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Complaint Review: CYDCOR AKA COM QUEST MARKETING AKA CARTERMORRIS INC AKA MARKETING ENDEAVORS AKA DS-MAX - White Plains NY, Indy, IN, Atlanta, GA Nationwide
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CYDCOR AKA COM QUEST MARKETING AKA CARTERMORRIS INC AKA MARKETING ENDEAVORS AKA DS-MAX
www.cydcor.com www.comquestmarketing.com www.cartermorrisinc.com www.marketingendeavors.com White Plains NY, Indy, IN, Atlanta, GA, Nationwide, U.S.A.
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CYDCOR AKA COM QUEST MARKETING AKA CARTERMORRIS INC AKA MARKETING ENDEAVORS AKA DS-MAX CHRIS AUWARTER, BRANDIE RUCKS, JOHN WIGGINS, MATT OSBOURNE, JONATHAN STEPHAN, RAF DIAZ, BRAD PARKS, AVIE ROTH- ALL GUILTY OF MISREPRESENTATION- SNEAKY DECEPTIVE COMPANIES, DOOR TO DOOR SALES PASSED OFF AS MARKETING RIPOFF White Plains New York, Indy, IN, Atlanta Georiga Nationwide
They're all bad. And unfortunately all VERY SIMILAR. Bastards.
I previously defended Cydcor, Com Quest Marketing, Northside Marketing, Marketing Endeavors and CarterMorris Inc all over the internet, before and after i quit, thinking back on it all now i just feel silly.
Looking back at it now i am beyond relieved that i quit and i look back at my time with Cydcor as a waste of time and energy, and there is still alot of amazing people working for them and its a shame because its a waste of talent as well. (You guys rock and i love you still and i wish you the best and hope you find what you're looking for without getting corrupted like our owners- i don't write this to bash you, you) are all hard workers and amazing people who i'll never forget- i give you credit for still plowing along through it all)
I learned some simple sales skills that you can learn from a book, and though i made my share of money it wasn't worth it as i even cheated my own relatives by switching them to a service i thought and was told by my management was cheaper and better for them. So i must have screwed over a large number of people that i previously thought i was helping.When i brought it to my manager he informed me that he had no idea why the bill was like that. Nice.
These people have no morals whatsoever and karma is a b***h.
To this day i still regret that i hadn't looked up Cydcor on the internet earlier and saved myself the trouble. I'm not going to lie, i made a lot of money, but it's just not worth it in the long run.
People may say "oh, you just couldn't cut it", i know, i said the same thing, but i DID cut it., i made a lot of money and i was very good at what i did, i was a leader and all that jazz, but i look back at it all with total shame.
I should have thought things were shady when they told me i would have to pay for my own gas to and from the field,
that i had no choice but to drive coworkers into the field and even home, that i should pay for my "day of o"s lunch, that saturday meetings were mandatory (although they were repeats of things we went over a million times), that we need to withold information about cydcor from our "new guys"...
and the best...
that we have to 'build break build" our new guys on our teams. I learned that when i became a leader and i look back on my leader breaking me and how i was in tears until he built me back up again.
I was also told "why the hell not, we should hire them cuz they're hot". My boss dated his staff. Regularly. And loved checking porn where we all could see in his office. Smooth. Like sandpaper buddy.
Girls were sexually harassed and nothing was done about it, the guy continues probably to this day to work there while 2 girls quit because of him.
A coworker was told he had to have visiting road trip people stay at his place because it "would be a good learning experience"- the people were at his house before he had the chance to say no.
We were told our friends stressed us out and they didn't understand and they'll be working at Papa Johns while we have our own office. I call bullshit on that. And one guy was even told his answering maching message on his personal cellphone wasn't professional enough and to change it.
Oh yes, and boots my coworker had been wearing for 3 weeks in the field were suddenly not professional enough after she claimed a coworker had made unwanted advanced to her. All of a sudden it was "would Brandie wear those boots? I dont think so". Ummm sure buddy- We aren't Brandie Rucks, if you hadn't noticed.
This mother of three that begam working with me thinking it was a legit marketing job ended up not getting a paycheck for 5 and a half weeks after being promised one after two, then got offered an advance of $100 just to get her by. Three kids on a hundred bucks for 3 weeks plus just does not work.
