I want to warn people, who are considering to set up an offshore company or foundation, that Offshore Companies International Ltd. Unit 1010, Miramar Tower, 132Nathan Rd, Tsimshatsui, Kowloon, Hongkong, T: +852 3069 162, E:[email protected], W:offshorecompaniesinternational.com is not as good as it looks on their website. After the first good impression it gives that is pretty much all good you'll get from them.
Patrick J. Flynn LL.B Solicitor and Attorney at Law, Head Consultant and the owner of the business (Pat), replies to your inquiries giving you a lot of information about the packages quickly, then Skype conversations are included in the fix to clear your questions and concepts about the formation. Soon Pat will push you into making a decision with an email with a Subject line: “Moving Forward” and if he feels that he has given you enough free information he would ask you for a deposit so he can keep advising you, which is fair enough. Then at some point his wife Alexandra Kment, Client Services Manager (both have different titles on their website), comes into the conversation clearly not informed about much of what was said during the conversation with Pat.
However, the worst part is not that they seem to lack communication between themselves, nor even the fact that they misplace your personal information, which in my case was the first reason to delay the registration (if they have ever had the intention to do it), which should have come out in two weeks. I have sent them the required personal information and the money on 6th January 2016 and until today, 21 February – the date I post this Fraud Report - they have not registered my foundation.
Bells started to ring even louder when they failed to reply to my request for information about the state of my foundation's registration sent on 2 Feb. 2016. An email from them came on the 10th Feb 2016 though, but to another email I sent them that same day with a Subject line: “Permission to Give Your Email Address to a Friend”. Of course, Pat allowed me to refer him to my friend sending me a brief reassurance that my registration will be out in 2-3 days. However, 9 days later nobody mentions anything about it so I send another email this time telling them how unhappy I was with their service and that I have no trust left in them, and informing them that I'll file a Fraud Report on a number of websites on 20 February 2016. The following day Alexandra Kment emails me to say that they need additional, unspecified number of days on top of the 19 days of silence, that still goes on to this moment, to solve an issue with my form.
I kindly asked for the correspondence with the compliance offices as a prove that they are actually in a process of registering my foundation, my money back or I'll take their silence as a permission to file this Fraud Report. And since you are reading it now you know that there was a complete silence again, no correspondence with the compliance offices was forwarded to me and of course no refund was made...
There must be companies out there that run their businesses honestly to a high business standard, but offshoreincorporate.com is not it.
#2Author of original report
Fri, April 01, 2016
[My Final Update]
The Company, OCI, has now resolved my complaint and apologised to my satisfaction, finalising this by providing me with a complete refund of all money paid by me. This complaint, therefore is now at an end.
#3Author of original report
Sun, March 27, 2016
(NOTE: This is my fourth [4th] update.)
Following Mr Flynn's inadequate reply to my request for a full refund, as a customer unhappy with his services , an option offered at least twice on his website [see screenshots of his site in my previous updates below], but which is totally denied in his contract [you can see it below too] and the startling lack of responsibility about his own actions by demanding me to remove my RipOff report at my cost and arrogantly appointing himself as my agent for the purpose, “... we will be deemed at law to have been appointed as your authorised agent for the limited and specific purpose of arranging for all negative articles published by you in reference to us on the Rip Off Report website or elsewhere to be removed from the internet at your cost.” [see this in a copy of his email from 26th March 2016 and screenshots too below]
This nonsense, I have already advised him, is strenuously rejected.
I now am faced, therefore, with no other option, but to make a Complaint about him to his local Brisbane Legal Service Commission about in an attempt to settle our dispute and to make more people aware of his ways of treating his customers. Later, if necessary, I also intend to make the Australian Newspapers aware of the issue. I remain dedicated to receiving a full refund, or at least, to make this a very expensive lesson for him. His intransigence in all of this merely serves to amplify the warnings to others who may consider using his services.
Subject:RE: Offer To Settle WP Date:Saturday, 26 Mar 2016 16:32 From: [my email address] |
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Dear Mr Flynn,
Thank you for your reply and offer to settle our dispute, which is once again inadequate and furthermore, with regard to the attachment of outrageous terms, you, thereby, again demonstrate a total lack of responsibility.
It makes no sense whatsoever for me to pay for the removal of my own RipOff report since even with your current email you give me yet another reason to post a further negative update. It would have made more business sense to keep your customers happy and quickly refund the money of anyone who is not satisfied with your services – exactly the way you consistently state on your website – in order to keep your reputation intact. Instead, you have drawn this matter out for a prolonged period unnecessarily.
It will seem even more questionable to anybody who might be looking to employ your services for you to ask me to say, “... (c) That the only reason your order took more time than the usual to process was on account of the “unusual” nature of your Foundation’s “business” activities...” considering your claim that you and your partners have a combined experience of 50 years to be able to promptly deal with any issue or at least to communicate it to me, which you have never mentioned in a normal follow-up correspondence.
My response, therefore, is as follows: I hereby notify you in unequivocal terms that the conditions you attempt to attach to your refund are not accepted and are, therefore, delete. For the avoidance of doubt, I also hereby notify you that you are not appointed as an agent for me in any manner regarding the removal of the RipOff Report. Any action you instruct will, therefore, be entirely at your own discretion and liability and you will be acting solely in your own interest.
The only thing I will accept now is my money refunded in full and the only thing I will post on the RipOff site, as soon I receive the money, is a Thank You note.
I have already started to fill out the Complaint Form to the Brisbane Legal Service Commission and have made some contacts with the main Australian newspapers.
I will now go on to update my RipOff report with my last email and your current one, as a reply to it, and whenever you choose to refund my payment I will discontinue all activity that currently causes you grief, at least that part which is then within my power so to do. As for the Press, they will make their own judgements if matters are deferred further. The time for you to act is now, or this matter goes to the next stage without further recourse to you.
Yours sincerely
[my name]
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From: "Offshore Companies International" <[email protected]>
To: <my email address>
Subject: RE: Offer To Settle WP
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:10:43 +1000
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#4Author of original report
Mon, March 21, 2016
NOTE: This is my third [3rd] update. I'm clarifying this since due to a technical error the order of the updates is chronologically incorrect.
