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  • Report:  #276189

Complaint Review: First Convenience Bank And Or 1st Bank Texas - Kileen Texas

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- Balch Springs, Texas,
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First Convenience Bank And Or 1st Bank Texas
P O BOX 937 Kileen, 76540 Texas, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-9037490
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I had my account with them for two years. I'm one of those customers that can keep really good book keeping. In the two years I've been with them I might have had one or two overdraft. One was an error on me and the other with the bank. One was refund as a courtesy I guess that their way of not admitting that we were wrong.

I always heard people that I knew with an account there with the bank having some type of problem with overdraft or things not being explained the way they should. Always leaving gaps of information that the customer needed to know. I just at that point hadnt ran into any problems until now.

Now please keep this in mind. I know not every bank have the same practices but I am a former employee of a pretty big bank and I know some of the tricks. I guess that's why I keep such good records on what I'm doing.

Well I had an aunt that needed to be added to my account. I explained to the young lady that worked at the bank that my aunt wouldnt be on the account for long. She said okay you and her come into the bank when you're ready to have her removed off the account. That was fair. I then allowed about three months to go by and my aunt and I felt it was time to have her taken off since she had a new account of her own.

Now here goes the trouble. I went into the bank with my aunt id's in hand and this is what we were told. You would have to close this account out Ms.Stevens in order to have her name removed. I explained what the rep for their bank had explained to me and my aunt. She stated that the information that was given was incorrect. I told her that I had that account since coming to their bank. I had direct deposit and automatic draft that were taking out and that could cost me alot more then what it was worth and your rep explain this is what I needed to do. I was told I apology that you were told that. And your aunt been added on as an agent then you could have came in and removed her with no problem.

Now I'm looking like how dear you tell me what I could have done when at the time that's what I thought your agent was doing with the information she explained. And how is that my fault. I was so mad but a week later I went back in closed my account and opened another.

Now remind you I had to pay for another master card debit card, new checks, and call everyone that had a draft coming out that account. Now on to the new account.

I happen to be on ebay one morning on a Tuesday at 2:00am. I knew I had a direct deposit that was due at that time as well being available to spend. Around 2:30 am I tried to pay for the item and it was rejected. Now I've tried 3x's in all and here's where it gets fishy. I was thinking I put something in wrong but when three attempts fell. I checked the account and the balance was showing the direct deposit. So I called the bank again at 7am to check and still nothing. Now please remember this is the bank that charge you if you check you bank more than 20 times in a month and they also charge you to speak with their reps.

So at 10am I notice now my money is in the account so I pay for the item. To find out the next day I had been charged 3x of $2.00 charges. $6.00 in total still alot to me and too much to just be giving away.

I went into the bank and spoke with a rep and she told me it from useing the master card debit and it rejecting it because the funds were not available. I asked her okay then please explain to me what time does direct deposit hit an account? She said at midnight. I asked if she could see the transaction that was rejected she would see that was attempted at 2:30am being 2 and a half hours later still to be rejected by your system. Also the money didnt show as posting until around 10 am. She asked was I sure. I told her yes, If you would look at the dates alone it shows it was attempted the same day of my deposit.She stated that she didnt know why it did that but she would refund the 3 charges.

On September 21st I had a child support check that would be deposited into the account. It wouldnt be available until Tuesday morning of the following week with the deposit hit after 2pm on Friday. So with me knowing this and any check that I write it would have that covered. I had a check that came in on Monday and it made the account neg. Instead of when the check actually posting and then seeing if there was a direct deposit or any deposit that could have been posted before 2pm which is the time there deposit to the post acct that night. They placed a charge of $66.00 on my acct asap. Not allowing the close of the business day before that overdraft posted. which doesnt make sense. Anything that's pending to an account cant be charged overdraft until the close of business which allows the customer to make a deposit before 2pm. Which technically was done by the oag office that's how the money was available to me the morning of September 25.

I was transferred over three times I waited for over an hour to speak to somone. I even recorded some of the conversation with supervisor or customer service reps. Even in the conversation you can tell they are just making up things to say. Not really clear on nothing there saying.

How it is that the customer is to pay for a bad banking system? How is it that we have to pay for what a rep stated to us? This rep is the tell us what they have been trained to do which is to inform us of the correct information and bank procedures. This bank is not doing that. They have targeted the poor and misinforming us and then making us believe one thing all to have us pay for it later.

You can contact the Comptroller of the Currency and explain your sitaution with this bank. Get a case number and go from there. Please dont give up with a fight. I will try everything I can to get this taking care and to have something done. Not just for me but the grandmother I read about on here or the mother who stated the bank receives more of her child support payments then her kids. I will be contacting the attorney general of texas as well.

Lala

Balch Springs, Texas

U.S.A.



