Susan
Buena Park,#2Author of original report
Sun, March 18, 2007
The information that you said was Lies Lies Lies was posted by another user I do not know, I have never corresponded with them. My understanding is that they cut and pasted that information directly from ebay.
Susan
Buena Park,#3Author of original report
Sat, March 17, 2007
The new accounts (please note there are actually two new accounts) were only opened after they concluded their little time out with ebay. Unfortunately ebay is so money hungry that even ebayers who have proven they cannot be trusted do get a second chance. If you look at the spelling in her most rebuttal, you can clearly see that the individual who wrote this rebuttal is the very same individual who wrote all of the previous emails. While it is nice that "Mrs. Holly" wants to make nice at this point and time, it would have been nicer had she just treated me with the respect that I was due at the time. Since my posting and the posting of the other 4 individuals here on the rip off report were so instrumental in proving this alleged identity theft I would have thought that since identity theft is a federal offense, I or the other posters would have been contacted, we have not. I recently contacted one of the ebayers cheated and he was made whole financially after his dealings with this seller. While this is nice, he shouldn't have had to go through what he did to get his money. In the recent past, I as well as some of the other individuals who posted a rip-off report have been contacted by the same ebayers asking nonsensical questions stating the same individuals were cheating them. Interesting considering they abandoned their old ebay id and started a few new ids and there is no way they could have followed the trail back to us. Since these other contacts I posted for sale items that are in the same category as those being sold by this disreputable ebayer, on my description I address my 1 negative feedback, after this post I once again received nonsensical questions from an ebay id that had not been active for over 3 years; within the id is the same name as has been adopted by one of the new ebayers, Mary . I might have thought that I was just being paranoid after dealing with this ebayer, but then their rebuttal. Obviously they have been looking at my auction items and have seen not only my disclaimer in addressing my 1 negative feedback but have also checked out where I have updated feedback that now leads to one of their new ebay ids. Why else address this rip-off report since it has been over 5 months since I last posted anything. In watching the new ebay id, the same tale tell mis-spelling and misuse of grammar, same lame excuses.. Snowed in, death in the family, you are the only ones complaining, etc. Mrs. Holly, just clean up your act. Mabey (and she will know what this is) you can keep a good business going if you just treat your customers right, send the product when you say that you are going to send it and communicate HONESTLY with them. Interesting that you titled your rebuttal LIES LIES LIES. There is nothing but honesty in my report and nothing but excuses in yours. By the way, didn't you use this latest claim of identity theft when you opened justminerals4u which quickly got suspended? Keep your nose clean and mabey when folk come here and read the rip-off report they won't believe a word of it. I wouldn't have even bothered to respond to this rebuttal if it had been an apology rather then another batch of excuses.
Mrs. Holly
Xxxxxx,#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, March 17, 2007
THIS IS A RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT BELOW: "IMPORTANT NOTE: Members who are suspended are prohibited from registering new accounts with eBay, or bidding or selling on eBay using any existing accounts. eBay reserves the right to suspend existing accounts as well as new accounts opened by anyone in the same household of a suspended user or by any other associates of a suspended user" Lynn - Warren, Pennsylvania U.S.A. When you submit court documents for identity theft and unlawful use of personal information to ebay showing an individual/ ex employee has created the difficulties that had been caused, you have the right to another account on ebay. I appriciate all the close attention you have kept on the situation, your post actually helped us with closing arguments. I am sorry for any bad business you have had with the company. I assure you that noone will get treated with any less respect than I expect myself. Thank you -
Lynn
Warren,#5Consumer Suggestion
Tue, August 29, 2006
These are copied and pasted from Ebays rule/help pages. "What happens to your selling activity when your account is suspended? While your account is suspended, you will not be able to use eBay in any way. This includes bidding, selling, and leaving feedback. If and when your account is reinstated, you will be able to leave feedback for transactions you completed within the 30 days prior to the reinstatement of your account. "IMPORTANT NOTE: Members who are suspended are prohibited from registering new accounts with eBay, or bidding or selling on eBay using any existing accounts. eBay reserves the right to suspend existing accounts as well as new accounts opened by anyone in the same household of a suspended user or by any other associates of a suspended user"
Susan
Buena Park,#6Author of original report
Thu, August 17, 2006
Do these people actually think that we are as slow as they are? OK, enough of that. Update Over the next few days, the Hollys received 1 more negative and a positive that was supposed to be a negative. People complaining that they didn't get what they purchased,they had to file a claim with paypal and the like. On the 11th of August they flew in and tried to do damage control on all of the negatives they had received since they were released from the naughty chair by of course blaming the buyers. August 12th brought 3 more negatives a score of 94.8 and I think that the Hollys decided to abandon the seller ID. August 14th I see that the Hollys have opened another ebay store, this time under the eBay ID littlesouthcountrystore, now calling their company Pure Tech Co. Same mis-use of grammar, same wording on their buyer instructions, same photoshopped pictures of Jars that they "borrowed" from the manufacturer. They also have closed down their unfinished website for Uniquemineralcosmetics and on August 14th they purchase a new domain name under puretechco and have started a new website under that name. You know www. puretechco.com. They seemed to have been in a hurry, because the graphics are the same and their new website even still says unique mineral cosmetics. I now contact eBay and question whether a previous seller must devulge whether they have had a previous ebay account. I'll update when I have an answer.
