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  • Report:  #58471

Complaint Review: Honda Of America Manufacturing Inc. - East Liberty Ohio

Reported By:
- Russells Point, ohio,
Submitted:
Updated:

Honda Of America Manufacturing Inc.
11000 S.R. 347 East Liberty, 43319 Ohio, U.S.A.
Phone:
937-6427333
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Honda. Maker of one of the finest running cars in the world. High quality product. Great price. Good looking. Accord, Passport, Acura, Eliment, Civic, wagon, Shadow, Four Wheelers, Mowers, you name it WE the workers, build it. We build it right, giving you the consumer 100% Quality!

How? It starts as flat sheets of metal, stamped into car parts, welded, painted and sent to the Assembly department. This is where the car is built into a drivable machine. They come down the line, Bumper to Bumper like New your grid lock, every 50 seconds you have an ungodly amount of parts to put on and run to the next. 500 brand new Cars are driven off the end off the line, during every 8 hour shift.

Sounds pretty cool Huh? In fact it is a real treat to watch this system run.

Problem is, this type of work is very hard on your body. Very hard.

Ya we make $25.00 an hour, great benefits, free uniforms, Two 8 minute breaks and a modest 1/2 hour lunch.

If your lucky like me and hundres and hundres of others like me you even get time off for your hard work.

I have had 5 surgeries in 8 years. Three on my hands & two on my rt shoulder and the Herniated and or buldging discs in my neck which will require surgery also.

For my shoulder injury, I have been off two long years////

I could have been back alot sooner but Honda is self insured workers comp system CMI who denies, loses, hides, lies, postpones, extends, every treatment my and others, highly qualified Doctors recommend.

I could go on forever, but to make an already long story short. Many workers for the fear of not getting paid, or receiving treatment, and the constant harrassment just simply return to work and are working injured.

Great job Huh?

Mike

Russells Point, Ohio
U.S.A.


48 Updates & Rebuttals

Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Board Of Directors Meeting BWC

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, March 09, 2009

My Opinion and facts Friday March 20 2009 at 8am in room 3 level 2 of the William Green Building located at 30 W.Spring St. Columbus Ohio Chairman Bill Lhota also SI directors the guy that is to make sure the Self-insured company's follow the laws.I for one will be asking why he lets the company's like Honda take your meds all the time over and over again.Its like a Torture game they play.Please try to be there so when the room that this meeting is at gets full of injured workers asking why they are treated like they are they can tell us. Also they are trying to get somethings changed and we need to be there for the Injured Workers of Ohio.There will be people there for the SI company's trying to get more things in that are in favor of them and for them.Who will be there for the injured workers if we don't show up. I will tell you NO ONE!! There is NO ONE for the injured workers of Ohio at self-insured company to turn to for help.Its the injured workers themselfs taking on these muti-million dollar company's who can torture there injured workers to the point of ALMOSTBROKEN.com We can make a change if we work together for it is TIME FOR A CHANGE OHIO!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Injured Workers At Self-Insured Company's Awareness Rally

#3UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, January 23, 2009

http://www.almostbroken.com/steve_film.html Check the show out.This is happening all across America!! The injured workers of America do not have a chance for the deck is loaded. Here is a link for all injured workers to go to and sign! This may be our only chance at being heard.So come on America lets take America back for the working people that where injured at work! Please sign this Petition! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/iw234nhn/


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Injured workers at self-insured company's awareness rally

#4UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, January 14, 2009

My Opinion and facts.Self-insured company's injured workers of Ohio will be holding a rally at 1 South Limestone St.Springfield Ohio. This will be held on the day after Presidents Day Feb17 09. All injured workers of self-insured companys are needed at this rally to tell there story's of the unconstitutional and unlawful laws that they have to deal with when injured at a self-insured company. This will show the people of Ohio and America that the BWC & IC of Ohio and other states laws that are in place for the self-insured company's are unlawful and unconstitutional and in more faver of the company's and not the injured workers of Ohio and other states. Please bring your signs for the rally and your story on paper so when news center 7(who has an office at this building that the IC & BWC is at) does a story on our rally, we will have all the information they need to prove our points on these unconstitutional laws that are in place at BWC & IC of Ohio and other states. I will have a list of the rules that are in place that the self-insured company's have at the BWC & IC that are unconstitutional to the injured workers of Ohio and other states.If you wish to do the same that will be fine the more the better for I may have missed something that you didn't!! I feel this rally will be the only way we the injured workers of Ohio and America will be heard.I hope that President Obama see's our rally and does what he said for it is Time For A Change!! Also if these company's where to have to pay for the injury's the workers got at work instead of them being forced into SSD,SS would not be in the shape it is today!! As it is today the tax payer are paying for the injured workers not the self-insured company's that injured the workers!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Corp.Torture

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, November 18, 2008

My Opinion, We have been fighting back too for 12 years .We too have been fired while on med leave Per doc. orders yet where fired anyway. Our Lawyer said the same thing it is a fine line. Yet nothing is done on this .We too have went to Gov.Stricklands Office and complained about this unfair and unconstitional law the self -insured company's have. How can a injured worker who is injured at work then fired while on medical leave and has no money to fight the Muti-million dollar company, have a fair chance with the laws as they are. All the company has to do is fight you on everything you try to get done on your case. Then like us we had to file bankruptcy and watch as we start losing everything we have. We too are being taken to common pleas court to get a IC ruling overturned because Honda didn't like the IC ruling on our case that we won at the IC hearing.( Honda appealed all the way through the hearing and lost) So they are taking us to court. Once again how is it possible to win with the laws clearly in favor of the self-insured company's This is clearly a Corp. Torture game they are playing with there injured workers and Honda is not the only corp. self-insured company doing this its like they have a play book on how to torture there injured worker to the point they give up and live with there pain and injury they got at work. I find it strange that a pet or animal that you have in your care that is not taken care of has more rights then Humans do. If you don't take care of your injured pet you can be put in jail, yet when Honda doesn't take care of there injured worker they don't go to jail why is this going on in America? We work like animals we are treated like animals yet we haven't the same rights as animals do. For all injured worker who have been through this Corp. Torture game here is something to check into that they don't want you to know. You can file a claim on your case if you are treated like us it is called Dysthyic Disorder (Stress disorder) for the stress and torture they put you thought. This was just told to us this year and is helping alot.They will fight you all the way but keep fighting it will help you! For the injured workers that are having trouble getting their employers to pay for their medication, the Injured Workers Pharmacy,LLC 9 Branch St,Lower Level, Methuen, Ma 01844. Phone 1-888-321-7945 Fax 1-800-497-4276 is now paying for my medication with no more Hassle. Your Attorney can set you up with them and then you call them for follow up info, then you give your Doctor IWP info then your meds is Delivered to your door a few days before you need a refill. We hope this helps and your family does not have to go throught this corp.torture like we did! Change Is Coming I hope for we need it!


