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  • Report:  #149524

Complaint Review: NCO Financial Systems - Inter Alia - Horsham Pennsylvania

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- Forest Park, Georgia,
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NCO Financial Systems - Inter Alia
507 Prudential Road Horsham, 19044 Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-273 6816
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I haven't been delinquent in any account for 10 years. Nonetheless, I recently received a dunning letter for $5808.12, of which was $2620.96 interest/$3187.16 principal for an account that comes out of nowhere. It appears that I'm in the crosshairs of NCO Financial Systems, Inc. Welcome to the club, right ;)

I checked, doublechecked, and triple-checked my Credit Reports and account statements for the past 5 years and find no reference to the alleged "obligation" that NCO references. When I checked on the Internet, I fell across this website, among others, which leads me to believe that NCO hasn't learned the lesson of $1.5 million it was forced to pay on May 13, 2004.

I called the FTC and d/l'ed the complaint and consent decree. Gosh! It certainly sounds familiar to me. However, being a reasonable kind of guy, I decided that I didn't want to "jump on the hamster wheel" at their direction. I choose, instead, to turn it back on them.

Perhaps you can use this initial response form letter to "persuade" NCO to refrain from further contact without being confrontational. Here in Dixie (SE USA), we find that kindness and politesse often work wonders during times of crisis and distress, and it often calls out the wolves for who they are when the light of day is shone upon them.

Here is the text of my "tell me more" letter. I hope it yields the desired results and will keep everyone posted as events unfold. I'd like nothing more than to box these rats into their own self-painted corner, but would rather avoid the hassles involved in the process far more. Enjoy!!

___________________

July 11, 2005

NCO Financial Systems, Inc.

507 Prudential Road

Horsham, PA 19044

RE: Account # XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

NCO/Assignee of Chase Prov

Principal Amount: $3187.16

Interest Amount: $2620.96

Interest Rate: 7%

Total Balance: $5808.12

To Whom It May Concern*:

I am in receipt of your correspondence of July 2, 2005. I've scoured my financial records for the past 10 years and can find no evidence that this account, amount, and/or creditor has ever existed in my life.

Please provide me with documentation to substantiate that the account in question is a valid obligation on my part. Pursuant to the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), I am requesting that you supply me with the following information:

1) The name and corporate address of the original Creditor opening/servicing this account as well as the original account number associated with the balance in question;

2) The original date that payment status allegedly fell into a state of delinquency and the original Date of Last Activity (DLA) according to your records as reported to a major Credit Reporting Agency (Equifax, etc.);

3) The date that a civil complaint, if any, was initiated in a court of jurisdiction, including which court and the identity of the original plaintiff;

4) The date that such complaint, if any, was ejudicated including identity of the court and venue;

5) A certified, notarized copy of the judgement, if any, that enabled the process of satisfaction of the debt in question to proceed;

6) The date(s) that efforts to satisfy judgement, if any, were initiated, including any specific efforts that may have been undertaken by your organization, prior assignees, or others of interest in the matter, to notify me of the obligation you assert prior to your letter of 7/2/2005;

7) The date that your organization obtained this account information that enabled you to contact me in this matter, including the source that sold and/or transferred this information to your organization.

At no point prior to your letter of 7/2/2005 has anyone contacted me in an effort to collect upon this alleged debt. Your correspondence is the first knowledge that I have of this matter. Why your organization has chosen to attempt to collect funds from me to clear this account is beyond my comprehension.

FCRA guidelines require you to respond within 30 days from receipt of this missive. In the interim, you shall not report this account to any Credit Reporting Agency while this item is in dispute, or you will be in direct and willful violation of both the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), and the recent suit of USA v. NCO Group, Inc (FTC File No. 992-3012) settled in the Consent Decree of May 13, 2004 (US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania). See attached. Failure to respond within the designated timeframe may nullify any claim that you may have against me in this matter. I anxiously await your reply to clarify the facts at issue.

Sincerely

Daniel R. Bogdan

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I did have enough foresight to remove my phone/fax and e-mail contact from the header in my stationery, but in retrospect, I forgot to explicitly instruct them that the only form of contact that would be acceptable would be via US Postal Service, registered mail. Oh well, no need to re-invent the wheel, just tweak it to make it a bit better, right.

P.S. Did you wonder about the asterisk? Below my signature, I put a footnote which reads "This is an attempt to make a debt collector obey the law. Any information obtained will be used for that purpose."

The best defense is a good offense, it has often been said. I hope that my "shot across the bow" to NCO will be the end of this event in my life. Thanks for your website in revealing a seamy underbelly of this country's financial sector. Unfortunately,

I must also admit that it not outside of the realm of possibility that "someone" owes the amount in question and is apparently a deadbeat. NCO may not be without basis for filing a dunning letter, I suppose. All I ask, is that they get their facts straight before trying to shake me down.

