Steve
Phila,#2Consumer Comment
Tue, March 29, 2005
Your postings sound familiar. Are you by some chance on the vending websites as well. This is Steve, The so called vending expert that you call me. Nobody is getting their money back. Its lost. My father tried dealings with different agencies and he was told theres nothing anyone could do about it.
Holly
Westmont,#3Author of original report
Wed, March 16, 2005
Just a note to Paul: We did not get a s****.. Plus, they provided training materials, posters, display units, cd-roms to give to clients, access to a website with handouts and other promotional materials, and a website portal in which people could access long distance accounts. The problem for us was the badly managed coach department and business contact departments. The cards for us did not become a problem until we read recently that they would not work anymore. We never thought we would make money quickly and I don't feel that it is naive to think that I have a legal right to my money based on contract law. I think that you really need to move on with your life and stop telling all of us how stupid we are. I've seen your comments on other people's reports. We all know what we've done wrong, we don't need you to tell us. Please stop commenting unless you have real legal advise or inside information on companies that have hurt people. No one needs your chastisement.
Paul
Anaheim,#4Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 16, 2005
Making a secure purchase means that both parties have to walk away with something of equal value. In your case, you didn't do that. You sent $10,000 and were happy to walk away with a s****.. But, no, they didn't. You trusted the frauds that the cards were good. You should know that you never trust strangers. If you didn't know that before you d**n sure do now. I can understand that you were naive and bought into this nonsense. People have to learn the hard way sometimes. Unfortunately, the lesson isn't quite over yet. You are still under the impression that you can get a refund. This was fraud right from the start. The crooks that stole your money either spent it or hid it. The only possible way to get a refund is to hunt the people who have it down and convince them to give it back. Anything else is a waste of time, pure and simple. Either gas up and get after the frauds, or put the whole thing behind you and move on. Anything else will simply cost you more good time and money, as well as drag the whole mess out even longer.