The 1st one I posted was under the dictate of Mr. Flynn. It is titled, “From the Author of This Complaint”, SUBMITTED: Monday, February 22, 2016
The 2nd one is titled, “I Was Made to Write My Previous Update & A Diary Calendar of the Event”, SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 10, 2016
In my current update I post Mr Flynn's emails demanding me to use various companies to remove my original RipOff report as a way to remedy his reputation, the texts he wants me to sign and demands he makes to me, followed by my reply to them too.
I upload 10 screenshots of the original emails, I've copied here, right at the end of this post.
Subject:FW: Fix Bad Reviews/Links Date:Sunday, 20 Mar 2016 01:37 From:"Offshore Companies International" <[email protected]> To: |
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Here’s another firm who has offered to help clean up the mess you made… per
my previous email feel free to contact them on our behalf
Kind regards
Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B
Solicitor and Attorney at Law
Head Consultant
Tel: +852 30691620
Skype: kmentfly_alex
<http://www.offshoreincorporate.com/> www.offshoreincorporate.com
<mailto:[email protected]>
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International ie non-local Corporate, Trust or Foundation structure (or
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From: Holly Bell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:47 AM
Subject: Fix Bad Reviews/Links
Hello,
My name is Holly Bell Online Reputation Specialist from Los Angeles.
I was doing some research on some of your competitors when I came across
your website through Ripoff Report and noticed that you have some issues
regarding
* Negative Review
* Bad Comment
* Negative Links
If you want to clean up your online reputation, just send us the
individual/business name and the specific links/reviews you need suppressed
and I'll send you our prices, strategy and timeline.
Looking Hearing from you
Thanks & Regards,
Holly Bell | Online Reputation Specialist
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“Without Prejudice Save as To Costs”
[my name],
You still don’t get it..
The only reason I had to get involved in the drafting of the Charter was due
to the unusual nature of your Foundation’s business activities” .
So the truth is that the registration was delayed solely on account of the
unusual nature of your Foundation’s business activities.
I’m prepared to give you back half your money now as a good faith gesture
(email me your bank ac details please).
And I will repay the balance once (a) you’ve signed a statement
acknowledging that the sole reason the registration of your Foundation was
delayed was on account of the unusual nature of your Foundation’s business
activities and (b) all the defamatory material has been removed from the
internet.
FYI I’ve received no less than 3 offers from Companies offering to help with
the defamatory material. (Assuming one or more of them can have the
defamatory material removed) I hereby authorise you as our agent to
communicate with and engage any of those companies on our behalf..
Kind regards
Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B
Solicitor and Attorney at Law
Head Consultant
Tel: +852 30691620
Skype: kmentfly_alex
<http://www.offshoreincorporate.com/> www.offshoreincorporate.com
<mailto:[email protected]>
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From: [my email]
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: LEGAL COMMUNICATION
Dear Mr Flynn
Thank you for your message dated the 11th March 2016. I am grateful to
notice that the irate tenor has abated somewhat. However, I do regret to
advise you that I remain convinced that the faults which have caused this
whole conflict between us have originated entirely from yourself; therefore,
I see no credible argument for me to take the steps you wish me to do. All
that I am seeking is the promised repayment of my fees paid to you for a
service which you were clearly failing to provide. Indeed, your own staff
has presented me with the evidence of that since, during a period when you
had personally indicated to me directly that my incorporation would be
available within two to three days, your staff inform me that this was
within a very busy period for you and they apologise on your behalf. Even
on the eve of me preparing to post my evidence to the RipOff website, and
had advised you of my imminent action, you actually ignored my email,
thereby confirming to me that my business, at the very least, was of
secondary importance to you. I had no other way open to me to get a direct
response from you if you make that kind of choice as to who you will respond
to and who you will ignore.
For me, therefore, to contact these “guys” you have recommended to me, would
simply be an admission that I thought I was at fault. I do not believe that
I am, and I remain convinced that you have let me down and, not only broken
your promises to me, but have also breached your own contract terms since
you have failed to keep me advised of the progress you were making on my
behalf by simply not actually answering any questions I asked of you,
whereas, over the entire period since the 6th January 2016, whenever any
information was requested off me, I responded immediately. I, by contrast,
was kept in the dark about your own lack of progress, only to find out
eventually, that you had been otherwise engaged on alternative clients’
business.
Normally, I would have thought that any responsible professional, regardless
of their field, would have contacted a client in a similar position as
myself, and stated clearly that they were extremely busy and would
appreciate it if I would understand and permit them to vary the eventual
delivery of my project. This would have been a much more acceptable
strategy to have followed since I had not specified any particular deadline
for my own needs nor you have allowed any in your own Order Form. In that
way, you could have carried on with a clear conscience, working on the
obviously much larger business projects to earn the thousands of dollars
which you have stated my advices to the RipOff website was now upsetting.
This has been, for me, a most disappointing outcome to all of my hopes and
plans. I will, of course, have to make alternative arrangements, but I have
to confess to you that you have managed to destroy any feelings of trust
that I had in you to the extent that, to put matters simply, even if I were
to do as you ask regarding the removal of the RipOff Report, I do not
believe that you would actually repay my fees, irrespective of the claims on
your website.
I also do not see why I should have to pay any other party to arrange for
this as well, since I did not give rise to the reasons for the necessity for
that Report. Instead, since these “guys” claim to be able to do it for you,
may I suggest that you appoint them directly.
In the meantime, and for the foreseeable future, I shall maintain my claim
for a full repayment of my fees and will reserve my right to pursue this
commercially via any medium which affords me the opportunity to do so.
Whether or not these people can erase all Google records, I have no way of
knowing, but then again, even if they do, there are other equally credible
websites which function in the same manner as the RipOff website. I have the
evidence from your staff in email form, and I also have in printed form,
your belligerent Skype messages to me to coerce an apology from me. Both
forms of evidence present a clear defence regarding where the fault in all
of this actually lies, and I also do believe, therefore, that if you can
treat me in this manner, you can also do that to any other client, so it
remains in the public interest to continue until I obtain the proof that
your promise on your OCI website that any client who is not 100% satisfied
will be given a full refund of fees paid is honoured. I hereby notify you,
therefore, if it is not already clear to you, that I am not satisfied.
Whether or not you can manage to instruct your staff to alter the meaning of
the emails they sent me or not, I have the originals and they give me
grounds to act as I have, to the best of my knowledge and belief, that you
were failing to act for me and instead, you were busy on other client
operations. That, of course, is your professional right, however, by
choosing to ignore my valid enquiries, you yourself, caused the breakdown in
our relationship and led me to believe that you were simply operating a
scam. The actual timing of this concluding piece of evidence, regrettably,
did not arise until after the posting of my original RipOff Report so at
that stage, I was convinced that you were operating a scam. Later, with the
emails I have referred to, I can modify my stance a little, although they
still do not reflect any great evidence to the contrary since they require
me to actually believe that you were extremely busy on other matters.
