Complaint Review: Denver Job Seekers Beware - Magnum And Silver Sky International Are Not What They Say They Are - Denver Colorado

John, I hope you really are different. And I really am glad that you're doing well for your family. Your job postings are, however, shadowy versions of the truth. It may have worked out for you, but don't sell "the pipe dream promise" that you were manipulated by... your success doesn't justify doing that, as it seems you're implying. Dreaming big is great, but you have to be able to pay rent, eat, and live to get there. I don't think you can do those things if you're making $300/week - and you should worry about those things rather than having a boss sell you dreams about your life in 3 years. If you look around these and other boards, that very aspect of Cydcor operations is a major reason why it's so dangerous. A good leader should be able to sell a vision... and those naive to fall completely into it will stop worrying about bills, their credit, and outstanding tickets because they truly believe that they'll be millionaires in the not-so-distant future. And I have run into Cydcor in the past. Now I'm a few years into the candidate sourcing industry. After interviewing candidates here in Cherry Creek, I heard more than a few stories describing unmistakably Cydcor practices... bells, "atmosphere", manipulation... That led me to research names I heard and new Cydcor stories. They all have common, sickening themes, and easily manipulated new grads deserve to be aware.

To a point you're right about the manipulation I've seen in many other Cydcor offices which is maybe why my office doesn't do as well because I don't aggressively use those tactics as much as the other bigger guys mainly because I don't like using them. I feel like if people are working here they should be here because they want to. The 2nd interview is the ride along and that should explain itself. My guys tell everyone that this job is commission only. Plan on being in the field for at least a year working very hard door to door. Expect to make between $300-$500 a week until you're promoted (which are poor man's wages). If you do happen to get promoted to management that's where the good money comes in. So if we like the person and they want to work here I assume it's a good match and we move on. I don't like to tell them we only have 5 spots left, we'll call you if we need you, blah blah different fear of loss tactics. I know you probably got burned by Cydcor at some point but I have found my experience to be very rewarding, met some great people along the way, and currently run my company with some awesome folks and I learned tons. But my first year was extremely stressful making very little and my wife and kid almost leaving me but I'm glad I stuck with it! Maybe that's a manipulation story in iteself since I too fell into the pipe dream promise but I made it and I don't feel like that anymore since I have so much freedom to do what I want, when I want to. The only thing Cydcor tells me are things about the clients like Quill or AT&T. Otherwise I have that freedom I never had working the corporate job.

John, I'm really glad you replied, because it shows the type of b*&*& you throw at people as an "owner" and "president"... you are comparable to some guy that bought a franchise of McDonald's, uses its exact same recipes, follows the exact same corporate processes, yet gives his own franchise another name and claims to be its president. You "chose" the title of president? You admit your company is a Cydcor company except for with more integrity? Give us a f***&* break, John. You might be the best boss in the world and pay your employees a day early. I'm sure you're even a great guy, too. That's super, John. But the ethicality of the ways people are recruited into your operation are extremely questionable. Just think about the words used in the GoSilverSky website and in Silver Sky's Monster.com ads. Since you say you chose the title, don't you think "President" is a very misleading title choice? So are descriptions like "privately owned sales and marketing firm". Why don't you use the terms "Account Manager" and "Cydcor subsidiary" or even "franchise"? And maybe tell new grads what they'll really learn: how to manipulate using a sales technique... Jones Effect, Sense of Urgency, and a whole barrage of manipulative techniques are used on customers and candidates alike. That's what Cydcor is. But just like the McDonald's franchise owner, you're different? John, c'mon... give Denver a break. Quit fooling yourself. I don't know how happy your employees really are... judging by the constant search for new hires put out by Silver Sky (and Magnum) on Monster, Craigslist, CareerBuilder, etc, your attrition must be constant. Do "happy" employees turnover like that? No, but people who've been mislead DO. And there is a very disturbing difference between the complaints employees have about Cydcor, and those they have about Wells Fargo or Sears. I would also encourage people to make that comparison. Yes, people will b***h about unique circumstances and incompetence, but Cydcor complaints follow a pattern: stories about manipulation - and many other cult-like characteristics.

Hey I own Silver Sky International and I do own the company and have my legal paperwork to prove it. I was incorporated by Barbara Pizzo and when you incorporate you have to give yourself a title and give yourself that title through a lawyer which I have done so I'm not really sure why you feel the need to try to take my company down. Every company has bad press on it go to jobvent and type in Wells Fargo, Wal-mart, and Sears. I'm a smaller company and yes unfortunately things happen that don't go well but I try my best to make everyone happy so we can all work together as a team. All of my employees are happy and anyone who has left my business can have no complaints. I pay everyone on time and the correct amount and I run my business with integrity, unlike some of the other Cydcor offices out there. Don't knock me until you come work for me please.

I don't think I should have apologized to "business owners". If you're interested, neither Magnum or Silver Sky have , as they claim "presidents". Look at the documents titled Articles of Incorporation, and you will see that they are merely agents. The women they incorporate with, Pizzo and Otterman, have out of Colorado authority from eastern states where business laws are different... the point is that these companies are not startups, and the scamming liars that say they are... well, just look at the documents: search: Colorado Secretary of State in Google. Once in the Secretary's website, look these businesses up, an you'll see the title of Agent for those two guys claiming to be presidents a entrepreneurs.

Meriam DOES NOT own Magnum, Inc or Silver Sky Int sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityCriteriaExt.do;jsessionid=0000h-kYcdti6Ic6wnAGPSyz_xC:11nm17ad1?resetTransTyp=Y A CO Secretary of State website search provides documentation and licensure for Magnum and S.Sky's corporate status, each co-signed by some woman mystery investor (CydCor?). They are both in good standing and share the same address. Meriam Marketing shares the same address, yet is in poor standing. Also, the owner of the FL Meriam and CO one is the same. The document I got a hold of originally... it lists some kind of tax witholding ID and must not be so fresh. But it is still a bit strange. I apologize to the business owners (for that) and definitely deserve to eat my words.