Susan
Buena Park,#7Author of original report
Thu, August 03, 2006
July 31st apparently ended lbhdhch3's little time out, how is that possible? EBay has shown a complete lack of respect and consideration for the buyers that haven't received their product, received inferior product, had orders cancelled because the bid price wasn't enough and that were bid against by the seller themselves. EBay knows by now that this seller has done some very unscrupulous things and they only give them a 2 week time out. I mean they just sit them on the naughty chair for two weeks and then it's hugs and kisses and time for fun. Well, there is a silver lining on this little cloud, and that is by them being reinstated, dissatisfied buyers can now post additional feedback, and that is exactly what is happening. July 31st one dissatisfied buyer posts negative feedback because it appears they didn't get their product and the Holly clan won't even answer their emails. This is their feedback statement did not receive; no seller response since he was banned; just got stuck. August 1st one positive feedback and another negative for product never received. This is the negative post never received item. It also seems clear that the Hollys do have access to a PC because they jumped to post positive for the one that left them a positive. What would be the point unless they plan to sell under this ID. Surely these fools can't be thinking of selling again under this EBay ID, not with 10 negatives, 3 neutral and a great rating like 95.9%, what informed buyer would ever trust them.
Susan
Buena Park,#8Author of original report
Thu, August 03, 2006
July 31st apparently ended lbhdhch3's little time out, how is that possible? EBay has shown a complete lack of respect and consideration for the buyers that haven't received their product, received inferior product, had orders cancelled because the bid price wasn't enough and that were bid against by the seller themselves. EBay knows by now that this seller has done some very unscrupulous things and they only give them a 2 week time out. I mean they just sit them on the naughty chair for two weeks and then it's hugs and kisses and time for fun. Well, there is a silver lining on this little cloud, and that is by them being reinstated, dissatisfied buyers can now post additional feedback, and that is exactly what is happening. July 31st one dissatisfied buyer posts negative feedback because it appears they didn't get their product and the Holly clan won't even answer their emails. This is their feedback statement did not receive; no seller response since he was banned; just got stuck. August 1st one positive feedback and another negative for product never received. This is the negative post never received item. It also seems clear that the Hollys do have access to a PC because they jumped to post positive for the one that left them a positive. What would be the point unless they plan to sell under this ID. Surely these fools can't be thinking of selling again under this EBay ID, not with 10 negatives, 3 neutral and a great rating like 95.9%, what informed buyer would ever trust them.
Susan
Buena Park,#9Author of original report
Thu, August 03, 2006
July 31st apparently ended lbhdhch3's little time out, how is that possible? EBay has shown a complete lack of respect and consideration for the buyers that haven't received their product, received inferior product, had orders cancelled because the bid price wasn't enough and that were bid against by the seller themselves. EBay knows by now that this seller has done some very unscrupulous things and they only give them a 2 week time out. I mean they just sit them on the naughty chair for two weeks and then it's hugs and kisses and time for fun. Well, there is a silver lining on this little cloud, and that is by them being reinstated, dissatisfied buyers can now post additional feedback, and that is exactly what is happening. July 31st one dissatisfied buyer posts negative feedback because it appears they didn't get their product and the Holly clan won't even answer their emails. This is their feedback statement did not receive; no seller response since he was banned; just got stuck. August 1st one positive feedback and another negative for product never received. This is the negative post never received item. It also seems clear that the Hollys do have access to a PC because they jumped to post positive for the one that left them a positive. What would be the point unless they plan to sell under this ID. Surely these fools can't be thinking of selling again under this EBay ID, not with 10 negatives, 3 neutral and a great rating like 95.9%, what informed buyer would ever trust them.
Susan
Buena Park,#10Author of original report
Thu, August 03, 2006
July 31st apparently ended lbhdhch3's little time out, how is that possible? EBay has shown a complete lack of respect and consideration for the buyers that haven't received their product, received inferior product, had orders cancelled because the bid price wasn't enough and that were bid against by the seller themselves. EBay knows by now that this seller has done some very unscrupulous things and they only give them a 2 week time out. I mean they just sit them on the naughty chair for two weeks and then it's hugs and kisses and time for fun. Well, there is a silver lining on this little cloud, and that is by them being reinstated, dissatisfied buyers can now post additional feedback, and that is exactly what is happening. July 31st one dissatisfied buyer posts negative feedback because it appears they didn't get their product and the Holly clan won't even answer their emails. This is their feedback statement did not receive; no seller response since he was banned; just got stuck. August 1st one positive feedback and another negative for product never received. This is the negative post never received item. It also seems clear that the Hollys do have access to a PC because they jumped to post positive for the one that left them a positive. What would be the point unless they plan to sell under this ID. Surely these fools can't be thinking of selling again under this EBay ID, not with 10 negatives, 3 neutral and a great rating like 95.9%, what informed buyer would ever trust them.
