Paul
USA#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, March 15, 2011
Brian was my trainer. To keep it short and simple, Brian ain't lie'n. Everything he said is true and also happened to me in CA and TX.
I will post my personal story later. Or if anyone wishes to contact me By email@ (((ROR redacted)))
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Brian
Phoenix,#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, June 08, 2003
I am so glad to have read your report because you are exactly right. Ds-max is a scam. I had worked for Ds-max for the last 4 and a half years. Going through the field I had my car repoed, credit distroyed, lived with 15 people in a 2 bedroom apartment, (because nobody made money) and lost the only girl I ever loved for this so called oppurtunity called Ds-max. Throughout my time with Ds-max I had trained and promoted 5 Asst.Managers which 3 became owners, I was given President Awards / Top Ownership awards/ jewlery/ and loads of recognition for my achievements, but all along I never made the money I was so lured into in the begining. Ds-max is a promoting business, but there is a difference between promoting and flat out lieing to people. I would motivate people to work hard knowing they had no chance of ever making it in this business, but this is how the business works, so I would do what so many other managers do I would stroke their egos, Just like Larry Tienbalm said, "We are not in the sales business, we are in the business of building egos". Yeah but to what extent. I just couldn't stand misleading people anymore, Other owners would call me complaining they were not making money, and I would always tell them " don't worry you will", knowing all along I hadn't seen a dime. These people were my friends but I just gave them the standard answer," don't worry, all you got to do is keep working you'll catch your wave," BULLSHIT. The only wave you catch is the wave of brainwashed crap they tell you to keep motivating yourself. The final straw for me was looking at how much money I had paid into Granton Marketing (Ds-max) and looking at what I had to show for it. Over the last 2 and a half years I had paid in over $800,000.00 to Granton Marketing, but yet I have nothing. This Business Is A SCAM. When you really think about it, all you are is a glorified retail manager, sure you own your business, sure you don't have a boss, sure you make a $100,000.00 a year, BULLSHIT 1. You dont own any business, If it was a real business you could sell it, unfortunatly you can't. The reason you are incorporated is to seperate you from Ds-max, If something goes wrong you are responsible for it. 2. You dont have a boss, If you didn't have a boss you could do whatever you wanted, you could take a vacation, or something like that, but you cant because they can shut you down, with no product what business are you the boss of. 3. You make a $100,000.00 a year, is that gross or net ? Well let me tell you with all the expenses of running business, I don't know more than five owners who have made close to that. Don't get me wrong there are some owners that I know who have made money, But the mass majority do not. So to conclude my rant, thank you for telling it how it is, this business is a scam!!! If anyone is contemplating Ds-max as a vehicle for finacial independance, you should continue looking. To the people who still work there, I give you all the respect in the world, The reason I do,is because you probably do not realize what you are doing to people or what really awaits you as you progress within the business. Take it from me, If you enjoy what you are doing leave on a positive note and take that experience and move on.
Brian
Phoenix,#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, June 08, 2003
I am so glad to have read your report because you are exactly right. Ds-max is a scam. I had worked for Ds-max for the last 4 and a half years. Going through the field I had my car repoed, credit distroyed, lived with 15 people in a 2 bedroom apartment, (because nobody made money) and lost the only girl I ever loved for this so called oppurtunity called Ds-max. Throughout my time with Ds-max I had trained and promoted 5 Asst.Managers which 3 became owners, I was given President Awards / Top Ownership awards/ jewlery/ and loads of recognition for my achievements, but all along I never made the money I was so lured into in the begining. Ds-max is a promoting business, but there is a difference between promoting and flat out lieing to people. I would motivate people to work hard knowing they had no chance of ever making it in this business, but this is how the business works, so I would do what so many other managers do I would stroke their egos, Just like Larry Tienbalm said, "We are not in the sales business, we are in the business of building egos". Yeah but to what extent. I just couldn't stand misleading people anymore, Other owners would call me complaining they were not making money, and I would always tell them " don't worry you will", knowing all along I hadn't seen a dime. These people were my friends but I just gave them the standard answer," don't worry, all you got to do is keep working you'll catch your wave," BULLSHIT. The only wave you catch is the wave of brainwashed crap they tell you to keep motivating yourself. The final straw for me was looking at how much money I had paid into Granton Marketing (Ds-max) and looking at what I had to show for it. Over the last 2 and a half years I had paid in over $800,000.00 to Granton Marketing, but yet I have nothing. This Business Is A SCAM. When you really think about it, all you are is a glorified retail manager, sure you own your business, sure you don't have a boss, sure you make a $100,000.00 a year, BULLSHIT 1. You dont own any business, If it was a real business you could sell it, unfortunatly you can't. The reason you are incorporated is to seperate you from Ds-max, If something goes wrong you are responsible for it. 2. You dont have a boss, If you didn't have a boss you could do whatever you wanted, you could take a vacation, or something like that, but you cant because they can shut you down, with no product what business are you the boss of. 3. You make a $100,000.00 a year, is that gross or net ? Well let me tell you with all the expenses of running business, I don't know more than five owners who have made close to that. Don't get me wrong there are some owners that I know who have made money, But the mass majority do not. So to conclude my rant, thank you for telling it how it is, this business is a scam!!! If anyone is contemplating Ds-max as a vehicle for finacial independance, you should continue looking. To the people who still work there, I give you all the respect in the world, The reason I do,is because you probably do not realize what you are doing to people or what really awaits you as you progress within the business. Take it from me, If you enjoy what you are doing leave on a positive note and take that experience and move on.