Daniel

Forest Park, Georgia
U.S.A.

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3 Updates & Rebuttals

Patti

West Paterson,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
very worried because I am in the process of filling out mortgage papers for a new home

#2Consumer Comment

Mon, July 25, 2005

I am going through the same scenario with this company which has contacted me regarding a debt from over 15 years ago....I am sending the certified letter as stated on the site for validation of the debt etc...i am just very worried because I am in the process of filling out mortgage papers for a new home and I dont know if this will affect it. I had a copy of credit report run several months ago and all is clear with no collection or delinquent accounts listed. I have not heard from this creditor since the debt was resolved via bankruptcy over 10 years ago...all my debts were resolved through the bankruptcy when I had a very rough time and couldnt afford the hole someone dug me in but the bankruptcy dropped off my credit report 3 years ago and now I have a clean slate with all new very good credit...even granted credit from the creditor they are trying to collect money for.?!?!??!
Wondering how it affected your end


Steve

Tucson,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
You cite the wrong law

#3Consumer Suggestion

Fri, July 22, 2005

It's not Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) - It's Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).

I would have inserted into the first letter a statement that all future communication must be in writing. After receipt of your letter containing that statement, you can sue NCO for $1000 every time they call you. THAT will stop the phone calls real quick. (also a provision of FDCPA)


Daniel

Forest Park,
Georgia,
U.S.A.
The phone calls have started... and they haven't even gotten my letter yet!

#4Author of original report

Fri, July 22, 2005

Well the postal stamp ink had barely dried, and my phone has begun to receive recorded messages to contact someone "about a matter of personal business" at the same number as on NCO's demand letter, and oddly enough, another one at an 800 number that I don't recognize.

They have gotten the "signature required" letter, but the "signature" on the return receipt looks suspiciously like a "stamp" to me, rather than anyone's actual signature...

So, I sent them the "...don't contact me except by mail and prove I owe this debt by August 15th..." letter that I should have put into the original package.

I also found the Registered Agent here in the state of Georgia for NCO, and its stated business mission is all about how to make corporations display "good governance" in complying with their specific industry regulations, etc... almost like NCO has found 'em some good ole' boys who can help 'em through the law with a wink and a nudge...

Turns out, they got my credit report on 6/25 from TransUnion, and already had my phone number anyway.


Anyway, here's the text of the letter I sent. The local Registered Agent should most certainly have it by now, and I didn't have any calls waiting for me this evening when I got home from work...

All I want is something in writing from them to indicate where they get the impression that I owe money to them or anyone else. Like I said in the beginning, this is out of the blue, and gives me the creeps in that I feel like there are sharks circling around me, just waiting to strike.

________________________________

July 19, 2005

NCO Financial Systems, Inc.
c/o CT Corporation
1201 Peachtree Street, N.E.
Suite 1240
Atlanta, GA 30361

NCO Financial Systems, Inc.
507 Prudential Road
Horsham, PA 19044


RE: Account # XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
NCO/Assignee of Chase Prov
Principal Amount: $3187.16
Interest Amount: $2620.96
Interest Rate: 7%
Total Balance: $5808.12

To Whom It May Concern*:

Your organization has received my letter of July 11, responding to your demand letter of July 2, 2005. A copy of my letter of 7/11/05 is attached. As I await your written response to my request for you to validate the alleged debt in question, it has become apparent to me that your organization intends to pursue collection through telephonic contact, notwithstanding your lack of evidence that this is a legitimate debt on my part. I have received several messages upon my answering machine, some of which are directly traceable to your organization. I have kept a log and an audiotape of these messages to date for possible future use.

While this matter is in dispute, you are not to contact me at home or at my place of business in any effort to collect upon this alleged obligation. The only correspondence that I will accept from you will be via United States Postal Mail, registered, return receipt requested and requiring a signature. Any attempt to contact me via telephone is subject to monitoring and/or recording without any further notification to you.

You are hereby directed to immediately and permanently cease and desist in your efforts to contact me via telephone. If you or your organization continues to attempt to contact me by telephone, I shall consider it an effort to harass and intimidate me, and shall pursue my options accordingly.

Unless and until I am given adequate written proof that this obligation is indeed my responsibility, persuant to my letter of 7/11/2005, I shall consider your assertion to be an attempt to illegally extort funds from me via wire and/or postal fraud.

FCRA guidelines require you to respond to my request for debt validation information by August 15th. In the interim, you shall not report this account to any Credit Reporting Agency while this item is in dispute, or you will be in direct and willful violation of both the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), and the recent suit of USA v. NCO Group, Inc (FTC File No. 992-3012) settled in the Consent Decree of May 13, 2004 (US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania). See attached. Failure to respond in writing by August 15th may nullify any claim that you may have against me in this matter. I anxiously await your written reply to clarify the facts at issue.

Sincerely

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