing, without any public acknowledgment on the website's team page, and Shane Barker and Jeff Pulvino are publicly listed as reputation management "clients". The company's business license is a Nevada business license under the name of Next Level Ideas, Inc and listed under Daniel Fleetwood, former Vice President of Sales at US Loan Auditors. 

Creatine Marketing SocialCam Video

James Sandison, a now disbarred attorney, works in the "legal department" at Creatine Marketing. His name is also nowhere on the company's website. The company (as shown in the second video) are preparing to use two separate office spaces in the same building at 3840 Rosin Court. The man shown in the video Nicolas Fordham, runs MXSWeb.com and X-treme Biz, MXSWeb's affiliate marketing program.

Creatine Marketing is now housing members of Organo Gold, Visalus, and X-treme Biz, all affiliate marketing schemes with questionable business practices. Jeff Pulvino, Daniel Fleetwood, Robert Black, and Patrick A. Weller all operate parts of Organo Gold whilst working under Creatine Marketing. Interesting enough, Organo Gold had claims filed against them by the Federal Trade Commission for its false health claims. http://www.krgv.com/news/special-investigation-organo-gold-federal-investigations/ 

Creatine Marketing's domain name was set up in October 1st, 2010, around the same time the owners of US Loan Auditors were publicly handling their lawsuit and subsequent bankruptcy, so as Paula Sontra officially stated, Jeff Pulvino made the immediate move to establish Creatine Marketing after the downfall of US Loan Auditors:     

"Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: CREATINEMARKETING.COMCreated on: 01-Oct-10
Expires on: 01-Oct-13
Last Updated on: 15-Jan-13     Registrant:
Next Level Ideas"
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Rebuttal to Lying UC Davis Students

Sacramento,
California,
Lying UC Davis Students

#2REBUTTAL Individual responds

Thu, December 19, 2013

Response to: http://erfrkw.tumblr.com/post/51783744451/creatine-marketing-internship

I am shocked and appalled by this incessant, racist, libel and slander against my character. 
 
Why is it racist?!
 
“My real discomfort with the company began on the first week when the VP of sales (one of many), Patrick Weller, approached me with a proposition for ‘outreach into the education sector’.” - Eri Furukawa
 
“His pushiness really turned me off and I started fearing that I was being persuaded to sign up for a pyramid scheme.“ - Eri Furukawa
 
Organo Gold is in the Direct Selling industry.  Direct selling is the marketing and selling of products directly to consumers away from a fixed retail location. Organo Gold, like most direct selling associations around the world require their members to abide by a code of conduct towards a fair partnership both with customers and salesmen. 
 
According to the WFDSA, consumers benefit from direct selling because of the convenience and service it provides, including personal demonstration and explanation of products, home delivery, and generous satisfaction guarantees. 
 
Learn more…http://organo-gold-gourmet-coffee.com/
 
So we now know that I was not trying to persuade anyone into a pyramid scheme!
 
Regarding pushiness. She gave me her phone number!!! There was only a problem when she explained to her boyfriend that we were meeting to discuss a business opportunity.
 
If her real discomfort began WHEN I APPROACHED HER…THEN WHY DID SHE GIVE ME HER PHONE NUMBER AND AGREE TO MEET ME! WHY DID SHE TALK WITH ME PRIVATELY OUTSIDE?
 
Was there disappointment that I wasn’t interested in something else? And this is the reason for my involvement. Is this just some rant and there is no real basis to any of this?
 
If someone gives you their number. Confirms a meeting. And does not show up at the appointed time or even bother to call and cancel…that’s unprofessional in my book!
 
So, I’m not trying to recruit anyone into a pyramid scheme. I was given a number to make contact. The person is comfortable enough to meet me in private. A meeting was scheduled. So no discomfort there. And the only reason I can believed that I got involved in this farce is due to racism. And if it’s not racism then there must be some mental disabilities involved her that I am unaware of.
 
Furthermore, I only consulted with Creatine Marketing for six months. So why all of this slander and defamation of character against me?! Why am I the initial source of discomfort?! I can only believe it’s due to racism!
 
I was told that this is all due to a “love triangle” and her boyfriend is livid. 
 
I was told long ago that if a woman will cheat on you once that she will do it again. Never get mad at the men involved, just leave the disgusting, lying, cheating, and scum of the earth woman and find an honest, loving and faithful woman.
 
I am not saying this is the case here…I cannot confirm the “love triangle”. It’s just what I have been told and I discussed this with her boyfriend months ago the first time I asked him to remove my name and photo from this rant.
 