The topping on the cake was watching our dear Avie Roth rip into my coworkers telling them that they don't know their goals so maybe they should rethink their job and they dont know their team members well enough (after only knowing them for a week) and you've been here for 4 months and you're not in assistant management...why? Maybe you should rethink your career oppertunities. These poor kids who ate slept and breathed Cydcor looked like they would burst into tears. It was their Siddartha telling them they sucked. So sad.
Check out this website and you'll understand Cydcor and its little subsidiaries like Northside, CarterMorris, Pinnacle, Com-Quest (NY-Chris Auwarter, Jonathans promoting manager)Marketing Endeavors (GA- Brandie Rucks, Chris Auwarters promoting manager), etc...
http://wolfram.org/scam/cydcor.html
they are all the same, they just have different owners.
check out www.cydcoruniversity.com as well for proof that they all go by the same crap, or just notice the similarities between:
www.cartermorrisinc.com and
www.comquestmarketing.com and
www.marketingendeavors.com
.... its actually kind of amusing!
Or you can yahoo search for "DS-MAX the aftermath", that page is informative as well....
I'm just glad i can look back at it and laugh now, and i hope you all check this out it might save you the pain it caused me.
Anonymous ex-employee of over a year
Perhaps somewhere in Indiana or NY or GA....?, Georgia
U.S.A.
Click here to read other Rip Off Reports on ds-max, dsmax, ds/max, granton marketing, cydcor
I previously defended Cydcor, Com Quest Marketing, Northside Marketing, Marketing Endeavors and CarterMorris Inc all over the internet, before and after i quit, thinking back on it all now i just feel silly.
Looking back at it now i am beyond relieved that i quit and i look back at my time with Cydcor as a waste of time and energy, and there is still alot of amazing people working for them and its a shame because its a waste of talent as well. (You guys rock and i love you still and i wish you the best and hope you find what you're looking for without getting corrupted like our owners- i don't write this to bash you, you) are all hard workers and amazing people who i'll never forget- i give you credit for still plowing along through it all)
I learned some simple sales skills that you can learn from a book, and though i made my share of money it wasn't worth it as i even cheated my own relatives by switching them to a service i thought and was told by my management was cheaper and better for them. So i must have screwed over a large number of people that i previously thought i was helping.When i brought it to my manager he informed me that he had no idea why the bill was like that. Nice.
These people have no morals whatsoever and karma is a b***h.
To this day i still regret that i hadn't looked up Cydcor on the internet earlier and saved myself the trouble. I'm not going to lie, i made a lot of money, but it's just not worth it in the long run.
People may say "oh, you just couldn't cut it", i know, i said the same thing, but i DID cut it., i made a lot of money and i was very good at what i did, i was a leader and all that jazz, but i look back at it all with total shame.
I should have thought things were shady when they told me i would have to pay for my own gas to and from the field,
that i had no choice but to drive coworkers into the field and even home, that i should pay for my "day of o"s lunch, that saturday meetings were mandatory (although they were repeats of things we went over a million times), that we need to withold information about cydcor from our "new guys"...
and the best...
that we have to 'build break build" our new guys on our teams. I learned that when i became a leader and i look back on my leader breaking me and how i was in tears until he built me back up again.
I was also told "why the hell not, we should hire them cuz they're hot". My boss dated his staff. Regularly. And loved checking porn where we all could see in his office. Smooth. Like sandpaper buddy.
Girls were sexually harassed and nothing was done about it, the guy continues probably to this day to work there while 2 girls quit because of him.
A coworker was told he had to have visiting road trip people stay at his place because it "would be a good learning experience"- the people were at his house before he had the chance to say no.
We were told our friends stressed us out and they didn't understand and they'll be working at Papa Johns while we have our own office. I call bullshit on that. And one guy was even told his answering maching message on his personal cellphone wasn't professional enough and to change it.
Oh yes, and boots my coworker had been wearing for 3 weeks in the field were suddenly not professional enough after she claimed a coworker had made unwanted advanced to her. All of a sudden it was "would Brandie wear those boots? I dont think so". Ummm sure buddy- We aren't Brandie Rucks, if you hadn't noticed.
This mother of three that begam working with me thinking it was a legit marketing job ended up not getting a paycheck for 5 and a half weeks after being promised one after two, then got offered an advance of $100 just to get her by. Three kids on a hundred bucks for 3 weeks plus just does not work.