Fighting Back

Huntsville,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
How can we win? This is not even close to a fair fight...still, I am Fighting back

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, March 19, 2008

I have read thru many of the posts on Honda. It is the same story over and over. Honda is well known for the way they treat( & don't treat ) injuries. Why isn't that the news in the paper? All I see is "pro-Honda". Don't even get me started on this OSHA-Honda Allience! If you have worked at Honda you know the truth. I spent 12 years as an employee. I trained more temps than I can believe. I have seen so many coworkers get injured and panic. Fear of retaliation is thick. The politics of Ohio seem based on keeping Honda happy and here rather than keeping Ohioans happy and here. I live at Indian Lake and see many Honda employees...current and ex employees. We all have similiar stories about thinking Honda was going to be a good job with good benefits and hope to work there for many years....maybe to retirement. I wonder how many of us actually make it out still able to function for ourselves? How many of us end up with permanent disabilities? How many of us have been labled as slackers and humiliated because we have or had restrictions? How many of us think the money we made was worth it? Yes, it is good pay for a monkey...and there are many no brainer jobs...but what about safety? Can you put a price on being able to use your right arm? How much is your left arm worth? How much is it worth to be able to hold a baby? From what I have heard, Honda can put a price on body parts and it is about $7,000 before lawyer fees. I have been encouraged by one of my doctors to write and call Gov Strickland about this. He tells me that he knows Strickland's office is getting lots of calls from injured employees needing help. Another doctor tells me that he believes only the squeakiest wheels get heard in the Workers Comp system. My doctors know Honda's game well, they see it plenty. How do we get the word out? How can we get the truth to spread all over Ohio communities? I am afraid the only way to get a change for us is to win the Public Relations war....so our elected officials will be forced to know what Ohioans expect of them. We expect them not to sell us out. What is the price for that?


John

Louisville,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
Well, American's basically asked for this sort of treatment....

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, January 08, 2008

American's have been consistently voting in anti-labor, pro-corporate governments since 1980 and now we have reaped the consequences. Patriotism, values. saving the family from the "gays," it's all bait & switch bs. All these positions are just tricks to get poor and middle class people to vote against their economic interests and boy did it it work. (Don't for forget that Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA. so the Democrats are only marginally better.) Don't like that corporations are treating employees like sh*t? Well give off your asses and take the government back from the crony-capitalist interests that control it. or is this too difficult from being numbed out by cable tv, the latest Britney Spears scandal. or perhaps it's best to keep voting corporate Republicans in to save the nation from the "gays?"


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
WOW, this sounds just like Tropicana! Tropicana Manufacturing, Bradenton, Florida

#8Consumer Comment

Tue, January 08, 2008

Wow, I really feel for these Honda workers. I know exactly what they are going through, as this is a spitting image of the mentality at Tropicana. I was "pulled off the job" at Tropicana without cause, or proper documentation just because I made a written request for "reasonable accomodation" under the ADA. Kep in mind that I was fully able and willing to perform my job, and the only thing affected was forced overtime as it interfered with my scheduled mediacl appointments that had to be done in a sequence. Twice per week for 10 weeks with a 1 hour duration each. A plant with 1200 employees claimed undue hardship! They claimed that accomodating me would severely impact production, and my request was denied. HOWEVER, the HUSBAND of the HR Director at Tropicana who is a convicted felon still on felony probation until 2009 and a registered sexual predator, was given time every Wednesday for approx 1 year to see his probation officer! And, he was on 2nd/3rd shift and could have done this without interfering with his shift! Total fraud and corruption. I guess it matters who you are married to! The rules do not apply evenly to everyone, that is for sure. My case is now set for binding arbitration, and a USDOL and EEOC charge is still active, and pending. Tropicana Products / Tropicana Manufacturing , Bradenton, FL. engages in discriminatory hiring practices and acts of retaliation and fabrication of testimony and documents. They refuse to be held accountable by anyone. You hold them accountable even 1 time and you are marked for termination. Read my other posts here on ROR to get the dirt, and see the comparison to Honda. It appears that tropicana and Honda train their HR people at the same school of lies and corruption!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Corp.Torture

#9UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, January 07, 2008

My Opinion,Your employer is a self-insuring employer under the workers' compensation program. Self-insuring employers pay workers compensation benefits directly to their injured workers. Your Motion (C86) filed with BWC on 03/17/2003 has been referred to your employer for a response. By copy of this letter, this application is being referred to the self-insured employer. UNDER THE LAW, your employer makes all initial decisions on any claim requests. The employer has 30 days to notify you of a decision in your claim. How can you get a fair chance with a law like this!So call or write Gov.Strickland and tell him we need a change in this Unconstitutional Law!! He will get back with you as he has us.He needs to see we are not the only people that are getting this unconstitutional treatment from this Corp.Torture game they play with the injured worker that got injured at their company then fired them after they got injured!!!! So for all you injured workers at self-insured companys be ready for the fight of your life!! Do you think they are going to give you anything without a fight, get real 11 years and there are still fighting us all the way.The fox watching the hen house.Who made this law up??? How can a injured worker with no money now that they are injured and not able to work and make money, take on your company that you worked for who has all the money they need to dragg your case out until you lose everything you have.Been through 2 Bankrupcys in the last 11 years on our case and have lost my husbands towing company ,know we even have less money to fight with. IC just got us a new injury on claim went though IC hearings but company fight all the way though IC hearings ! We won case so Honda is know taking us to common pleas court to get IC ruling overturned. And every one wonders why everyone is leaving Ohio could it be that they know they dont have a chance if injured at work in Ohio at a self-insured company!!!! After the IC hearings, Honda on there own has taken all meds away again just after IC just told them to give meds back!! So we are back to Honda's Corp.Torture Game thanks to the Laws for the self-insured companys that allows this injustice and Torture to continue.Ask your canadate for President about this and see what they say ,then you will know where they are coming from on this unconstitutional law that is clearly in favor of the self-insured companys not the injuryed workers!!!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Thanks to Gov.Ted Strickland

#10UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, March 29, 2007

I would like to thank our new Gov. Strickland for checking into the workings of the Ohio BWC for the Ohio injured worker!As my opinions in my earlyer posts I felt there was something wrong with the way our claim was handled.After reading in the paper about the Lack of oversight, management blamed for scandal, in the Bellefontaine Examiner 3/27/07. I was glad to see that the Auditer Mary Taylors statements where she checked the Ohio Bureau of Worker Compensation out.Mrs. Taylors office also found during the routine review of operations for 2005 and 2006 that some key financial documents had been destroyed. To me this backs my opinions of what was going on at the BWC and the handling of our claim.Thanks again Gov.Ted Strickland for checking into this for the injured workers of Ohio,and keep up the good work!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Union at Honda

#11UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sat, March 03, 2007

Thanks to the Democrats of the House of Representative for the passing of Bill HR 800 this bill paves the way for the injured workers to get help from a union on there fight when injured at Honda against Honda.As it was the injured worker had no help when they got injured and the injured worker by themself had to take on the company when injured.How can one injured worker take on Honda they can not.And in my opinion there is no help from any state office for witch the Gov. was given big campaine money from Honda to take care of Honda!!With the union to help the injured worker they may have a chance at there fight for there rights against Honda!!Workers where told if a union came into Honda they would shut down the plant and pull out.With this bill as a law they will have a hard time doing so!Thanks again to the Democrats for the passing of this Bill HR 800!!It will not help the 6,000 injured worker before the HR 800 but to know that no other injured worker has to go thought what we have over the last Ten years means alot!!!Thanks Again HR 800


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
And the stories keep coming

#12Author of original report

Fri, February 16, 2007

I started this Honds forum, I have been forced to resign due to on the job injuries. I was given the option of being fired, after I was injured, or resign and receive a year worth of medical benefits. I was with out choice as I have a family, and a family needs insurance. I am now "perminently disabeled" and am receiving Social Security Disability Benefits. Does not really pay the bills, not by a long shot. I am far from being done with this half *&*& company. I know alot of inside info, ways they cheat, a long list of injured and then fired "workers" My work here will never be done. Stay strong To all who have been bitten by the Honda Snake.


