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  • Report:  #741843

Complaint Review: LALA Web Designer - Marina del Rey California

Reported By:
Brian - Redondo Beach, California, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

LALA Web Designer
333 Washington Blvd. Suite 232 Marina del Rey, 90292 California, United States of America
Phone:
310-266-6091
Web:
lalawebdesigner.com, losangeles.lalawebdesigner.com
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Please consumers be warned- I have now learned through a trusted friend and genius computer programmer that what happened to me is happening to many many others. Scammers like Ryan Johnson (if thats his real name) are taking advantage of the massive trend towards small businesses developing a web presence via a website. And we are especially at risk given the current economic crisis as businesses look to save money like never before, yet still realize the need for a good marketing presence. An inexpensive website fulfills this need perfectly- or so we hope. If you call around to established graphic and web design firms, many are shocked like I was at the cost of creating a savvy, web-current site. Most quotes came in around $3000- and that was without e-commerce! Then I found good 'ol Ryan via a Craigslist search (the land of freelancers- a curse and blessing.) I was impressed by his splashy ad that ran over and over, and an advertised price that used to start at $295 (no longer- his greed is growing and his website now says $1000 min.) So I thought- perfect- he knows his design, knows how to market/SEO effectively, has an impressive portfolio, and has extremely reasonable pricing. SO I called him, found him pleasant, and arranged a meeting at my dance studio. How nice I thought, he'll even drive to meet me at my place, which I deemed important to get a good visceral feel of the studio's branding and overall goals as he considered his design elements for the new website.

Turns out the drive was just so he could capture a check from me quickly. His website claims "3 mocks ups and no down payment until sample page approved" yet he told me I would have to pay at least 1/2 up front since I needed the new website somewhat quickly. Quoted price was between $1800- $2400 max- still significantly below other quotes we found- so he asked for $1200. Now I must admit fault- I went ahead and gave it to him without argument despite his clearly posted "satisfaction guarantees" that stipulate the 3 mockups and no $ until happy with sample, no templates, etc.

So off he went. 3 days later our first sample arrived. I was floored- it clearly looked like a template and was very ameturish. In fact, he still has it live, captive at his website (maybe to help him in a lawsuit)- here it is, see for yourselves: http://danceforeverstudio.com/lalawebdesign/

I told him I was clearly not happy with it, and asked for a redesign. He came back with something even more amateurish, which I have a screenshot of for anyone who would like to see just how bad it is.

Now I'm mad. I start to question his abilities. After all, he helped design pages for Intel's own website right? WRONG. All of his great looking portfolio examples ARE NOT HIS. Most are overseas (knowing people won't call them) and the few that were US based said "nope- never heard of the guy he didn't do my website." Now the picture is becoming clear- I'm dealing with a fraudster. So I plan to ask for my money back, and he says sorry- I have 35 hrs. of work into your website, you need to pay me more than $1200. WHAT? I start to call him on his bluff, and instead of being a legitimate businessperson he simply goes ghost, never to answer my calls again. I then find out his listed address on Washington blvd. is only a PO Box yet it says its a "Suite" on his website. Great, no physical address, and a guy who wont take a call to resolve the matter.

This is when I have my computer programmer friend check him out. He finds that his phone is just a trac phone pay-as-you-go with no registered name, the LALA website is registered skillfully in a way that you can't get the owner's info, so he sadly inform's me sorry- you've been had.

My own research found that the clever multiple listing he does on Craigslist is actually a  violation of CL rules called top-posting. For starters, consider that- he won't even follow Craigslist rules that all
agree to when posting, undercutting all the hard-working legitimate law abiding website graphic design firms and individuals using that wonderful free website to advertise during these difficult times.

Now granted, as you can see by the link above, he did do some work (my programmer friend estimated it at about three hours- not 35!!) But consider- we asked for a fully customized site, rich with graphics and flashy buttons etc, and he delivered this canned template site (a template that anyone can buy for $45) And apparently he did some Wordpress work behind it (WP is free open source software BTW) but then he refused to provide a detailed invoice describing the extent of that work, nor would he give us the WP password so we could review it ourselves. I definitely call BS on that.

So here I am- with this sub-par hack beginner of a website, still hosted by Ryan Johnson's LALA domain. So much for a well-spent $1200. The site is incomplete and unusable, and even if we wanted to work with it we cant since he apparently holds it hostage on his server.

The cell phone #ers he uses are often disconnected and changing and are all pay-as-you-go phones. In fact, if you try to search for his multiple ads on Craigslist it's kinda difficult since he uses mutltiple phone #ers, many of which are non-working #ers, in an apparent attempt to fool the CL policing used to flag over-postings like his. Here's one to try, the only one that seems to continue to work: 310-266-6091 (must be the number his mother has?)

This is a bad guy. HAS ANYONE ELSE BEEN SCAMMED BY HIM? I now have his real address and other information for those that want to serve him. I know I'm not the only one.


1 Updates & Rebuttals

Cheri

Milwaukee,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
I am a web designer as well...

#2Consumer Suggestion

Fri, June 17, 2011

I can feel your frustration and web designers like these give us legitimate designers a bad name! First of off why did you choose this guy off of Craig's List? Honestly, that's the last place i'd look for a professional! There are professional portfolio sites on Behance, LinkedIn, etc you should be checking instead. Also the biggest rule of thumb that protects you as a consumer as well as the designer is getting everything in writing. Before you sign anything or hand over any money, get that stuff down on paper - all of the conditions, when you will receive revisions, etc. That way you'd be legally covered and have something to go on when you need to take action against this particular individual. Always do your homework before you hire your designer as well, check with past clients.

Btw, i'm not defending the designer at all, but it's quite common for designers to start out with a template and customize it depending on the client, this cuts down on some of the coding but by no means is an easy task - You may think Wordpress is easy or junk because it's free / open source - Not the case. You still have to have technical skill to install and get Wordpress up and running properly and to customize it. It's very time-consuming and it's flexibility is one of the reasons it's one of the top open-source CMS systems out there. So don't discount a designer based on the fact they are using Wordpress as a coding system or using a template as a base. Yes, you will find people who will code your site from scratch but they will charge a whole lot more AND it will be nearly impossible for you to update the site unless you know HTML coding.

Just my .02 as a web designer for the past 12 years!

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