Todd
Pomona,#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, October 10, 2004
El Penitas, How could you want to go back? Do you think that the owner you worked for is the only guy that holds leaders back from promotion or fires guys on a whim like that? Now that you are out, take a look at the rest of the reports on the ror. Look up the msn user chat group dsmax the aftermath. Time after time people are being lied to and mislead and harrassed. You got caught up in the hype. You got mislead. You did your part to mislead people to. But now you are out the the madness. Use this time to let your thoughts direct you and not the innovage hype. Why should innovage programming direct every aspect of your life? Do you really want to mislead people again like yo did before?
El
Penitas,#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, October 07, 2004
I started to work with ds max now innovage straight out of highschool. It was just a temporary job at first , but when i started to see people getting their deals as they called it. That got me excited it took me 3 months to become a leader and start training my crew most people would have quit by then , but not me I was determind to be one of those selected few who made it. I came in on time everyday I dressed sharp I made sure i rang brass atleast 3 time out of a week. Everything was going smooth until about 6 months in the business Dave my manager was holding 2 of my guys from becoming leaders I confronted him about the issue. He claimed that they weren't strong enough to become leaders so I said I'll make them stronger and I did but still nothing I lost both of them. I later trained 3 more people to my crew. All of them were knocking on leadership and me on assistant manager. Then one morning after we left the office me and some of the guys stop to have breakfast as we did every morning Dave shows up talking bullshit cause we had stop I mean come he didn't pays by the hour. He told us to go turn in our stuff when we did he fired all of us . That was some mest up s**t . I really believed I was gonna make. Later I heard that the next day he ran an impact about us he feared to us being fired as throwning out the trash. Out all the things I did thats all he could say about me. Well that my piece of the story I hope to relocate to another innovage affiliate to show Dave I dont need his bullshit to get my deal. If you ever see him tell him i said f him and DMC!
Blair
London,#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, June 22, 2003
On one hand, its easy for me to say my experience with DS-MAX was one of the best experiences, and on the other the worst. The office pollitics are a joke. The door to door is very phsycally and mentally draining. The way you can learn to use the 8 and 5's at the door or just genarally in life is an amazing education. This job may not be for everyone (it wasn't for me), but it was a great education that school could never teach me. I don't know your situation, but keep an open mind, try it, and if it's not for you, you come out of it with a totally different perspective of life. I worked in Vancouver B.C. under Adam. S. @ One Six Enterprises.
Jim
Pittsburgh,#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, February 13, 2003
Here are a couple of facts: Fact: you are a door-to-door salesmen Fact: repeating things over and over does not make them happen. No matter how many times you claim to own a company under DS-Max you never will. What you do is rent a commercial space, place ads, and hire people all to do what DS-Max wants you to. They select the location, the name, and various other aspects. You get suckered into spending your own money to make them money. If you fail they lose nothing. If you fail they don't give a d**n. THEY DO NOT PAY YOU A FLAT ANNUAL SALARY. You are their b***h. Fact: Wanting you to succeed is a catch-22 for them, they are watching their backs and making moves to protect themselves. Do you really think they want to set up their own competition (They are independent after all, right?)? At the same time they want to make the money that they make off you. Your success and acheivement is not the only determining factor, your manager's own agenda carries much more weight. Fact: It IS more like a cult than anything else (except a cult, of course). The military, other jobs, etc. have nothing on DS-Max when it comes to cult status. Fact: Most DS-Max employees realize at some point that they must spend more than they make. That their "Net worth" is actually negative. Fact: The truth is discouraged at DS-Max. If you have a bad day and make no money you still have to say your day was "great." If you say otherwise they will pull you aside and chastize you. I saw a girl cry once and she was pulled aside. When she returned she was wearing a smile so manufactured she would have put a flight attendant to shame. Fact: The company sucks. It is a scam. If you interview, ask questions and don't settle for redirections, or questions used as a response, only people who have something to hide do that.
Bob
Ottawa,#6UPDATE Employee
Thu, February 06, 2003
I am currently a employee of ds-max and i think that it is a great for people that have the will to stick with and go all the way. Yes the company does have a great turn over rate due to the fact that the job is tough and not set for everyone. The office that i work out of has great owners and who are very successful and make tons of money. I have met great people and many vice presidents and very successful owners DS-MAX is awsome if your tough enough for the job!