Mr Flynn, if your staff emails are to be believed, we are both clearly, very
busy people and I have no wish to continue this matter unnecessarily, so
what I will promise you is that when you do eventually repay my fees, I will
discontinue any further activity of the type which is now causing you
aggravation. Until that time, I shall reserve the right to seek redress
until my demands are met in full.
Yours sincerely
Reply to your email Subject: “LEGAL COMMUNICATION”, dated 17th March 2016.
Dear Mr Flynn,
I have no reason to believe in your statement that you would refund 50%
after I have signed whatever you want me to and thereafter the other 50%
since you have failed to deliver on any of your promises including nothing
positive came after I have followed your demand for posting your words, as
my own words of retraction, in the first update. I have nothing more to
negotiate with you.
As I have mentioned in my second RipOff update titled, "I Was Made to Write
My Previous Update & A Diary Calendar of the Event", 10th March 2016, I only
want you to honour your words, given to all your potential customers, on
your website, in front of the whole world, for a full refund to an
unsatisfied customer. As soon as I receive it I will discontinue any further
activity of the type which is now causing you aggravation.
Alternatively, on Monday, 21st March 2016, I am going update my RipOff
report with your last two emails: FOLLOW UP, 11th March 2016, where you
suggested to me to use some company to remove my report, and the one from
17th March 2016 "LEGAL COMMUNICATION" together with my replies to both of
them. Then, when I see the update live, I'll send a complaint about you to
Brisbane Legal Service Commission and write to the main Australian
newspapers too.
Yours sincerely
[my name]
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From: "Offshore Companies International"
To:
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Subject: LEGAL COMMUNICATION
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:10:37 +1000
“Without Prejudice Save as To Costs”
Dear [my name],
I note I received no reply to my previous email ie of 11 March 2016 (copied
below, scroll down).
Moreover I note that you have, to date, failed to remove from the world
wide web the false defamatory articles as requested by us/me.
It seems as if we have reached a “Mexican Stand Off”.
It would appear that you are (despite previously having acknowledged in
writing that OCI is in no way at fault for the delayed Foundation
registration) unwilling and/or unable to remove the defamatory material from
the internet.
So that we might both move on with our lives and (so that you might avoid
having to pay legal costs and damages as a consequence of the law suit I
have asked our Lawyers to file against you in Hong Kong) I’m proposing a
compromise solution as follows, namely:
1. That you email us to advise that you agree with the terms of, and
are prepared to sign (provided we meet the below terms), the attached
affidavit
2. That you withdraw, and provide us with proof that you have
withdrawn, any professional complaint as may have been made against this
firm or any staff member thereof
3. Upon receiving the above-referred email/proof we will forthwith
refund you half (ie 50% of) the money you have paid us to date
4. That, once we provide proof that we have made the above payment, you
sign the attached affidavit and email it to us
5. Forthwith upon receiving via email the signed affidavit we will
refund you the balance of monies paid to us (ie the remaining 50%)
6. Upon receiving the balance of monies paid to us you will publish on
the Riff Off Report website and any other websites where you may have posted
defamatory information as regards, or critical of, myself and/or OCI, a
complete retraction and apology on terms satisfactory to us.
This offer remains open for acceptance for a period of 48 hours only after
which time same shall automatically lapse.
I should also respectfully point out that the Terms and Conditions WHICH YOU
SIGNED (and which I note provide for NO refunds) take priority as a matter
of law over any terms or offers as may have been published on the website or
elsewhere prior to your having signed the order forms. (If you doubt what I
say in this regard I suggest you seek advice from a law firm asap, (in Hong
Kong , as the agreement is governed by HK law).
As such any attempts to extract monies from us are baseless in law.
Consequently, I should warn you, as a matter of law, that any request by you
that we pay you money under threat of pubic vilification etc almost
certainly constitutes the commission of a crime on your part under
International Law (eg cyber fraud and or extortion and/or etc).
We would advise you to seek independent legal advice from a Hong Kong Law
Firm as a matter of urgency.
Kind regards
Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B
Solicitor and Attorney at Law
In House Legal Counsel
Tel: +852 30691620
Skype: kmentfly_alex
<http://www.offshoreincorporate.com/> www.offshoreincorporate.com
<mailto:[email protected]>
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in your home state regarding, and before you commit to establish, any
International ie non-local Corporate, Trust or Foundation structure (or
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From: Offshore Companies International
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2016 5:35 PM
To: < my email >
Subject: Follow Up
Hi [my name],
Just a courtesy follow up to inquire as to whether you have removed the
defamatory article that you arranged to be published on the nett.
Per my previous offer as soon as the offending article is removed from the
web and an apology is published as per the text advised we will refund your
money in full.
FYI I note you claimed some time back that you couldn’t remove the article
from the nett. See below email received which clearly suggests you do have
the power to remove the article. If you are truly having trouble removing
the article I suggest you contact these guys as they offer “offer several
options for removal of false reports, and bad reviews ranging from
suppression campaigns, to full removal from Google.”
Meanwhile we reserve our rights generally.
Kind regards
Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B
Solicitor and Attorney at Law
Head Consultant
Tel: +852 30691620
Skype: kmentfly_alex
<http://www.offshoreincorporate.com/> www.offshoreincorporate.com
<mailto:[email protected]>
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I have, once again I believe, been misled by OCI and, although, through coercion, I had posted a form of retraction, feel compelled to reinstate, in part at least, my warning for others to take care in dealing with this Company based in Hong Kong. These matters have led to a profusion of messages between myself and their Mr Flynn who claims to be acting as their Head Consultant.
I do, however, wish to clarify one aspect of these dialogues. Mr Flynn has accused me of defaming his reputation. This was not, however, something which I ever set out to do, although I believe if such were to be the case, the actual evidence would speak for itself. If defamation has actually been experienced by Mr Flynn, it can only be because of the reality exposed from the attached accounts and the evidence from his own staff. I will highlight only one or two aspects of this Defence against his claim within this short section, but at this point, what I wish to emphasise is my conclusion that this matter is in the public interest on two accounts. These are that potential future clients of OCI, Hong Kong, should be wary since there is no doubt that my own approach to dealing with this company has been naïve. My warning, therefore, is directed towards such potential future clients of OCI not to be as naïve as I was. Secondly, there is, I believe, a potential risk to the Government and People of Hong Kong itself if such business practices which I have experienced in my naivety, were to become more commonplace with the possible denigration of that Jurisdiction becoming tainted by default.