Susan
Buena Park,#11Author of original report
Fri, July 21, 2006
Copied from a press release for the office of New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer "SHILL BIDDING" EXPOSED IN ONLINE AUCTIONS Phony Bids Inflate Selling Price of Auctioned Artwork, Sports Memorabilia and Other Merchandise State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer today announced the resolution of three cases arising from an investigation of phony bids in on-line auctions. In the first case, three individuals pleaded guilty to criminal charges stemming from actions they took to inflate the prices of artwork and other merchandise that was sold in E-Bay auctions. In two other cases, defendants entered into civil settlements with the Attorney General's office for illegally bidding up sports memorabilia and automobiles sold in on-line auctions. "The use of shill bids in on-line auctions illegally drives up prices and defrauds consumers," Spitzer said. "These cases and continuing efforts to monitor transactions should help maintain the integrity of on-line auctions." Spitzer commended E-Bay for the valuable assistance it provided to his office, as it investigated the matter. In the criminal case, Jerrold Schuster, the former owner of the New Windsor Auction Gallery, pleaded guilty in the County Court of Orange County in Goshen, to Combination in Restraint of Trade, a violation of the New York antitrust law, a felony punishable by a maximum of four years in prison. Schuster 's former employees, Darek Szydlowski and Francis Komsisky, Jr., pleaded guilty to Attempted Combination in Restraint of Trade, a misdemeanor antitrust violation, which is punishable by up to one year in prison. As part of the disposition, Schuster is expected to pay $50,000 in restitution and fines. According to the criminal charges, Schuster, Szydlowski and Komsisky cast bids in over 1,100 of each others' eBay auctions for the sole purpose of driving up the price of the merchandise that they offered for sale over a five-year period. The defendants were known by various e-Bay User IDs including "sambuca914," "gutek914," "zugnicht," and "fourlizards." In a separate civil case, Robert Baranovich and his son, Steven Baranovich, of West Babylon, agreed to pay $10,000 in penalties and restitution to consumers harmed by their shill bidding. In a complaint filed with the Consent Order settling the case, the Attorney General alleged that the Baranoviches placed 170 phony bids in 165 of their own E-Bay auctions of sports memorabilia. In another civil case, Richard Eggleston, Darryl Lien, and David Printy, together with a related corporation, Daryl Lien, Inc., agreed to pay more than $28,000 in penalties and restitution for their shill bidding practices. In a complaint filed with the Consent Order, the Attorney General alleged that they placed 610 bids in 106 of their own auto auctions under the user ID "Mother's Custom Automotive NY Dealer." The Attorney General's office has identified more than 120 consumers who paid more for items as a result of shill bidding activities in the three cases. Settlements will provide compensation to these individuals. The damages are as high as several thousand dollars for some consumers. For example, in one auction, Schuster's New Windsor Gallery "shilled up" by more than $7,300 an oil painting attributed to Hudson River School artist Ralph Blakelock (1847-1919). The high bidder paid $7,500 for the painting. Another purported Blakelock fetched $3,000 ? shilled up by more than $2,800. The Gallery shilled up its auction of an antique cloisonne vase by more than $2,500 ? ultimately selling for $3,250. Yet another bidder was overcharged $2,372, for art work he purchased in over thirty separate auctions. In one of Daryl Lien Inc.'s online auctions, the high bidder for a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee overpaid by more than $3,000. In one of the Baranoviches' auctions, the purchaser of a bat signed by the 2000 New York Yankees paid $999 ? a sum shilled up $175 from its previous high bid of $824. The cases were handled by Stephen Kline of the Attorney General's Internet Bureau, Michelle Maerov of the Criminal Prosecutions Bureau, Howard Wettan of the Antitrust Bureau, and Kenneth Dreifach, who is Chief of the Internet Bureau. Hampton Finer, Chief Economist for the Antitrust Bureau, Vanessa Ip, Investigator for the Internet Bureau, and Brian Ford of the Investigations Bureau also assisted in these investigations.
Susan
Buena Park,#12Author of original report
Thu, July 20, 2006
Time for the latest update. Oh look, our friends came for a visit. I will first address their rebuttal and then follow up with the latest. First of all, their (notice the proper use of the word their, not there) opening statement should read.. The store on eBay is an affiliated store that sells our products instead of.. The store on ebay is an affiliated store that sales are products. I don't know anything about any affiliate store; my Paypal payment went to Don Holly, not Becky someone or anyone else. Don Holly. Secondly it appears they may have been suspended from eBay and if this is so, they are violating eBay policy if they are conducting business on another account. eBay policies on suspended accounts read A person suspended from eBay loses all membership privileges. A suspended individual is not permitted to participate on the eBay site using any existing account, or to register new accounts with eBay. A suspension from eBay may be for a fixed length of time, indefinite, or permanent. Suspensions remain in effect until removed by eBay. Thirdly, they claim to have been in business for years, I suppose that is possible, but the question would be selling what. They started selling mineral cosmetics on eBay in mid to late January 2006; they also had the buyer that I suspect of being their shill bidder leave their web address in her feedback, also a violation of eBay policy. Their feedback on eBay indicates they have had 430 customers give feedback, far from the thousands per month they report. Furthermore the 430 customer feedback includes 35 purchases from the buyer I suspect was shill bidding for them. Perhaps they were doing all of their sales through their website. Speaking of their web site, it is not complete to this date and the domain name was created March 17th, 2006 (translation.. They didn't even have a website