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Labor Secretary Elaine Chao no help

#13UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, February 02, 2007

Your message To: Contact - WB Subject: Attn.Labor Secretary Elaine L.Chao. injurd worker's need your Help. Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:05:48 -0500 was deleted without being read on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:41:12 -0500 again no help my opinion just another person we tryed to get help from which is there job but they deleted our letter without even reading it.I guess when they read injured worker's needs help that was all they need to see and deleted our letter!!We where asked why didnt you guys go to the Labor Dept.we did and this is what we got!!If I would have titled it Honda needs your help they wouldn't have deleted the message!!!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Labor Secretary Elaine Chao no help

#14UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, February 02, 2007

Your message To: Contact - WB Subject: Attn.Labor Secretary Elaine L.Chao. injurd worker's need your Help. Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:05:48 -0500 was deleted without being read on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:41:12 -0500 again no help my opinion just another person we tryed to get help from which is there job but they deleted our letter without even reading it.I guess when they read injured worker's needs help that was all they need to see and deleted our letter!!We where asked why didnt you guys go to the Labor Dept.we did and this is what we got!!If I would have titled it Honda needs your help they wouldn't have deleted the message!!!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Labor Secretary Elaine Chao no help

#15UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, February 02, 2007

Your message To: Contact - WB Subject: Attn.Labor Secretary Elaine L.Chao. injurd worker's need your Help. Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:05:48 -0500 was deleted without being read on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:41:12 -0500 again no help my opinion just another person we tryed to get help from which is there job but they deleted our letter without even reading it.I guess when they read injured worker's needs help that was all they need to see and deleted our letter!!We where asked why didnt you guys go to the Labor Dept.we did and this is what we got!!If I would have titled it Honda needs your help they wouldn't have deleted the message!!!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Labor Secretary Elaine Chao no help

#16UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, February 02, 2007

Your message To: Contact - WB Subject: Attn.Labor Secretary Elaine L.Chao. injurd worker's need your Help. Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:05:48 -0500 was deleted without being read on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:41:12 -0500 again no help my opinion just another person we tryed to get help from which is there job but they deleted our letter without even reading it.I guess when they read injured worker's needs help that was all they need to see and deleted our letter!!We where asked why didnt you guys go to the Labor Dept.we did and this is what we got!!If I would have titled it Honda needs your help they wouldn't have deleted the message!!!!


Jerry

DE GRAFF,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Labor Secretary Elaine Chao

#17UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, February 01, 2007

Good morning Madam Secretary. My name is Chuck Beverlin. I am an autoworker on the engine assembly line at Honda of America in Marysville Ohio. At our four Ohio plants we produce the best selling full size passenger car, best selling luxury car, and the best selling small car in America. The Marysville Auto Plant at which I have worked for over ten years produces in excess of 440,000 units a year. This plant's maximum production capacity was thought to be 300,000 autos just a few years ago. The workers at Honda that have made these achievements possible are not sharing in the corporation's prosperity, but instead suffering a mass epidemic of repetitive motion injuries caused by the poor ergonomic design of our work processes. Bureau of Labor, and OSHA statistics indicate that Honda's Marysville Auto Plant may be the most unsafe auto plant in the U.S. These statistics are not just numbers, they are my friends. They are mothers who can't lift their children because of carpel tunnel syndrome. They are workers who can't raise their arm high enough to pick food from the grocery shelf because of a torn rotator cuff. I know a worker who can't hold a toothbrush for more than a few seconds because the pain is so bad. One thing these workers have in common is the fear of losing their job because of their injury, which is a frequent occurrence at Honda. Madam Secretary, some companies just don't care about their workers. Honda fights every lost time and disability claim that is filed. Honda led a 1997 Ohio ballot issue that would have eliminated carpel tunnel syndrome as a recognized workplace injury. Honda's record clearly proves that the company willingly violates OSHA regulations, including the General Duty Clause. Madam Secretary, you have indicated that you favor a policy of voluntary compliance. I think it is safe to say that Honda favors this approach too, because they know that without enforcement, they are off the hook when it comes to worker safety. Chuck Beverlin, an assembly line worker at the Marysville Auto Plant, met on February 26 with US Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao and John Henshaw the Director of OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration). Chuck was one of only four workers from across the nation who participated in the face-toface meeting with Chao and Henshaw. The meeting occurred at a gathering of the AFL-CIO Executive Council in New Orleans. Chuck was given short notice and flew south for twenty-four hours of working meetings, research and preparation, press conferences, and the discussion with the two members of the Bush Administration. Honda workers are forming a union. I am one of 900 volunteer organizers. We know that union autoworkers suffer fewer injuries than Honda workers. We know that contractually binding ergonomic standards will improve the health and job security of Honda workers. Our organizing efforts have achieved great success. Thousands of Honda workers now understand how a democratic workplace can improve their family's lives. But the struggle continues, as the company has put its 22-year union busting campaign into full gear. Workers are told they will lose benefits if they vote for the union. Stamping press operators have been told they will be bumped off of their jobs under a union contract. Workers are asked by management if they are ?for or against? the union. Honda is poised to hire hundreds of workers that have submitted to credit checks during their application process. I feel that Honda plans to hire workers in financial jeopardy so that they can be scared into voting ?no? for the union with threats of layoffs and strikes. Madam Secretary, we will form a union at Honda, but ALL workers deserve fair treatment. I urge you to enforce current labor law, including the OSHA General Duty Clause, but you could do your nation no better service than to lead the way on genuine ergonomic standards for the workplace.Elaine Chao knows of this but will not seem to want to do anything about it what a rippoff that is so more people get injured!!!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Going to court with the right person helping

#18UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, November 19, 2006

Tammy-Latta South Carolina, Thank you so much for your help! With your help in court we can show how Honda does the firing and injustice to the workers at Honda! With your first hand look at how they treat you once you are injured at work, working for them so hard that you are injured for life! Then to get fired for your hard work is the most injustice that a company can do! My wife got an award for Participating in the Pride Circle Program at Honda, and then Fired by them after she was injured at work even with her doctor of records paper saying she cant work with out restrictions! In my opinion that is as two faced as you can get! With there high rate of injury, more hard working employees are finding out and kicked to the curb after they are injured at there job just trying to keep up with the speed of the line! I heard a man had a heartattack on his line working and they didnt stop the line they just kept the line going!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Dept of Labor

#19UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, November 15, 2006

John-Califon, New Jersey Thanks for the help I will check into the Dept of Labor! We have tryed alot of Ohio Gov. Taft run departments like OCRC, OSMB, OBWC, OIC,and are getting no help! In my opinion Gov. Taft is taking care of Honda throught all the Ohio Gov. Offices! Just called OSMB to check on or complaint on the Honda Doctors that we filed on, but got anwser machine no one there to talk to it seems! Left message to call use but no word yet, they must be really buzy there they cant call you back! Get tax dollers at work there! This is being found alot here lately. Now that the Democrats are in power I think every thing will change for the better! They said turn Ohio around and I am holding them to that! Thanks Again John-Califon for your help we need all we can get!