As to the actual evidence, let me just highlight two elements within the section titled “My Diary Calendar”. On the 10th February, Mr Flynn emailed me to tell me, amongst other things, that my incorporation would be completed “within 2 – 3 days”. However, on the 21st February, his assistant, Alexandra, emailed me to inform me that the Compliance Officer in the Seychelles had been trying to get Clause 8 clarified since the 12th January. She also then explained that over the whole period – described as a long delay in email exchanges - Mr Flynn had been extremely busy – and presumably, therefore, was unable to actually attend to my business for which he had required an up-front-fee.
In other words, when he was actually telling me that it should be completed within 2 – 3 days, he already knew that he must have been behind in his agreed programme of completion to start with, and then continued thereafter, to simply ignore my messages, thereby ultimately destroying the trust I had placed in him, as I state above, naïvely.
Let me expand a bit on this naivety. This organisation claims, in its Terms and Conditions of Business, to be a Limited Company by the name of Offshore Companies International Limited, also Trading as offshoreincorporate.com. He himself, lists his position as In House Counsel. In fact, when you look up this actual website, you will find no actual personnel being identified, nor is it made clear that it is actually a limited liability company. There are no directors, officers of the company, executives, managers , or even functional roles being mentioned within any web-page describing the organisations structure or business methodology.
Because of Mr Flynn's LinkedIn business profile I have been able to identify where he is actually resident and practicing law. Indeed, his photo-image on that website is exactly the one on his Skype account and as Irecollect his face during the initial Skype discussions we had at the outset prior to me signing his contract and sending his fee for the total service I wished. Our discussions had been friendly and he seemed to be most encouraging about my needs, convincing me that his stated modus-operandi on the OCI website was genuine. I now know that what I should have done is take his proffered contract to another legally trained person who, I have little doubt, would recommend either changes to some of the terms or a simple rejection of it. For example, their Clauses 9 and 23 seem to absolve them of any responsibility for any failures whatsoever. That is a flaw in my own approach, therefore, that I encourage others not to make.
As matters progressed, it became clear that there was no apparent professional skill available within OCI other than those of Mr Flynn. Indeed, each of the three testimonials referred to within that site only describe his personal services two out of that very small number appear to have closed their websites so references from them would be difficult anyway. Furthermore, on his personal profile on Linkedin, he describes his role in OCI as consultative. However, this is a limited company, yet here we have a “consultant” who actually gives instructions and executive commands to the staff. If he is not, therefore, a company director, I submit there are grounds to believe that he is, at least, by his actions, functioning there as a Shadow Director.
To sum up, this updated notice is provided to attempt to clarify what has become for me, a bit of a nightmare since it has been extremely difficult to actually work out what is truly going on, regardless of the occasional information request which I did receive and responded to with immediate answers. I am left with the query in my own mind as to exactly who I have been dealing with and in what actual capacity have those dealings been transacted? In the meantime, since I know where he is actually based and the specific Law Society which would have the role of overseeing ethical matters for such professionals I have already been advised by them that I should actually contact The Legal Services Commission instead to establish their views on all of this. This particular dispute, has, however, been aired on the internet because it has arisen from that source directly and the company, OCI, provides its services via that medium. It is appropriate, therefore, for potential Clients of OCI to be able to review the history and experiences of others regarding any service which demands a full, up-front payment before any work commences. If this notice serves any useful purpose to others, then I shall be satisfied.
I now post some of my correspondence with Mr Flynn [see screenshots below]. You will also see, among the screenshots, his Skype “Legal” threats with the “appropriate” faces to emphasise on his point. I also share how he made me post my previous update – emails full of threats, including JAIL [See a copy of this email “Subject:RE: LEGAL NOTICE”, at the bottom of this document, if I fail to remove the original fraud report I wrote about him.
Naturally, I apologise to the reader for the length of my submission, but by doing this, I wish to impress upon you the lengths I have gone to, and my patience with this man, as I tried to follow and complete all of his guidance and recommendations – but all to no avail.
I also quote some of the most attractive promises, he makes on his website, about a superb professional service, delivered on time or the client's money back, in full, if they are not 100% satisfied with his service.
Last but not least, I copy his own “Business Terms and Conditions”, at the end of this document, which actually emphasise his own lack of any responsibility and stress instead, that “even if he is at fault, he cannot be held accountable under any circumstance”.
MyDiary Calendar:
I sent an email to Mr Patrick J Flynn, “Moving Forward Final” confirming that the payment has been sent, sending an image of the SWIFT and the outstanding paperwork, 6 January 2016.
I received a reply to this email from Alexandra Kment on 8 January 2016.
Alexandra sent me a courtesy email about the given go ahead of my foundation's registration, 10 January 2016.
An unsigned email mentioning that there are, I quote, “a few small issues” arrived on 11 January 2016.
A signed by Alexandra email, about the same minor issues, arrived on 12 January 2016.
Later on the same day, 12 January 2016, another email with a few more issues came from Alexandra.
Alexandra informed me that the foundation name I suggested was available on 17 January 2016.
I sent an email Subject: ANY NEWS, on 2 February 2016. [Got no reply.]
I sent another email to another email address Subject: “Permission to Give Your Email Address to a Friend” on 10 February 2016.
I received a reply from Mr Flynn the same day, 10 February 2016, granting me permission to give his email address to my friend also saying that my foundation will be ready “within 2-3 days” once I have supplied instructions “re clause 8 of the Charter”.
I have sent my reply instructions re: clause 8 the same day, 10 February 2016.
[One Point of Note: We were using two different email service providers and I've noticed that there's a discrepancy between the dates. The email I sent first, on one email account, carried the back date of 11 February 2016, while the reply I got from Mr Flynn he sent to the other email account carried the previous date of 10 February 2016.]
Mr Flynn sent his apology for the “radio silence” on 11 February 2016 with the explanation that he's been haggling with compliance office about the wording in clause 8.
I sent a reply back to him the same day, 11 February 2016.