prior to March 17th, 2006). Well, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt; maybe they have been peddling them around town as they claimed to on some of their auctions. Let's see...Goodman, MO..... Population (year 2000): 1,183. Estimated population in July 2004: 1,200 (+1.4% change) Males: 598 (50.5%), Females: 585 (49.5%) Median resident age: 36.2 years Median household income: $26,349 (year 2000) Median house value: $46,000 (year 2000) I suppose if every man, woman and child in town bought several items per month that could equate to thousands of sales (notice the proper use of the word sales, not sells) per month, but with median household income of $26,349 that wouldn't leave much for groceries. Fourth, they say they have 5 complaints, when in fact they have 7 and 3 neutral (in essence someone who wanted to give a negative but dare not least there be retaliation). While 5 are in the last month (3 in one day), their complaints go all the way back to January 2006. I feel certain that there would be many more complaints lodged against them if buyer didn't feel they were holding feedback over their head to insure that they get good feedback. I myself agonized over leaving them bad feedback for days, knowing that even though they deserved the bad feedback and I did not, that is exactly what I would get by giving it. Fifth, their employee's Father's death in July was not the first death their company reported to their customers; they reported to another buyer that there was a death in the family some time in June. What happened, did Becky's father die and then raise from the dead only to die again in July? What is more, as a professional company I don't think that one's incompetence (not exactly my thoughts on their method of doing business, but I'll stick with that) should be explained away with a death in the family. Sixth, they claim to continue to patent and produce and commercial their products worldwide. I was unaware that mineral make-up could be patented, isn't that like trying to patent lemonade? If it could be patented, wouldn't Leslie Blodgett already hold that patent? Perhaps they meant to say copy-right their website with its artwork, photos and content; if that be the case, I will comment on that another day And finally, they speak of wounds, I am certain they are licking theirs right now, especially now with the two other rip-off reports having been filed by two other buyers. OK, now on to the update.. July 13th, received this email from the buyer that I suspected of shill bidding for lbhdhch3. I have to ask a question,Used to have Unique Minerals as my wholesaler, well not anymore, but I read your feedback that she gave you and the ones you gave her and was wondering what your feedback meant? ..query lbhdhch3.. I cant beleive I am asking this but was it a gay thing? I am also exspecting retaliation on feedback. I guess curiosity killed the cat. Thanks , Kat I send this email back to the bidder I suspect of shill bidding for seller. Crystal/Becky/Whoever, Thank you for confirming what I have suspected for some time, that good ole bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller was an alter ego for you. It was pretty easy to figure out for the following reasons: 1. I didn't leave the feedback for you until after you had gone private. Good ol bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller couldn't see the fb unless she had access to your account. 2. The tale tell mis-use of grammar and the mis-spelled words were like a beacon. I appreciate the assistance in providing concrete evidence that I can now provide to eBay. What you are doing is called shill bidding and is against eBay policy. See (((ROR REDACTED LINK FOR SECURITY PURPOSES)))I also think that fourth upset buyer will be very interested in this information because you had bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller bid against her. Not too smart making bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller private the same time you made lbhdhch3 private. I so love the curiosity of that cat. By the way, query has nothing to do with being gay, get an education. I immediately file the following report to ebay: Customer concern: I have already turned this concern in once, but have further information that I feel proves my suspicion. I received this email from bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller: I have to ask a question,Used to have Unique Minerals as my wholesaler, well not anymore, but I read your feedback that she gave you and the ones you gave her and was wondering what your feedback meant? ..query lbhdhch3.. I cant beleive I am asking this but was it a gay thing? I am also exspecting retaliation on feedback. I guess curiosity killed the cat. Thanks , Kat You can check on it since it was sent through ebay. The proof is that I didn't leave the feedback for lbhdhch3 until after that had gone "private", therefore there is no way that bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller could have read it unless she had access to lbhdhch3's profile. I am not the only buyer having problems with this seller, please help us. I have encouraged the others to file similar complaints and I think that they have. The evidence against this seller should surely be racking up to the point that ebay will be forced to deal with these folks. We seem to notice a pattern on how the newest victims are being chosen..... We are all new to ebay and therefore do not know the ins and outs of dealing with a fraudulent seller. Please Please help us. Shortly after sending the email to bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller and filing the report I notice that the seller's profile is no longer private. They actually think that can fool eBay into thinking it was public and buyer suspected of shill bidding for seller could have seen the feedback I wrote. How stupid are these people, don't they realize that eBay can tell down to the millisecond when things happen on their site? Suddenly I start getting a barrage of email from other buyers who haven't received their product wanting to know what my experience was. July 14th, Receive this email from bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller My dear, what ego for me? you never left me feedback and I assure you that I have never purchased from you. I am baffled at who fourth buyer is but I wonder if