I have nothing to do with this nonsense. The college students and from what I have been told, ex-lover should sort out their nonsense privately and not include innocent people.
 
The truth of the matter is I have done a great deal for America as I have recently greened six cities. http://www.grover.org/archives/36/PR-CityofGroverBeachGoesGreen-04-06-10.pdf. I am not involved in a pyramid scheme. 
 
AND…I DON’T SLEEP WITH MY EMPLOYERS AND WHEN I GET CAUGHT BY MY LOVER CREATE AN ONLINE AND SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING CAMPAIGN TO COVER UP MY UNFAITHFULNESS AND DRAG THE NAMES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE INTO THE FARCE!!!
 
WARNING!!! WARNING!!! EMPLOYER BEWARE!!!

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Anonymous

Sacramento,
California,
Consumer BEWARE

#3Consumer Comment

Sun, July 07, 2013

Their last company, US Loan Auditors, should serve as a character reference of how they do business...consider this: 

Money was taken from clients based on an agreement of service to those clients to be serviced by “attorneys” (that would be assigned to them) in return for their monthly payments to defend against their "fraudulent mortgages" and that service was never given. The three heads of the company and their upper management at US Loan Auditors ignored clients repeated attempts to contact them by phone, without resolve.

The three heads of US Loan Auditors and their upper management knew exactly what they were doing and continued until they had to be stopped with a lawsuit from the Governor of California.

If this was the old West, everyone one of them would have been tarred, feathered and hung for their blatant disregard for people in distress that they too took advantage of.

What they did was nothing less than morally criminal; when people are down and out you don’t keep kicking them, that’s what they did by taking their money with nothing in return.

Regardless of what business any of them are in now, just knowing what they are capable of, I would NEVER do any business with any one of them in any way...I mean unless you like being in the company of people like that.

Their whole group remind me of a bunch of punks that are just looking for the next sucker they can get over on.

 


Anonymous

Sacramento,
California,
Mistaken Identities

#4General Comment

Fri, May 03, 2013

I believe the comments here are actually written by Robert's new lackey, Matt H. Cassell, formally of New Zealand and one of Creatine Marketing's many unlisted staff. You'll have to excuse his poor writing skills as he's only had the last 10 years or so to learn English, since in NZ they speak, oh wait... English. Really though, as much as I believe Jeff to be a con man, I believe that at least he's smart enough to form a cohorent, if not equally misrepresentative argument.

Matt, on the other hand, doesn't understand (as with many other things) that stealing millions of dollars earns many enemies and tends to blindly attribute anything possibly negative about his mentor, Mr. Black, to one of their ex employees. One would think though, blaming an employee is indicative. At best, it shows how shamefully this company handles its  employees, at worst, someone with inside knowledge of the company has seen what those of us who saw USLA tactics already knew. Jeff Pulvino and his croonies certainly know how to sell exaggerated services, as anyone who connects the dots in their history can see.


SoccerMom

Sacramento,
California,
Tell the truth part 2

#5General Comment

Thu, May 02, 2013

Jeff:  You are the one calling people idiots.  And why should anyone be bitter, you did admit to your wrong doings at USLA?  right?  Last time I checked, you were found guilty, the Feds shut down the company.  But you stayed in town and along with Fleetwood and Miss Mount and others started this new adventure.  Now jeff, are you the owner or a client or both? Because on the Creatine website you are listed as a client. 

Defining a scam: The State of California did.

#13?  No it's not.  Anyone can look it up. 

Please don't play the God card here, anyone that does most likely is just using it for show.  Is that why it's tweeted everytime you step inside a Church?  Image problem?  I would say so.  But you fooled us once, not again.  One would have to ask this man of God why he lined himself up with law breaking business men and women?  That the best robert can do?  is it all about making a dollar in life?  is that what the Christian life teaches?  One is Lower then a street dealer selling Organo Gold and it's not even in the top 25.  Amway is #1. (((link redacted))) I doubt the honest and God fearing Mr Black Jr mentions the ingrediants in the instant coffee very often.  How can Sodium Aluminum Silicate be good for you?  Why would anyone use that over drinking fresh brewed coffee and then if you want to add chemicals or a Mushroom, do it later.

Does the coffee have a warning label?  do you know the dangers of this Mushroom?  The company will be shut down!  Lawsuits are piling up. 

Like I said before:  the banks were not losing any money losing cases to us Loan auditors, where is the evidence you settled any cases? 


Software tech

You're an Idiot who still is bitter.

#6REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tue, April 30, 2013

The way you still try to link people to the company is ridiculous.

Defining a scam? do you know what a scam is?