5 Updates & Rebuttals

Exemployee18

Addison,
Texas,
U.S.A.
about the closing

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, October 18, 2007

If the account has been opened for less than 6 months there is a 25 dollar charge to close the account but that can be waived by the branch manager. Please keep this in mind when dealing with any bank. The manager can override fees but you also must keep in mind that banks are a bsuiness too so when your account is over drawn they must weigh the circumstances surrounding the issue and do what they feel is right. In you case with your experience I would probably say i apologize that our relationship didnt work out and see what we could put in place as products to remedy the situation if you no longer wanted to bank with me I would gladly close your account to prevent negative word of mouth. The 25 dollar charge should have been given to you when you opened the account in the Truth in Savings disclosure which they are legally required to give you. i hope this helps.


Lala

Balch Springs,
Texas,
U.S.A.
update

#3Author of original report

Mon, October 15, 2007

To the former manager that replied to the story. Thanks alot with the explaining.You're so right about them not having training. You can tell that when they explain things at different times and they all come with something new to tell you. I did get credited over $200 which I felt that should have ate the whole amount. I received a letter from the Sr. Vice President of the bank in which I cant get in touch with. I had a supervisor tell me that once I brung the account to a zero balance that I could close the account out with no problem. However when I paid the fee I than told that I needed to pay them $25.00 to close the account out.. Now how in the hell do I owe you to close an account out that I no longer want nor need? Now remind you I no longer have direct deposit so now there's going to be fee's added to that every month since the acct is at a zero balance. Now this company is trying there best to keep making money. But why like this? Every dog has it's day. I thank you for being willing to tell the truth and I respect you from moving from the bank for the right reason's. I wish you the best and God Bless You and every one with this company that's having a problem.


Exemployee18

Addison,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Former Manager Speaking the Truth

#4UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, October 11, 2007

First let me say I have no ill will about working with the company nor do I hold anyone that works with the company at fault. I worked with the company for nearly three years and the one thing and I have to clarify is this.....THE BANK AND THE COLLECTION AGENCY THAT CONTACTS YOU WHEN YOUR ACCOUNT GOES NEGATIVE ARE OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE! This is very important to understand because all those fees you all have received and how the bank processes their transactions are legally provided to you in a federally regulated disclosure very single one of you should have received. This is known as the Truth in Savings act. You also should have received somethiing called the Funds Availability Policy which is known by Federal regulations as Reg CC. Here is the catch First Convenience Bank puts tons of pressure on their managers and tellers to generate an ungodly amount of accounts monthly. Customer Service is second and I do not care what anyone there tells you it is. So when they open the accounts they try to do it very quickly and get you in and out without explaining the accounts and the regulations to you. Most of the time they do not even give you the federal regulation brochures which is a legal requirement! Now I am a manager with another bank that puts customer service first and I am taking a huge chance and putting myself in jeopardy telling you all this, but not once when I was working there did I mislead anyone of my customers with how things were done. The training at that bank is sub-par so many of the employees have no and i mean no prior banking experience which means they cannot assist you in an appropriate manner which is by no fault of their own. Ok now about the fees you have been seeing. Here is how FCB does it to clarify. Just like most banks there are two different balances on your accounts. There is the Available balance. This balance is up to the minute. It takes into every transaction you have done up to that second. The catch is that if you pay for gas at the pump, or rent a car, or get a hotel room there will be a large amount holding out of this balance usually for 72 hours. This still counts against items coming through every business days night. Now items are processed there sometimes between midnight and six AM not right at Midnight! Now there is the ledger balance which reflects items that the bank has already paid to the merchants and their banks have collected. Here is the most important thing of al....... FCB charges your NSF and OD fees based on the items paying against you available not your ledger balance. This allows the bank to double charge you for the items that are pending. For example: You have $100 in your account in your available balance. - You buy gas for $40 on Monday - You buy dinner for $40 on Tuesday (the gas amount is still against you available but has not hit your ledger yet do not forget) - Then on wednesday you buy a toy for $21 dollars Now a normal bank you would be charged one OD fee for the toy. (100-40-40=20) (20-21= ($-1)) plus OD fee. At this bank you get charged for every item that posts to your ledger based on what you available balance was at the time which was ($-1). This is confusing and it is very hard for most of the tellers and managers to explain which is why there are so many conflictiing stories. Let me tell you this I left this company not because I did not respect the people that worked there but because ethically it is just not right. If you all have any questions regarding the policies and practices of this bank please feel free to submit something and I will do the best I can to help you all out. I hope this answered most of your questions.


Lala

Balch Springs,
Texas,
U.S.A.
You're so Right

#5Author of original report

Fri, September 28, 2007

For the comsumer that stated that I should have opened an acct with a REPUTABLE Bank. The bank still has yet to contact me concerning my issue with them but I have gotten a call at my job in concerns with the overdraft. I did open a new acct with Chase will see how it goes.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
YOU SHOULD HAVE OPENED AN ACCOUNT WITH A REPUTABLE BANK

#6Consumer Comment

Fri, September 28, 2007

You need to stick to the well known banks, ie: Wells Fargo, Chase,. Stay away from Compass, 1sT Convenience and also Bank of America. I have been told by numerous people that these banks are all total RIP OFF'S

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