you wrote the correct ebay member cause you mention my ebay ID several times. Is it me you are refering to as Good ol bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller ? Explain to me please Kat I send this email to bidder suspected of shill bidding for seller Not falling for it, please leave me alone. I want no further contact with you. July 15th, receive this email from eBay Customer service Hello, Thank you for writing to eBay. My name is Customer Service Rep, and I appreciate the chance to assist you regarding possible shill bidding. We are concerned about violations on the site and have thoroughly investigated your report. Please be assured that I have taken appropriate action in accordance with our site policies. Our actions may include temporary suspension, indefinite suspension or terminating the membership. I can confirm these members are no longer registered users and because privacy concerns are important to everyone on eBay, I'm not at liberty to discuss the details of another member's account. I hope that you understand our position in this situation. We also hope that it assures you that your personal account history will always remain private. I am committed to make your eBay experiences pleasant and fulfilling. Best wishes, Customer Service Rep While eBay will neither confirm nor deny they found shill bidding going on, both members are no longer registered. I think the conclusion can pretty well be summed up with a little logic. This all leads me to wonder if I have a civil case against lbhdhch3 for the difference between my last bid before buyer who I suspect is shill bidding for seller started to bid against me and what I ultimately paid. CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Crystal
Goodman,#13REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, July 17, 2006
Customer: Email: sjwise@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX User ID: isthisXXXXXXXXX3 Name: Susan City: Anaheim State: CA Country: United States Phone: (714) 736-xxxx Also known as: Susan BUENA PARK, CA 90621. Administrative Assistant Customer Purchase History:xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxx, ebay store: unique mineral cosmetics & more I am the owner of Unique Mineral Cosmetics at this time here is my statement. The store on ebay is an affiliated store that sales are products, we also have 4 other stores on ebay that sale our products 2 store owners are employees and 2 are private label owners that package our cosmetic's and sell under there private label. We have been in business for several years and never have had any trouble or complaints from our customers , until recently. One of the store sellers had some personal problems and had a lot on her shoulders and she neglected her duties, most customers were very supportive and some as you see have chosen to take there personal experiences to a level that they feel is suitable to soothe there wounds. We are not in anyway denying or admitting to any statements made in the report. As a professional Company with more than a thousand sales a month for several years and 5 complaints later we will strive and continue to patent and produce and commercial are products worldwide. Thank you for your time,
Susan
Buena Park,#14Author of original report
Tue, July 11, 2006
July 11, Apparently dear old dad was not the first person this clan has killed off to explain their slow shipments and mistakes. A fourth buyer has come forward with her story. Hi, thanks 4 writing, won an auction from them june 4th, bought eye makeup samples while i was waiting 4 delivery, bid on another auction {i yr supply again} didn,t win, thought: no biggy, she emailed with second chance offer next day , so i bought and pd right then, sent an inquiry regarding 1st order kept getting emails with sob stories and excuses about someones death?? more time passed while this was going on. was trying 2 get this in time 4 daughters bday in another state. didn,t work. when i finally figured out how 2 get a hold of paypal, it was over a month had passed, filed with them, i think, and one package came a couple of days later and the second a few days later, one yr supply was one bag of min makeup when the pic showed 3,4 different bags. one order was 39.99 for one bag?? i,m confused, pay pal hasn,t contacted me, over a week now, not sure what 2 do, a novice on the comp. thinking about selling mineral cosmetics myself. Fourth buyer name
Susan
Buena Park,#15Author of original report
Tue, July 11, 2006
July 11, Apparently dear old dad was not the first person this clan has killed off to explain their slow shipments and mistakes. A fourth buyer has come forward with her story. Hi, thanks 4 writing, won an auction from them june 4th, bought eye makeup samples while i was waiting 4 delivery, bid on another auction {i yr supply again} didn,t win, thought: no biggy, she emailed with second chance offer next day , so i bought and pd right then, sent an inquiry regarding 1st order kept getting emails with sob stories and excuses about someones death?? more time passed while this was going on. was trying 2 get this in time 4 daughters bday in another state. didn,t work. when i finally figured out how 2 get a hold of paypal, it was over a month had passed, filed with them, i think, and one package came a couple of days later and the second a few days later, one yr supply was one bag of min makeup when the pic showed 3,4 different bags. one order was 39.99 for one bag?? i,m confused, pay pal hasn,t contacted me, over a week now, not sure what 2 do, a novice on the comp. thinking about selling mineral cosmetics myself. Fourth buyer name
Susan
Buena Park,#16Author of original report
Tue, July 11, 2006
July 11, Apparently dear old dad was not the first person this clan has killed off to explain their slow shipments and mistakes. A fourth buyer has come forward with her story. Hi, thanks 4 writing, won an auction from them june 4th, bought eye makeup samples while i was waiting 4 delivery, bid on another auction {i yr supply again} didn,t win, thought: no biggy, she emailed with second chance offer next day , so i bought and pd right then, sent an inquiry regarding 1st order kept getting emails with sob stories and excuses about someones death?? more time passed while this was going on. was trying 2 get this in time 4 daughters bday in another state. didn,t work. when i finally figured out how 2 get a hold of paypal, it was over a month had passed, filed with them, i think, and one package came a couple of days later and the second a few days later, one yr supply was one bag of min makeup when the pic showed 3,4 different bags. one order was 39.99 for one bag?? i,m confused, pay pal hasn,t contacted me, over a week now, not sure what 2 do, a novice on the comp. thinking about selling mineral cosmetics myself. Fourth buyer name