I sent an email Subject, “Please Acknowledge”, on 19 February 2016, asking them what else they need in order to register my foundation and stating that I was unhappy that they were significantly beyond the stated usual time of two weeks. [Got no reply.]
I sent them an email Subject: “URGENT!” on 20 February 2016 expressing my disappointment with their service; asking them for a complete, realistic picture of my foundation's registration, and also saying that under the circumstances I'm not sure I want to work with them any longer because, I quote, “the trust's gone”, and finally, warning them that if they don't send me an adequate reply I'll start to send a fraud report to a number of websites (I listed them for their information) on 21 February 2016. [Got no reply.]
I posted my fraud report on 21 February 2016.
Alexandra then replied saying “I understand that you must be very frustrated and upset...” and sent me copies of their communication with the Compliance Office to show me (to try to build trust back I've requested to forward them to me), that work on my foundation has been done on 21 February 2016. It became clear that the Compliance Officer had been trying to get clause 8 clarified since 12 January 2016, which by 25 February 2016, when I sent my last email, had passed 44 calendar days.
Alexandra also points out at the end of her email, “I can see that there was a long delay in email exchanges which coincided with Pat being extremely busy. The clause of the charter should have been merged and sent to the legal department a lot earlier as it did. I will discuss this matter internally and will see what we can do to compensate you for the time lost. But first we need to get the foundation registered asap. I will revert to you in a few hours.”
The same day, 21 February 2016, I replied to Alexandra stating that 10 days ago Mr Flynn informed me that the foundation will be ready with 2-3 days of receiving my reply, which I sent on 11th February 2016. [Because of the date discrepancies of the two different email providers the reply may have been sent on 10th January 2016.]
Alexandra sent me an email back saying, “Please approve the attached charter” on 22 February 2016.
Then Mr Flynn takes over the conversation from Alexandra with threat “... Please also note I have engaged Lawyers to sue you for your defamatory comments unless the above post is not removed WITHIN 24 HOURS and a public apology is published” and that the delay was “ENTIRELY” my fault, on 22 February 2016.
The same day, 22 February 2016, I replied, “I should have been the first person to contact to clarify the matter and generally work with me to put all things right.”
Mr Flynn replied,
“"Without Prejudice"
Dear ...,
Further to my below email on a without prejudice basis provided you:
(1) remove the below-referred post within 24 hours; and
(2) within 24 hours publish a public notice in its place stating (a) that your complaint has been resolved and (b) that you were mistaken and were not aware that delays with your order were caused by factors beyond the control of Offshore Companies International we will refund your money in full within 48 hours of receiving proof that (1) and (2) above have been fulfilled.
Please note both the company and foundation order forms as signed by you provide in clause 9 that "Any fees paid to OCI are non-refundable" Please understand at law therefore we are not obliged to return your money regardless of what happens.
Nevertheless we are prepared to do you the huge favor of refunding yourmoney as we have formed the view, by reference your actions, that you do not want us to act for you and that we no longer wish to assist you.
Meanwhile I will ask Alexandra to forward you copies of emails forwarded to and received from the registration agents in Seychelles proving the delays herein were as a result of the unusual nature of your proposed Foundation's activities and beyond our control.
This offer remains open for acceptance up to 12 midnite GMT today 22 February after which time same shall automatically lapse.”
Shortly after that, on 22 February 2016, he changes his mind and stated “Unless or until such time as (a) you remove this post and (b) confirm it has been removed WE WILL DO NO FURTHER WORK ON YOUR FILE.”
Then, the same day, 22 February 2016, Mr Flynn sent an email to Alexandra and his partner Vanessa, CC me too, “Vanessa/Alexandra, Please stop work on this Foundation until you receive further notice from me.”
Also on 22 February 2016, I sent an email Subject: “AS PROMISED” where I informed Mr Flynn, Alexandra and Vanesa that I've updated my report with the required, by Mr Flynn, line “... 1. Forward the requested by me correspondence with the Compliance Officer.
2. Confirm that you are willing to improve communication with me, which was the cause of our issue:
a) You will inform me of anything related to my future business activities and will forward any correspondence concerning me or my business within maximum of 48 hrs of receiving it so I can also respond accordingly in timely manner.
b) you will acknowledge my emails (send me a line of courtesy reply) even if you are not in a position to give me a complete answer to whatever might be the matter as soon as you have read it.
3. Or refund my order within the next 48 hours. (time suggested by you)
Alternatively, I will update the report with your recent threat emails, which will reflect how you got me to post my positive comment...”
The same day, 22 February 2016, he also sent an email to his accountant, Madhavi, CC'd me saying, “...As soon as you have written proof that the complaint has been removed from the internet please refund all money paid by her to us in full thanks...”
The same day, 22 February 2016, I emailed Mr Flynn to tell him that due to the RipOff Report website's conditions I'm unable to remove the report, but instead we can work towards improving their business image by posting a positive update. [Got no reply.]
A few minutes later, that same day, 22 February 2016, I sent them another email Subject, “GRATITUDE” suggesting a possible, positive text to update my report with. [Got no reply.]
I sent an email to “Mr Flynn, (Alexandra, Madhavi and Vanessa),” Subject: “URGENT II” on 25 February 2016 telling them that it has been over two days since my last email without receiving even an acknowledgement from them. I have explained that I'm a customer of their company who has been badly treated and that everything that had attracted me on their website to do business with them, has been misleading in my experience. I pointed out that their delay to deliver my order in 1 month and 18 days was blamed on me when, as they state on their website, they have 50+ years of professional experience that should not have a problem to do their work properly and in a timely manner, particularly since, from my first briefing as to my intentions, it was Mr Flynn who was specifying the particular choices and methodologies required. I went on to quote, in screenshots, parts of their site that talk about “Superior Professionalism”, “ethical Professionals”, “... there is almost a complete absence of quality providers in the market place”, “...there are plenty of firms on the web who will sell you an Offshore Company or an IBC. But how many have the experience, the knowhow or the professionalism to provide reliable...”, their great company “MISSION”, and “OUR QUALITY ASSUREDSERVICE SYSTEM”, their superb philosophy stating that “the customer is king”, who is always right and always gets what they want, that they make sure the work is delivered when the customer needs it, and it was written at least twice, on their website, that if you as a customer are not completely satisfied with their job they will refund your money in full.
