Karin
Denver,#2Author of original report
Tue, January 08, 2008
***Not at all. I was naive I'm not lieing about that. I thought that you would make salary after they trained you. I know some jobs that get that way. Yes I did learn that you make 8-10 a piece but I still thought I was going to be compensated with salary on top of that because I was under the impression that's how it worked. I was told a couple of different ways I was going to be compensated and I thought it would all even out so please back off with these crazy accusations and assumptions I am just informing people of my bad experience there and that is it. This is not an independent office either. 'Well by then I had just decided to see where this would take me and I had a quick exit plan if this foiled. I just wanted to see how f*cked up this place was and just wanted to see how it all worked. I had another job lined up anyway that I could start' 'I only stuck around for a week. I really really just got curious. By day two I called the other job that was going to hire me and picked a start date. This is why I quit on top of my interview being lame' 'I was encouraged after following Matt around day after day seeing him make no money/his cars about to die/ tired/ exhausted/fake fake fake anyways I was encouraged to go on a road trip.' 'I am still marketing and make salary...and when I do go out of town my expenses are covered so that I can do my job without worrying about money.' these are all paragraphs by you. If you had another job lined up why would you start at this place to see what it was, that makes no sense. You say you called after day two but you were encouraged by watching Matt day after day make no money? And then you say that was on top of your interview being lame. Why did you start if your interview was so lame? I'm sorry, but you are not in marketing, making a salary, and having your roadtrips paid for if you do even travel at all. You are just embellishing everything that happened to make yourself look good. *** Yes and you have taken them all out of context to go against me and you dont even know me. Are you just bored? All I am doing is telling my story. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific with what I said, never knew someone had enough time to critique my whole story and bash me. I am not arrogant at all. I have read alot of these posts and people say that you shouldnt try these jobs at all if you do not have extra money saved up. I saved up extra money by working a lot. Dont want a metal for it jeez I was just stating that I was at a boring point in my life and had some time to do a lil experiment and see what this place was really all about AFTER I caught on that this place was a pyramid scheme. I started to see what the big deal was that's all. I had a friend that could have gotten me a job at a restaraunt until I got a better job...how is that arrogant? I was just being smart in case this place was what people warned me it was that's all. I was just nosy after all of the bad things that happened in my interview so what? I can't tell me story? Look, the place is a scam and you are just another puppet it scammed. There is no reason for you to try to make yourself seem like your'e on a high horse and better than the average person that has gone through the process. If you were as good as you say you are you never would have gotten involved with the company to begin with. Chances are you had a crush on the owner or Matt the guy that took you out, that you figured you would stay and see if anything would happen with them. When you found out they were just there for business you got upset and left. Your story has too many holes in it, try again when you have the story figured out. ***Also it seems that my human self MADE A TYPO MISTAKE and Matt did not encourage me and all I meant to say DISCOURAGE. No @sshole I did not have a crush on him. I have been married for 5 years now and would never mix work and pleasure stupid. I had no crush on anyone I was out of college and wanted to apply my marketing degree and when I realized this place was a scam I just wanted to see what kind of people take these jobs. I AM NOT better than anyone else at all. I am not bragging that I have a good job now and yes everything I said about my job is true. I went to school and earned my degree and wanted to find a great makreting job and I have had to work hard...so what I'm not bragging at all I was just stating that there are jobs out there that offer what people should be getting and that's piad compensation for their job just like the one I found so once again you are just trying to be rude for no reason at all. I am one of the people that graduated from college wanting a markerting job and got shown this company. If the story has holes in it then I'm sorry....ask me whatever you want. A lot of these stories have holes in them....we all want to tell our story and there is so much to tell that sometimes you leave out a few details I'm only human. Just so you know, I do not support these companies at all. I am totally against the practices of DS Max, Cydcor, Innovage, Smart Circle, Quantum, or any other affiliate of them. I do however also oppose people who leave posts about independent offices on ripoffreport without the proper pretenses ***That's great but going around bashing people that are just trying to get the word out makes you look like an @ss. I am not better than anyone else and I have never felt that before and you take my words out of context and that is just disturbing. So sorry that I had some downtime in my life and was able to check out a place that I THOUGHT at 1st was legit just to ride it out for a week and see how the operation works I just got curious. I am not trying to glorify anything in fact there are so many strories that I have read that are down right rediculous but hey people have their own interpretations. Back Off.