Susan
Buena Park,#17Author of original report
Tue, July 11, 2006
July 11, Apparently dear old dad was not the first person this clan has killed off to explain their slow shipments and mistakes. A fourth buyer has come forward with her story. Hi, thanks 4 writing, won an auction from them june 4th, bought eye makeup samples while i was waiting 4 delivery, bid on another auction {i yr supply again} didn,t win, thought: no biggy, she emailed with second chance offer next day , so i bought and pd right then, sent an inquiry regarding 1st order kept getting emails with sob stories and excuses about someones death?? more time passed while this was going on. was trying 2 get this in time 4 daughters bday in another state. didn,t work. when i finally figured out how 2 get a hold of paypal, it was over a month had passed, filed with them, i think, and one package came a couple of days later and the second a few days later, one yr supply was one bag of min makeup when the pic showed 3,4 different bags. one order was 39.99 for one bag?? i,m confused, pay pal hasn,t contacted me, over a week now, not sure what 2 do, a novice on the comp. thinking about selling mineral cosmetics myself. Fourth buyer name
Susan
Buena Park,#18Author of original report
Sun, July 09, 2006
OK, now on the the latest, July 5th, They decide to mark their feedback comments as "private" with an explanation that bad buyers are contacting good buyers and harrassing them, no, that's not it.... Good buyers who have been shafted are contacting each other and comparing notes and the Hollys can't remember who they told what story to. I would never business with anyone who had marked their feedback as private. I would always wonder what they were hiding. July 7th they decided to kill off the Dad to make the story more believable, I check the obituaries for Goodman MO and there were 2 deaths and neither of them had a daughter named Becky. I finally decided to take the hit of bad feedback for the order that they cancelled on me on the 30th of June. Left the negative for them and then posted a reply on the positive feedback for the large order they did deliver for me speculating that they would leave negative feedback for me. I also filed a non-performing seller report with ebay. Another dissatisfied buyer and I watched and emailed each other as in one day the lbhdhch3 feedback rating when from 98.something to 96.5. I personally would never buy from a seller with that kind of score, hopefully there are other buyers who do check feedback scores and wonder what a seller is hiding when they make their feedback comments private. July 8th, It wasn't much of a speculation that they would post a negative for me even though I didn't deserve it. It was more of a bet, sure enough the minute they saw the negative I gave them, they posted a negative for me stating that I was: A complete mess to work with <><> Buyer cussed and emailed horrible harassing. I simply replied with: Had funds for 38 days then cancelled see feedback below. speaks for it's self. They look so stupid because the feedback they posted a few days earlier read: Very Sweet Customer <> <> Very Honest <> <> A+++++++++ Seller lbhdhch3(private) 9524202880. With my reply below it saying: Yes, cust honest and sweet, sell not so much. Watch neg fb come now retaliation. Excuse the cryptic reply, but you only have 80 characters to post. Emailed the Holly clan and told them that I would wear their negative post like a badge of honor and that people aren't as stupid as they think they are. As time has gone on I have thought more and more about how the auctions were conducted and the people that bid against me, and I now suspect that the Holly clan were practicing "Shilling". Shilling is where you have a family member or an alter-ego bid against the competition to up the bid price. The one auction that I did not win but instead quit bidding on, they sent a second chance notice stating that the winner of the bid either could not go through with the bid or they had duplicate items. If I wanted it for my final bid of $60.00 I could have it. I found that interesting at the time. Also on the large order one of their "regular" buyers stepped in and kept bidding until the price was high enough and then quit. I can't remember who was bidding against me in the $60.00 auction, but I think that I will ask ebay to check into that as well. Ebay definatly frowns on Shilling and the the Holly clan could lose their ebay privledges if found guilty of it. Funny thing is that when I went to check on the profile of their "regular" customer, she had marked her profile as private too. Hmmmmmm, why would a buyer mark their profile as private??? Many sellers will not deal with a buyer who is marked private. The timing just seems a little Coincidental. Becky's email killing off the Dad: To all my customers from ebay: I am so so sorry for your delayed package, I do not want to bother you with my excuse but whether you believe me or not I will tell you, my fathers battle with cancer had really hit its worst this past 2 weeks and I lost him Saturday and I have dedicated myself to him completely and I have fallen desperately behind on all my orders , I miss him much more than I could of ever imagined but, I am desperately trying to push all feelings aside and take care of my now top priority (my customers)... I am so sorry but to be honest about it is easier than telling lies or not letting customers know anything about there orders. I will understand if you are upset and I accept that with full responsibilities.. Thank you & I am sorry for a tiresome experience! Customer assistant w/Unique Minerals Becky Thank you, Welcome Back anytime! Business Contact [email protected] A quick Link to view your purchase or check on the status of your order click here: www.uniquemineralcoasmeticsbilling.com Or Go to home page: www.uniquemineralcosmetics.com Susan - Buena Park, California U.S.A.