As stated above, I had asked them to refund my money in full since they had failed to deliver their work, even after a month and 18 days, also saying that I was expecting a positive reply by 25th February 2016 after which I've promised to update my report with the text from the email Subject: “GRATITUDE” sent to them on 22 February 2016. I reminded them that I had warned them, in an email Subject, “URGENT!” of my intentions to post a fraud report about them, on 20 February 2016, and that with the current email I informed them again of my intention to update my report, I quote my words, “with our email rally from 22nd February 2016 and the threats you've used to get me to post a positive update.” I concluded that email by saying, “Please, show the Superior, ethical Professionalism, you've promised, and let's put a mutually beneficial end to our business dispute for I do not want anything outside of what you have already, initially offered me – your customer - in front of the world, on your website, which is: the job done on time, to the 100% of your customer's satisfaction, or a full refund.”
Mr Flynn replied the same day, 25 February 2016, with even greater threats, “You could end up (a) losing everything you have and/or (b) being locked up in jail for a very long time.”
My reply to this was a simple, “Thank You” the same day, 25 February 2016.
The following are copies of Mr Flynn's emails ramping up the threats from suing me, “We are entitled to sue you for those last sales. This could potentially cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars” to “It seems you have no idea of how much trouble you are in. You could end up (a) losing everything you have and/or (b) being locked up in jail for a very long time.” and a copy/past of our last hit-reply-email-thread.
I have prepared 68 visuals, but encountered a restriction and I was able to upload only 10 of them.
Subject: Re: The [name of the ordered] Foundation Date:Monday, 22 Feb 2016 08:08 From:"Offshore companies international" <[email protected]> To: [my email] |
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Dear [my name],
Your below counter offer is rejected.
Unless or until such time as (a) you remove this post and (b) confirm it has been removed WE WILL DO NO FURTHER WORK ON YOUR FILE.
Please also note I have now formally instructed the Lawyers to prepare the law suit writ to sue you for your defamatory comments and they will proceed to file the suit unless, as advised, the post in question is removed WITHIN 24 HOURS and a public apology is published.
The delays in this matter have been ENTIRELY caused by the unusual and contraversial nature of your "business" activities. The emails comms between us and the registration agent,which have been disclosed or will be disclosed to you this prove this beyond all reasonable doubt.
I put you on notice that every hour the post remains you are causing us damage ie lost sales.
We are entitled to sue you for those last sales. This could potentially cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you doubt what I am telling you I suggest you seek independent legal advice as a matter of urgency.
No further correspondence will be entered into until the offending post is removed.
All liability our end is denied.
Again I suggest you seek independent legal advice as a matter of urgency.
Meanwhile we reserve our rights generally.
Yours sincerely
Patrick J. Flynn, LL.B Solicitor As In House Counsel for Offshore Companies International Limited Trading as www.offshoreincorporate.com |
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Thank you, Pat. [my initial]. :-)
-------- Original Message -------- From: "Offshore Companies International" <[email protected]> To: <[my email]> Cc: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: RE: LEGAL NOTICE Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:04:41 +1000
> > > Dear [my name], > > > > I write in reference to your below referred email. > > > > Nothing has changed since the last email I sent you. > > > > I/we will not pick up a pen to assist you nor refund your money until the defamatory article is taken down from the internet. If you want us to serve you or if you want us to refund your money you need to arrange for the article to be removed forever from the internet. THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE. > > > > I don t buy into the suggestion that it can t be removed. You arranged for it to be published. Hence it s your responsibility to remove it. > > > > The article is preventing us from doing business. We call on you pursuant to clause 27 of the terms and conditions to provide us with information that proves the article has been taken down. > > > > Moreover given you have failed, despite repeated requests, to have the defamatory article taken down we hereby put you on notice pursuant to clause 28 of the terms and conditions that we are not satisfied that you are conducting your affairs within the law and current legislation, > > > > Meanwhile I put you on notice that every day the article remains on the net we are suffering loss. > > > > Our Lawyers in Hong Kong are in the process of filing a law suit against you seeking damages for defamation of character. > > > > I should also point out that your continued failure to take down the offering article is taking your actions into a whole new realm. Given the delays in this matter were 100% caused as a result of the unusual nature of your proposed business activities what you have said about us and me is demonstrably 100% false. If you continue to perpetrate these lies (ie what is alleged in the article) what you are doing may well be considered in the eyes of the law to be criminal defamation and or internet blackmail both of which are a crime under both HK and International Law. > > > > The longer you leave it to take down the article the more you will have to pay us in damages and the more legal trouble you will find yourself in. > > > > Unless or until such time that the article is removed from the web we will not correspond with you any further. > > > > I strongly suggest you urgently seek independent legal advice. It seems you have no idea of how much trouble you are in. You could end up (a) losing everything you have and/or (b) being locked up in jail for a very long time. > > > > Meanwhile we reserve our rights generally. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > > > Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B > > Solicitor and Attorney at Law > > Head Consultant > > Tel: +852 30691620 > > Skype: kmentfly_alex > > www.offshoreincorporate.com > > > > > > > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are intended only for the named recipient. The material may be subject to legal professional privilege. If the reader is not the intended recipient, any use, reproduction, disclosure, distribution, dissemination, printing, or copying of the information contained in the e-mail or any file attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately and delete the document. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability is limited to re-supplying the material. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or other defect. Any structuring suggestions stated herein are generic examples only, should not be relied upon, are not and should not be construed as legal or financial advice and may be varied by local circumstances. You are advised to seek local legal and financial advice about the potential tax and or reporting implications in your home state regarding, and before you commit to establish, any International ie non-local Corporate, Trust or Foundation structure (or offshore bank account). > > > > > > From: [my email] > Sent: Thursday, 25 February 2016 4:19 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; 'A.C.T. - Offshore' <[email protected]> > Subject: URGENT II > > > > Dear Patrick, (Alexandra, Madhavi and Vanessa), > > It's been over two days since I have sent you my last email in an attempt to remedy the awkward situation we are in. However, you haven't even acknowledged it. > > I am a customer of Offshore Companies International Ltd. who you treat very badly. So far, everything that attracted me, on your website, to want to do business with you, was misleading. You have shown lack of common sense in a difficult for you situation, shockingly different manners and attitudes, not only poor organisation, poor professionalism, making promises (on your website) that you do not keep, but also demonstrating inability to control your rage. So far, as a business owner, you have done nothing to build trust back. (I am