John

Califon,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Why haven't all you guys

#20Consumer Suggestion

Tue, November 07, 2006

who have been fired go to the Dept of Labor? And all who are injured now should go also so the dept can follow the events to try and build a case?


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
LETS FACE IT

#21Author of original report

Tue, November 07, 2006

Honda thinks they are untouchable. So far this is true. Get hurt, get thrown to the curb. It has to stop. Workers & Ex workers need to stand together and stop this maddness. I hear so many horror stories. It makes me SICK. Hurt ex-employee


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
LETS FACE IT

#22Author of original report

Tue, November 07, 2006

Honda thinks they are untouchable. So far this is true. Get hurt, get thrown to the curb. It has to stop. Workers & Ex workers need to stand together and stop this maddness. I hear so many horror stories. It makes me SICK. Hurt ex-employee


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
LETS FACE IT

#23Author of original report

Tue, November 07, 2006

Honda thinks they are untouchable. So far this is true. Get hurt, get thrown to the curb. It has to stop. Workers & Ex workers need to stand together and stop this maddness. I hear so many horror stories. It makes me SICK. Hurt ex-employee


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
LETS FACE IT

#24Author of original report

Tue, November 07, 2006

Honda thinks they are untouchable. So far this is true. Get hurt, get thrown to the curb. It has to stop. Workers & Ex workers need to stand together and stop this maddness. I hear so many horror stories. It makes me SICK. Hurt ex-employee


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Dirty Dozen Corportions#5 Honda Motor Of America

#25UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, November 06, 2006

Although they are highly regarded in the environmental world, the automotive supplier has become the wrong type of model in the health and safety world. Their drive for lean production has resulted in an abominable record for worker safety and health. Ergonomic injuries were so high at this company, one years tally of reported OSHA log entries (2000) accounted for 1.25% of the reported ergonomic injuries in the entire country! The rate for repeated trauma injuries at the assembly plants was 21% and 35% compared to 7% for the average in the auto assembly industry!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Ohio Helps Honda but not Ford or GM

#26UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, November 01, 2006

To convince Honda to locate in Ohio, the state gave Hondaincentives worth over $60 million to build its Marysville complex. As part of the deal, Honda won't have to pay property taxes for 15 years. The Marysville plant led the boom in Honda's U.S. sales that has permanently changed the shape of the industry. Today, in American passenger car sales, the Big Three are G.M., Ford and Honda. My Opinion, If they can do this for Honda why not help Ford and GM


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Ohio Helps Honda but not Ford or GM

#27UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, November 01, 2006

To convince Honda to locate in Ohio, the state gave Hondaincentives worth over $60 million to build its Marysville complex. As part of the deal, Honda won't have to pay property taxes for 15 years. The Marysville plant led the boom in Honda's U.S. sales that has permanently changed the shape of the industry. Today, in American passenger car sales, the Big Three are G.M., Ford and Honda. My Opinion, If they can do this for Honda why not help Ford and GM


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Ohio Helps Honda but not Ford or GM

#28UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, November 01, 2006

To convince Honda to locate in Ohio, the state gave Hondaincentives worth over $60 million to build its Marysville complex. As part of the deal, Honda won't have to pay property taxes for 15 years. The Marysville plant led the boom in Honda's U.S. sales that has permanently changed the shape of the industry. Today, in American passenger car sales, the Big Three are G.M., Ford and Honda. My Opinion, If they can do this for Honda why not help Ford and GM


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Ohio Helps Honda but not Ford or GM

#29UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, November 01, 2006

To convince Honda to locate in Ohio, the state gave Hondaincentives worth over $60 million to build its Marysville complex. As part of the deal, Honda won't have to pay property taxes for 15 years. The Marysville plant led the boom in Honda's U.S. sales that has permanently changed the shape of the industry. Today, in American passenger car sales, the Big Three are G.M., Ford and Honda. My Opinion, If they can do this for Honda why not help Ford and GM


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Honda Expert Caught Destroying Evidence

#30UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, October 25, 2006

Honda Expert Caught Destroying Evidence The public is baraged by attacks on the civil justice system. Most often, those attacks are made by politicians who rely on big business and the insurnace industry for their political life. Rarely are the antics of big business in litigation exposed. Now, thanks to the fine legal team at Trial Lawyers for Public Justice a devastating opinion from a judge against Honda and one of its experts has been unsealed. TV screenwriters could not have written a more rivetting plot. A 17 year old girl is tragically injured in an accident, allegedly as a result of a defective roof on a Honda vehicle. The issue of whether she was wearing her seat belt is critical to the case and, according to this opinion, Honda's expert witness set out to destroy evidence which would have shown that the seat belts were being worn, then lied about it. The story doesn't end there. After the court sanctions Honda big time (by saying in essence "you lose this case," Honda settles the case and gets the incriminating order sealed. This expert is allowed to go on testifying in other cases, and no one else is told of his dirty deeds. In my opinion this sounds like the two Honda Doc.s in our case!!25 or so say my wife was injured at work,but two Honda Doc.s belittled her injury!!They will get caught someday!! Not anymore!


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Keep them Coming

#31Author of original report

Tue, October 17, 2006

The more complaints we get on this page, the better it will be for me to go forward with a formal complaint. Keep the HOS = Honda Horror stories coming people. Share the link with as many other as you can, email it to them, fa them, hell write it on thier butt. POWER IN NUMBERS! OHIO MIKE!!!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Honda injured another worker and gets away with murder