Jim sandison and shane baker have no affiliation with Creatine Marketing. If Organo gold was junk why is it the most profitable MLM out there?

#13 in the world look at Topseo.com PLEASE.

Businesses who are in with it? stupid uneducated content writer please before you slander something you know nothing about. Do research. Robert Black is a Man of God and 7 children he works his a*s off. You are a jealous ex intern who was burned and still dating a broke scorned bf who claimed he was a company trying to get people to invest. HAHA grow up ERI.


SoccerMom

Sacramento,
California,
Then tell the truth

#7General Comment

Mon, April 29, 2013

the banks were NOT losing any money losing cases to US Loan Auditors.  (Jeff pumped out 100 lawsuits a week with the software he obtained) Where is the evidence to prove he did settle any cases?

Jim Sandison is  a part of Creatine Marketing.  x-treme biz an MLM.  And Robert Black runs it.  Another innocent connection. 

yes Robert Black is a member of Organo gold, a MLM company that sells junk product, instant coffee with a mushroom added.  Buy real coffee, take the mushroom on the side.  It's junk.  I have more respect for the street dealer.  They are more honest. 

"If it was a scam, would companies not be with them still after 2 years? doesn't make sense".   LOL  Now you are defining a scam.  Look at the clients, most of them are in with them. 

"If Creatine Marketing was a scam, why are 4-5 businesses working with them providing services that customers can't get at whole sale, but can with Creatine Marketing?" Once again defining what qualifies as a scam.  The bottom line is anything they touch is a scam. 

"#13 best in the world social media marketing company?"  who made that up?  Are you sure it's not the universe? 

Stop lying again Jeff.  You fool nobody. 


Anonymous

Research All The Facts First

#8Author of original report

Fri, April 26, 2013

Here is the link to Paula Sontra's declaration, there is no HOSTED public record but it is viewable and downloadable by searching Sacramento County Records: http://www1.datafilehost.com/d/11acfe59


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The Truth

#9REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, April 26, 2013

Jeff Pulvino created a company to exploit the loophole in the bank mortgage/ real estate system. Jerry Brown went after US Loan auditors and made it illegal exploiting the loophole. Jerry Brown received a huge pay out by banks to take down US loan auditors, because the banks were losing a lot of money losing cases to US Loan Auditors. (Jeff pumped out 100 lawsuits a week with the software he obtained) Where is the evidence to prove he didn't settle any cases? 

Jeff Pulvino's assets where stripped and taken and he was left with little money to his name. He didn't go to jail because he had people sign on the dotted line in regards to liability. (generalization) . 

NOW to the TRUTH. 

An ex intern, who left, tried to get other employees to convince them Creatine Marketing was a scam. Because of his past with US Loan auditors, The intern left saying she would never get hired because of Jeff, and suggested her other interns leave also. Well the other interns got paid for the internship and hired. She, feeling completely stupid started writing slander with her boyfriend to bring down Creatine Marketing. (bitter much?)

MORE TRUTH.

Jim Sandison is not a part of Creatine Marketing. He is, however, a part of x-treme biz an MLM. Being an MLM, there are no HQ's. X-treme biz is home based and does not work under the same roof as Creatine Marketing. 

Dan Fleetwood and Jennifer Mount were partners with Jeff Pulvino and have moved to creating Creatine Marketing. Because they succeeded in marketing and software of US Loan auditors and driving it to the top with marketing alone, they decided hey, lets start a marketing company since we crushed it in the real estate market. AND out came Creatine Marketing.  

Robert Black is a member of Organo gold and works on it separate from Creatine Marketing. Creatine Marketing is ranked #13 in the world for Social Media Marketing. If it was a scam, would companies not be with them still after 2 years? doesn't make sense. 

Paula Sontra's affidavit? is not found and there is no link to it, but searching only links to blogs written by this blogger. MXS hosting, A WEB PAGE DESIGNING company merged with Creatine Marketing to become a full service marketing agency. Now merged with another company too, Creatine Marketing is one service with 4-5 extensions of business at whole sale prices. SEO, PPC, Web design is all whole sale and is under many roofs. If Creatine Marketing was a scam, why are 4-5 businesses working with them providing services that customers can't get at whole sale, but can with Creatine Marketing?

#13 best in the world social media marketing company? can't do that as a scam. Organo gold not a scam either and yes several people are members and use Organo gold to create extra income in their pockets. Visalus is not mentioned anywhere in the office. No one is a member. 

The level of uneducated assumptions and make believe is what triggered me to write this. 

THE TRUTH


HERO

rialto,
California,
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Fri, April 19, 2013

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