Susan
Buena Park,#19Author of original report
Sun, July 09, 2006
OK, now on the the latest, July 5th, They decide to mark their feedback comments as "private" with an explanation that bad buyers are contacting good buyers and harrassing them, no, that's not it.... Good buyers who have been shafted are contacting each other and comparing notes and the Hollys can't remember who they told what story to. I would never business with anyone who had marked their feedback as private. I would always wonder what they were hiding. July 7th they decided to kill off the Dad to make the story more believable, I check the obituaries for Goodman MO and there were 2 deaths and neither of them had a daughter named Becky. I finally decided to take the hit of bad feedback for the order that they cancelled on me on the 30th of June. Left the negative for them and then posted a reply on the positive feedback for the large order they did deliver for me speculating that they would leave negative feedback for me. I also filed a non-performing seller report with ebay. Another dissatisfied buyer and I watched and emailed each other as in one day the lbhdhch3 feedback rating when from 98.something to 96.5. I personally would never buy from a seller with that kind of score, hopefully there are other buyers who do check feedback scores and wonder what a seller is hiding when they make their feedback comments private. July 8th, It wasn't much of a speculation that they would post a negative for me even though I didn't deserve it. It was more of a bet, sure enough the minute they saw the negative I gave them, they posted a negative for me stating that I was: A complete mess to work with <><> Buyer cussed and emailed horrible harassing. I simply replied with: Had funds for 38 days then cancelled see feedback below. speaks for it's self. They look so stupid because the feedback they posted a few days earlier read: Very Sweet Customer <> <> Very Honest <> <> A+++++++++ Seller lbhdhch3(private) 9524202880. With my reply below it saying: Yes, cust honest and sweet, sell not so much. Watch neg fb come now retaliation. Excuse the cryptic reply, but you only have 80 characters to post. Emailed the Holly clan and told them that I would wear their negative post like a badge of honor and that people aren't as stupid as they think they are. As time has gone on I have thought more and more about how the auctions were conducted and the people that bid against me, and I now suspect that the Holly clan were practicing "Shilling". Shilling is where you have a family member or an alter-ego bid against the competition to up the bid price. The one auction that I did not win but instead quit bidding on, they sent a second chance notice stating that the winner of the bid either could not go through with the bid or they had duplicate items. If I wanted it for my final bid of $60.00 I could have it. I found that interesting at the time. Also on the large order one of their "regular" buyers stepped in and kept bidding until the price was high enough and then quit. I can't remember who was bidding against me in the $60.00 auction, but I think that I will ask ebay to check into that as well. Ebay definatly frowns on Shilling and the the Holly clan could lose their ebay privledges if found guilty of it. Funny thing is that when I went to check on the profile of their "regular" customer, she had marked her profile as private too. Hmmmmmm, why would a buyer mark their profile as private??? Many sellers will not deal with a buyer who is marked private. The timing just seems a little Coincidental. Becky's email killing off the Dad: To all my customers from ebay: I am so so sorry for your delayed package, I do not want to bother you with my excuse but whether you believe me or not I will tell you, my fathers battle with cancer had really hit its worst this past 2 weeks and I lost him Saturday and I have dedicated myself to him completely and I have fallen desperately behind on all my orders , I miss him much more than I could of ever imagined but, I am desperately trying to push all feelings aside and take care of my now top priority (my customers)... I am so sorry but to be honest about it is easier than telling lies or not letting customers know anything about there orders. I will understand if you are upset and I accept that with full responsibilities.. Thank you & I am sorry for a tiresome experience! Customer assistant w/Unique Minerals Becky Thank you, Welcome Back anytime! Business Contact [email protected] A quick Link to view your purchase or check on the status of your order click here: www.uniquemineralcoasmeticsbilling.com Or Go to home page: www.uniquemineralcosmetics.com Susan - Buena Park, California U.S.A.
Susan
Buena Park,#20Author of original report
Sun, July 09, 2006
OK, now on the the latest, July 5th, They decide to mark their feedback comments as "private" with an explanation that bad buyers are contacting good buyers and harrassing them, no, that's not it.... Good buyers who have been shafted are contacting each other and comparing notes and the Hollys can't remember who they told what story to. I would never business with anyone who had marked their feedback as private. I would always wonder what they were hiding. July 7th they decided to kill off the Dad to make the story more believable, I check the obituaries for Goodman MO and there were 2 deaths and neither of them had a daughter named Becky. I finally decided to take the hit of bad feedback for the order that they cancelled on me on the 30th of June. Left the negative for them and then posted a reply on the positive feedback for the large order they did deliver for me speculating that they would leave negative feedback for me. I also filed a non-performing seller report with ebay. Another dissatisfied buyer and I watched and emailed each other as in one day the lbhdhch3 feedback rating when from 98.something to 96.5. I personally would never buy from a seller with that kind of score, hopefully there are other buyers who do check feedback scores and wonder what a seller is hiding when they make their feedback comments private. July 8th, It wasn't much of a speculation that they would post a negative for me even though I didn't deserve it. It was more of a bet, sure enough the minute they saw the negative I gave them, they posted a negative for me stating that I was: A complete mess to work with <><> Buyer cussed and emailed horrible harassing. I simply replied with: Had funds for 38 days then cancelled see feedback below. speaks for it's self. They look so stupid because the feedback they posted a few days earlier read: Very Sweet Customer <> <> Very Honest <> <> A+++++++++ Seller lbhdhch3(private) 9524202880. With my reply below it saying: Yes, cust honest and sweet, sell not so much. Watch neg fb come now retaliation. Excuse the cryptic reply, but you only have 80 characters to post. Emailed the Holly clan and told them that I would wear their negative post like a badge of honor and that people aren't as stupid as they think they are. As time has gone on I have thought more and more about how the auctions were conducted and the people that bid against me, and I now suspect that the Holly clan were practicing "Shilling". Shilling is where you have a family member or an alter-ego bid against the competition to up the bid price. The one auction that I did not win but instead quit bidding on, they sent a second chance notice stating that the winner of the bid either could not go through with the bid or they had duplicate items. If I wanted it for my final bid of $60.00 I could have it. I found that interesting at the time. Also on the large order one of their "regular" buyers stepped in and kept bidding until the price was high enough and then quit. I can't remember who was bidding against me in the $60.00 auction, but I think that I will ask ebay to check into that as well. Ebay definatly frowns on Shilling and the the Holly clan could lose their ebay privledges if found guilty of it. Funny thing is that when I went to check on the profile of their "regular" customer, she had marked her profile as private too. Hmmmmmm, why would a buyer mark their profile as private??? Many sellers will not deal with a buyer who is marked private. The timing just seems a little Coincidental. Becky's email killing off the Dad: To all my customers from ebay: I am so so sorry for your delayed package, I do not want to bother you with my excuse but whether you believe me or not I will tell you, my fathers battle with cancer had really hit its worst this past 2 weeks and I lost him Saturday and I have dedicated myself to him completely and I have fallen desperately behind on all my orders , I miss him much more than I could of ever imagined but, I am desperately trying to push all feelings aside and take care of my now top priority (my customers)... I am so sorry but to be honest about it is easier than telling lies or not letting customers know anything about there orders. I will understand if you are upset and I accept that with full responsibilities.. Thank you & I am sorry for a tiresome experience! Customer assistant w/Unique Minerals Becky Thank you, Welcome Back anytime! Business Contact [email protected] A quick Link to view your purchase or check on the status of your order click here: www.uniquemineralcoasmeticsbilling.com Or Go to home page: www.uniquemineralcosmetics.com Susan - Buena Park, California U.S.A.
