Josh
Hamilton,#2UPDATE Employee
Mon, January 10, 2005
My name is josh, I am a brand new owner in ontario canada... i know a lot of people get upset with the way certain businesses are run. that's the beauty of opinions. you shouldnt be judged negatively because of an opinion. but here's what's up. i run my business a certain way. same as a mcdonalds owner in tucson, az and another in las vegas, nv have differences in business ethics. surely, eventhough the system is cookie cutter to ensure equal training and customer service standards are theoretcally making the two franchises equally equipped for success, the two will have different profits and revues due to employee morale, customer satisfaction and of course leadership. yeah, some owners in my organiztion have screwed up. we're human. treating others like humans has never been an issue. i myself to say i've never gone home with 20 dollars for 12hrs is a lie. also me making 400 for 3 hrs is aswell. the reason i'm still here, is because i understood No \job will ever give me what i need to be finacially free, but this business was an outlet to let me work for it. you are never guaranteed more than 300/wk for your first week in my business, untll you can guarantee you can earn it yourself. the tools are there as one of you mentiones, the 5.8 and 4. my help is always free, my merchandise is always on consignment but no one is forced to work all 12 hrs in a day, food is always yor own responsibilty in most any job, pack a lunch and save 5 bucks a day. transportation is usually a privlige too, but hw many times did you use someone else's car to make money? wouldnt the right thing to do is to shoot out 5 bucks, thats up to you.taxes are also up to you. but an independant contractor can write things off, so the more u spend on your business...u get the idea. well... the only ones who know anything about this business really i found, are the ones that stick around long enough to find all the answers, not the ones who are in it 2 weeks and do drugs at work and complain about not getting ahead. [email protected] if u want more answers
R.I.P ODB
EVERYWHERE,#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, December 16, 2004
kinda liked working at my branch cuz it was kids my own age (just finished college), your allowed and somewhat encouraged to act silly (i'm a goof ball), and i smoked mad weed with my leader and other fellow distributors and leaders (both while at work and after work). o and also wanted to see how good i would be at selling other things besides drugs. so don't censor me, i'm being honest.. but hey enough about me let's break it down for all the parties involved.... alright it's simple marxian economics...your not being paid properly for the amount of work you're putting in, and when you factor in the other costs(gas,lunch, lost benefits, car maintenance, new suites) then you're really losing out. you might get strung along with the whole "will be a branch manager in 3-6 months" crap but honestly there's only so many offices innovage/dsmax wants to open. so what? all 15-30 people in the office are going to be owners? what about the 15-30 people in all the other offices around the country? them too? obviously not...that's why it's a very competitive business...well then that means you're only going to get successful first by exploiting your workers and getting people to stay at a job that's not compensating them well and with a small chance of upward mobility, coupled with a false hope of success. and secondly by selling cheap, third rate products made in sweatshops over in china to unknowing, impulsive consumers out there for a very high profit return (90-95%) that will mostly go to the manager and the corporate people instead of to you(who did all the hard work but is told will be rewarded later,"you'll see") and sometimes you're forced to rip off people in your very own town! i mean considering all the probabilities involved YOU probably won't be promoted to a manager unless you can scam people into sticking with your crew long enough so that you can get promoted, eventhough most of your crew won't even be rewarded/compensated, in those 3-6 months if at all, for all the time and money they put into the company. "just waving a carrot in front the slow turtle." i guess owning your own company is fine and all but i mean a lot of people can make over 100k a yr if they put in the amount of overtime some of these owners and asst managers have to put in. i don't know, i think dsmax/innovage needs those poor brainwashed sales people, who are getting ripped off, a lot more than they do that small percentage of people who can actually succeed in a business like that. if they separated the offices into mgmnt training and sales then the management office would be like 2 or 3 people while the sales office would be like 40-50 people. plus they'd have to give the people in the sales office a bigger commission, otherwise no one would stick around. it's just easier to combine the two and give the people that are only kept around for sales less money and getting away with it by justifying the rip-off with the whole "it's a management training program, you'll make the real money once you finish training and build a crew and open your own office and etc.." line of bullsh*t. I mean i don't have much morals or much of a conscience (which is prolly why i want to go into the music biz), but even i don't have that utter lack of morality and that void of conscienceness that these owners and other higher ups in this so called "business" must possess in order to succeed. in other words i may be able to be some type of lowlife in the music industry, but most definetly not the type of scumbag you would need to be as an owner. by the way the only reason i stuck around for like 2 weeks was cuz my manager kept saying the company was going to branch out into entertainment. i didn't stick around long enough to find out what he meant by that but i bet it was either yanni tickets or toy keyboards made in china for 10 cents each but sold in america for a ridiculously low price of 9.99! o plus the stupid sales tax that no one ever wants to pay! hahaha