#32UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sat, October 14, 2006

Worker sues Honda for safety firing Tonya Blair tries to do the right thing and she doesn't give up easily. A mother of two, the mid-Ohio native was nineteen when she hired into Honda of Americas Marysville Auto Plant. Her plan was to make a career out of working for Honda. It was a company that paid well and promised to be loyal to hard-working employees. Tonya was willing. She figured she would work at Honda until she was forty-nine, raise her children and have a good, healthy, retirement. After twelve years and several work related surgeries at Honda Tonya was fired. Returning to work after a respiratory infection the company "safety staff" assigned her to work on a job for which she had permanent medical restrictions. "Just try the job," said the "safety staff" person. Tonya chose not to "try" working with carpet and insulation that she, her doctors, and her employer all knew she was allergic to. A few days later a Honda Administration person phoned her at home to say she was fired. Honda "safety" policy is to use up workers, fight their Workers Compensation claims, and then separate them from employment. Over the past twenty years in Ohio Honda has injured thousands of workers. Tonya Blair chose to fight back. One year after the discharge Tonya filed a "wrongful discharge" suit against the company. The company, the lawsuit charged, could not fire her for not working on a dangerous job. The Company Honda was the first of the Japanese automakers to build manufacturing facilities in the United States. The Marysville Auto Plant, built on a swamp thirty miles northwest of Columbus, went into production in 1982. The nearby auto assembly plant at East Liberty opened in 1989. The company, which also has an engine plant and a transmission plant in the state, now employs 13,000 in Ohio, with another 3,500 working at manufacturing facilities in Alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina. By late 2004 Honda will have the capacity to build 1.4 million vehicles a year in North America. Honda pay and benefits are the highest manufacturing wages within driving distance of its plants. With the highest per car profits in the industry the automaker pays a Big Three type wage and benefits package and constantly tells workers in meetings and on its in-house cable television system, that Honda is a more viable company than Ford, General Motors or Chrysler. The company promises lifetime loyalty, a family atmosphere, and a workplace where the worker is listened to and valued. In mid-Ohio, hiring into Honda is "hitting the lottery". "The Power of Dreams" Jobs are tough to find, good paying ones even tougher. Everyone who "makes it" into Honda feels lucky. They were the few from hundreds of applicants who got hired. They made it through a battery of interviews, tests and group interactions designed to find workers who fit the system and to weed out potential union supporters. An orientation week greets new hires. Here they learn that working at Honda is "living the dream". Along with the good wage there will be respect. This is a different kind of company. Never a layoff. Everyone is equal. New hires are told of working in teams, of "town meetings" and "voluntary improvement programs". Any worker can voice any concerns they have to management, even to the highest levels of management. Everyone in the company wears the same white uniform with their names embroidered in red enforcing an illusion that everyone is respected equally at Honda. Once on the line it doesn't take a new hire long to notice that not every one is equal. One out of every five or so workers is a "temp", temporarily at Honda but actually employed by the subcontractor Adecco, a temporary services company. The temps do the same jobs as Honda workers for half the pay and no benefits. If an Adecco "temp" makes it two years at Honda they may get interviewed for a regular job. Or not. And they may be able to come back to work another two years as a temp at Honda if they first leave for thirty days. Or not. Honda's claim of "no layoffs in twenty years and just look at the big three ?" rests on the temps. Less work, less temps. More work, more temps. Squeezing more profits, more temps fewer new-hires. But for a while to the new Honda worker the paycheck looks great and Honda sounds real good. It's the power of Honda dreams. But then there's Honda reality. The Reality Dan Lowe, a Honda worker through seven years of assembly line work and several surgeries, is a body builder and military veteran. "It takes a couple of years for the lies to wear off," says Lowe. "Then they get hurt. Or some coordinator screws ?em over. Then they come to me and I ask them ?Who's been telling you all along the truth about this place?' Then they want to do something, after Honda shows them the dream is a lie." The time between cars on the Honda assembly line is 54 seconds each one of which is used for work. The stress of such intense and fast work is a health hazard causing severe physical and emotional health problems. The intensity turns strong, young workers into fodder for local carpal tunnel clinics. Ray Castle has been at Honda for twelve years. He says, "I was 24, young and naive, when I hired in. The woman who trained me on my first job at Honda was being moved to a different job after being hurt on that job and I thought, ?I'm a man, I'm tough, I won't get hurt.' "Eight months later my right hand was in terrible pain. I had trigger finger. I found out later that I was the eighth person in three years to be hurt on that job. Honda knew that but didn't tell me. I was told later that the company thought it was cheaper to pay for the surgeries than fix the problem. "I got my surgery on a Friday morning and was back to work the next Monday even though the doctor said I should take six weeks off. The company gave me an occurrence for getting the surgery they had approved." Honda workers are hurt because, as Castle learned, the company has decided it's cheaper to pay for avoidable surgeries than it is to design work safely. Honda takes healthy young people, uses up their physical abilities, and then tosses them aside. Honda, and the other "lean production" manufacturers, under-staff the factory employing too few workers to accommodate the vacation, sick leave, funeral and other days that workers take off. Workers are assigned to "teams", workgroups of twelve to eighteen run by a "team leader" (a position similar to traditional foreman). Relief workers are rare so absences often mean co-workers have to work harder to make up for their missing co-worker. Restricted workers are unwelcome in workgroups because they won't be able to rotate through the tougher jobs. The "loyalty culture" which Honda began pushing in orientation process comes to full bloom here as loyalty to Honda's bottom line. Front line managers, team leaders and coordinators, reinforce Honda loyalty with arbitrary policies and the much repeated idea that missing workers are slackers or disloyal. The absent or injured workers, not corporate understaffing of the shop floor, are why work is harder if everyone doesn't have "perfect attendance". The Honda safety system does not fix a poorly designed job when it is hurting workers. It doesn't accommodate the workers it hurts. The Honda safety system brings peer pressure against injured workers. Tonya Blair got stuck in the Honda system. General Duty Clause Every worker in the United States is entitled to a workplace safe from known hazards. That's what the law has said for thirty years. Every employer must provide that "safe and healthful" workplace. Honda stands squarely opposed to the general duty clause. The Honda Handbook given to all workers says that workers, not the company, are responsible for safety. For it's "safety trainings" Honda uses the consultant Dupont which promotes the false science of behavior based safety. The core message from Dupont is that "accidents" in the workplace are caused by human error more than 90% of the time. Workplace safety experts around the world, fifty years ago, repudiated the insurance company studies Dupont relies upon and adopted a protocol called the "hierarchy of controls". The hierarchy shows safety managers that poor workplace design and unsafe materials must be improved to reduce illnesses and injuries. Honda safety staff is untrained in safety matters. It is actually not a safety staff with the expertise and authority to improve safety but a part of management that places people back into jobs after injuries. Stories like Ray Castle's of a work process hurting people over and over again are common. Thousands of injured workers have been re-assigned by Honda to the job that hurt them. Honda of America Manufacturing violates federal workplace safety laws and regulations daily. It's a policy. Honda is an un-indicted corporate criminal. The legal case Employment law says workers are not to be fired for discriminatory reasons ? race, gender and so on depending on state law ? but can be fired for no reason because they are employed "at the will" of both the employer and themselves. Either can break the relationship "at will" meaning you can be fired for no reason at all. The most important exception to "employment at will" is the "just cause" clause in union contracts. Most unionized workers are protected from arbitrary firings by negotiated contract clauses limiting the employer to only firing workers when they can show "just cause" that the person should lose their job. Public policy can also create an exception to the at will doctrine. Tonya's lawsuit asserted that Ohio's public policy placing responsibility for workplace safety on employers creates an exception to "employment at will". If Ohio employers must provide a safe workplace, then Honda cannot fire Tonya for refusing to work a job that she and the company both know is unsafe for her. It wouldn't matter if the job is safe for others. Honda workers in general, and specific Honda workers ? like Tonya ? have the right to a safe job. In the court During questioning of prospective jurors, more than half of the three-dozen citizens in the jury pool claimed some association with the company. A vast majority raised their hands when the judge asked if Americans are too litigious. One prospective juror, a Honda supervisor, repeatedly leaned forward eager to participate in the questioning. "The attendance policy is cut and dried," he said. "I know that policy, I can be fair enforcing it." He responds to a series of questions with answers that make clear his Honda eagerness to participate and his pre-conceived notion of his role in the trial. With his last answer he finally convinces even himself that he cannot be fair and asks to be excused. One elderly juror wore overalls and high rubber boots to the courtroom each day and only one had ever worked in a factory. This was the second time that Tonya's case came before Judge Richard Parritt. The first time he dismissed it without hearing the facts. The state appeals court ruled that it had to go to trial. The appeals court also stated that Honda violated its own attendance policy; that is, Tonya should have been granted excused time instead of being fired for the absences at the end of her employment. The last day Tonya worked When Tonya returned to work from her respiratory infection in the winter of 1999 she reported to the Medical Department as required. She was told to wait in the West Cafeteria for safety representative Rick Clark. When Clark showed up he told Tonya to follow him. As they walked into the plant Tonya asked where she'd be working. "In-panel," said Clark. It was Honda shorthand for Instrument Panel Subassembly where Tonya had worked before. She told Clark that she was allergic to materials in that area and that she had permanent restrictions on file. The Honda safety representative replied, "It's the only job I have for you today." Arriving in the work area Tonya explained her medical problems with the In-Panel area to the coordinator. The coordinator called Doug Bigler, a Project Leader and Clark's supervisor, while Clark went "to try to look into the restrictions." Bigler arrived on the scene and told Tonya In-Panel was the only job he was offering. Tonya asked, "Why are you putting me in an area we know is a problem?" "Because I am," replied Bigler. Clark never returned to the work area. Later Tonya spotted him in the cafeteria where he told her, "You had restrictions, they expired." Clark testified that he offered Tonya gloves for a problem that affected her by touch and breathing. He told her "Why don't you just try it." When asked if he understood Tonya's permanent restrictions as meaning working there would be bad for her health, Clark responded, "Not really. I felt comfortable putting her there ? I didn't feel she'd get sick." Clark, Bigler and the other company witnesses testified that they can not take a workers word on health problems. That would mean a non-medical person making a medical decision, explained one Honda witness. However, none of the Honda people making the decisions about Tonya's health were medically trained. The jury returned its verdict and went home. No damage award for Tonya. Snow was falling in Marysville that Friday evening. Maybe it was just time to go home. The jury understood that Honda had an unmet duty to provide a safe workplace, that it's policies were confusing, and that it's attacks on Tonya's character were irrelevant. But they thought that Tonya, twelve years in the Honda system, should have known that system and played it better that last day she was in the plant. But the Honda system is more than a confusing set of rules designed to create deniability for specific actions by the company. The Honda system is a just-in-time or lean production system producing the highest per vehicle profits in the industry by also producing what is probably the highest per vehicle injury and illness rate in the industry. In the end that system got Tonya Blair.