Karin
Denver,#3Author of original report
Tue, January 08, 2008
***Not at all. I was naive I'm not lieing about that. I thought that you would make salary after they trained you. I know some jobs that get that way. Yes I did learn that you make 8-10 a piece but I still thought I was going to be compensated with salary on top of that because I was under the impression that's how it worked. I was told a couple of different ways I was going to be compensated and I thought it would all even out so please back off with these crazy accusations and assumptions I am just informing people of my bad experience there and that is it. This is not an independent office either. 'Well by then I had just decided to see where this would take me and I had a quick exit plan if this foiled. I just wanted to see how f*cked up this place was and just wanted to see how it all worked. I had another job lined up anyway that I could start' 'I only stuck around for a week. I really really just got curious. By day two I called the other job that was going to hire me and picked a start date. This is why I quit on top of my interview being lame' 'I was encouraged after following Matt around day after day seeing him make no money/his cars about to die/ tired/ exhausted/fake fake fake anyways I was encouraged to go on a road trip.' 'I am still marketing and make salary...and when I do go out of town my expenses are covered so that I can do my job without worrying about money.' these are all paragraphs by you. If you had another job lined up why would you start at this place to see what it was, that makes no sense. You say you called after day two but you were encouraged by watching Matt day after day make no money? And then you say that was on top of your interview being lame. Why did you start if your interview was so lame? I'm sorry, but you are not in marketing, making a salary, and having your roadtrips paid for if you do even travel at all. You are just embellishing everything that happened to make yourself look good. *** Yes and you have taken them all out of context to go against me and you dont even know me. Are you just bored? All I am doing is telling my story. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific with what I said, never knew someone had enough time to critique my whole story and bash me. I am not arrogant at all. I have read alot of these posts and people say that you shouldnt try these jobs at all if you do not have extra money saved up. I saved up extra money by working a lot. Dont want a metal for it jeez I was just stating that I was at a boring point in my life and had some time to do a lil experiment and see what this place was really all about AFTER I caught on that this place was a pyramid scheme. I started to see what the big deal was that's all. I had a friend that could have gotten me a job at a restaraunt until I got a better job...how is that arrogant? I was just being smart in case this place was what people warned me it was that's all. I was just nosy after all of the bad things that happened in my interview so what? I can't tell me story? Look, the place is a scam and you are just another puppet it scammed. There is no reason for you to try to make yourself seem like your'e on a high horse and better than the average person that has gone through the process. If you were as good as you say you are you never would have gotten involved with the company to begin with. Chances are you had a crush on the owner or Matt the guy that took you out, that you figured you would stay and see if anything would happen with them. When you found out they were just there for business you got upset and left. Your story has too many holes in it, try again when you have the story figured out. ***Also it seems that my human self MADE A TYPO MISTAKE and Matt did not encourage me and all I meant to say DISCOURAGE. No @sshole I did not have a crush on him. I have been married for 5 years now and would never mix work and pleasure stupid. I had no crush on anyone I was out of college and wanted to apply my marketing degree and when I realized this place was a scam I just wanted to see what kind of people take these jobs. I AM NOT better than anyone else at all. I am not bragging that I have a good job now and yes everything I said about my job is true. I went to school and earned my degree and wanted to find a great makreting job and I have had to work hard...so what I'm not bragging at all I was just stating that there are jobs out there that offer what people should be getting and that's piad compensation for their job just like the one I found so once again you are just trying to be rude for no reason at all. I am one of the people that graduated from college wanting a markerting job and got shown this company. If the story has holes in it then I'm sorry....ask me whatever you want. A lot of these stories have holes in them....we all want to tell our story and there is so much to tell that sometimes you leave out a few details I'm only human. Just so you know, I do not support these companies at all. I am totally against the practices of DS Max, Cydcor, Innovage, Smart Circle, Quantum, or any other affiliate of them. I do however also oppose people who leave posts about independent offices on ripoffreport without the proper pretenses ***That's great but going around bashing people that are just trying to get the word out makes you look like an @ss. I am not better than anyone else and I have never felt that before and you take my words out of context and that is just disturbing. So sorry that I had some downtime in my life and was able to check out a place that I THOUGHT at 1st was legit just to ride it out for a week and see how the operation works I just got curious. I am not trying to glorify anything in fact there are so many strories that I have read that are down right rediculous but hey people have their own interpretations. Back Off.
