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Complaint Review: Oom Yung Doe - St. Paul Minnesota
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White Bear Ave St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Oom Yung Doe - OYD is a complete scam St Paul Minnesota
I agree with ever single letter in the other reports about this company.
Your rank is determined by how fast you pay them. The fee is a ridiculous 9,000 for a 2 year black belt program. When they started getting into trouble, they offered an "advanced track" program where you would pay the money off faster and thus get more attention. BS. All this means is that you get a paper belt rank based on how much money you've paid and how fast you've paid it.
My brother and I both quit and just flat out stopped paying the contracts we signed. They didn't even contact us once in an attempt to get the ramaining balance of the contract because they have much larger financial woes and litigation to deal with, and they know that they have absolutely no chance of getting money from the countless other people who have done the same thing.
For anyone who is enrolled at one of these bogus schools, go to one of their offsite seminars that they offer when they bring in their national instructors. Not only are the insctructors less than impressive, they were seriously stumbling around the floor and didn't even have a sense of balance about them.
If you don't believe that rank is determined by the amount of money you've paid, take a look at all of the so called 3rd and 4th degree blackbelts walking in who are overweight (some of them obese), and can barely even throw a kick above the height of their own knee without reaching for their inhalers.
They claimed that one of the individuals in the school I was attending entered and won first place in the Pal Gae form. When I checked into it, I found out that no such tournament ever even took place.
This company will offer you nothing more than a garbage pail full of malarchy.
Adamp1911
St. Paul, Minnesota
U.S.A.
Your rank is determined by how fast you pay them. The fee is a ridiculous 9,000 for a 2 year black belt program. When they started getting into trouble, they offered an "advanced track" program where you would pay the money off faster and thus get more attention. BS. All this means is that you get a paper belt rank based on how much money you've paid and how fast you've paid it.
My brother and I both quit and just flat out stopped paying the contracts we signed. They didn't even contact us once in an attempt to get the ramaining balance of the contract because they have much larger financial woes and litigation to deal with, and they know that they have absolutely no chance of getting money from the countless other people who have done the same thing.
For anyone who is enrolled at one of these bogus schools, go to one of their offsite seminars that they offer when they bring in their national instructors. Not only are the insctructors less than impressive, they were seriously stumbling around the floor and didn't even have a sense of balance about them.
If you don't believe that rank is determined by the amount of money you've paid, take a look at all of the so called 3rd and 4th degree blackbelts walking in who are overweight (some of them obese), and can barely even throw a kick above the height of their own knee without reaching for their inhalers.
They claimed that one of the individuals in the school I was attending entered and won first place in the Pal Gae form. When I checked into it, I found out that no such tournament ever even took place.
This company will offer you nothing more than a garbage pail full of malarchy.
Adamp1911
St. Paul, Minnesota
U.S.A.
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Bluescreen23
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
These reports are false
#2UPDATE Employee
Tue, August 26, 2008
Hello my name is Eugene Grinberg, and i am a current student of the School of Oom Yung Doe, Pittsburgh. I have been training for about five years now and i am here to let everyone know that Oom Yung Doe is no longer a cult. The days of Grandmaster Iron Kim have long gone. I was not aware of the actions of Iron Kim untill a few months ago, i never even considered Oom Yung Doe to be a scam, so i never had to look anything up. I started training at the school when i was 13 years old, i am 18 now. The benefits that i have recieved from my five years of training you can not put a price tag on. I am stronger, more aware, and more focused at everything i do. I have never been in a better physical shape in my life, and most importantly i have learned the tools i need to successfully defend myself in almost any situation. My intructers have never been anything but kind, and understanding. They know my limits, and they push me far enough so i can surpass them and grow. I actually have an assistant National instructer who manages the school and i often recieve one on one lessons from him. I learn international level movements from him, he teaches me forms, and involves me in things that most adult students learn, and i have never paid a penny over $80 a month for training in my five years! Never! I recieve three one hour lessons a week, every week, for a mere $80. Money has never been an issue. Of cource i have been talked to about the international program that costs close to $2500 a year, but the benefits that this program offers you are simply incredible. We have a 75 year old instructer in our school, his name is Instructer Dan. When instucter dan first enrolled in the school of Oom Yung Doe he had severe problems with arthritis, his back, he could barely walk. Now he can do backflips, dodge rolls, and is more flexible then he ever has been in his entire life. The benefits of this more expensive program are insermountable. I have never been choked, or strangled, or pressured into paying any more money or doing anything that i have not wanted to do. I do not deny the alligations against Grand Master Iron Kim, but the actions of him and a few other people should not reflect an entire martial arts style that is not practiced by thousands of people in the United States. The instructers at my school are fair, wise, and understanding. Oom Yung Doe is not a scam, it is a martial arts form, and with it you grow mentally and physically.