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
self-insured companys get away with murder

#33UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 06, 2006

Elizabeth: Thank you for using the Feedback Box. BWC no longer publishes the self-insured guideline rulebook which you request. The guidelines can now be found on BWC's website, www.ohiobwc.com. You can find them on the main menu page by clicking on OHIO EMPLOYEES, then SELF-INSURED, then SI CLAIMS PROCEDURE GUIDE to SI CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION. I have contacted Honda's Third Party Administrator, Brad Sinnott (614) 464-8278, in regards to your question about the medication Sonata. Brad told me that because you have an attorney handling your case, he prefers to contact your attorney with his response/answer to your question. Please remember that you can always file a C-86 Motion (which can be downloaded at our website) to request authorization for medications. If the request is rejected by the employer, you will be scheduled for a hearing on the matter, in the Industrial Commission. Because your claim is self-insured, BWC has no jurisdiction over the authorizations of the medications. Again, thank you for the Feedback Box inquiry. Bob Riehle Constituent Affairs - BWC [email protected] My Opinion,Jerry So if you have no computer sorry about your luck!!If we all vote these people out of office maybe the working person might have a chance!!!Thats the only way we will get any changes!!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
self-insured companys get away with murder

#34UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 06, 2006

Elizabeth: Thank you for using the Feedback Box. BWC no longer publishes the self-insured guideline rulebook which you request. The guidelines can now be found on BWC's website, www.ohiobwc.com. You can find them on the main menu page by clicking on OHIO EMPLOYEES, then SELF-INSURED, then SI CLAIMS PROCEDURE GUIDE to SI CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION. I have contacted Honda's Third Party Administrator, Brad Sinnott (614) 464-8278, in regards to your question about the medication Sonata. Brad told me that because you have an attorney handling your case, he prefers to contact your attorney with his response/answer to your question. Please remember that you can always file a C-86 Motion (which can be downloaded at our website) to request authorization for medications. If the request is rejected by the employer, you will be scheduled for a hearing on the matter, in the Industrial Commission. Because your claim is self-insured, BWC has no jurisdiction over the authorizations of the medications. Again, thank you for the Feedback Box inquiry. Bob Riehle Constituent Affairs - BWC [email protected] My Opinion,Jerry So if you have no computer sorry about your luck!!If we all vote these people out of office maybe the working person might have a chance!!!Thats the only way we will get any changes!!


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
self-insured companys get away with murder

#35UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 06, 2006

Elizabeth: Thank you for using the Feedback Box. BWC no longer publishes the self-insured guideline rulebook which you request. The guidelines can now be found on BWC's website, www.ohiobwc.com. You can find them on the main menu page by clicking on OHIO EMPLOYEES, then SELF-INSURED, then SI CLAIMS PROCEDURE GUIDE to SI CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION. I have contacted Honda's Third Party Administrator, Brad Sinnott (614) 464-8278, in regards to your question about the medication Sonata. Brad told me that because you have an attorney handling your case, he prefers to contact your attorney with his response/answer to your question. Please remember that you can always file a C-86 Motion (which can be downloaded at our website) to request authorization for medications. If the request is rejected by the employer, you will be scheduled for a hearing on the matter, in the Industrial Commission. Because your claim is self-insured, BWC has no jurisdiction over the authorizations of the medications. Again, thank you for the Feedback Box inquiry. Bob Riehle Constituent Affairs - BWC [email protected] My Opinion,Jerry So if you have no computer sorry about your luck!!If we all vote these people out of office maybe the working person might have a chance!!!Thats the only way we will get any changes!!