The topping on the cake was watching our dear Avie Roth rip into my coworkers telling them that they don't know their goals so maybe they should rethink their job and they dont know their team members well enough (after only knowing them for a week) and you've been here for 4 months and you're not in assistant management...why? Maybe you should rethink your career oppertunities. These poor kids who ate slept and breathed Cydcor looked like they would burst into tears. It was their Siddartha telling them they sucked. So sad.
Check out this website and you'll understand Cydcor and its little subsidiaries like Northside, CarterMorris, Pinnacle, Com-Quest (NY-Chris Auwarter, Jonathans promoting manager)Marketing Endeavors (GA- Brandie Rucks, Chris Auwarters promoting manager), etc...
http://wolfram.org/scam/cydcor.html
they are all the same, they just have different owners.
check out www.cydcoruniversity.com as well for proof that they all go by the same crap, or just notice the similarities between:
www.cartermorrisinc.com and
www.comquestmarketing.com and
www.marketingendeavors.com
.... its actually kind of amusing!
Or you can yahoo search for "DS-MAX the aftermath", that page is informative as well....
I'm just glad i can look back at it and laugh now, and i hope you all check this out it might save you the pain it caused me.
Anonymous ex-employee of over a year
Perhaps somewhere in Indiana or NY or GA....?, Georgia
U.S.A.
Click here to read other Rip Off Reports on ds-max, dsmax, ds/max, granton marketing, cydcor
1 Updates & Rebuttals
Allison Stanford
Dallas,Texas,
U.S.A.
Infinity Marketing Concepts - Dallas, Texas, I have come to the conclusion that I was extremely naive when working for this company
#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, July 02, 2004
I worked in the Dallas office entitled Infinity Marketing Concepts, Inc. for Cory Slipakoff. After reading all of the reports alleged against DS Max and Cydcor, I have come to the conclusion that I was extremely naive when working for this company for about 5 months. I realized when I resigned that I was being taken advantage of in terms of reimbursement and hours worked, but what I did not realize was how manipulative and demeaning the company was. After beginning work at Infinity, I was immediately encouraged to ask questions about the company, but when I did ask necessary, educated questions, I was given the exact same bullshit answers that they knew I wanted to hear. For example, when returning from a long day in the field, we were encouraged, as leaders, to be upbeat and positive (even when you spent more money than you made that day). When discussing our "real" thoughts toward our day with other leaders and assistant managers behind closed doors, we would tell stories about what made our day good or bad and how we could improve the following day. One night, I came back to the office with an amazing story, or so I thought, about a customer's sister's ex-husband's daughter who unexpectedly went into labor with triplets, and as a result, the customer had to leave in the middle of the 20 pages of paper signing. As this was a very unusual situation, you could see my surprise when I was interrupted by the assistant manager, only to hear that she had encountered "the exact same thing". Obviously, she was trying to identify with me so that I would continue to respect the company, as well as her, but this tactic became excessively used and was also encouraged in order to retain employees on your own sales crew. We WERE being brain washed!! I am not in the habit of lying, nor was I enthusiastic to represent such a company that did . . . or should I say does. I also did, in fact, work 12-14 hours everyday- and although I was never asked to work on Saturdays, if I worked less than 12 hours per day, I was looked down upon and it was hinted at that I might not have "what this company was looking for" in order to succeed. I put thousands of miles on my car, with no compensation for "wear and tear" or gas, and also had cell phone bills that encompassed well over 4000 minutes worth each month. If I complained about any aspect of the company, the pay, the benefits or the campaign, I was reprimanded for not having a "positive attitude" (which I am still absolutely sure does not exist in anyone 100% of the time- especially when you are doing door to door sales in the Texas weather). I also read about inappropriate activites from other reports on this website- or corrupt activities involving VPs and Managers. From what I saw, this is a valid claim that can be supported by what I saw with my own eyes. Cory made no attempt to disclose the fact that he dated within the office and the company, which I can only view as the utmost of unprofessional behavior. When the VPs came in town, they were just as out of control, making sexual advances towards women- both employees and strippers alike, all while experimenting with drugs and alcohol in front of employees of less than a week! APALLING! All in all, I did learn perseverance and sales skills, but only because you had to in order to survive. The benefits were overdraft fees in my checking account and a distant opportunity to advance in a shady company. I think if you are looking for sales experience in order to eventually move on to a "real" job, then this company would be a stepping stone, but as for myself, my college education did not bode well with their sales tactics and shady business practices . . . that are apparently happening across the country. Approach this business with open eyes and be prepared to work your a*s off for about $300/week.