Karin
Denver,#4Author of original report
Tue, January 08, 2008
***Not at all. I was naive I'm not lieing about that. I thought that you would make salary after they trained you. I know some jobs that get that way. Yes I did learn that you make 8-10 a piece but I still thought I was going to be compensated with salary on top of that because I was under the impression that's how it worked. I was told a couple of different ways I was going to be compensated and I thought it would all even out so please back off with these crazy accusations and assumptions I am just informing people of my bad experience there and that is it. This is not an independent office either. 'Well by then I had just decided to see where this would take me and I had a quick exit plan if this foiled. I just wanted to see how f*cked up this place was and just wanted to see how it all worked. I had another job lined up anyway that I could start' 'I only stuck around for a week. I really really just got curious. By day two I called the other job that was going to hire me and picked a start date. This is why I quit on top of my interview being lame' 'I was encouraged after following Matt around day after day seeing him make no money/his cars about to die/ tired/ exhausted/fake fake fake anyways I was encouraged to go on a road trip.' 'I am still marketing and make salary...and when I do go out of town my expenses are covered so that I can do my job without worrying about money.' these are all paragraphs by you. If you had another job lined up why would you start at this place to see what it was, that makes no sense. You say you called after day two but you were encouraged by watching Matt day after day make no money? And then you say that was on top of your interview being lame. Why did you start if your interview was so lame? I'm sorry, but you are not in marketing, making a salary, and having your roadtrips paid for if you do even travel at all. You are just embellishing everything that happened to make yourself look good. *** Yes and you have taken them all out of context to go against me and you dont even know me. Are you just bored? All I am doing is telling my story. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific with what I said, never knew someone had enough time to critique my whole story and bash me. I am not arrogant at all. I have read alot of these posts and people say that you shouldnt try these jobs at all if you do not have extra money saved up. I saved up extra money by working a lot. Dont want a metal for it jeez I was just stating that I was at a boring point in my life and had some time to do a lil experiment and see what this place was really all about AFTER I caught on that this place was a pyramid scheme. I started to see what the big deal was that's all. I had a friend that could have gotten me a job at a restaraunt until I got a better job...how is that arrogant? I was just being smart in case this place was what people warned me it was that's all. I was just nosy after all of the bad things that happened in my interview so what? I can't tell me story? Look, the place is a scam and you are just another puppet it scammed. There is no reason for you to try to make yourself seem like your'e on a high horse and better than the average person that has gone through the process. If you were as good as you say you are you never would have gotten involved with the company to begin with. Chances are you had a crush on the owner or Matt the guy that took you out, that you figured you would stay and see if anything would happen with them. When you found out they were just there for business you got upset and left. Your story has too many holes in it, try again when you have the story figured out. ***Also it seems that my human self MADE A TYPO MISTAKE and Matt did not encourage me and all I meant to say DISCOURAGE. No @sshole I did not have a crush on him. I have been married for 5 years now and would never mix work and pleasure stupid. I had no crush on anyone I was out of college and wanted to apply my marketing degree and when I realized this place was a scam I just wanted to see what kind of people take these jobs. I AM NOT better than anyone else at all. I am not bragging that I have a good job now and yes everything I said about my job is true. I went to school and earned my degree and wanted to find a great makreting job and I have had to work hard...so what I'm not bragging at all I was just stating that there are jobs out there that offer what people should be getting and that's piad compensation for their job just like the one I found so once again you are just trying to be rude for no reason at