Brian
Phoenix,#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, June 08, 2003
I am so glad to have read your report because you are exactly right. Ds-max is a scam. I had worked for Ds-max for the last 4 and a half years. Going through the field I had my car repoed, credit distroyed, lived with 15 people in a 2 bedroom apartment, (because nobody made money) and lost the only girl I ever loved for this so called oppurtunity called Ds-max. Throughout my time with Ds-max I had trained and promoted 5 Asst.Managers which 3 became owners, I was given President Awards / Top Ownership awards/ jewlery/ and loads of recognition for my achievements, but all along I never made the money I was so lured into in the begining. Ds-max is a promoting business, but there is a difference between promoting and flat out lieing to people. I would motivate people to work hard knowing they had no chance of ever making it in this business, but this is how the business works, so I would do what so many other managers do I would stroke their egos, Just like Larry Tienbalm said, "We are not in the sales business, we are in the business of building egos". Yeah but to what extent. I just couldn't stand misleading people anymore, Other owners would call me complaining they were not making money, and I would always tell them " don't worry you will", knowing all along I hadn't seen a dime. These people were my friends but I just gave them the standard answer," don't worry, all you got to do is keep working you'll catch your wave," BULLSHIT. The only wave you catch is the wave of brainwashed crap they tell you to keep motivating yourself. The final straw for me was looking at how much money I had paid into Granton Marketing (Ds-max) and looking at what I had to show for it. Over the last 2 and a half years I had paid in over $800,000.00 to Granton Marketing, but yet I have nothing. This Business Is A SCAM. When you really think about it, all you are is a glorified retail manager, sure you own your business, sure you don't have a boss, sure you make a $100,000.00 a year, BULLSHIT 1. You dont own any business, If it was a real business you could sell it, unfortunatly you can't. The reason you are incorporated is to seperate you from Ds-max, If something goes wrong you are responsible for it. 2. You dont have a boss, If you didn't have a boss you could do whatever you wanted, you could take a vacation, or something like that, but you cant because they can shut you down, with no product what business are you the boss of. 3. You make a $100,000.00 a year, is that gross or net ? Well let me tell you with all the expenses of running business, I don't know more than five owners who have made close to that. Don't get me wrong there are some owners that I know who have made money, But the mass majority do not. So to conclude my rant, thank you for telling it how it is, this business is a scam!!! If anyone is contemplating Ds-max as a vehicle for finacial independance, you should continue looking. To the people who still work there, I give you all the respect in the world, The reason I do,is because you probably do not realize what you are doing to people or what really awaits you as you progress within the business. Take it from me, If you enjoy what you are doing leave on a positive note and take that experience and move on.
Brian
Phoenix,#6UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, June 08, 2003
I am so glad to have read your report because you are exactly right. Ds-max is a scam. I had worked for Ds-max for the last 4 and a half years. Going through the field I had my car repoed, credit distroyed, lived with 15 people in a 2 bedroom apartment, (because nobody made money) and lost the only girl I ever loved for this so called oppurtunity called Ds-max. Throughout my time with Ds-max I had trained and promoted 5 Asst.Managers which 3 became owners, I was given President Awards / Top Ownership awards/ jewlery/ and loads of recognition for my achievements, but all along I never made the money I was so lured into in the begining. Ds-max is a promoting business, but there is a difference between promoting and flat out lieing to people. I would motivate people to work hard knowing they had no chance of ever making it in this business, but this is how the business works, so I would do what so many other managers do I would stroke their egos, Just like Larry Tienbalm said, "We are not in the sales business, we are in the business of building egos". Yeah but to what extent. I just couldn't stand misleading people anymore, Other owners would call me complaining they were not making money, and I would always tell them " don't worry you will", knowing all along I hadn't seen a dime. These people were my friends but I just gave them the standard answer," don't worry, all you got to do is keep working you'll catch your wave," BULLSHIT. The only wave you catch is the wave of brainwashed crap they tell you to keep motivating yourself. The final straw for me was looking at how much money I had paid into Granton Marketing (Ds-max) and looking at what I had to show for it. Over the last 2 and a half years I had paid in over $800,000.00 to Granton Marketing, but yet I have nothing. This Business Is A SCAM. When you really think about it, all you are is a glorified retail manager, sure you own your business, sure you don't have a boss, sure you make a $100,000.00 a year, BULLSHIT 1. You dont own any business, If it was a real business you could sell it, unfortunatly you can't. The reason you are incorporated is to seperate you from Ds-max, If something goes wrong you are responsible for it. 2. You dont have a boss, If you didn't have a boss you could do whatever you wanted, you could take a vacation, or something like that, but you cant because they can shut you down, with no product what business are you the boss of. 3. You make a $100,000.00 a year, is that gross or net ? Well let me tell you with all the expenses of running business, I don't know more than five owners who have made close to that. Don't get me wrong there are some owners that I know who have made money, But the mass majority do not. So to conclude my rant, thank you for telling it how it is, this business is a scam!!! If anyone is contemplating Ds-max as a vehicle for finacial independance, you should continue looking. To the people who still work there, I give you all the respect in the world, The reason I do,is because you probably do not realize what you are doing to people or what really awaits you as you progress within the business. Take it from me, If you enjoy what you are doing leave on a positive note and take that experience and move on.