Janet

Southside,
Alabama,
U.S.A.
Injured in Alabama

#36UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 06, 2006

I have just had my first surgery since working at Honda. I started in 11-04. The dr. has already informed me that I will have many more. The problem is, with my elbow for example, the dr. said it will take 6-9 months to completely heal yet I only have 60 days of light duty after the surgery. I had to have my tendon reconnected in my elbow for crying out loud! I have been back on line (I work in underbody by the way, everything over my head and 80% of my day is spent torquing in that position) since last Monday. Guess what is blue and black and keeping me up at night all over again? Yep, the elbow. The dr. says that the surgery site is not tearing but all the surrounding tissue around it is. The only option I am left with since I have no light duty days left is to take a function-compatibility-test and be put on permanent restrictions. That is no option. I have friends and acquaintences who are no longer working there pending Honda "finding" them something to do with restrictions. Horsecrap. We have temporary employees driving vehicles off the line and also working in quality. These are jobs someone with permanent restrictions is MORE than qualified to do. I don't know how it is out there in Ohio, but for every permanent employee out here that leaves, a temp fills the space. I don't think it makes any sense either to put you right back into the same zone doing the exact thing that injured you to begin with. The management is supposed to be so educated and "smart" yet this is truly a no-brainer. Geez. The biggest reason I am even working there is for the health insurance and this week we find out that the deductibles are going up. So much for the cost of living raise we got. Sure, Honda pays good......because they realize you will NEVER EVER EVER retire from there. They are like LEECHES.... bleed every bit of youth and strength out of you and when you can't go on anymore they get rid of you and replace you with a 20 year old temp. I am a 40 year old female by the way is pretty good shape. Or I was.


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
I am always looking for a way to stop the maddness

#37Author of original report

Thu, October 05, 2006

I feel terrible for your family and all the others who have had to deal with this type of h**l. I do have a few people that work at the OHIO BWC and have given me information before, I will see what I can do to see how many claims from "HAM" get swept under the rug. I too hope your family gets by ok. This has to become a public issue so the word gets out. Like I said, the maddness has to stop. We gave our blood, sweat and even parts of our bodies through surgery to this company and we were to put it lightly, sh1t on and disgarded. Best of luck and keep in touch. Maybe together we can get in touch with more like ourselves and get the "secret world of honda known" Best regards,


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Taft takes care of Honda

#38UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, October 05, 2006

In my opinion Gov. Taft is taking care of Honda, for there campain e money givin to Tafts campaine.In return Gov. Taft through BWC, OCRC, OSMB, gets Hondas injured workers claims dismissed, or draged out for 10 years like ours. Can you check out the number of Honda injured worker claims that make it out of BWC. My wifes civil rights throught OCRC was not addressed, was this a faver for Honda from Taft!!! We had the two Honda Dr,s checked out by OSMB,but once again Tafts ran OSMB was no help to the Ohio injured worker!!! Please can you help our Family!!! You need to check out all you can about Gov.Taft! Didnt Taft leave the country right after the coin deal, could this be where he put his money from his share of the coin deal? Maybe this is why the ohio injured worker gets no help!! Taft needed more money from BWC for his coin deals!! Thanks Jerry . P.S.you are doing a great job please help use because we are getting no help from any Gov. Tafts Ohio ran offices which are there to help the Ohio injured worker!! Thanks ! for your time and I hope your family is doing well!! We need a change!!


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
HONDA IS STILL TEATING THE INJURED WORKER LIKE DIRT!!

#39REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, October 04, 2006

I was fired 3 years ago after being seriously injured. At least once a week, I run into a fellow employee who was crapped on the same way. Honda ELP is one of the worst run manufacturing companies in the history of this type of work. Management gets off lying to your face. Administration must have a guide book on "how to screw the worker" I would love for management, admin or the "nurses" to get on here and make a pi$$ poor attempt to justify thier action. In closing, Honda can kiss my ***


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Honda treated me well Huh?

#40Author of original report

Wed, September 06, 2006

How simple of a mind you must have. No one working for Honda, Toyota or any other off these meat markets make 90- 100 K a year. I will be the first to admit, it is monkey work, very hard but a monkey could do it. Repetitive work injuries are the number one problem at the "companies" I doubt you would last 6 hours working the line. The jobs we do require you to a number of parts on each peice od Honda Sheot at a whole 43 seconds. God forbid you drop a part, sneeze or have to break wind...if you do, you will fall behind. Of course, like I said, you would not have a clue. Not one Clue. Honda works ya, hurts ya, and they are nice enough to Fire ya. In closing, my simple minded friend. Piss off untill you get a clue what you are talking about. I would also love to discuss this issue in person if you can pull yourself away from your cubical long enough to so. Again, until then. Grow up, shut up, and get a real job.


Lee Ving

San Francisco,
California,
U.S.A.
Honda treated you well

#41Consumer Comment

Tue, August 29, 2006

I'm not sure why you are so upset with Honda. Antyone who works as a production worker at an auto factory is way overpaid for their skillset in the first place. This includes Honda and Toyota workers even though they're not unionized, they still receive approximately the same outrageous pay as their American mfg counterparts. So you should look at differently, not that you got screwed by Honda, but that Honda got screwed by you. They paid you 90-100K a year to screw a valve stem cover on the left front tire of a Civic. I'd suggest you go to your local Wal-Mart, then you'll see what an employer really is.


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
HONDA OF AMERICA IS FIREING INJURED WORKES

#42REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, August 28, 2006

I used to work for this sorry *** company. was injured, now I do not have a job. I have spoken with hundreds of injured worked who have also be "let go" When will this maddness stop. This Company is totally out of control. They lie, cheat and violate all the "Comp self insured guidlines" I am making my life goal to make this company crumble. They messed with the wrong employee. Six surgeries on my rt arm. I did receive a settlement, it was a good chunk of change, but I cannot do manual ever again. DOWN WITH HONDA and management.


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
self-insured companys get away with murder

#43Consumer Suggestion

Thu, August 17, 2006

To all workers at self-insured companys, beware!!!The Gov. has aloud the big companys the right to self-insure there employees! This means they get to make the rules as the go on your injured workers claims. For example if you are injured they have the right to refuse treatment so you have to fight through BWC and IC to get treatment for your injury that you got at there company!!This is a joke!! We have been fighting for ten year and two bankruptcy later and still dont have a settlement yet! As a self-insured company you have to go through BWC and get a settlement form and the company you work for has to ok the settlement price befor you can send the form in!! So all the company has to do is offer you what ever they fell like! In our case it was 5,000 for an injury that made me disabled for life!! Everyone knows thats a joke!!But by the self-insured law pur-Brad at BWC,We have to agree on the settlement before we can file form for one!! What kind of a law is that!I will tell you it is for the big companies that give big money to Gov.Campaines!! Thats all the Gov. cares about not the person who gets injured but the companys that give big money to there campaines!! Thats how this self-insured law came into effect, so if you work at a self-insured company like Honda Beware!! Because you are about to get nothing and no help from any Gov. Office in Ohio if you get injured! So who is paying for the companys injured workers, The tax payer not the company that injured the worker!! It must be nice for the big companes to have the Gov.taking care of them like this!! We are sorry that you the tax payer has to take care of the self-insured injured workers!!We are living off of our SSD and losing every thing we have worked so hard in life to get! This is not right so call your Senators and tell them it is time for a change!! Sen Marc Dann is the only person so for that has see this injustice and is helping use and he has my vote on any new spot in goverment he wishes to run for!!Someone who cares for the injured worker and not big companys campaine money!! I hope to be writing a book about self-insured companys from our ten year fight, and how they get away with murder!! Thanks


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Injured at Honda while working,then fired after injury

#44Consumer Suggestion

Fri, July 21, 2006

We would like to talk to Tammy-Latta,South Carolina and Mike - Russells Point Ohio on your treatment while at Honda!! If anyone has any more storys of being fired while injured from working at Honda please e-mail use at (((ROR REDACTED E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR SECURITY PURPOSES))) as soon as you can!!!Together we can maybe get something done on this injustice!!! Looking forward to hearing from you,Thanks for your time! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Tammy

Latta,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.
It's happening with Honda on the East Coast too.