grateful to Alexandra though, for showing compassion and understanding, who was also trying to put things right...) > > Your delay, of 1 month and over 18 days, to deliver your work is blamed on me for having an unusual business idea. You state (on your website) to have a combined professional experience of 50+ years, which should not have been an obstacle to do your job property in a timely manner. You were already delayed over a month when you broke your silence about an issue, but not before I have requested a feedback from you twice with some six days in between. > > You have promised, to your potential customers (on your website), in front of the entire world: > > · to reply within 24 hours > > · to work overtime to deliver your work on time > > · and a refund of the money your customer had paid if they are not 100% satisfied with your service. > > I haven't experienced any of the above. On top of that you added insult to injuries by twisting my arm - commanding me to remove the fraud report I posted on Rippoff Report and threatened to sue me if I do not do it. You have attracted me, as a customer, with false promises: > > "A. Superior Professionalism:..." > > > > "... ethical Professionals..." > > > > '... there is almost a complete absence of quality providers in the market place." > > > > "...there are plenty of firms on the web who will sell you an Offshore Company or an IBC. But how many have the experience, the knowhow or the professionalism to provide reliable..." > > > > Everything on the following image: > > > > However, the treatment I got from you was different. > > Then, everything on the following image. Please, notice how you emphasise on "OUR QUALITY ASSUREDSERVICE SYSTEM" in italic. > > > > Then there was "your" superb philosophy. > > > > This promise was miles away from my experience. > > And, everything on this image too. Please, pay attention to your promise emphasised in italic, "... when you need it!" > > > > It didn't happen in my case. > > You have put at least twice (on your website) that you'll refund your customers' money in full if they are not 100% satisfied with your service: > > > > > It hasn't happened yet. Or everything was just a marketing catch. > > > > Please, refund my 'money in full' (as promised, on your website) for the undelivered service even after 1 month and over 18 days. I will expect a positive reply from you by Friday, 26th February 2016 and the refund in my bank account by next week, which will allow me to post the Update: GRATITUDE note I sent you last on the 22nd February 2016. > > I was kind enough to inform you of my intention to post a fraud report about you on Internet with an email appropriately titled: URGENT! on 20th February 2016, but you left it without a reply. I also offered to work with you for improving your image, but you've left that one without a reply too. > > With the current email I want to inform you, again, of my intention to update my report with our email rally from 22nd February 2016 and the threats you've used to get me to post a positive update. > > Please, show the Superior, ethical Professionalism, you've promised, and let's put a mutually beneficial end to our business dispute for I do not want anything outside of what you have already, initially offered me your customer - in front of the world, on your website, which is: the job done on time, to the 100% of your customer's satisfaction, or a full refund. > > > Kind regards, > > [my name] |
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Dear [my name],
I write in reference to your below referred email.
Nothing has changed since the last email I sent you.
I/we will not pick up a pen to assist you nor refund your money until the defamatory article is taken down from the internet. If you want us to serve you or if you want us to refund your money you need to arrange for the article to be removed forever from the internet. THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE.
I don’t buy into the suggestion that it can’t be removed. You arranged for it to be published. Hence it’s your responsibility to remove it.
The article is preventing us from doing business. We call on you pursuant to clause 27 of the terms and conditions to provide us with information that proves the article has been taken down.
Moreover given you have failed, despite repeated requests, to have the defamatory article taken down we hereby put you on notice pursuant to clause 28 of the terms and conditions that we are not satisfied that you are conducting your affairs within the law and current legislation,
Meanwhile I put you on notice that every day the article remains on the net we are suffering loss.
Our Lawyers in Hong Kong are in the process of filing a law suit against you seeking damages for defamation of character.
I should also point out that your continued failure to take down the offering article is taking your actions into a whole new realm. Given the delays in this matter were 100% caused as a result of the unusual nature of your proposed business activities what you have said about us and me is demonstrably 100% false. If you continue to perpetrate these lies (ie what is alleged in the article) what you are doing may well be considered in the eyes of the law to be criminal defamation and or internet blackmail both of which are a crime under both HK and International Law.
The longer you leave it to take down the article the more you will have to pay us in damages and the more legal trouble you will find yourself in.
Unless or until such time that the article is removed from the web we will not correspond with you any further.
I strongly suggest you urgently seek independent legal advice. It seems you have no idea of how much trouble you are in. You could end up (a) losing everything you have and/or (b) being locked up in jail for a very long time.
Meanwhile we reserve our rights generally.
Kind regards
Per: Patrick J. Flynn LL.B
Solicitor and Attorney at Law
Head Consultant
Tel: +852 30691620
Skype: kmentfly_alex
<http://www.offshoreincorporate.com/> www.offshoreincorporate.com
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“Terms & Conditions of Business
DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATION
“OCI means and includes:
(a) OFFSHORE COMPANIES INTERNATIONAL LTD Hong Kong Company number 1816467, its successors and assigns at law including but not limited to any corporation or other entity to whom the client base and or business of OCI may be assigned or sold.
(b) With respect to any person or entity referred to in (a) above: its directors, officers, shareholders, employees, agents, consultants, its subsidiary companies and any directors, shareholders, secretary or other nominees provided by it in connection with the Company and all and each of their respective successors and assigns;
“Client” means the person(s) or firm/Company who has requested “OCI” to provide services or has agreed or has previously paid for services.
“Company” means: (a) any one or more Companies or Trusts or Private Interest Foundations that the client has asked “OCI” to provide services; and
(b) any company, trust, private interest foundation or other structure established and/or administered at any time by or through OCI at the request of the Client;
“Politically Exposed Person” or “PEP” means and includes:
a senior foreign political figure
a person who has been entrusted with a prominent or important public function
a person who on account of his or her current or former political or public position has the potential to attract publicity beyond the borders of the country concerned
a person whose financial circumstances may be the subject of additional public interest
an individual who is closely related to a person identified above.
“PIF” means Private Interest Foundation
“Services” means any Company, Trust or PIF Formation; Management; Documentary; Administration; Councilor, Trust or Trustee services provided to the Client his Company or a Trust or a PIF formed on behalf of the Client.
“Trust” means any Trust or Settlement established or administered for or on behalf of the Client.
Words importing one gender include all other genders and words importing the singular include the plural and vice versa.
1) OCI reserves the right to decline to process any client’s applications or instructions without giving any reasons.
2) An application/order form does not constitute a contract unless accepted by OCI.
3) Unless OCI’s documentation and compliance procedures are met in full, we reserve the right to terminate our services without further notice, in which case no prepaid fees shall be refundable.