Susan
Buena Park,#21Author of original report
Sun, July 09, 2006
OK, now on the the latest, July 5th, They decide to mark their feedback comments as "private" with an explanation that bad buyers are contacting good buyers and harrassing them, no, that's not it.... Good buyers who have been shafted are contacting each other and comparing notes and the Hollys can't remember who they told what story to. I would never business with anyone who had marked their feedback as private. I would always wonder what they were hiding. July 7th they decided to kill off the Dad to make the story more believable, I check the obituaries for Goodman MO and there were 2 deaths and neither of them had a daughter named Becky. I finally decided to take the hit of bad feedback for the order that they cancelled on me on the 30th of June. Left the negative for them and then posted a reply on the positive feedback for the large order they did deliver for me speculating that they would leave negative feedback for me. I also filed a non-performing seller report with ebay. Another dissatisfied buyer and I watched and emailed each other as in one day the lbhdhch3 feedback rating when from 98.something to 96.5. I personally would never buy from a seller with that kind of score, hopefully there are other buyers who do check feedback scores and wonder what a seller is hiding when they make their feedback comments private. July 8th, It wasn't much of a speculation that they would post a negative for me even though I didn't deserve it. It was more of a bet, sure enough the minute they saw the negative I gave them, they posted a negative for me stating that I was: A complete mess to work with <><> Buyer cussed and emailed horrible harassing. I simply replied with: Had funds for 38 days then cancelled see feedback below. speaks for it's self. They look so stupid because the feedback they posted a few days earlier read: Very Sweet Customer <> <> Very Honest <> <> A+++++++++ Seller lbhdhch3(private) 9524202880. With my reply below it saying: Yes, cust honest and sweet, sell not so much. Watch neg fb come now retaliation. Excuse the cryptic reply, but you only have 80 characters to post. Emailed the Holly clan and told them that I would wear their negative post like a badge of honor and that people aren't as stupid as they think they are. As time has gone on I have thought more and more about how the auctions were conducted and the people that bid against me, and I now suspect that the Holly clan were practicing "Shilling". Shilling is where you have a family member or an alter-ego bid against the competition to up the bid price. The one auction that I did not win but instead quit bidding on, they sent a second chance notice stating that the winner of the bid either could not go through with the bid or they had duplicate items. If I wanted it for my final bid of $60.00 I could have it. I found that interesting at the time. Also on the large order one of their "regular" buyers stepped in and kept bidding until the price was high enough and then quit. I can't remember who was bidding against me in the $60.00 auction, but I think that I will ask ebay to check into that as well. Ebay definatly frowns on Shilling and the the Holly clan could lose their ebay privledges if found guilty of it. Funny thing is that when I went to check on the profile of their "regular" customer, she had marked her profile as private too. Hmmmmmm, why would a buyer mark their profile as private??? Many sellers will not deal with a buyer who is marked private. The timing just seems a little Coincidental. Becky's email killing off the Dad: To all my customers from ebay: I am so so sorry for your delayed package, I do not want to bother you with my excuse but whether you believe me or not I will tell you, my fathers battle with cancer had really hit its worst this past 2 weeks and I lost him Saturday and I have dedicated myself to him completely and I have fallen desperately behind on all my orders , I miss him much more than I could of ever imagined but, I am desperately trying to push all feelings aside and take care of my now top priority (my customers)... I am so sorry but to be honest about it is easier than telling lies or not letting customers know anything about there orders. I will understand if you are upset and I accept that with full responsibilities.. Thank you & I am sorry for a tiresome experience! Customer assistant w/Unique Minerals Becky Thank you, Welcome Back anytime! Business Contact [email protected] A quick Link to view your purchase or check on the status of your order click here: www.uniquemineralcoasmeticsbilling.com Or Go to home page: www.uniquemineralcosmetics.com Susan - Buena Park, California U.S.A.
Susan
Buena Park,#22Author of original report
Mon, July 03, 2006
The correct name for the company should be Unique Mineral Cosmetics also sometimes they spell it Cosmetic's