#45UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, July 18, 2006

I worked at Honda of South Carolina for 3 years. In the Human Resource Department of all places. I have seen it all. They have no respect for there employees. And if you do however get hurt, you will be terminated as soon as they find a reason. I know this for a fact. I have seen them do so many people (good, honest people) wrong. I do not buy anything with Honda on it now.


Jerry

DeGraff,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Injured and thrown in the trash by Honda

#46UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, July 13, 2006

I was injured in 1996 I was working at Bellmore Parts. I was hired full time in Jun 16,1994, I also worked their just about a Year before I was hired. As a temporary they changed their name to Honda transmit ion know Honda. I was working on their Transmit ion line when I was injured. I was diagnosed having bilateral carpel tunnel, contusion left wrist tendonitis, and dequervains tenosynoitis left wrist. I was also diagnosed with R.S.D. that my attorney and my Dr which is Dr Condon of record. Has been trying to get on my claim as well. Honda has blocked me at every turn from the very beginning at every turn, anything the Dr wonted to try was always denied by Honda. I appeal their objection and usely am able to continue but as soon as Dr Condon starts his treatment plan Honda puts a stop to it. Dr Condon is concerned do to the fact that I have not been in his office fore a exam on my injury since 12-6-04 and I have been with out medication that has been proscribed fore me to help me get through each day since 5-19-05. Do to the fact Honda decided they are no longer paying fore my medication's or my Dr appointment's and treatment. My hands swell don't matter what I try and do, they go num and tingle, I get sharp pains that go up my left arm and across my shoulder's. I was born left handed, both my hand's bother me but my left hand bother's me most. I have a lot of trouble sleeping. I drop thing's all the time and that is a hard thing to dill with. I have a lot of trouble opening jar's or dilling with small object's button's or hair pin's. My grip is very poor, just trying to write this is a struggle. My hands are stiff feeling and feel wrated down, but easier to read. I wear a brace most of the time know. My hand's sweet of and on, they get cold feeling and numb. This is my life know thanks to Honda and their mistreatment of their injured workers. I live in pain and discomfort every day all day. I have been seen by 25 different Doctor's since I was injured. And two of them are Honda Doctor's that they use all the time to sent their injured worker's to their name's are Dr Steiman and Dr McCloud most of the time. Both of the Dr's have been reported to the Ohio Medical Board, both Dr's have stated one thing but will document something totally different in my report's back to Honda and the Medical Board concerning my injury . And both Doctor's have belittled my injury and even Dr Condon cant believe the Dr's are getting by with this injustice . My last independent with Dr McCloud ,his behavior was not becoming a professional and neither Dr has giving me a fare independent exam and this was brought to Dr Condon's and my attorney's attention. Both Dr's have condendickted their own reports, even Dr Condon had caught that. This is not fare to me nor do I have to put up with being treated this way. I can no longer play with my kid's ,I have a 17 year old and a 9 year old. I can't have my hand or arm's hit or bump the pain that gow's thru my arm's is unbelievable, to bump or hit my arm's just right to you, you was hit or bump but to me it fill's as I was punched. I have explained my injury as best as I can, people don't care or they just don't understand? I believe people just don't care, it's not them ,they are pain free and live as they want. At the end of the day they go home no problem's and play with their kid's while I'm unable to do know, because Honda get's by with with holding treatment ,there is medical evidence some one just need's to take the time to read it fore them selves and not take the word of some one else that my injury don't really effect them. I live in pain and discomfort from the time I get up to the time I go to sleep.Dr Condon has wrote I don't Know how many report's and letter's trying to help me you can speak to Dr Condon at Mary Rotan Hospital Corporate health at 1-937-592-5015 ,Dr Severing out of O,S,U. out of Columbus documented I have R,S,D you can call him at 1-614-488-1100. As of 1-1-06 S.S is paying fore my medication which is Sonata ,Celebrex ,and Davorcet and I have not worked any where since 2000 as a security job was unable to continue do to my injury. We fill it's gowning to take a pretty good lawyer to take on such a huge company like Honda. I'm running out of hope of ever getting what I deserve. Can you please please help me!!If you can help me please let me know as soon as possible. We found out the internet that it is illegal to fire some one while on tempery tottle,I was on medical, when Honda fired me and per Americans with disability act that is illegal. I was receiving tempery tottle at the time, my doctor. Dr Condon was at the time trying to work with Honda to get me back to work with my restrictions, Honda even called concerning a new line but fore some resone Honda would not speak with Dr Condon concerning job letter s are found where Dr Condon tried to see job. He had went in to Honda before to see possible jobs but the job that was menchend by Honda he was unable to review? I was fired instead, Believe rights was violated. Was told files and hard drive fore my case has been shredded and cleared ,but I have all my files and Dr reports. Just want to see if because what we found out if my case on being fired while being on temporary tottle can be reopened? And why B.w.c. can take the word of a Doctor that see's you once or twice over the word and documentation of a doctor that has been on the case since the beginning. There is other court cases that my husband has found on the internet that state's this is not legal. If true why has this happened to me? And that the b.w.c. cant see that my case has been ronfuly handeled . I need my case gone over care fully so I can get a fair judgment. P.S On SSI too like Mike Thank you - Elizabeth


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Wipe your chin...

#47UPDATE Employee

Sat, February 04, 2006

Nuff said, No education.... I beg to differ you one. Enjoy.


Jay

Rockford,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It Is NOT that bad...

#48Consumer Suggestion

Sat, February 04, 2006

IF, and I mean IF it was SO bad at Honda, why is there no union? The UAW would LOVE to be in there, but they are not, for a reason. They aren't needed. And you mention injuries, that happens when repetitive work is done. That is part of manual labor. You chose not to get an education, now you must labor for a living. Your story does not seem legit. Sorry.


Mike

Russells Point,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It's me again

#49UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, January 24, 2006

In simple terms, Honda ended up forcing me to "resign" I am now completely diabeled and on Social Security. There are so many workers who are hurt, and they are terrified to report thier injury as they see people like myself disapeer. Someone needs to do something about the unfair, unsafe working envirionment at all the Honda plants. I feel as if my life is over. I am 36 years old and can't even throw a baseball with my Sons. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THE HONDA WORKER.

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