4) All fees are payable at the time of instruction and your account will be credited with the actual amount received by us ie nett of correspondent bank or credit card processor charges.
5) Fees are as initially stated in writing unless otherwise agreed by OCI in writing.
6) Annual fees, Government taxes and any disbursements will be billed two months prior to the due date. If the Client does not notify us in writing within thirty days that he no longer requires the services he shall be deemed to have accepted liability for payment of the full amount due. Late payment of annual fees or Government taxes will incur penalties and administration charges.
7) Any discounts offered to Clients apply only to OCI’s fees and not to Government taxes, duties or disbursements.
8) OCI reserves the right to increase fees without prior notice to the Client.
9) Any fees paid to OCI are non-refundable.
10) Any services provided by OCI are on an annual basis, unless agreed otherwise in writing.
11) A termination fee of $500 shall be payable by the Client to OCI if the client wishes to cancel an order or upon the services no longer being required, whether this be due to liquidation (voluntarily or compulsorily) of a Company, PIF or Trust, disposal of a Company, transfer of the management of a Company, PIF or Trust or otherwise. The termination fee will be charged in addition to any disbursements or other fees due and payable at the time of termination.
12) Where a Company or Trust or PIF has been formed for a Client and no other management or administration services are being provided by OCI a transfer fee of $450 will be payable.
13) In regard to outlays:
(a) Disbursements and out of pocket expenses will be charged in addition to OCI’s published fees.
(b) The Client’s account will be credited with the actual amount received ie net of bank or merchant provider costs which the client is required to meet
14) We reserve the right to charge additional fees for work not included in our published fee schedule or for work of an unusual or exacting nature. Due to enhanced compliance requirements any Seychelles Foundation order received from a US citizen or permanent resident shall attract an initial Due Diligence fee of 1,800, and from 2nd year an additional $750 p/a, which fee/s shall be supplemental to any quoted or published Seychelles Foundation price/s.
15) All fees are exclusive of Value Added Tax, Goods and Services Tax or other point of sales taxes and will be subject to such taxes at the prevailing rate as may be required by current legislation. In the case of Trusts and Foundations where we supply Trustee or Councillor services a Trust/Foundation admin fee, of 0.3% on Trust/Foundation Assets in excess of $US50,000, applies.
16) Save as for the gross negligence of OCI, its directors, employees, agents or representatives, the Client shall indemnify the said OCI, its directors, employees, agents or representatives at all times against:
(i.) any cause of action arising from the provision of the Company, administration and management services.
(ii.) any cause or action arising whatsoever which relate to the provision of any services and which relate to instructions carried out upon the specific instructions of the Client or otherwise.
(iii.) any matters or acts which have been performed or omitted to be performed by the Client or their agents on behalf of the Company.
17) Where a Registered Office Service is included as part of a package of services purchased by the Client no reference shall be made to the Registered Office address in any publication or by way of public announcement without the prior written consent of OCI. The facility is made available by OCI and/or via its agents on the basis of a license and is revocable and, upon the request of OCI, the Client shall immediately transfer the Registered Office to an address of their choice.
18) From time to time, it may be necessary for OCI to move its offices, Registered Offices or Resident Agents to another location. OCI undertakes to give the Client as much advanced notification as possible of any such move but will not accept responsibility for any costs incurred by the Client as a result thereof.
19) The Client hereby agrees to keep OCI informed of any change in their correspondence address and principal contact details.
20) All instructions or requests for action shall be transmitted to OCI in writing, however OCI may, at its discretion, agree to action any such instruction or request given other than in writing only on the express understanding that OCI shall not be liable in respect of any misunderstanding or error occasioned in processing such action or request acted upon in good faith.
21) All communications in relation to the administration, management or provision of any services for the Company including sending of annual renewal/Government tax notices shall be deemed to have been properly communicated to the Client if sent by ordinary post or by fax or by email to the current address or fax number provided by the Client. It shall not be necessary for OCI to provide proof of postage or receipt.
22) OCI accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of facsimile, email or other electronic instructions. The Client acknowledges that such methods of communication are not secure.
23) OCI shall not be liable for any failure to comply wholly or in part with any instructions and shall not be liable for non-receipt of instructions. The Client shall have no claim whatsoever against OCI in respect of anything done or omitted to be done or in respect of any exercise or discretion, gross negligence on the part of OCI notwithstanding.
24) OCI does not accept responsibility, legal or otherwise, for any loss, liability, or costs incurred by clients in connection with formation or acquisition of any Company or legal entity by them, or their Company or entity.
25) Use of a corporate name in any manner whatsoever by a Client prior to complete transfer or incorporation and receipt of Company documentation is regarded as unauthorised and may be construed as illegal. All advice given and publications produced by OCI are based on our interpretation of current legislation and is given in good faith and does not purport to be legal, accountancy, or tax advice, however no liability can be accepted by OCI for advice given, and Clients are advised to seek independent professional advice from their tax, accounting, financial, investment and legal advisors prior to placing an order with OCI.
26) Whilst OCI will endeavour to advise Clients with regard to the use of a name or similarity to any other Company name, OCI will not be held liable for any actions arising against the Client in respect of such similarity, passing off or infringement of any trademarks.
27) The Client agrees to provide OCI with whatever information it reasonably requires with regard to the Company’s Beneficial Owner(s) or the activities or dealings of the Company or other legal entity.
28) If OCI is not satisfied that the Company or Client is conducting their affairs within the law and current legislation, OCI reserves the right to terminate such administration, management or any other services being provided at the time of the said termination. Notice of the aforementioned termination shall be made in writing to the Client and no refund of fees shall be made.
29) OCI reserves the right to examine or open, or have its agents examine or open, any Client mail at its own discretion.
30) (Where a Nominee Founder has been ordered) The client agrees to accept all rights, powers and
obligations under the Charter and Regulations of the Foundation and the Foundations Act (Seychelles)
2009.
In the case of dispute, it is agreed that any redress should be sought through the courts of Hong Kong.”
Herewith, I now complete this Update to my Previous Fraud Report regarding
Offshore Companies International (OCI) of Kowloon, Hong Kong.
#6Author of original report
Mon, February 22, 2016
Following an intense communication with Offshore Companies International Ltd in the past few hours transpired that the delays with my order were caused by factors beyond the control of Offshore Companies International. I inform that my complaint has now been resolved.