all. I am one of the people that graduated from college wanting a markerting job and got shown this company. If the story has holes in it then I'm sorry....ask me whatever you want. A lot of these stories have holes in them....we all want to tell our story and there is so much to tell that sometimes you leave out a few details I'm only human. Just so you know, I do not support these companies at all. I am totally against the practices of DS Max, Cydcor, Innovage, Smart Circle, Quantum, or any other affiliate of them. I do however also oppose people who leave posts about independent offices on ripoffreport without the proper pretenses ***That's great but going around bashing people that are just trying to get the word out makes you look like an @ss. I am not better than anyone else and I have never felt that before and you take my words out of context and that is just disturbing. So sorry that I had some downtime in my life and was able to check out a place that I THOUGHT at 1st was legit just to ride it out for a week and see how the operation works I just got curious. I am not trying to glorify anything in fact there are so many strories that I have read that are down right rediculous but hey people have their own interpretations. Back Off.
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Milwaukee,#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, December 23, 2007
"I learned that we get 8-10 bucks a piece that we sell. So we try to get people to buy a $50 card right now and I get 8 bucks. No base pay/salary even though the website posting said base 30,000-35,000. Liars." "While lunch is going on he tells me ill be making about 200-400 a week and after a few months up to 600-800 a week. Sounded nice to me though I didnt know how it was possible for him to make that much when we get rejected all morning. "I FINALLY learned on DAY ONE after im hired that this is a 100% commission only job. When hired I was told by Matt that I was going to make about 10 bucks and hour starting and id make more as I gained experience LIARS LIARS LIARS." you wrote all three of these paragraphs in your post. You stated in the first two that the man explained to you how much you made per piece while you were in the field, then you stated you didn't know it was commission til your first day working. Why is that? Are you just being a liar to make them sound worse? "Well by then I had just decided to see where this would take me and I had a quick exit plan if this foiled. I just wanted to see how f*cked up this place was and just wanted to see how it all worked. I had another job lined up anyway that I could start" "I only stuck around for a week. I really really just got curious. By day two I called the other job that was going to hire me and picked a start date. This is why I quit on top of my interview being lame" "I was encouraged after following Matt around day after day seeing him make no money/his cars about to die/ tired/ exhausted/fake fake fake anyways I was encouraged to go on a road trip." "I am still marketing and make salary...and when I do go out of town my expenses are covered so that I can do my job without worrying about money." these are all paragraphs by you. If you had another job lined up why would you start at this place to see what it was, that makes no sense. You say you called after day two but you were encouraged by watching Matt day after day make no money? And then you say that was on top of your interview being lame. Why did you start if your interview was so lame? I'm sorry, but you are not in marketing, making a salary, and having your roadtrips paid for if you do even travel at all. You are just embellishing everything that happened to make yourself look good. Look, the place is a scam and you are just another puppet it scammed. There is no reason for you to try to make yourself seem like your'e on a high horse and better than the average person that has gone through the process. If you were as good as you say you are you never would have gotten involved with the company to begin with. Chances are you had a crush on the owner or Matt the guy that took you out, that you figured you would stay and see if anything would happen with them. When you found out they were just there for business you got upset and left. Your story has too many holes in it, try again when you have the story figured out. Just so you know, I do not support these companies at all. I am totally against the practices of DS Max, Cydcor, Innovage, Smart Circle, Quantum, or any other affiliate of them. I do however also oppose people who leave posts about independent offices on ripoffreport without the proper pretenses